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Spreadsheet Baseball: Position Battles Royal (Part Two)

A thousand apologies for the lateness of this post. I wanted to do a thorough job with this, and I usually write a blog post the day before. However, yesterday was a bit hectic. Then, there was today. Today, I went to the wrong class, sat through a two-hour class for no good reason, suddenly really needed (apparently) to work on a group project, lost my keys, found my keys, got shot at by Russian mobsters who had malicious intentions, got caught in a fire...

In this second of a three-part series, I'll look at the Royals outfield and DH spot, and also possible NRI contributors. I've decided it's better to save the pitching staff for the final Position Battles piece on, which will appear March 6th (I know you can't wait).

Designated Hitter

For the Royals, one spot that definitely isn't a position battle is the DH spot. While it is plausible to think Mike Sweeney might play first every so often, Sweeney will occupy the DH spot for as long as he's healthy. His health is always a big question mark, thanks to recurring back problems that have always plagued the Royals' slugger. It's not a pleasure to say this, as Sweeney's a Royals fan favorite and apparently one of the nicest guys in the game, but Sweeney is clearly not the player he once was. You've probably seen this written before, so sorry about the cliché.

Of course, saying Sweeney "ain't what he used to be" doesn't mean that much. The majority of baseball players in the Major Leagues aren't what Mike Sweeney used to be. Long a bright light for the franchise, Sweeney hit a Pujolsian .340/.417/.563 in 2002. How many people know that he was that good? Outside of the Royal fan community, probably not that many. He's been a great hitter and a class act his entire career, and it will be a sad day for the franchise when he goes--even if his departure is the correct ending to the Sweeney saga.

There's going to be a lot written about what Sweeney's done for the franchise when he departs, so for now, let's just focus on the present. Sweeney is still a very good hitter when he plays, and he's the Royals starting DH. As with all teams who peg someone as the permanent DH, this does cut down on line-up flexibility a bit. It's debatable how much that matters.

Bottom Line: Mike Sweeney is the Designated Hitter if he's healthy. He's a wonderful man who (sigh) needs to be shipped out at the deadline.

Outfield

The Royals outfield is kind of odd mix. In a perfect world, David DeJesus would stay in centerfield, Emil Brown would give the Royals another mildly productive year, and Reggie Sanders would...not be on the team. Currently, the Royals outfield depth chart on MLB.com has DeJesus in center, flanked by Brown in left and Sanders in right. That's not very good but, assuming that Sweeney holds down the DH spot, it would be a hell of a lot better than the DeJesus-Joey Gathright-Sanders/Costa/K-Rob (that's Kerry Robinson) line-up that the Royals trotted out last year when Sweeney was hurt. DeJesus is good player, but that arrangement lowered his value (more production is expected of a corner outfielder than a centerfielder) and placed a blinding flash of unproductiveness at his position.

I'll say it very clearly: Joey Gathright has NO business being a starter at the Major League level. In fact, with his lack of power, you probably don't want him on your company softball team either.

His entire career, ever since he's been drafted, scouts have been blinded to Gathright's ridiculous speed. Even Baseball Prospectus, who usually derides toolsy non-productive players noted in one of their annuals that his speed might be enough for him to survive at the ML level with his powerless swing. A quick look at the numbers should convince you that that's simply not true.

  1. .238/.321/.292
  2. .276/.316/.340
  3. .250/.316/.250

Career: .251/.319/.305

Can you say "not worth it"? Gathright has one home run in the bigs (bonus points to whoever names the pitcher). The guy has virtually no power, and yet his speed pulled the wool over first the Tampa FO's eyes (though after the Rays performance during his tenure, it is widely theorized that Chuck LeMar actually slept with a sheep on his face) and then Kansas City's. Maybe J.P. Howell, the young pitcher they gave up to get Gathright, won't pan out, but he has a better chance of contributing usefully to an MLB team than a guy with a career .305 slugging percentage. Plus, for a guy whose calling card his always been his speed, he's not particularly good at stealing bases.

