Game 65 Open Thread- Cardinals (27-33) at Royals (24-40)
In Larkin's poem "To the Sea" he describes the traditional summer vacation to the beach as, "half an annual pleasure, half a rite", a phrase that brings to mind our own summer pleasures tortures, in this case the annual Battle of Missouri. There's much to be said about whether or not Cardinals fans actually "care" about the Royals series or not -- there'll be more on this in a later post -- but its rather plain that it means a little bit more for us. It doesn't help that the Cardinals have been so much the stronger partner for the last decade, inviting all sorts of snide and un-snide comments from the media and citizenry. Still, this is baseball after all, and the results of any single game are about as close to random as you're going to get a nation of believers to admit. Nevertheless, if the Cardinals dominate then we're witness to a display of prowess, wisdom, tradition (or whatever you like), while if the Royals play well, well, just bad play from the Cards.

Something is Waiting for You to Arrive: Royals versus the Cardinals:
2006: 2-4
2005: 1-2
2004: 0-3
2003: 3-3
2002: 1-5
2001: 3-0
2000: 1-2
1999: 2-1
1998: 2-1
1997: 1-2
The Royals were weirdly effective against the Cardinals until 2001, holding an early 9-6 lead after the 2001 sweep. Since then, its been a different story, with the Cards winning 17 of the last 24 contests.
If there was ever a year in which the Royals might not even be considered the underdog however, its this season, with the Cardinals sitting at 27-33, in the National League, and featuring an offense that until recently was pathetically impotent. According to BP's Adjusted Standings the Cards have been playing like a 23 to 24 win team (again, in the weaker league), while the Royals have been about the same, maybe a tick higher.
However, a peak at the rosters points to a more profound difference between these teams, even if they've been equally bad. The Cardinals are an old, once great, team that may or may not have anything left (think Jim Edmonds) while the Royals are a young (but not that young) team that may or may not be getting any better (think David DeJesus). If you took Pujols out of the equation, I'm not sure 9 out of 10 GMs wouldn't prefer to have KC's roster. Then again, if you took Master of Disguise out of the equation, Dana Carvey's had a pretty good film career.
Tonight's game provides what might be a distinct Royal-advantage, with the Cards sending Brad Thompson (4-1, 4.56 ERA) to the mound against our beloved Banny. Thompson attended a school named Dixie State (probably studied renaissance art, its huge there, that, and theatre) and has somehow thrown 165 innings of 3.60 ball in the Majors. Most of that work however was as a reliver, and tonight's matchup will be only his eight big league start. Basically, he's a 25 year-old incarnation of generic roster space who doesn't appear to be really good at anything. Essentially, he's not awful and stands upright.
The same might have been said of Brian Bannister (2-3, 3.33 ERA) two weeks ago, but after two strong starts (lowering his ERA from 4.54 to 3.33 in the process) that saw him shut down the Devil Rays and the Indians in hostile environs. Problematically, Bannister is apparently chanelling early-career Jimmy Gobble, as he's managed only 22 strikeouts in 48.2 innings this season. Thats awful low, but against 12 walks not wholly flammable.
I await tonight's game, and Bell's lineup card, with the sincerest tinges of anticipation.
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"sincerest tinges of anticipation"
by grudz69 on Jun 12, 2007 5:24 PM EDT reply actions
lineup is... up
DeJesus - CF
Grudzielanek - 2B
Teahen - RF
Sweeney - DH
Gordon - 1B
German - 3B
LaRue - C
Pena - SS
Gathright - LF
Bannister - P
For the Cardinals:
Eckstein - SS
Spiezio - DH
Pujols - 1B
Edmonds - CF
Rolen - 3B
Encarnacion - RF
Duncan - LF
Bennett - C
Kennedy - 2B
Thompson - P
courtesy of the Royals blog
What is Lala hitting these days -.200 ave.
by grudz69 on Jun 12, 2007 5:44 PM EDT reply actions
We swept the Cards in 01?
