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The Royals have drafted Mike Moustakas with the 2nd overall pick.

Sickels on Moustakas here.
Another random profile of Mike, here. LA Times Profile, here.

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A flurry of activity awaits the Royals this afternoon, as they finish up a three-game series in Cleveland beginning at 11:05, followed by the televised first round of the Draft at 12:00 1:00.

Be here or be nowhere.

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In Cleveland its Odalis Perez (3-5, 5.74 ERA) against Fausto Carmona (6-1, 3.29 ERA). With the mercurial Perez against the conflicted scientist who made a deal with the Devil, it should be a matchup for the ages. One we'll cherish for all time. With a win, the Royals sneak out of Cleveland with a series victory.

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A Festival of Draft Links

-Bob Dutton reported yesterday that the Royals are avoiding Scott Boras, and will choose between Josh Vitters, Matt Moustakas, Jarrod Parker, and Devin Mesoraco.

-John Sickels ranks the top pitchers and hitters on the board.

-Jim Callis of Baseball America projects the Royals will take Vitters. (Hat Tip Royals Retro)

-Kevin Goldstein of Baseball Prospectus predicts the same.

-Rich Lederer and the Baseball Analysts discuss Josh Vitters here.

-Royal Expos Fan's prediction/preference Diary on the Draft.

-Jerry Crasnick chimes in with the obligatory story about late-round stars.

-Chris Constancio presents his study of High School Pitchers. Good read.

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Baseball America says Vitters
BA: Royals will take Vitters
Relive Royals History at royalsretro.blogspot.com

by RoyalsRetro on Jun 7, 2007 11:28 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Hey RR
were you wearing a brown jacket and black shirt? Saw a random Royals white guy behind first in the 9th last night.

by chukar on Jun 7, 2007 11:38 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

You looked very concerned
about the Sizemore walk, but I also saw a quiet confidence that Buddy was in complete command...  you were on for a good 10 seconds as they flashed to the fan shot behind Grady at first.

Great TV that 9th, you could see Buddy mouth to Dotel, "what do you wanna do". I love the drama of those manager non-pitching-change mound visits in the 9th, and the requisite show of confidence in the closer.

by chukar on Jun 7, 2007 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I was concerned, although supportive of the walk
were you watching the Royal-feed?

I may try to buy it

by royalsreview on Jun 7, 2007 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Damn RR, I'm so pissed
I had the Cleveland STO feed on tivo, but I deleted the file last night to make room for the draft today. Crap, would've gladly sent you a copy.

Cool with Tivo, I was able to freeze the shot and get a good look at your handsome mug and that Rawlings. It was comforting to see a Royals supporter in that sea of raging tribe fans at a high stress moment like that. Love how the electronic media shrinks the world!

by chukar on Jun 7, 2007 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yea, def me
I had a glove, as my date and I were both fearful of being killed by a foul ball

by royalsreview on Jun 7, 2007 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

All signs point to Vitters
I wish there was a more obvious good choice, but I think it is Vitters.  Drafting a HS pitcher always worries me.  And the kind of unprecedented huge major league contract Boras will be demanding makes it huge money for the riskiest kind of prospect there is.  That doesn't seem to make sense for any team with limited revenues.

by NYRoyal on Jun 7, 2007 12:02 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

The more I read the better I feel about it
man the Boras guys are plummeting, nice to kill the Cub fan hopes for Vitters

by chukar on Jun 7, 2007 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Cocaine era
Amazing that I interpreted that statement to mean something completely different.

I assumed it meant the entire Royals front office, management, and scouting were collectively snorting cocaine almost 24/7 since the early '90s.

Of course, I wasn't alive in the 1980's...well, technically I was, but I didn't participate in the horrendous pop culture (and drugs) of the era.  Not that this era's pop culture (and drugs, just kidding) are that much better.