Career SB-CS ratio: 48-15

Don't bother getting out your calculator, that's a 76% success rate. That's really nothing special. It's more in the "break even" territory, in fact. Last year, Gathright was successful on only 22 of 31 attempts, which--rounding up--is 71%. That's low enough that it's hurting the team. The point? Joey's main weapon is his speed, but thus far he's got no way of utilizing it well.

Now, is there hope for Gathright to improve as a basestealer? Certainly. The dude is only twenty-five (26 on April 27th), and he could certainly improve his basestealing. Thing is, a good SB percentage would be cause for a job as a fifth outfielder/pinch-runner in late game situations, not a starter. The numbers show a guy whose slugging percentage will live and die by his batting average, probably more than any other guy (oh, wait, Jason Tyner got back to the Majors last year. Hmm...) in the league. Pitchers have the scouting reports on Gathright now, and while he's actually drawn a fair amount of walks in his career (a .321 OBP sucks, but not for a guy who hit .238), there is no reason for pitchers to nibble when facing him. Why? Well, if they catch too much of the plate with a hanging curve, the worst case scenario is...a line-drive single? A bloop double?

Okay, so I hate Joey Gathright's style of play. However, I have nothing against young Royals outfielders. Namely David DeJesus. Looking at DeJesus's last three years should exhibit a couple reasons to like him:

  1. .287/.360/.402
  2. .293/.359/.445
  3. .295/.364/.446, 23.2 VORP

...and here comes his Age 27 season. While it's an oversimplification (at sometimes just not true) to say that Age 27 is the break-out age, it does seem to be a popular career year time. Since most men fill out muscularly in their mid-twenties, generally a baseball player in his late twenties is in his physical prime. There are exceptions to this "rule," of course, but it seems like some people are getting on DeJesus a little bit for not progressing.

Maybe I'm just weird, but I look at a .364 OBP from a 26-year-old centerfielder, and I like that a lot. Face it: OBP is sexy, and David DeJesus has plenty of OBP. Therefore, David DeJesus is...

Um, okay. I may be going about this the wrong way.

My point is, DeJesus has three major league seasons under his belt, and has the patience thing down. There are plenty teams in baseball--judging from last year's CF performances and the contracts handed out this off-season--who'd love to have an 810 OPS from their centerfielder, no matter the age.

There have been knocks on DeJesus's defense in center, but there has also been praise; we're hardly to the point where everyone considers him a liability in the field, which is basically the point we have to get to for me to accept that someone is terrible afield. Fielding stats are just too unreliable (NOTE: I would be interested to hear what you guys think of David's defense) in general. In conclusion, I look at the OBP, the age, and the two digit number in the doubles column starting with "3," and I see break-out potential. I'm not talking Andrew Jones, and I suppose this whole thing is a bit speculative on my part, but I think DeJesus can get up near twenty home runs this year. If so, he'll go from a good solution in centerfield to a great one, and it'll be a big plus for the Royals.

The key here is for the Royals to play both DeJesus and Gathright in the correct roles: DeJesus starts in center, and Gathright collects splinters in his ass until the Royals need to pinch run for Sweeney in late innings. .

Moving on, we look to the corner spots. Emil Brown is certainly a nice story, and one of the moves you have to credit Allard Baird for. Neither scouts nor statheads liked Brown, but he was given a job in Royals outfield (he did DH some last year as well) in 2005--despite having last played in the majors in 2001--and since then has been...thoroughly non-crappy! That's more than Baird can say for the Royals (most of the time) during his tenure.

  1. .286/.349/.455
  2. .287/.358/.457, 20.6 VORP

That's not great, but it's handy to have around. He was actually still a below average corner outfielder in 2005, according to BP, because he was awful in the field, making twelve errors. His range didn't get better last year, but he only committed three errors.

