Game 71 Open Thread- Royals (28-42) at Cardinals (30-36)
Didn't we just see this movie?
Just last week, Odalis Perez and RufusAdam Wainwright squared off at Kauffman Stadium, with Wainwright and Co. coasting to a 7-3 victory before 25,555 rabid fans. Although there will doubtlessly be a larger crowd tonight in St. Louis -- they're the smartest, coolest, bestest fans on the place of the planet after all -- is there any reason to expect much difference? Probably there is actually, given the variable nature of this game, but you can't help but feel that the Cardinals still hold an egde.
Somewhat hilariously, Matt Becker's STATS/AP game preview contends that the Cardinals are "surging" now, thanks to a good weekend in Oakland. While I've remained fairly mellow on the ultimate meaning of our own offensive explosion the past 10 days or so -- 17 runs twice, hitting over .300 as a team, etc. -- if the Cardinals are "surging" (30 wins! huzzaa!) then what does that make the Royals? I don't know enough scientific nomenclature to adequately answer my own cliched rhetorical question.
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As you breathlessly await tonight's epoch altering contest, take time to reflect upon the immortal glory of Rey Sanchez, the 99th Best Royal Ever. Pregame discussion question: Does Jalepena have a shot to pass Sanchez?
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wheres the squid?
by DyeFan187 on
Jun 18, 2007 5:48 PM EDT
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jalepena wont be playing SS by midseason 2008
so no
by DyeFan187 on
Jun 18, 2007 5:47 PM EDT
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ohh dyefan
by FireBell on
Jun 18, 2007 7:48 PM EDT
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this years i-70 just seems off
something is bland and boring this time
by FireBell on
Jun 18, 2007 5:49 PM EDT
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Tough to watch Perez
by grimsleyfan on
Jun 18, 2007 5:50 PM EDT
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If the Cardinals are "surging",
by loyal2s dad on
Jun 18, 2007 6:21 PM EDT
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Pena
Not sure he can hit an empty .290 like Sanchez, but heh - he's hitting an empty .280 right now, and factoring in the defense, that's a VAST improvement over what we had.
Not the end of the world if he becomes a placeholder for even two or three years, if need be. I think we have bigger problems to solve first, namely first base, left field, DH after Sweeney, and 2-3 starting pitchers.
by loyal2s dad on
Jun 18, 2007 6:32 PM EDT
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Shouldn't the game be starting soon?
by andrewmiller on
Jun 18, 2007 6:57 PM EDT
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Pena
Carlos Guillen 0.915
Derek Jeter 0.892
Brendan Harris 0.851
Jhonny Peralta 0.845
Orlando Cabrera 0.837
Miguel Tejada 0.777
Michael Young 0.742
Yuniesky Betan 0.733
Tony Pena Jr. 0.672
Bobby Crosby 0.656
Jason Bartlett 0.630
Juan Uribe 0.615
Julio Lugo 0.580
That's pretty encouraging actually. Listening DM talk about him, I think he's likely to be here the next 2 years, and if he can give us this, agree with L2RD that we have much more pressing needs.
by chukar on
Jun 18, 2007 7:08 PM EDT
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pretty big dropoff after cabrera
bad year from tejada... guess he's finally stopped caring
by royalsreview on
Jun 18, 2007 7:14 PM EDT
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Of course
Even if he's this good a defender (and I suppose that's pretty likely), he's still a placeholder at best. Maybe there are other holes, but if there's a chance to fill this one... "League average at best" doesn't inspire a thrill of a find by GMDM, who probably is a bit in love with Atlanta's organizational guys. (We eagerly await the Gordon-for-Francoeur trade)
Anyone else notice that J. P. Howell has a really impressive strikeout rate?
by devil_fingers on
Jun 18, 2007 7:40 PM EDT
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lineup...
E. German 2b 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .266
M. Teahen rf 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .285
E. Brown lf 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .238
A. Gordon 3b 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .215
J. Buck c 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .272
R. Shealy 1b 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .211
T. Pena Jr. ss 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .280
O. Perez p 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000
by royalsreview on
Jun 18, 2007 7:18 PM EDT
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The strain
by kjfinkes on
Jun 18, 2007 7:21 PM EDT
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The CWS looking over their shoulders
by chukar on
Jun 18, 2007 7:39 PM EDT
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almost game time
by FireBell on
Jun 18, 2007 8:03 PM EDT
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wow
this actually isnt a bad lineup at all, even with odie pitching we could be able to sneak out a W.