OK, I'm rambling.

http://royalsnation.proboards62.com/

by Royals Nation on Jun 7, 2007 12:05 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I want Wieters
Chukar has convinced me. I've thought about it for 3 days. I want Wieters.

by royaldaddy on Jun 7, 2007 12:06 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Shit RD, see above, I'm down with
Vitters now due to signability, but I'd still go weiters if not for Boras

by chukar on Jun 7, 2007 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He may be worth an MLB contract though
I wouldn't mess with Porcello and an MLB contract, but that Wieters kid is a switch hitting catcher. He's a rare breed, a very valuable tool.

by royaldaddy on Jun 7, 2007 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

No doubt, but apparently the money is stupid
I was gonna be pissed if we were just being cheap, but if other orgs are passing due to cash I'm ok.

by chukar on Jun 7, 2007 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Should I remind you that Lala is a
switch hitting catcher.  Vitters all the way....

by grudz69 on Jun 7, 2007 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm with you
Wieters all the way. Vitters would be my second choice. Anything else and I think I would be disappointed. (I'm assuming Porcello is not an option at this point)
Relive Royals History at royalsretro.blogspot.com

by RoyalsRetro on Jun 7, 2007 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

When is our 2nd pick?
what is the Royals gameplan for the rest of the draft?
If you were a hotdog would you eat yourself? I know I would!

by greggagneHOF on Jun 7, 2007 12:15 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

This tape shows him against my high school
Liberty Blue Jays
http://www.minorleaguebaseball.com/milb/events/draft_report/y2007/index.jsp?mc=tepesch

I think its about time we started drafting hometown kids.

If you were a hotdog would you eat yourself? I know I would!

by greggagneHOF on Jun 7, 2007 12:24 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

A-Gord!
2007 Royals -- the song remains the same

by tfn on Jun 7, 2007 12:29 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Gordo
Seems to have a live bat; when he makes contact, the ball really jumps.
Being a fan is irrational, but what is the alternative?

by philofthenorth on Jun 7, 2007 12:36 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Odalis not seeming
too sharp today.

Royals also seem to be getting some good whacks off of Fausto.  However, Cleveland is a lot more capable of taking advantage.

If we're lucky, this one will be settled by the bullpens.

2007 Royals -- the song remains the same

by tfn on Jun 7, 2007 12:38 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Can someone tell me why the utility man
can't play first base? Why not let Gordon stick with 3rd. Did Glass refuse to buy the extra glove or something?

Also: what are the odds that Gordon does nothing but hit 1 double a game for the rest of the season?

by devil_fingers on Jun 7, 2007 12:42 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

1 double a game and
add a reasonable walk rate, I'd take it
2007 Royals -- the song remains the same

by tfn on Jun 7, 2007 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Gatt OBP machine
run wild, wild I tell you!

by chukar on Jun 7, 2007 12:44 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

what a bunt
probably accidental, but still

by royaldaddy on Jun 7, 2007 12:44 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

thoroughly enjoying
the Gathright era. Nice to have some excitement when someone gets on base.

by nkkc on Jun 7, 2007 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Odds on Gator swiping 2nd?
If you were a hotdog would you eat yourself? I know I would!

by greggagneHOF on Jun 7, 2007 12:46 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Best Royals First Round Picks Ever
Royals Retro: Royals First Round Picks, by Win Shares with the Royals
  1. Willie Wilson (1974) - 219
  2. Kevin Appier (1987) - 148
  3. Johnny Damon (1992) - 87
  4. Brian McRae (1985) - 56
  5. Brent Mayne (1989) - 45
  6. Clint Hurdle (1975) - 38
  7. Michael Tucker (1992) - 29
  8. Jaime Quirk (1972) - 27
  9. Mike MacDougal (1999) - 17
10.Dan Reichert (1997) - 15
11.Jimmy Gobble (1999) - 14
11.Zack Greinke (2002) - 14
13.Gary Thurman (1983) - 13
14.Buddy Biancalana (1978) - 10
15.Mike Jones (1977) - 9
16.Joe Vitiello (1991) - 8
17.Scott Bankhead (1984) - 6
18.Dee Brown (1996) - 5
18.Chris George (1998) - 5
20.Kyle Snyder (1999) - 4
20.Jim Pittsley (1992) - 4
22.Frank Wills (1980) - 3
23.Jeff Austin (1998) - 2
24.J.P. Howell (2004) - 0
24.Mitch Maier (2003) - 0
24.Jeff Granger (1993) - 0
24.John Morris (1982) - 0 (never played for the Royals)
24.Dave Leeper (1981) - 0
24.Atlee Hammaker (1979) - 0
24.Roy Branch (1971) - 0 (never played for the Royals)

