Its Like Nashville, With a Tan
12/6/07 - Signed OF Jose Guillen to a three-year contract; Selected LHP Ray Liotta from the White Sox in the Rule 5 Draft.
12/4/07 -Released RHP Colby Lewis.
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So, after everything, thats what we're left with for now: Ray Liotta and the culmination of a deal that had seemingly been in the making for months, if not years. The Winter Meetings made life briefly better than it had been, but still failed to live up to expectations. So in other words, they were like everything else.
To comment on Guillen almost seems passe at this point, as we've now been debating his merits with some intensity for a month, and there's nothing much to say at this point. I think overall, perhaps because of his personality, perhaps because of his world-wide travels, he's a generally underrated hitter, at least at some ill-defined level of the public mind. Since his age 27 breakout with the Reds, he's posted OPS+s of 142, 121, 116, 75 and 116. Basically, he's an evil Reggie Sanders, circa 2003, that is to say, before Reggie Sanders went from "damn, this guy's numbers are actually impressive even though I have no memory of ever seeing him play" to "Reggie Sanders will give you solid production in the outfield". Maybe all he needs is a chance to settle down, to bathe in the healing waters of the state of Missouri and build up some familiarity with the chattering classes. By the time Sanders was done in St. Louis he was almost a borderline HOF candidate, or so it seemed, although the Royals don't tend to produce rampant over-glorification the way the Redbird Nationities do.

As for the terms of the deal, its a perfect Jose Guillen contract; only vaguely interesting. The money is high at a superficial level, but when you adjust for the baseball world as its now constituted, its actually reasonable. And three years isn't the end of the world. Yea, it'd be better if it was shorter, but would you rather he have gotten five? Sure, we're buying a portion of his decline, but thats what all the cool kids do now, and his is probably preferable to Emil Brown's.
As with every move the Royals make, the only real matter of concern is this: will this deal prevent other, better deals from getting made? And really, we have no way of knowing that. Positionally, the answer seems no -- although I would have been fine with giving Huber/Costa/Someone Else a shot for a season, then signing a COF in next year's superior class -- which brings us back to the eternal question around these parts regarding ownership and money. My cynical side would say that we've merely gone from being misers to be being hyper, over-aggressive consumers in an incredibly circumscribed way that tries to scream "I'm alive" but instead only mutters "I'm a sad person." The Royals are a sixty year old retiree who hoarded everything she made for a lifetime who is now at Vegas, gambling $100s and calling back home every hour to talk about it.
Now, if the Royals are players next year, and if the Royals continue to invest in player development, draftee bonuses and all the rest, then we all sit back and say, "no big deal". Problem is, we're all so beaten down and half-expect a Dutton story in the Star next August headlined "Disappointed Glass May Put Hold on Spending".
So in sum, the Guillen signing is nice, but doesn't exactly change anything. Will the Meche Era end in glory? That remains to be seen.
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Good write up
Well said...and we can trade him
Right
Mostly a salary dump
Top prospects are held pretty tightly nowadays. But certainly not all prospects.
by Scott McKinney on Dec 7, 2007 12:38 PM EST up reply actions
Prospect Trades
It happens. Not much of a point to thss as it will not happen with Guillen though.
Did anybody see that Chris Shelton went to the Rangers as a player to be named later? Is that somebody we should have been looking at? At least if we signed him and never let him play, he would not ever hit 4 homeruns against us in one series...
i thougt he was worth a shot
by FireBell on Dec 7, 2007 4:54 PM EST up reply actions
Shealy will outhit Brown
by Scott McKinney on Dec 7, 2007 7:12 PM EST up reply actions
Seconded
I'm so glad that Torii is not a Royal, so I can still hold out hope for beacons of light reaching me on the east coast from the K.
As of Dec. 2006
by Scott McKinney on Dec 7, 2007 12:50 PM EST up reply actions
The few pieces I've read
Coincidence? or Fate?
http://www.cinematical.com/2007/07/19/ray-liotta-is-jessica-biels-dad-in-powder-blue/
does this mean
Question about Rule 5
I'm confused. Can somebody explain?
minor league portion
I thought that too
Not all that odd
On that issue, I haven't seen if anyone commented on losing Gabe DeHoyos in the AAA portion?. In 2006, he closed a lot for Wichita and it seemed he was at least a good prospect for a regular spot in Omaha. I guess his 2007 was pretty unremarkable.
by CentralChamps2009 on Dec 7, 2007 11:35 PM EST up reply actions
actually
Does the Guillen deal prevent other deals?