So, WYSIWYG. Brown is a player who is not going to get better than this--he's 32--and right now he's about average for a corner outfielder, all things considered. He's still pretty cheap, too, and that makes him a possible deadline acquisition for a desperate contender. It'd be pretty nifty if the Royals could get something shiny in return for Brown. His limited future in Kansas City--he still has arbitration years--seems to rest a lot on whether Billy Butler can handle an outfield corner or if Mark Teahen gets moved to the outfield. For now, the Royals don't really have a good alternative to sending Brown out there to do his thing. It could be worse. He could be Reggie Sanders.

My apologies to Reggie, as he another Royal who is generally regarded as a swell guy to be around. I'm sure Sanders is fun to hang out with and everything, and he's had a nice career with some great years. Thing is, he officially falls into the "liability" category now. He's not even the best post-thirty-year-old outfielder on the team, and his patience is kind of eroding as his physical skills have declined. At this point, there's absolutely nothing Sanders can give the Royals that someone like Shane Costa can't.

Player A: .304/.405
Player B: .304/.425

Did you have to look it up? Sanders is B, and he's being paid actual money to Costa's pre-arbitration status. I'm not saying that Shane Costa is the future RF of the Royals, but they'd be better off running him out there as a stopgap until a better solution comes along than they would with Sanders. At least Costa is young, and could possibly improve. Hell, try out anybody else at the rightfield slot. Anybody is better than playing Sanders there; he's not even likely to be good enough to be flipped at the deadline. If he's DFAed, that'll be progress.

Bottom Line: Brown should play in left, DeJesus in center, and...um...Mark Teahen should move to rightfield. If Gordon stays in the minors, give Costa a shot. Resurrect the Royals career of Justin Huber...whoops! Management does'nt like him, play Gathright there if you want, just not Sanders. Realistically, that last one probably won't happen, but I think there's a good the other two positions will be Brown and DeJesus

NRIs
 I'll keep this brief, since the outfield section went longer than I thought. Looking at the NRIs that aren't prospects (Gordon, Butler), it doesn't look like there's a catcher spot open, Paul Phillips probably gets the call if LaRue or Buck goes down.
In terms of pitching NRIs, Dewon Brazleton should stay comfortably the hell away from the big league club's mound, even with a not-so-great pitching staff. Brandon Duckworth is too homerlicious for any park but PETCO. Wayne Franklin is still hanging around major league clubs? Repeat after me Royals fans "Wayne...um...please...please...go away." Jason Standridge is a former number one draft pick of the Devil Rays who is now pure roster fodder. Given the flukiness of relief pitching, you never know (but I'd bet against him contributing, of course). Hmm, someone named Billy Butler is invited to spring training. As a Red Sox fan, I refuse to address this.
In the infield, there's Fernando Cortez , a standard utility man with no bat. He could have been the next Joe McEwing if he'd been white. Alex Gonzalez who is not the one on the Reds is actually a fairly good bet as NRIs go, as he's a decent utility guy who has shown some decent power in the past. Assuming that his terrible 36 at-bat span with the Phillies last year was small sample size and not a sudden, complete failure to remember how to hit, he actually could grab a spot in KC. If this team had a manager that was not in love with Angel Berroa, I'd say that Gonzalez had an outside shot at the SS job. It isn't, so he doesn't. Graham Koonce has long wandered the unfriendly streets of AAA ball, posting good OBPs and reasonable power. Given the Royals' depth on the corners, he's probably going to camp with the wrong team. He's good depth, though, if they chose to hold onto him. Plus, he has a cool name.

Bottom Line: the NRIs that are the better bets to make the team (again, excepting the prospects), seem to be one of those Gonzalez boys and Phillips because catchers get hurt a lot. Duckworth could possibly stick for starting depth/long relief.

Stay tuned next week for the final installment in the Position Battles series. Hope you enjoyed today's article. Comments are, of course, welcome/encouraged.

UPDATE: I'm extremely distressed that Frye is falling behind in the poll.