Alex Gordon, the first round pick in 2005, and Billy Butler, the first round pick in 2005, have reached the big leagues, but I don't have Win Shares computer for 2007.

Royals first round picks who have never reached the big leagues - Luke Hochevar (2006), Matt Cambpell (2004), Chris Lubanski (2003), Colt Griffin (2001), Mike Stodolka (2000), Jay Gehrke (1999), Matt Burch (1998), Juan Lebron (1995), Matt Smith (1994), Sherard Clinkscales (1992), Jason Pruett (1991), Hugh Walker (1988), Tony Clements (1986), Ben Grzybek (1976), Lew Olsen (1973), Rex Goodson (1970), and John Simmons (1969)

Relive Royals History at royalsretro.blogspot.com

by RoyalsRetro on Jun 7, 2007 12:47 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Gathright is good so far
just to stick it to me. More power to him (in more ways than one).

by devil_fingers on Jun 7, 2007 12:47 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Royals taking Moustakas now?
BA draft blog

Jim Callis, on his way to a Chicagoland studio to participate in ESPN's draft coverage, reports the Royals appear to have settled on Mike Moustakas with the No. 2 overall pick. That would slide Josh Vitters to the Cubs at No. 3. The Royals looked like they were on Vitters at 2 last night, but they now have changed their minds. Indiana prep righty Jarrod Parker is the odd man out in this scenario, dropping from the Cubs at 3, probably to the Diamondbacks at 9 or Giants at 10. He won't get past the Marlins at 12.
This leaves the Orioles as the biggest question mark in the first five picks. Stay tuned.

Relive Royals History at royalsretro.blogspot.com

by RoyalsRetro on Jun 7, 2007 12:52 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

2b of the future?
If you were a hotdog would you eat yourself? I know I would!

by greggagneHOF on Jun 7, 2007 12:54 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

If so, I say grab his ass
Is that where he would play?

by royaldaddy on Jun 7, 2007 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

If they think they could turn him into
a secondbaseman, go for it. We need a 2B. Problem is, he's a high school kid (a few years away)

by royaldaddy on Jun 7, 2007 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I was thinking that
but Chukar convinced me that Wieters would be our best play. But, I guess he's wanting massive money

by royaldaddy on Jun 7, 2007 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think I'd prefer Vitters
High school pitchers seem to be such crapshoots.  

I just wish the Royals could have avoided sweeping the Tigers at season's end. Seems like Price might have been a better prize than the bottle of champagne we got from Torii Hunter.

by marbotty on Jun 7, 2007 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

maybe odie thought...
wedge had pulled hafner, like he did last night
What hath Bell wrought?

by FireBell on Jun 7, 2007 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

So now we're down to two projected 3B
but we know how much stock to put in position projections, remember when they drafted Butler and showed him on RSTN taking grounders with Brett...just needs a little work, he'll be fine

by chukar on Jun 7, 2007 1:04 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I'm glad they're not thinking Detwiler
He seems to have peaked already from what I hear

by royaldaddy on Jun 7, 2007 1:06 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

never good
when people say he just found his control this past season. Don't like the odds that it sticks around.

by nkkc on Jun 7, 2007 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hey I thought they might be talking draft on espn
but its arm wrestling instead...Over the Top baby!
Stallone classic

by chukar on Jun 7, 2007 1:07 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

RR messed up...
we still have an hour to go
What hath Bell wrought?

by FireBell on Jun 7, 2007 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Gordo's on fire
Have you been taking karate?

by royaldaddy on Jun 7, 2007 1:08 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Indians announcer on gordo
"this kid is something with the bat", ha

by chukar on Jun 7, 2007 1:08 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

gordo having the two days of his life
What hath Bell wrought?

by FireBell on Jun 7, 2007 1:10 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

C'Mon Gordon, steal one
for the 'Boys.

