Game 71 Open Thread- Royals (28-42) at Cardinals (30-36)
Didn't we just see this movie?
Just last week, Odalis Perez and RufusAdam Wainwright squared off at Kauffman Stadium, with Wainwright and Co. coasting to a 7-3 victory before 25,555 rabid fans. Although there will doubtlessly be a larger crowd tonight in St. Louis -- they're the smartest, coolest, bestest fans on the place of the planet after all -- is there any reason to expect much difference? Probably there is actually, given the variable nature of this game, but you can't help but feel that the Cardinals still hold an egde.
Somewhat hilariously, Matt Becker's STATS/AP game preview contends that the Cardinals are "surging" now, thanks to a good weekend in Oakland. While I've remained fairly mellow on the ultimate meaning of our own offensive explosion the past 10 days or so -- 17 runs twice, hitting over .300 as a team, etc. -- if the Cardinals are "surging" (30 wins! huzzaa!) then what does that make the Royals? I don't know enough scientific nomenclature to adequately answer my own cliched rhetorical question.
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As you breathlessly await tonight's epoch altering contest, take time to reflect upon the immortal glory of Rey Sanchez, the 99th Best Royal Ever. Pregame discussion question: Does Jalepena have a shot to pass Sanchez?
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this years i-70 just seems off
something is bland and boring this time
by FireBell on Jun 18, 2007 5:49 PM EDT reply actions
Tough to watch Perez
If the Cardinals are "surging",
by loyal2s dad on Jun 18, 2007 6:21 PM EDT reply actions
Pena
Not sure he can hit an empty .290 like Sanchez, but heh - he's hitting an empty .280 right now, and factoring in the defense, that's a VAST improvement over what we had.
Not the end of the world if he becomes a placeholder for even two or three years, if need be. I think we have bigger problems to solve first, namely first base, left field, DH after Sweeney, and 2-3 starting pitchers.
by loyal2s dad on Jun 18, 2007 6:32 PM EDT reply actions
Shouldn't the game be starting soon?
Pena
Carlos Guillen 0.915
Derek Jeter 0.892
Brendan Harris 0.851
Jhonny Peralta 0.845
Orlando Cabrera 0.837
Miguel Tejada 0.777
Michael Young 0.742
Yuniesky Betan 0.733
Tony Pena Jr. 0.672
Bobby Crosby 0.656
Jason Bartlett 0.630
Juan Uribe 0.615
Julio Lugo 0.580
That's pretty encouraging actually. Listening DM talk about him, I think he's likely to be here the next 2 years, and if he can give us this, agree with L2RD that we have much more pressing needs.
by chukar on Jun 18, 2007 7:08 PM EDT reply actions
pretty big dropoff after cabrera
bad year from tejada... guess he's finally stopped caring
Of course
Even if he's this good a defender (and I suppose that's pretty likely), he's still a placeholder at best. Maybe there are other holes, but if there's a chance to fill this one... "League average at best" doesn't inspire a thrill of a find by GMDM, who probably is a bit in love with Atlanta's organizational guys. (We eagerly await the Gordon-for-Francoeur trade)
Anyone else notice that J. P. Howell has a really impressive strikeout rate?
by Matt Klaassen on Jun 18, 2007 7:40 PM EDT up reply actions
lineup...
E. German 2b 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .266
M. Teahen rf 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .285
E. Brown lf 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .238
A. Gordon 3b 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .215
J. Buck c 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .272
R. Shealy 1b 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .211
T. Pena Jr. ss 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .280
O. Perez p 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000
almost game time
by FireBell on Jun 18, 2007 8:03 PM EDT reply actions
wow
this actually isnt a bad lineup at all, even with odie pitching we could be able to sneak out a W.
and about pena, i dont see why he couldnt improve upon his ops. he is still very young given the fact he started playing baseball at such an old age (relative of course) and he is still developing strength. give him another offseason to add some muscle and he will have more gap power and much more XBH's. that would then raise his ops and while he likely will never hit 290, a 270 average with an ops of 700 is a reasonable goal i think.
Brown coming up large in June
by chukar on Jun 18, 2007 8:19 PM EDT reply actions
1-0 royals
by FireBell on Jun 18, 2007 8:25 PM EDT reply actions
great
by RoyalsFanInMarinerTown on Jun 18, 2007 8:30 PM EDT reply actions
If we werent playing the cards id want Perez
by chukar on Jun 18, 2007 8:31 PM EDT reply actions
of course card fans celebrate the run scoring DP
by chukar on Jun 18, 2007 8:35 PM EDT reply actions
whats the run expectancy with
JOHN!!!!
by RoyalsFanInMarinerTown on Jun 18, 2007 8:38 PM EDT reply actions
holy crap John feaking Buck!
by chukar on Jun 18, 2007 8:38 PM EDT reply actions
Se we need about 9 runs tonight
by chukar on Jun 18, 2007 8:40 PM EDT reply actions
six
scoring shealy right now would certainly help...