and about pena, i dont see why he couldnt improve upon his ops. he is still very young given the fact he started playing baseball at such an old age (relative of course) and he is still developing strength. give him another offseason to add some muscle and he will have more gap power and much more XBH's. that would then raise his ops and while he likely will never hit 290, a 270 average with an ops of 700 is a reasonable goal i think.
by rockchalk on
Jun 18, 2007 8:12 PM EDT
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Brown coming up large in June
by chukar on
Jun 18, 2007 8:19 PM EDT
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1-0 royals
by FireBell on
Jun 18, 2007 8:25 PM EDT
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great
by RoyalsFanInMarinerTown on
Jun 18, 2007 8:30 PM EDT
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If we werent playing the cards id want Perez
by chukar on
Jun 18, 2007 8:31 PM EDT
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Strategery
by philofthenorth on
Jun 18, 2007 8:33 PM EDT
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of course card fans celebrate the run scoring DP
by chukar on
Jun 18, 2007 8:35 PM EDT
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wow, thought the game was over, IBB was huge
by chukar on
Jun 18, 2007 8:35 PM EDT
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whats the run expectancy with
by wildthang on
Jun 18, 2007 8:37 PM EDT
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that was my guess without looking it up, ballgame
by chukar on
Jun 18, 2007 8:37 PM EDT
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John Buck rules
by Pauli on
Jun 18, 2007 8:38 PM EDT
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JOHN!!!!
by RoyalsFanInMarinerTown on
Jun 18, 2007 8:38 PM EDT
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holy crap John feaking Buck!
by chukar on
Jun 18, 2007 8:38 PM EDT
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Who feels like 17 runs again?
by wildthang on
Jun 18, 2007 8:39 PM EDT
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Se we need about 9 runs tonight
by chukar on
Jun 18, 2007 8:40 PM EDT
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solid
by wildthang on
Jun 18, 2007 8:41 PM EDT
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Did Shealy
by philofthenorth on
Jun 18, 2007 8:42 PM EDT
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DDJ!
odie helping himself out, advancing the runner.
thats what winning teams do.
by rockchalk on
Jun 18, 2007 8:44 PM EDT
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this offense is insane, good to have DDJ back
by chukar on
Jun 18, 2007 8:44 PM EDT
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Cards Fans Know Better
by philofthenorth on
Jun 18, 2007 8:45 PM EDT
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they are soooo savvy
by FireBell on
Jun 18, 2007 8:46 PM EDT
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wow
by wildthang on
Jun 18, 2007 8:45 PM EDT
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3-1
and david just stole a base
by FireBell on
Jun 18, 2007 8:46 PM EDT
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teahen can blow this game open...
by royalsreview on
Jun 18, 2007 8:47 PM EDT
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I gotta ask if anyone think having Joey
by chukar on
Jun 18, 2007 8:47 PM EDT
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wow 7 pitch inning, maybe the little lead helps
by chukar on
Jun 18, 2007 8:55 PM EDT
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told you
now lets score some more runs to make sure...
by rockchalk on
Jun 18, 2007 8:56 PM EDT
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you're responsible for odie now, good luck
by chukar on
Jun 18, 2007 8:57 PM EDT
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he pitched on friday
by rockchalk on
Jun 18, 2007 9:01 PM EDT
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Lets start the John Buck 40 Homer parade
by wildthang on
Jun 18, 2007 9:01 PM EDT
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Emil To Omaha
by philofthenorth on
Jun 18, 2007 9:02 PM EDT
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wow... brown steals
by royalsreview on
Jun 18, 2007 9:04 PM EDT
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Hi
I have a two run lead on the road and I just had a seven pitch inning. I think I'll walk the pitcher to lead off the next one.
Yeah...that's the ticket.
At least what I lack in stuff I make up for in veteran guile.
by howserfan on
Jun 18, 2007 9:10 PM EDT
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According to TiVo
What a play by the kid. Do I hear an encore Web Gem?
by howserfan on
Jun 18, 2007 9:11 PM EDT
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Gordo officially our best defender
by chukar on
Jun 18, 2007 9:11 PM EDT
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More Strategery
by philofthenorth on
Jun 18, 2007 9:14 PM EDT
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that is what buddy and odie
this is what happens when you combine two of the greatest minds in sports, TLR has nothing on us...
by rockchalk on
Jun 18, 2007 9:17 PM EDT
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gordo better than tpj?
our defense on the left side of the infield has improved incredibly, and while german isnt as good as grudz our infield defense is still better than last year. MUCH better...
by rockchalk on
Jun 18, 2007 9:15 PM EDT
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compared with others at the position,
by chukar on
Jun 18, 2007 9:18 PM EDT
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Odie Ks Pujols
In the words of a great Cardinals broadcaster, "I do not believe what I just saw!"