(My fantasy team.)

by devil_fingers on Jun 7, 2007 1:12 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

How's the weather down there in KC?
It's windy as hell up north here. I think we're going to get some wicked storms soon.

by royaldaddy on Jun 7, 2007 1:12 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

feels like a storm is blowing in
What hath Bell wrought?

by FireBell on Jun 7, 2007 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

god i'm tired
let's get a win. That would be nice.

Is it really draft day already?

I got bored...sue me

by loyal2theroyals on Jun 7, 2007 1:16 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

you're back!
What hath Bell wrought?

by FireBell on Jun 7, 2007 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

for a little bit
I leave for Mass. in a week...less than a week technically.
I got bored...sue me

by loyal2theroyals on Jun 7, 2007 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

today's game is boring as hell
I hate to say it but its true
What hath Bell wrought?

by FireBell on Jun 7, 2007 1:16 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Brian Anderson in the tribe booth today
he was a helluva opening day starter

by chukar on Jun 7, 2007 1:17 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Jeff Passan of Yahoo Baseball
Also predicting Vitters at #2.  

by marbotty on Jun 7, 2007 1:19 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

jarrod is the sleeper
What hath Bell wrought?

by FireBell on Jun 7, 2007 1:20 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Gutey 3 career homers, 2 in this series
other against sisco, sweet

by chukar on Jun 7, 2007 1:22 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Odie Update
ERA: 5.66

pitches: 81

by royalsreview on Jun 7, 2007 1:29 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

perez at 81, gonna be a ducky day
carmona on pace for 8

by chukar on Jun 7, 2007 1:29 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Good day for Ducky to go in
These are usually the sort of tight games that Bell would put Wellemeyer in.

by marbotty on Jun 7, 2007 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Maybe one more inning for Perez
and His Petulance will leave thinking that he's been shortchanged with run support ... instead of realizing he was lucky not to get bombed worse.
2007 Royals -- the song remains the same

by tfn on Jun 7, 2007 1:31 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

and they hit good pitches on him
but actually if he gives us 5 with 2 runs that's about all we can ask at this point

by chukar on Jun 7, 2007 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yea...
although i might take an extra run along with another inning

by royalsreview on Jun 7, 2007 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yea that's a good tradeoff, especially
when he and elarton are back to back

by chukar on Jun 7, 2007 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

More than I was hoping for, to be honest.
But let's don't count our chickies since he isn't there yet.
2007 Royals -- the song remains the same

by tfn on Jun 7, 2007 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I am happy so far with Odie....
He is keeping us in the game and if he goes 5 I will be thrilled.  Now if we could just string together a couple of hits....

by grudz69 on Jun 7, 2007 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hey -- top of the order coming up
Runs are almost certain for us

by marbotty on Jun 7, 2007 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I see are hitting strength from last night
hasn't carried over to today.  I am enjoying Gator and his spark as long as it lasts. .750 ave. go Gator!!!!!

Gordo 2-2...see your mother told you those prunes would help....

by grudz69 on Jun 7, 2007 1:35 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

bad call on gator, clearly inside
i like his patience

by chukar on Jun 7, 2007 1:35 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

we need to keep this game close
What hath Bell wrought?

by FireBell on Jun 7, 2007 1:36 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

If Giambi tells all
Do you respect him more or think he's just a snitch?

by royaldaddy on Jun 7, 2007 1:36 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

hard guy to read
but he does seem to have some conscience about it

by chukar on Jun 7, 2007 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think I'll respect him more
If one guy would just stand up and say, "What we did was wrong and I'm going to try to make it right." I'd be happy. I think Giambi could be that guy. He'd be hated by the Union, but beloved by the fans.