Did Shealy
DDJ!
odie helping himself out, advancing the runner.
thats what winning teams do.
Cards Fans Know Better
they are soooo savvy
by FireBell on Jun 18, 2007 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions
wow
3-1
and david just stole a base
by FireBell on Jun 18, 2007 8:46 PM EDT reply actions
I gotta ask if anyone think having Joey
by chukar on Jun 18, 2007 8:47 PM EDT reply actions
told you
now lets score some more runs to make sure...
crap...
hopefully he keeps it up enough to get traded.
he pitched on friday
Emil To Omaha
Hi
I have a two run lead on the road and I just had a seven pitch inning. I think I'll walk the pitcher to lead off the next one.
Yeah...that's the ticket.
At least what I lack in stuff I make up for in veteran guile.
by howserfan on Jun 18, 2007 9:10 PM EDT reply actions
According to TiVo
What a play by the kid. Do I hear an encore Web Gem?
by howserfan on Jun 18, 2007 9:11 PM EDT reply actions
Gordo officially our best defender
by chukar on Jun 18, 2007 9:11 PM EDT reply actions
More Strategery
that is what buddy and odie
this is what happens when you combine two of the greatest minds in sports, TLR has nothing on us...
gordo better than tpj?
our defense on the left side of the infield has improved incredibly, and while german isnt as good as grudz our infield defense is still better than last year. MUCH better...
compared with others at the position,
by chukar on Jun 18, 2007 9:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Odie Ks Pujols
In the words of a great Cardinals broadcaster, "I do not believe what I just saw!"
by howserfan on Jun 18, 2007 9:17 PM EDT reply actions
What a weird play
Didn't the World Series teach them the importance of pitchers' defense?
by howserfan on Jun 18, 2007 9:21 PM EDT reply actions
lets see if TLR
never mind
anyways, come on germs. if we get these 2 runs i will be able to breathe a little bit easier.
"In play, run(s)"
even if it involves germ getting out, come on T we need one more.
the dreaded contact play
by howserfan on Jun 18, 2007 9:24 PM EDT reply actions
Another
And the boo-birds are out in the Redbirds house.
by howserfan on Jun 18, 2007 9:26 PM EDT reply actions
German
"Major League"
did odie really just score from second?
does taguchi really have that weak of an arm?
He looked
You must RESPECT MY AUTHORI-TAY!!!
by howserfan on Jun 18, 2007 9:31 PM EDT up reply actions
hey at least lime hustled
just a clarification, his defense still sucks in the summer months. even when he actually starts to hit, vlademil still cant fill worth crap.
odie giving a solid 4 feels like a luxury
by chukar on Jun 18, 2007 9:37 PM EDT reply actions
Not a knockdown
Lollipop of a curveball right off the helmet. No issues.
by howserfan on Jun 18, 2007 9:39 PM EDT reply actions
STL broadcast going with Aflac of
by chukar on Jun 18, 2007 9:45 PM EDT reply actions
The same # of times
Also the number of wins
We're on borrowed time
Do I hear Cap'n? Costa?
by howserfan on Jun 18, 2007 9:50 PM EDT reply actions
Let Odie's implosion begin...
by u l washington's toothpick on Jun 18, 2007 9:51 PM EDT reply actions
Thank you
BB with another masterstroke!
More boos in Busch!
I love this!
by howserfan on Jun 18, 2007 9:52 PM EDT reply actions
Great protection for Pujols
Hah
by BlueEyesAustin on Jun 18, 2007 9:52 PM EDT reply actions
Nice sacrifice by Pena
Small ball. Live it. Learn it. Love it.
Perez
Well, like the man doubling down on eight said, "I came here to gamble!"
by howserfan on Jun 18, 2007 9:56 PM EDT reply actions
Nice
Peralta and Gobble
by howserfan on Jun 18, 2007 10:02 PM EDT reply actions
Berroa
No one
by u l washington's toothpick on Jun 18, 2007 10:02 PM EDT reply actions
81
by philofthenorth on Jun 18, 2007 10:03 PM EDT reply actions
Non sequiter: Buck
And the dealer busts!
I swear, BB must've rescued a gypsy's cat out of a tree this morning. The dude is golden tonight.
by howserfan on Jun 18, 2007 10:03 PM EDT reply actions
Heh
by BlueEyesAustin on Jun 18, 2007 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Well
And considering how little we gave for him....
by BlueEyesAustin on Jun 18, 2007 10:04 PM EDT reply actions
i told you chukar
that is about as good as we can hope for from odie, hopefully our bullpen wont blow it.
im so proud of myself :hugs oneself:
off the hook
by chukar on Jun 18, 2007 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions
wish I could hear that, i've got STL on tv
by chukar on Jun 18, 2007 10:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Reminds me of
"You're the man now, dog!
by RoyalsRetro on Jun 18, 2007 10:10 PM EDT up reply actions
i think buddy just likes managing in the nl
of course, you and me could manage and look pretty darn smart compared to TLR and the cards...