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Jun 18, 2007 9:17 PM EDT
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marlins just scored 2 on the Count,
by chukar on
Jun 18, 2007 9:20 PM EDT
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What a weird play
Didn't the World Series teach them the importance of pitchers' defense?
by howserfan on
Jun 18, 2007 9:21 PM EDT
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lets see if TLR
by rockchalk on
Jun 18, 2007 9:21 PM EDT
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never mind
anyways, come on germs. if we get these 2 runs i will be able to breathe a little bit easier.
by rockchalk on
Jun 18, 2007 9:22 PM EDT
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"In play, run(s)"
even if it involves germ getting out, come on T we need one more.
by rockchalk on
Jun 18, 2007 9:23 PM EDT
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the dreaded contact play
by howserfan on
Jun 18, 2007 9:24 PM EDT
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Another
And the boo-birds are out in the Redbirds house.
by howserfan on
Jun 18, 2007 9:26 PM EDT
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he just plays the game
and couldnt start for Mo State
by royalsreview on
Jun 18, 2007 9:26 PM EDT
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5-1
take that cards
by royalsreview on
Jun 18, 2007 9:26 PM EDT
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THIS JUST IN!
by RoyalsRetro on
Jun 18, 2007 9:26 PM EDT
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German
by philofthenorth on
Jun 18, 2007 9:26 PM EDT
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"Major League"
by RoyalsRetro on
Jun 18, 2007 9:31 PM EDT
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did odie really just score from second?
does taguchi really have that weak of an arm?
by rockchalk on
Jun 18, 2007 9:26 PM EDT
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He looked
You must RESPECT MY AUTHORI-TAY!!!
by howserfan on
Jun 18, 2007 9:31 PM EDT
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hey at least lime hustled
just a clarification, his defense still sucks in the summer months. even when he actually starts to hit, vlademil still cant fill worth crap.
by rockchalk on
Jun 18, 2007 9:34 PM EDT
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odie giving a solid 4 feels like a luxury
by chukar on
Jun 18, 2007 9:37 PM EDT
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Not a knockdown
Lollipop of a curveball right off the helmet. No issues.
by howserfan on
Jun 18, 2007 9:39 PM EDT
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STL broadcast going with Aflac of
by chukar on
Jun 18, 2007 9:45 PM EDT
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The same # of times
by royaldaddy on
Jun 18, 2007 9:48 PM EDT
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Also the number of wins
by RoyalsRetro on
Jun 18, 2007 9:51 PM EDT
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Odalis not sucking tonight
by royaldaddy on
Jun 18, 2007 9:46 PM EDT
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We're on borrowed time
Do I hear Cap'n? Costa?
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Jun 18, 2007 9:50 PM EDT
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Let Odie's implosion begin...
by u l washington's toothpick on
Jun 18, 2007 9:51 PM EDT
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Thank you
BB with another masterstroke!
More boos in Busch!
I love this!
by howserfan on
Jun 18, 2007 9:52 PM EDT
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Great protection for Pujols
by RoyalsRetro on
Jun 18, 2007 9:53 PM EDT
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OD
by RoyalsRetro on
Jun 18, 2007 9:52 PM EDT
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Hah
by BlueEyesAustin on
Jun 18, 2007 9:52 PM EDT
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Nice sacrifice by Pena
Small ball. Live it. Learn it. Love it.
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Jun 18, 2007 9:54 PM EDT
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Perez
Well, like the man doubling down on eight said, "I came here to gamble!"
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Jun 18, 2007 9:56 PM EDT
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LOL
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Jun 18, 2007 9:57 PM EDT
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Ryan is getting some street cred tonight
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Nice
by RoyalsRetro on
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Peralta and Gobble
by howserfan on
Jun 18, 2007 10:02 PM EDT
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Berroa
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No one
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81
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Jun 18, 2007 10:03 PM EDT
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Non sequiter: Buck
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And the dealer busts!
I swear, BB must've rescued a gypsy's cat out of a tree this morning. The dude is golden tonight.
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Jun 18, 2007 10:03 PM EDT
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Heh
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Jun 18, 2007 10:06 PM EDT
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Well
And considering how little we gave for him....
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i told you chukar
that is about as good as we can hope for from odie, hopefully our bullpen wont blow it.
im so proud of myself :hugs oneself:
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Jun 18, 2007 10:05 PM EDT
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off the hook
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Jun 18, 2007 10:06 PM EDT
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Splitt with the "You go now, dog"
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Jun 18, 2007 10:05 PM EDT
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wish I could hear that, i've got STL on tv
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Reminds me of
"You're the man now, dog!