by royaldaddy on Jun 7, 2007 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Draft starts in 20 minutes!
Only 25 minutes away from the Royals selecting __!  

by marbotty on Jun 7, 2007 1:40 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

hope the kid goes to the chukars
so i can go check him out

by chukar on Jun 7, 2007 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i hope he goes to wilmington
for the same reason.   Unlikely, though, if it's Porcello, Vitters or Parker.

by marbotty on Jun 7, 2007 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Now, heeeeere's Jhonny ...
with the whiff!
2007 Royals -- the song remains the same

by tfn on Jun 7, 2007 1:44 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

i can proudly say i saw sisco as a short season
boise hawk, he was dominating then and considered a very hot prospect

by chukar on Jun 7, 2007 1:44 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

c'mon david
looked weak
What hath Bell wrought?

by FireBell on Jun 7, 2007 1:47 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Maybe Odie...could go 6...
He is only at 93 and he had a 1-2-3 last inning.  

by grudz69 on Jun 7, 2007 1:49 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Maybe , but
he's been having trouble with the upcoming part of the order, for some reason
2007 Royals -- the song remains the same

by tfn on Jun 7, 2007 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Emil goes yard here
2007 Royals -- the song remains the same

by tfn on Jun 7, 2007 1:52 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

MLB.com's Mayo and Goldstein projected
Porcello at #2.  Their projection was from May 31st, though, which was SOOOOOO last week.

by marbotty on Jun 7, 2007 1:56 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Perez: checking the wind as he left the mound
yep, blowing out to center

by chukar on Jun 7, 2007 1:58 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

My "cocaine era" post towards the top
I realized I posted here earlier and meant to post in another diary.  Sorry!
http://royalsnation.proboards62.com/

by Royals Nation on Jun 7, 2007 1:59 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

this is where tivo is awesome
freeze the game and watch the draft

by chukar on Jun 7, 2007 1:59 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Nice set-up
Just like the NFL draft. Good deal. And someone with a brain on discussion (Gammons). ESPN gets an ataboy for this product.

by royaldaddy on Jun 7, 2007 2:05 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

at least they wont be yelling at each other
vitters a very fresh faced youngster

by chukar on Jun 7, 2007 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

ooh, alex sniffing at
hitting for the cycle! single, double, triple. His first 3 hit game! Whoo.
I got bored...sue me

by loyal2theroyals on Jun 7, 2007 2:07 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Oh Shit!
You're right. The dude from Evil Dead, right? Holy Shit, I never realized that.

by royaldaddy on Jun 7, 2007 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The Royals' answer to Carl Crawford!
Now, if they could just find their own version of J. P. Howell...

by devil_fingers on Jun 7, 2007 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Price is gone
Royals on the clock

by royaldaddy on Jun 7, 2007 2:16 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Go Gator....
3-1  we can come back and win this one.  Go Blue...

by grudz69 on Jun 7, 2007 2:18 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

we're getting shafted
they keep talking about the Rays effing pick.

$10 says during the cubs' clock time they talk about what the cubs will do.

I got bored...sue me

by loyal2theroyals on Jun 7, 2007 2:20 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Let's win this game
Gordo gets the cycle and we pick a kid that can come up here sometime soon and help us win the central. (Overflowing Optimism)

by royaldaddy on Jun 7, 2007 2:20 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Chatsworth baby!
I've walked those streets

by royalsreview on Jun 7, 2007 2:21 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

drafted the SS!
Put him in the majors right away!

by mazoboom on Jun 7, 2007 2:21 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Who did we take????
The suspence is killing me.  

by grudz69 on Jun 7, 2007 2:22 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

It doesn't matter what you call him
he's not gonna be signed and he'll be drafted by some other team next year...

by mazoboom on Jun 7, 2007 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, okay
Not really the sexy pick I was looking for. Can he play short at the big league level? A Boras guy? WTF!!!

by royaldaddy on Jun 7, 2007 2:22 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Phew!!!!!! Now, I can go to the john....
Vitters in Idaho.... can't wait...

by grudz69 on Jun 7, 2007 2:22 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Mike Moustakas
HS SS

Word is the Royals talked with Boras and determined that he is signable.