 

 

 

 

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Koonce
I love that guy.

Gathright BETTER not get more than 150 PAs next season.

FIRE BELL

by FireBell on Feb 27, 2007 10:23 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I thought it was pretty clear at this point
the OF is Brown, DeJ, Teahen.  Where is Teahen in the poll? Since we will undoubtedly go with 12 pitchers there will only be room for 4 OF.  If Sanders isn't moved Gathright (and Costa) will be back in AAA.  Hopefully Sanders and Huber will be dumped by the end of spring, then maybe Costa can get his shot as 4th OF.

by chukar on Feb 28, 2007 12:32 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

i'd be up for trading brown as well
who may have some very modest value

by royalsreview on Feb 28, 2007 1:40 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Yes, let's see what the young guys can do
Would make this conversation more interesting with Gathright/Costa/Maier competing for that spot.  Too bad they're all lefties.

by chukar on Feb 28, 2007 9:52 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

this is hilarious
"oh, wait, Jason Tyner got back to the Majors last year. Hmm..."

by royalsreview on Feb 28, 2007 1:39 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

I missed this comment
Did anyone actually notice that happened? Apparently he got some playing time from the Twinkies.
"Your best? Losers always whine about 'giving it their best.' Winners go home and fuck the prom queen."

"Carla was the prom queen."

by NHZ on Feb 28, 2007 5:52 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

do we know for certain
that teahen wont play alot of third with gordon in omaha?

by LeoBloom on Feb 28, 2007 1:50 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

It would be a shock at this point
if Gordon went to Omaha.  Buddy already has him penciled in to the 6 hole.  I'm assuming most agree with his college experience and his AA numbers this is the right move.

by chukar on Feb 28, 2007 9:59 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

i sure hope so

by FlintHillsRoyal on Feb 28, 2007 11:11 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

once more on gathright
i think he can have value to a team, in the right circumstances... a really stacked roster could really maximize him... a smart manager would find a way to routinely get him 4-5 innings of defense with only 1 at bat... i'd be cool with that

by LeoBloom on Feb 28, 2007 1:52 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Before I read this post...
I question the ability of someone to statisticaly breakdown baseball when they go to the wrong class for two hours.  Unless of course, you were drunk..then it's all good.  Or if you saw Girl that Will Not Be Named and were trying to get a picture with her to post here.  Then again, you might be one of those brilliant people that can do nuclear physics, but can't match your socks.  It think it just might be a toss up.

I of course kid.  Just wanted to have a little fun with that before I got to the important stuff.

by Stook on Feb 28, 2007 2:37 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Ok..serious comments now..
On Dejesus, I think he has a lot of slightly above average skills.  He's not Beltran or A. Jones or B. Willims (in his prime).  He's a player that I think could touch 20 hrs, .300, 35 doubles, and a few triples at some point.  Not a great year, but a good solid year out of the lead-off spot. As far as his defense, I'd rate him above average.  I think he gets good jumps, has decent range, and a decent, accurate arm.  He also does the little things right and always seems to be moving to the ball even if it's not hit to him (shouldn't all CF's do that??? I'm talking to YOU, Beltran!!!).  I'm obviously a fan and am glad he's on our team.

I also a agree that Costa/Maier should be on the team over Sanders.  Sanders can't hit a good fastball anymore.  Pitchers were just reaching back and throwing it by him.  Another guy that might be nice for another team to come off the bench and hit for a pitcher.

Good post..it was enjoyable.

by Stook on Feb 28, 2007 2:59 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I'd love a Costa/Maier platoon
I think they could play good defense, add some speed on the bases and hit a little

by LeoBloom on Feb 28, 2007 2:28 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

now that is pretty funny
yea, maybe he saw She Who Will Not Be Named

by FlintHillsRoyal on Feb 28, 2007 11:12 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

If girls up here (Maine) dressed like her...
...this time of year, they'd freeze to death.