I'll get on Buddy in a minute, but why the hell would you DH Spiezio and play Duncan in the field? Chris Duncan makes Emil Brown look like Willie Mays.
Okay back to Buddy, can we stop with the Alex Gordon at 1B thing? Let's see what Shealy can do. He's at a "sink-or-swim" point in his career, we need to find out if he's really a AAAA hitter, or the real answer to 1B. Playing Gordon at 1B instead of Shealy is ridiculous.
I can understand not playing Shealy
german at 1st makes too much sense
since the goal is getting rid of him, this is probably good
that being said, he isn't an actual 1b bat, but then again, when did the royals ever have that?
Duncan
by howserfan on Jun 12, 2007 8:24 PM EDT up reply actions
i just got back from the salvation army
i can't believe i drove 4 hours
Hey all,
Anyhow, posting to let you all know that Spreadsheet Baseball is back to Tuesdays and should be up sometime after the game concludes. Today I'm highlighting the Royals awful corner production, in case there's anyone on the planet who hasn't noticed it.
Go Blue!
scott spiezio is hitting 2nd
only larussa
by FireBell on Jun 12, 2007 8:12 PM EDT reply actions
solid
obligatory...
by FireBell on Jun 12, 2007 8:27 PM EDT reply actions
AND YES!
by howserfan on Jun 12, 2007 8:28 PM EDT reply actions
Way to go T... and Grudz...
Go Sweendog...
by grudz69 on Jun 12, 2007 8:29 PM EDT reply actions
Here comes our power....
and, Gordo is already down 1
by grudz69 on Jun 12, 2007 8:32 PM EDT reply actions
been there
by FireBell on Jun 12, 2007 8:34 PM EDT up reply actions
If you can't hit the ball let it hit you...
Bases loaded for German.... come on Germ...clear the bases...
by grudz69 on Jun 12, 2007 8:33 PM EDT reply actions
Way to go Germs....
Okay Banns here is your lead....
by grudz69 on Jun 12, 2007 8:34 PM EDT reply actions
Way to go Germs....
Okay Banns here is your lead....
by grudz69 on Jun 12, 2007 8:35 PM EDT reply actions
textbook
Botched DP by Rolen. Horrific misplay of the triple by Teahen. Another botched DP by Rolen.
Sweeney able to run on the 'arm' of Duncan. Failure to cut off the play at the plate, allowing LaRue to get to third which should have resulted in a sixth run.
None of that shows up as 'errors' but a team playing good defense is out of that with no runs.
3Ks for Banny.
by howserfan on Jun 12, 2007 8:41 PM EDT reply actions
Is that
by howserfan on Jun 12, 2007 8:45 PM EDT reply actions
Yes, definitely
The smoking gun about our 'independent' reporter.
by howserfan on Jun 12, 2007 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions
i want nothing more
one major reason i want to win is this comment over at viva el birdos:
now, im glad he gave RR a shout out and this truly is a great blog, no doubt about that, but i cant see how he is in a position to call us a "terrible team". sure, we havent lived up to expectations and have the second worst record in mlb, but (hopefully as this series will show) we are a better team than the cardinals and for a cardinals blogger to say that really pisses me off. larry does a great job over there but comments like these made all of the time show off the lack of knowledge about the royals IMO...
back to the game..
Anybody giving
by howserfan on Jun 12, 2007 8:51 PM EDT reply actions
Way to go T.... a double....yes...
by grudz69 on Jun 12, 2007 8:54 PM EDT reply actions
GOOOOOORDONNN!
Way to go Gordo.... I am shocked...
by grudz69 on Jun 12, 2007 8:56 PM EDT reply actions
GERMAN!!
To recount
They have done it THREE TIMES since the start of yesterday's game, including a stretch of three in a row yesterday and the current active streak today.