Tremendous power.  Best power potential in the draft from what I've read.  Projects to 3B/1B, probably.

by NYRoyal on Jun 7, 2007 2:23 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I'm not impressed at all
Why the hell did we take a Boras guy if it's not going to be Wieters or Porcello?

by royaldaddy on Jun 7, 2007 2:23 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I think the Royals may have blown it
I understand that with the new rules, if you don't sign your 1st rounder, you get that pick again next year.  So, we should have tried for Wieters, and then if we failed to sign him, we'd get like the 1st and 3rd overall picks next year. (Assuming we're in last place at this season's end).

Even still, why not Vitters?

by marbotty on Jun 7, 2007 2:24 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

that would be the question
obviously cubs go vitters

by chukar on Jun 7, 2007 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oops... it is the greek kid....
He has a better bat than Vitters.... Oh well, I will still be happy to see him with the Chukars....

by grudz69 on Jun 7, 2007 2:24 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Seemingly a power pick
Projects more HR type-power than Vitters

Projects as a 3B or possibly athletic enough to be catcher

by CentralChamps2009 on Jun 7, 2007 2:25 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Some teams think Moustakas projects
as a better hitter than Vitters.  And is more affordable than Wieters, considering the huge money Boras will demand (much more than Moustakas).

by NYRoyal on Jun 7, 2007 2:25 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

both have Boras as agent, though, oddly enough
I guess Sickels likes him more than Vitters, so that's something.

by marbotty on Jun 7, 2007 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

who called it
we got like, 2 minutes and then they move on. Don't you love the ESPN bias?
I got bored...sue me

by loyal2theroyals on Jun 7, 2007 2:26 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

to be fair
the only highlight they've shown of an actual baseball game was Gordon's triple.

by mazoboom on Jun 7, 2007 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Just what we need another prospect that
projects to be a 3B/1B.  Just because Boras says he is signable now...doesn't mean anything.  I wouldn't trust him farther than I could see him.  I think we should have taken Vitters.  

But, what do I know?

by grudz69 on Jun 7, 2007 2:27 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I would trust Satan before
I would trust Boras. We should've taken Wieters.

by royaldaddy on Jun 7, 2007 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

ESPN hates us
The entire time leading up to our pick was talking about Price, interviewing Price, interviewing others about Price.  KC picks, they talk about Moustakas for 20 seconds, take a commercial, talk about the Cubs (who take Vitters).

Hey ESPN, the feeling is mutual

by CentralChamps2009 on Jun 7, 2007 2:27 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

You NEVER draft for position need in the first rd.
Certainly not in a top 10 pick.  You take the best player who is worth the money he is demanding.  Considering Moustakas won't be in the majors for 3-4 years, you don't know what the need will be then, nor what position he'll be playing by then.

by NYRoyal on Jun 7, 2007 2:29 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

and in HS the best athlete play SS
this kid could wind up anywhere, even catcher as they mentioned

by chukar on Jun 7, 2007 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well, the R's now have surprised 2 years in a row
Nobody saw the Hochevar pick coming, really, either.  Time will tell if these were wise picks.

by marbotty on Jun 7, 2007 2:33 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

i am annoyed with the MM pick
but what do i know...

damn damn damn

by LeoBloom on Jun 7, 2007 2:33 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

only thing i'll be annoyed with is
listening to mooooooooooose, and announcers "those aren't boos"

by chukar on Jun 7, 2007 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

All prospects are maybes
And there was no obvious #2 pick.  So I find it hard to find fault with picking one of the many good choices available.