Agreed
Oh....
by RoyalsFanInMarinerTown on Dec 7, 2007 4:29 PM EST up reply actions
Does Guillen Help or Prevent Future Deals?
- The players actual and perceived value (by other GMs) relative to his contract.
- How much of your payroll a player takes up.
However...
Berroa's $5.25M will come off the books
by Scott McKinney on Dec 8, 2007 11:23 AM EST up reply actions
White Sox are going after him
Rowand Is On The
by philofthenorth on Dec 7, 2007 1:54 PM EST up reply actions
Paulie Phillips DFAed
Miguel Olivo
by Scott McKinney on Dec 7, 2007 4:30 PM EST up reply actions
Will he hit better than...
by RoyalsFanInMarinerTown on Dec 7, 2007 4:31 PM EST up reply actions
Ha!
Alex Gordon was also given jersey #4
I was actually hoping
Just kidding.
by RoyalsFanInMarinerTown on Dec 7, 2007 4:42 PM EST up reply actions
another year of TPJ
by FireBell on Dec 7, 2007 4:58 PM EST up reply actions
Ha!
by RoyalsFanInMarinerTown on Dec 7, 2007 4:30 PM EST up reply actions
Fukudome news
In case there was any question, Ken Rosenthal reports that Kosuke Fukudome will announce that he's leaving Japan for an MLB team.
Rosenthal says it's down to the Cubs, Padres, and what I like to call a Mystery Team. The Rangers, Giants, and White Sox are candidates. And although Rosenthal doesn't mention them, the Royals could be in the mix. Ken Davidoff reported on Wednesday that Fukudome had narrowed his choices to the Cubs and Royals (though it's known that the Padres made a substantial offer).
And then from today's BP chat with Sheehan:
Travis (San Diego): Fukudome - Pads, Cubs, or Other?
Joe Sheehan: Other. I think this one is going to come out of the blue.
Blue? Get it? Royal blue! Ok, I'm guessing not.
I'd rather risk it....
At this rate, our payroll next year will be -$10MM from 2007. Unacceptable.
We need more offense.
by Royals Nation on Dec 7, 2007 6:24 PM EST up reply actions
Risk and payroll
Also, I don't think we should spend just to get the payroll number up to last year's. What we don't spend can be invested elsewhere, and it leaves lots of room to sign FA's next year when there will be a better, deeper FA class.
Also, I think you can expect the Royals to sign a SP. If not Kuroda or Silva, then a one-year stopgap like Lieber, Jennings, Clement or Colon.
by Scott McKinney on Dec 7, 2007 6:29 PM EST up reply actions
My bad
by Scott McKinney on Dec 7, 2007 6:50 PM EST up reply actions
SLG
by Scott McKinney on Dec 7, 2007 6:59 PM EST up reply actions
I thought I should agree with you sometime
not really
Look at Guillen from a different perspective
If Guillen hit .280, 20 HRs, and leads the team in RBIs (hopefully at least in the 80s range (PLEASE not in the 60s)), I think he might be worth every dollar in development of the young'ins.
just hard to say...
I do think there's something to be said from watching a great hitter's approach and prep, but it just depends on the guy. I really know nothing about Guillen at that level, but we'll see...
Just having a consistent lineup may help.
by grudz69 on Dec 8, 2007 12:11 AM EST reply actions
If No More
DDJ CF
Gritz 2B
Gordon 3B
Guillen LF
Butler DH
Teahen RF
Buck C
Shealy/Gload 1B
Pena SS
With this lineup and good pitching from the farm system kids we could be respectable next year.
i hope i;m alive to see teahen's inevitable
just give it time, we'll do it eventually
this
may have been the greatest thing I've ever read on this site, if not the entire internet. Awesome analogy.