Though, it has gotten warmer recently. ;)

"Your best? Losers always whine about 'giving it their best.' Winners go home and fuck the prom queen."

"Carla was the prom queen."

by NHZ on Feb 28, 2007 11:45 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

and Florida wins, of course
However, all is not lost for me. Since I've always been a winner, I can just go home and...

(see signature)

"Your best? Losers always whine about 'giving it their best.' Winners go home and fuck the prom queen."

"Carla was the prom queen."

by NHZ on Feb 28, 2007 2:12 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

The Poll
I left Teahen out because at the time of the article it wasn't clear that Gordon had won the third base job. Simple as that. I'm aware that in doing so, it leaves out a distinct possibility, but the outfield article was this week's post.

And Stook, I didn't actually sit through the wrong class. It's just once I got to the right class I sat through an entirely pointless review session. Blah.

"Your best? Losers always whine about 'giving it their best.' Winners go home and fuck the prom queen."

"Carla was the prom queen."

by NHZ on Feb 28, 2007 7:44 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

I see
You had me worried there.  

by Stook on Feb 28, 2007 1:19 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

And actually checking the poll
I'm surprised you guys like Sanders that much. However, given the alternatives I guess it shouldn't surprise me.
"Your best? Losers always whine about 'giving it their best.' Winners go home and fuck the prom queen."

"Carla was the prom queen."

by NHZ on Feb 28, 2007 7:45 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

I think it's just the assumption if he's
still here making 4M and Teahen is at 3rd then Sanders starts by default.

by chukar on Feb 28, 2007 9:48 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

True
I guess I'm bad at making polls. How about we just pretend that "Phillip J. Frye" is actually "Teahen."
"Your best? Losers always whine about 'giving it their best.' Winners go home and fuck the prom queen."

"Carla was the prom queen."

by NHZ on Feb 28, 2007 10:36 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Sorry NHZ,
wasn't trying to be a jerk about the poll. I enjoyed your analysis.

by chukar on Feb 28, 2007 11:02 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

gotta play sanders so we
can trade him back to stl

by FlintHillsRoyal on Feb 28, 2007 11:12 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

No offense taken
I'm glad you liked the article. :)
"Your best? Losers always whine about 'giving it their best.' Winners go home and fuck the prom queen."

"Carla was the prom queen."

by NHZ on Feb 28, 2007 11:42 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

DeJesus defense
Sometimes things aren't as they may appear. My personal opinion is that DeJesus is an above average defensive CF (and when he plays LF, he is arguably the best defensive LF in the AL). I guess people question his defense because, intuitively, they think a CF must LOOK like a speedster, STEAL BASES like a speedster, etc. David is not a burner (but he probably has above avg speed), and he is not a good base stealer (but he IS a VERY GOOD baserunner), so they conclude he is not a good defensive CF.

HOGWASH! Subjectively, he has one of the better arms in the league among CFs (this was REALLY evident when he played LF and racked up many assists and many more near-assists), he gets a decent jump, and as somebody stated, he just seems to do all the things he should correctly.

No, he is not a Beltran, B Williams, or A Jones, but there aren't many of those guys around!

Bottom line - if you had nine position players who all ranked as DeJesus does compared to their fellow position players at their respective positions, I would argue we would have one of the best lineups in the entire AL.

by loyal2s dad on Feb 28, 2007 9:56 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Joey Renard Gathright
Joel Pineiro gave us Mr. Gathright's sole homerun. It might help to know that he hit the ball to left, on a night with recorded 20 mph winds to left. According to Hittrackeronline.com the adjusted length of the hit (due to wind, temp, alt) was only 347 feet.

You can go view the video here. Just scroll to September 16.

by Cleveland on Feb 28, 2007 9:58 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

cleveland
you are the man

pinero probably loses sleep at night thinking about this HR

by FlintHillsRoyal on Feb 28, 2007 11:13 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Sigh
The possible closer for the Red Sox gave up a home run to Joey Gathright. Ugh. That's really I can think to say. Ugh. Ugh. Ugh.
"Your best? Losers always whine about 'giving it their best.' Winners go home and fuck the prom queen."