And, quite frankly, we don't know a whole lot about any of these guys.

by NYRoyal on Jun 7, 2007 2:36 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

really hope alex gets a homerun
how good would that be for his psyche and such?
I got bored...sue me

by loyal2theroyals on Jun 7, 2007 2:38 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I just hope Moose stays healthy.
Come on Duckster....

by grudz69 on Jun 7, 2007 2:42 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Selig just butchered the pronunciation
of Missouri. And not by saying Missour-ah, either. God damn.
I got bored...sue me

by loyal2theroyals on Jun 7, 2007 2:43 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

We are playing the old song again.
seven hits and six stranded....  with only one run...crap...

by grudz69 on Jun 7, 2007 2:44 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

TPJ pulls a b-error-a
god damn, even I know that you gotta put the glove on the ground when going for a grounder.
I got bored...sue me

by loyal2theroyals on Jun 7, 2007 2:46 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

How long until the 2nd round?
Are they still going to have 5 minutes between picks in the compensation round?

by marbotty on Jun 7, 2007 2:47 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Is Ducky starting to struggle...
How about Gobble again?

by grudz69 on Jun 7, 2007 2:47 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Draft Tracker
Does anyone know of a draft tracker besides the one on mlb.com?  It requires flash 9, and I can't download it at work... if anyone else knows (where I can at least get a constantly updated list), please help!

by Cu Chulainn on Jun 7, 2007 2:48 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I don't think
I can look at Moustakas' ugly mug for the next ten years.
"If a tie is like kissing your sister, then losing is like kissing your grandmother with her teeth out." -- George Brett

by u l washington's toothpick on Jun 7, 2007 2:48 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

new ESPN lingo
"light tower power" or have i been under a rock

by chukar on Jun 7, 2007 2:53 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

utterly
completely disappointed with the pick, perhaps my least favorite position player at #2
Let's go Royals! And Let's go Timmeh!

by playingwithfire on Jun 7, 2007 2:55 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

pathetic
What an embarrasing display of baseball.

by Randa4life on Jun 7, 2007 2:57 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Is That
What's going on here? Baseball?
Being a fan is irrational, but what is the alternative?

by philofthenorth on Jun 7, 2007 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Listening on the radio...
and can only imagine how ugly that last play was. Sizemore all the way to third?

by nkkc on Jun 7, 2007 2:58 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

blooped one in down LF line
then to third on throw to plate

by chukar on Jun 7, 2007 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

well, sure
but he misplayed it faster than anyone on the team

by marbotty on Jun 7, 2007 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's right!
Speed, baby! It's an error, but it's a gritty, hardnosed one!

by devil_fingers on Jun 7, 2007 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

nope, no error actually
but we can nitpick if we like

by chukar on Jun 7, 2007 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

and he went 2-3 with a SB...
I don't see a lot of others doing that.  Keep it up Gator...

by grudz69 on Jun 7, 2007 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Indeed
Very little about Gathright to complain about right now.  Let's hope he keeps it up.

by marbotty on Jun 7, 2007 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

a very brief bobble, sizemore went to 3rd
on throw, no biggie, he's getting on and wreaking havoc with the baseball world right now

by chukar on Jun 7, 2007 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Meanwhile, spoiled, cocky Gordon
didn't even get the cycle when he had the chance. Single. Pfft. Send him down. Opens up more playing time for guys who worked for it. 4-4. No RBIs, though. WEAK. More speedy corner outfielders with no power, that's what we need!

by devil_fingers on Jun 7, 2007 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

so you were against sending berroa down
and bringing up gatt when the offense was completely stagnant; what was your brilliant move to solve this problem

by chukar on Jun 7, 2007 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

geez
sorry. Tone doesn't come through too well on the "net. I like Garhright. Like I said yesterday, I hope he keeps it up.  and I wish I could watch him, since he's faster than hell. I'm not sure what comment I have that could be construed as favoring Berroa. I just don't think Gathright's the answer long-term for an OF starter in any position. He won't hit enough. Hopefully I'm wrong.