Take it back!
by Matt Klaassen on Jun 18, 2007 10:10 PM EDT up reply actions
In case you were wondering
He has never gone more than seven innings in a Royals uniform. The last time he pitched more than seven innings was August 11, 2005 with the Dodgers against Pittsburgh when he gave up one run in eight innings.
The last time he went nine was September 19, 2002.
Rolen sucks
by u l washington's toothpick on Jun 18, 2007 10:09 PM EDT reply actions
Wow
by howserfan on Jun 18, 2007 10:09 PM EDT reply actions
back to back hits
or a hit and an error
riske in the 7th
i actually feel pretty confident in those 3 PLUS grienke, gobble and peralta. and ducky when healthy. that is everyone in our bullpen folks. wow how far our bullpen has come in just a short ~7 months. and dont forget that bale, if he ever isnt injured, could be a factor too in the future once we trade off other vets (read: peralta (maybe he is still semi-young), riske and dotel)...
exactly, actually some reason to feel good
by chukar on Jun 18, 2007 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Its weird having a pretty solid bullpen
by RoyalsRetro on Jun 18, 2007 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions
The boys are lights out tonight
by u l washington's toothpick on Jun 18, 2007 10:14 PM EDT reply actions
Teahen
The switch appears to have taken all around.
by howserfan on Jun 18, 2007 10:15 PM EDT reply actions
what is that crap
My hope
Dare to dream.
by howserfan on Jun 18, 2007 10:16 PM EDT reply actions
wouldnt that be ichiro?
that harmless popper, in 05 DDJ crashes
by chukar on Jun 18, 2007 10:20 PM EDT reply actions
riske slamming the door
Soria up
What will it take?
by howserfan on Jun 18, 2007 10:23 PM EDT reply actions
Ugh
Good Lord, think of the Children.
by BlueEyesAustin on Jun 18, 2007 10:26 PM EDT reply actions
Yippee! Runs!
by RoyalsRetro on Jun 18, 2007 10:28 PM EDT up reply actions
"I believe the children are our future.
Rolen is embarrased once again
by u l washington's toothpick on Jun 18, 2007 10:34 PM EDT reply actions
Na-ha-ha-ha-steeeee
69 mph with a brutal two foot break.
He couldn't have hit that with an oar.
by howserfan on Jun 18, 2007 10:35 PM EDT reply actions
Man, I love Soria
I am missing Nasty Royals Cheerleader
by u l washington's toothpick on Jun 18, 2007 10:37 PM EDT reply actions
Soria
by BlueEyesAustin on Jun 18, 2007 10:38 PM EDT reply actions
Great command
by RoyalsRetro on Jun 18, 2007 10:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Cards have announced
No word on who will.
With Elarton going, we'll probably need at least six to win. Very possibly more.
by howserfan on Jun 18, 2007 10:40 PM EDT reply actions
TLR burning
If we win this, we're really set up well for the rest of the series.
Well, except for that Elarton thing.
by howserfan on Jun 18, 2007 10:44 PM EDT reply actions
seems managers often extra desperate to
by chukar on Jun 18, 2007 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Clever
by howserfan on Jun 18, 2007 10:54 PM EDT up reply actions
never understood
Wouldn't a double
The thing that does suck is the DP is no longer an option.
not necessarily
Fair point
by RoyalsRetro on Jun 18, 2007 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions
"history repeats itself"
Seems kind of self serving.
NIIIIIICE!
And that's...
by howserfan on Jun 18, 2007 10:57 PM EDT reply actions
Bullpen 3 IP 0R 3H 3K, solid, and odie delivers
by chukar on Jun 18, 2007 11:05 PM EDT reply actions
Great game...
Hopefully they will get it right tommorrow night.
Odie did about as well as you could ask. He went 6 and didn't pitch us out of the game. The bullpen was hot and so were our bats. Teahen and Brown looked good and why isn't Buck in the lineup everyday. If not at catcher let him DH. Let Costa catch at least he could make himself useful. Joke there son...joke...
One down and two wins to go.... The victory scotch was a little late but still tastes good.
by grudz69 on Jun 19, 2007 12:02 AM EDT reply actions
that should have been
one too many Boule's
Do you know how big Youkilis' head looks like on a big screen? Pumpkin size... with a beard.
by grudz69 on Jun 19, 2007 12:19 AM EDT reply actions