Why, oh why, are we not in the NL?
by howserfan on Jun 12, 2007 9:00 PM EDT reply actions
Come on Lala...we will take a walk... yes
Go Jr....
by grudz69 on Jun 12, 2007 9:02 PM EDT reply actions
Verlander through 8
by howserfan on Jun 12, 2007 9:03 PM EDT reply actions
Wow...how bad does the NL Central look
by powderblue on Jun 12, 2007 9:09 PM EDT reply actions
who thinks Verlander can finish his no hitter off?
Holy crap
When did we get an offense? 24 runs in the last ten innings? What gives?
some other guy named hardy?
nope
oh yea, some dude named graffanino
Is there any GM
Remember that when you see the next fawning piece on the genius Omar Minaya---who inherited a team capable of supporting a $150 mil payroll and two of the best young prospects in baseball [Reyes and Wright].
by howserfan on Jun 12, 2007 9:13 PM EDT reply actions
Wow, slowest triple ever?
Congrats to Verlander
Howserfan is exactly right
verlander did it
Way to go T. 8-0 Blue guys.... yes...
by grudz69 on Jun 12, 2007 9:18 PM EDT reply actions
Crap.. the guy I am up against this week has
by grudz69 on Jun 12, 2007 9:18 PM EDT reply actions
No pic
by Scott McKinney on Jun 12, 2007 9:21 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah man
by howserfan on Jun 12, 2007 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions
AFLAC
My guesses:
Al Hrabosky
Gene Garber
Ricky Bottalico
Good catch T...
by grudz69 on Jun 12, 2007 9:22 PM EDT reply actions
If Teahen hits for the cycle,
Way to Gordo... I can see a .200 ave.
by grudz69 on Jun 12, 2007 9:25 PM EDT reply actions
Ray Miller
by howserfan on Jun 12, 2007 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions
He did go after it
Oh sure LaRoche homers now... I just dropped
by grudz69 on Jun 12, 2007 9:30 PM EDT reply actions
Hope
Remember the preseason knee surgery.
by howserfan on Jun 12, 2007 9:34 PM EDT reply actions
Probably just precautionary
Grudz hurt himself?
At least he went 1-3 with two runs....
by grudz69 on Jun 12, 2007 9:36 PM EDT reply actions
What they're saying
-This team is freaking garbage.
-We got Jeff Weaver back?
-The fuckin' Royals cameraman feilds better thaan us!
-LaRussa's a bum
so, who will they bring up to replace Grudz
by grudz69 on Jun 12, 2007 9:40 PM EDT reply actions
Way to go.... Jr, Germ, and Shea....
by grudz69 on Jun 12, 2007 9:41 PM EDT reply actions
if grudz goes down...
...kidding
by bluebandwagon on Jun 12, 2007 9:42 PM EDT reply actions
I was just about ready to burn your
by grudz69 on Jun 12, 2007 9:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Is Thompson still out there?
the shealy express...
by bluebandwagon on Jun 12, 2007 9:46 PM EDT reply actions
Good reversal
by howserfan on Jun 12, 2007 9:47 PM EDT reply actions
FOUL BALL
How do they change that call?
I'll bet
With all the crews ML now, they see all the players. Rolen strikes me as one of those guys who's been around a while and they know he won't mess with them.
He probably saw it and told the 3B umpire.
He'd have a better look at it than LaRussa from the visitors dugout.
by howserfan on Jun 12, 2007 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions
nice work thompson...
by bluebandwagon on Jun 12, 2007 9:50 PM EDT reply actions
Royals Cycles
Fred Patek July 9, 1971 Twins
John Mayberry Aug. 5, 1977 White Sox
George Brett May 28, 1979 Orioles
Frank White Sept. 26, 1979 Angels
Frank White Aug. 3, 1982 Tigers
George Brett July 25, 1990 Blue Jays
whats happened since teahen's K?
did we score?
ok, nvm it just popped back up.
yeah banns...
by bluebandwagon on Jun 12, 2007 10:05 PM EDT reply actions
have an old fashion and it will get more
by grudz69 on Jun 12, 2007 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Thus dude's gameday very forlorn
by chukar on Jun 12, 2007 10:12 PM EDT reply actions
I like boring wins
Is anybody up in the bullpen?????