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i think buddy just likes managing in the nl
of course, you and me could manage and look pretty darn smart compared to TLR and the cards...
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Jun 18, 2007 10:07 PM EDT
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Take it back!
by devil_fingers on
Jun 18, 2007 10:10 PM EDT
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splitt and ryan are doing radio or tv?
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tv
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Jun 18, 2007 10:10 PM EDT
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In case you were wondering
He has never gone more than seven innings in a Royals uniform. The last time he pitched more than seven innings was August 11, 2005 with the Dodgers against Pittsburgh when he gave up one run in eight innings.
The last time he went nine was September 19, 2002.
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Jun 18, 2007 10:08 PM EDT
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Rolen sucks
by u l washington's toothpick on
Jun 18, 2007 10:09 PM EDT
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Wow
by howserfan on
Jun 18, 2007 10:09 PM EDT
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back to back hits
by rockchalk on
Jun 18, 2007 10:10 PM EDT
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or a hit and an error
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Jun 18, 2007 10:11 PM EDT
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back in action
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Jun 18, 2007 10:12 PM EDT
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riske in the 7th
i actually feel pretty confident in those 3 PLUS grienke, gobble and peralta. and ducky when healthy. that is everyone in our bullpen folks. wow how far our bullpen has come in just a short ~7 months. and dont forget that bale, if he ever isnt injured, could be a factor too in the future once we trade off other vets (read: peralta (maybe he is still semi-young), riske and dotel)...
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Jun 18, 2007 10:14 PM EDT
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exactly, actually some reason to feel good
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Jun 18, 2007 10:15 PM EDT
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Its weird having a pretty solid bullpen
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Jun 18, 2007 10:18 PM EDT
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The boys are lights out tonight
by u l washington's toothpick on
Jun 18, 2007 10:14 PM EDT
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Teahen
The switch appears to have taken all around.
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this is when odie leaves the game
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what is that crap
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My hope
Dare to dream.
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Jun 18, 2007 10:16 PM EDT
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wouldnt that be ichiro?
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Jun 18, 2007 10:18 PM EDT
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that harmless popper, in 05 DDJ crashes
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riske slamming the door
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pujols will bat with no one on, nice by Riske
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Soria up
What will it take?
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Jun 18, 2007 10:23 PM EDT
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Ugh
Good Lord, think of the Children.
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Jun 18, 2007 10:26 PM EDT
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Yippee! Runs!
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Jun 18, 2007 10:28 PM EDT
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"I believe the children are our future.
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Jun 18, 2007 10:31 PM EDT
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Rolen is embarrased once again
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When Juan Encarnacion is your cleanup hitter
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Na-ha-ha-ha-steeeee
69 mph with a brutal two foot break.
He couldn't have hit that with an oar.
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Man, I love Soria
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seems so easy, or just normal, doesnt it
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Jun 18, 2007 10:38 PM EDT
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I am missing Nasty Royals Cheerleader
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Soria
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Great command
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Cards have announced
No word on who will.
With Elarton going, we'll probably need at least six to win. Very possibly more.
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Jun 18, 2007 10:40 PM EDT
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god weve hit into tough luck last 3 innings
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Jun 18, 2007 10:41 PM EDT
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The Royals ought to "Private Pyle"
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Jun 18, 2007 10:43 PM EDT
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TLR burning
If we win this, we're really set up well for the rest of the series.
Well, except for that Elarton thing.
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seems managers often extra desperate to
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Dotel 6
What do you think?
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Clever
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never understood
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Jun 18, 2007 10:50 PM EDT
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Wouldn't a double
The thing that does suck is the DP is no longer an option.
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not necessarily
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Jun 18, 2007 10:54 PM EDT
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Fair point
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"history repeats itself"
Seems kind of self serving.
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Chris Duncan
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duncan scares me
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NIIIIIICE!
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ballgame baby!!!!!
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just blow it by him
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And that's...
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Chicago 10 Florida 5 (7th)
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man
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Bullpen 3 IP 0R 3H 3K, solid, and odie delivers
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Great game...
Hopefully they will get it right tommorrow night.
Odie did about as well as you could ask. He went 6 and didn't pitch us out of the game. The bullpen was hot and so were our bats. Teahen and Brown looked good and why isn't Buck in the lineup everyday. If not at catcher let him DH. Let Costa catch at least he could make himself useful. Joke there son...joke...
One down and two wins to go.... The victory scotch was a little late but still tastes good.
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Jun 19, 2007 12:02 AM EDT
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that should have been
one too many Boule's
Do you know how big Youkilis' head looks like on a big screen? Pumpkin size... with a beard.
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