"Carla was the prom queen."

by NHZ on Feb 28, 2007 11:47 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

an opposite field...
homer at that
Buy the ticket, take the ride.

by PhattStairs on Feb 28, 2007 10:38 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Dejesus D
Dejesus is a solid, above-average defensive player whose strength is a good arm (particularly for CF where there have always been a lot of Damon-armed types in MLB) and whose weakness is a little less range than you'd like to see (thinking back to Royals CF's past), but still solidly average to a tick above. If he can play 140-150 games and if he develops the 15-18 HR/60 XBH pop that most of think he can display (BP/Pecota slots his median numbers as .290/.357/.454, i.e. lower than we seem to expect), he's a pretty sweet little secret for us in CF. Staying healthy seems, at this point, to be a matter of more than some concern, and the room that opens up for Joey Gathright is where it gets scary - though I'm not quite as horrified by Gathright as most everybody else seems to be.

by Sliver on Feb 28, 2007 1:15 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

This is a big year for DeJesus
is he just gonna stay "good" or can he flirt with more

its time

by royalsreview on Feb 28, 2007 1:31 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

DL
If DDej can stay healthy, the flirtation goes right past lunch date into hook-up.

by Sliver on Feb 28, 2007 2:05 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I heard today on WHB on Petro's interview
with Teahen, that Bell is toying with the idea of Teahen being able to play a little CF (presumably as a backup to DeJesus, with Gathright sent down to Omaha). Petro broached this subjcet to Teahen, and Mark, while saying he was flattered that Bell thought that highly of him, also said it was the first he had heard of that possibility.

REDSOX CLOSER:

Aren't the Sox toying with the idea of making Devern Hansack the closer?

by loyal2s dad on Feb 28, 2007 1:31 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Teahen in CF
Yow! Teahen in CF? The only question I have is who's the bigger doofus, Bell or Petro?

OK, Petro, but still!

by Sliver on Feb 28, 2007 2:12 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Actually I find that sort of intriguing
as a longer run possibility.  He has pretty good speed and athleticism.  Can't wait to see how he looks in the OF.

So who has more speed, DeJ or Teahen?

by chukar on Feb 28, 2007 2:19 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

wow
creative thinking from the Royals?
it would be a nice way to get another bat into the lineup and give DeJ some off days

by LeoBloom on Feb 28, 2007 2:29 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

One man's intrigue is another man's Lonnie Smith
C'mon you guys...Teahen hasn't even converted to RF yet and now we're using him to spell DeJesus? Huh? Let him learn one positon a little to the right on the defensive spectrum before we go entrusting the wade open spaces to a converted thirdbaseman. I mean, it's nearly spring, a young man's fancy turns fanciful, but 'cmon already.

by Sliver on Feb 28, 2007 2:50 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

amen
i dont think it would really "work" but i'm glad to see their at least thinking about it out loud

lets see Teahen have a second good season and recover from his surgery first however

FIRE BELL

by FireBell on Feb 28, 2007 4:07 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

That's why I said longer run
Of course we see how he looks in RF for a long stretch, give him time to adjust. Just saying given his athleticism there's no reason to say it's a foolish prospect.

Our outfield is going to get crowded so having flexibility with positions will be valuable as we consider trade options.

So who's faster? I'm guessing Teahen just based on their baserunning, but hard to say I think. Would be a great Kaegal question.

by chukar on Feb 28, 2007 4:37 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Upside
would be a grady sizemore type CF.  Cool idea!
lordbyronk

by lordbyronk on Feb 28, 2007 4:52 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Exactly
Except minus the Grady's ladies.

by chukar on Feb 28, 2007 4:55 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Teahen in CF
Would be a stretch, I think. Let's see how he does as a corner outfielder first.