by grudz69 on Jun 12, 2007 10:22 PM EDT reply actions
thats for the red thing on your chin...
by bluebandwagon on Jun 12, 2007 10:23 PM EDT reply actions
Again..Phew!!!!!!
yes...
by grudz69 on Jun 12, 2007 10:24 PM EDT reply actions
they are doing a city of cleveland sports...
try living in kansas city you whiny douche bags.
by bluebandwagon on Jun 12, 2007 10:25 PM EDT reply actions
We have
And during that time, The Drive, The Fumble, Mesa blows the save in the bottom of the ninth in Game 7 in 1997, the horrible boating accident in the '80s that killed the Indians in spring training, plus Jordan over Ehlo AND their football leaves...for Baltimore.
That's agony.
by howserfan on Jun 12, 2007 10:30 PM EDT up reply actions
There is something to be said
Heck, they even have Michigan and Ohio State success to cheer for. We don't even have much in the way of collegiate success, save for Danny and the Miracles.
by RoyalsRetro on Jun 12, 2007 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Riske warming up
Bannister - 7 shutout inning
Burgos - out for two weeks
Advantage - Moore
I just picked up Riske.... yesterday.
Way to go Gator....
by grudz69 on Jun 12, 2007 10:29 PM EDT reply actions
Didn't
by howserfan on Jun 12, 2007 10:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Shea does look like he swinging
by grudz69 on Jun 12, 2007 10:33 PM EDT reply actions
Go Riske.... bring it on home...
by grudz69 on Jun 12, 2007 10:36 PM EDT reply actions
It sounds great to hear someone
Kudos to Moore he brought both of these guys in to the team.
by grudz69 on Jun 12, 2007 10:38 PM EDT reply actions
Odie pitches tommorrow... I hold off on the
Go T....
by grudz69 on Jun 12, 2007 10:44 PM EDT reply actions
Damn. There goes the cycle.
Oh well, hell of a game for T...
by grudz69 on Jun 12, 2007 10:45 PM EDT reply actions
look at the stands
by howserfan on Jun 12, 2007 10:46 PM EDT reply actions
Sweendog... beat out a run....
by grudz69 on Jun 12, 2007 10:47 PM EDT reply actions
Spurs/Cavs
by howserfan on Jun 12, 2007 10:50 PM EDT reply actions
Come on Riske finish it quickly....
Take that TLR....
by grudz69 on Jun 12, 2007 10:50 PM EDT reply actions
Crap... cheap homer... from who????
But, who am I to second guess Tony!!!!
by grudz69 on Jun 12, 2007 10:53 PM EDT reply actions
i saw juan gone...
that was well before his royals career began, however..
by bluebandwagon on Jun 12, 2007 10:54 PM EDT reply actions
if you want a good way to fall asleep from boredom
by bluebandwagon on Jun 12, 2007 10:55 PM EDT reply actions
Sorry, trying to do two things at once
by grudz69 on Jun 12, 2007 10:55 PM EDT reply actions
yikes
Pics?!??!?
by RoyalsRetro on Jun 12, 2007 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Very nice
by RoyalsRetro on Jun 12, 2007 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions
good...
by bluebandwagon on Jun 12, 2007 10:58 PM EDT reply actions
Edmonds
I'm not worried about the seven run home run.
oy vey
by bluebandwagon on Jun 12, 2007 11:01 PM EDT reply actions
What is your pleasure?
by grudz69 on Jun 12, 2007 11:04 PM EDT up reply actions
And that's...
by howserfan on Jun 12, 2007 11:03 PM EDT reply actions
Yes, we win...we win... we win.....
by grudz69 on Jun 12, 2007 11:05 PM EDT reply actions
well done boys...
by bluebandwagon on Jun 12, 2007 11:05 PM EDT reply actions
4 games behind the ChiSox and closing fast!
by chukar on Jun 13, 2007 2:08 AM EDT reply actions