And Hansack is certainly in the running, yes, but he's definitely not the favorite. Personally, I think that whatever vet they name closer (Timlim, Donnelly, Pineiro) will give up the job to Delcarmen (or some other youngish guy)around June.

"Your best? Losers always whine about 'giving it their best.' Winners go home and fuck the prom queen."

"Carla was the prom queen."

by NHZ on Feb 28, 2007 3:14 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

OF Situation
DeJesus will have a big year.  He's a major sleeper and really not all that dissimilar to Johnny Damon (minus the SB's).  Teahen/Brown on the Corners.  Hopefully Brown's flipped at the deadline and the OF becomes Teahen/Butler for the next couple years.  I would like to see Sanders traded or cut.  Have Costa or Huber for the fourth OF.  Gathright badly needs time in the minors.  NRI's have a few outside shots, but I doubt any make the team.  Good article NHZ.  
lordbyronk

by lordbyronk on Feb 28, 2007 4:06 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Problem is neither Gathright or Costa
benefit from more AAA time. Both have proven they can hit AAA pitching, but are unproven in MLB. Which is why we should try to move both Brownie and Sanders.

I think Gathright has an outside chance to be useful, but would really like to open it up for Maier/Costa.  Again, too bad they're both lefty.

by chukar on Feb 28, 2007 4:42 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

More Teahen in CF commentary
Heh - I didn't suggest it, and neither did Petro, as I understand it. BB answered in response to a question as to who was the backup CF - at least this is what Petro is saying...

Somebody has to be the backup CF, and if Gathright is sent to Omaha because he has options (as many suspect he will be), and if Sanders is moved before the start of the year (as may suspect he will be), then that leaves only Brown, Teahen, Gload, DeJesus, and (perhaps) German as the available OFs.

SOMEBODY has to play CF if DDJ is given a day off; nobody on the above list has probably ever played it at all, so why not Teahen?

Just saying...

by loyal2s dad on Feb 28, 2007 4:52 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Back-Up CF
I suppose this is where you could make an argument to keep Gathright around as an extra OF. I don't think he's ever going to a worthwhile regular, but you could do worse for your fifth outfielder.
"Your best? Losers always whine about 'giving it their best.' Winners go home and fuck the prom queen."

"Carla was the prom queen."

by NHZ on Feb 28, 2007 5:15 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

hmm
Gload could play CF on a temporary basis.

by doublestix on Feb 28, 2007 5:35 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Gload v Gathright
Thats like ginger or maryanne for Bell... its so tempting either way!!

by royalsreview on Feb 28, 2007 9:03 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Joey RENARD Gathright
If Joey weren't so fast, he would be jumping over cars for quarters in between his jobs at Hy-Vee and Gates Barbecue.

Speed kills...particularly when you routinely get caught stealing.

By the way, I am trying to order Royals tickets through the pre-sale.  Sadly, my Royals.com password was not mailed to me.  Anyone have a password I can use?

by u l washington's toothpick on Feb 28, 2007 9:18 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

wasnt it
ROYALS 07
FIRE BELL

by FireBell on Feb 28, 2007 9:50 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

BELL'S NICKNAMES FOR 2007 STARTERS...
Catcher: Bucky
1st Base: Shealsy
2nd Base: Grudzy
Shortstop: Berry (heck of a ballplayer)
3rd Base: Gordy
Leftfield: Browny
Centerfield: D.J.
Rightfield: Teabag
DH: Sween-Dog
Starting P: Mechey

by u l washington's toothpick on Feb 28, 2007 11:51 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

D.J. would be pretty funny
Seeing as those aren't DeJesus's initials...but who ever heard of nicknaming a baseball player "Double D"?
"Your best? Losers always whine about 'giving it their best.' Winners go home and fuck the prom queen."

"Carla was the prom queen."

by NHZ on Feb 28, 2007 11:55 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

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