Perhaps pre-gane car-jumping will be added and count for scoring, though.

by devil_fingers on Jun 7, 2007 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

One game doesn't make a season...
since we are letting him play in the bigs. We shall see if this was just a one game flash in  the pan.

by grudz69 on Jun 7, 2007 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

L2R take on the Moustakeer
He's not too bad looking. His eyebrows are a bit heavy, but I'm not going to lose sleep over something like that. He's only 18, so he's got a few years before he hits his peak. Plenty of time for him to develop his hottness. Overall, I give this pick a A-/B+
I got bored...sue me

by loyal2theroyals on Jun 7, 2007 3:11 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

No cycle but
I'll take 4 hits in a game by Gordo. 200 here he comes!

by nkkc on Jun 7, 2007 3:11 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Well, this has gotten real ugly.
Pitching = D...Odie left only behind 3-1

Hitting = D...Gordo ate his prunes and look what happened.

Defense = C...we got a DP and an outfield assist from DeJ... and Pena got his 10th error.

We deserve the 8-1 loss the way we played.  

Bring on the Philly Phanatic ...Slugger will either play with his butt or stomp him into the ground.  A win win situation all around.

by grudz69 on Jun 7, 2007 3:13 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

L2s dad says
if we can get it to 8-5 with bases loaded, 2 outs, gordon will be up again with a chance to get a grand slam for the win AND hit for the cycle.

He's a lofty dreamer, isn't he?

I got bored...sue me

by loyal2theroyals on Jun 7, 2007 3:15 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

2 on, no outs
Thanks goodness we didn't give up any extra runs in the bottom of the 8th...oh, wait, nevermind.

by nkkc on Jun 7, 2007 3:16 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

it could happen
on the other hand, that depends on our "speed and defense up the middle" (in the corners, too. And not so great on defense) guys not ending the game.

by devil_fingers on Jun 7, 2007 3:17 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

defense suddenly becomes irrelevant
when you give up the dingyarders

by marbotty on Jun 7, 2007 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I really can't complain about this

Maybe his playing ability, but as I have no clue...::shrugs::

I got bored...sue me

by loyal2theroyals on Jun 7, 2007 3:20 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

He looks a normal 18 year old jock.
He is going to be a lot richer very soon.

by grudz69 on Jun 7, 2007 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Why, oh why is Costa are team
pinch hitter?  Could it be his lofty ave. .190?  Could it be his on base percentage?  Or, could it be now that Berroa is gone he is Buddo's boy?

Let's at least get somebody who has a chance of getting a hit.

by grudz69 on Jun 7, 2007 3:20 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I think you all owe me a debt of gratitude
for motivating Gathright through my badmouthing.

You're welcome!

by devil_fingers on Jun 7, 2007 3:22 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Hey, it's not like
I retroactively put him down!

Maybe if all you guys start sticking up for Gordon, and I start trashing him, the turnaround will be permanent.

In any case, when does the "DeJesus sucks" bandwagon start?

by devil_fingers on Jun 7, 2007 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

did you miss something it has started a
couple of games a go.  I think he just needs a break.

by grudz69 on Jun 7, 2007 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ha
I guess I did miss it. Are people seriously saying that? Man, I was just trying to make a joke about the knee-jerk irrationality of sports fans. The guys just in a slump.

Unless "slumps" don't happen anymore.

by devil_fingers on Jun 7, 2007 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Lucky Bastard!!!
You looked like a bitch catching that!

by royaldaddy on Jun 7, 2007 3:23 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

To clarify
Not like a woman (those softball chicks are badass! I've been loving watching them play). But like a he-bitch. I never refer to women with that word. Just had to make that clear.

by royaldaddy on Jun 7, 2007 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

On behalf of all women,
pology NOT accepted.

You dead, dawg.

by devil_fingers on Jun 7, 2007 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

er...
.....

I can speak for myself, you know.

I got bored...sue me

by loyal2theroyals on Jun 7, 2007 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

was your wife or daughter next to you...
shame, shame, shame....

by grudz69 on Jun 7, 2007 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

No, but my mother and father always
taught me to respect women. My mother told me that it was disrespectful to her if I did and my father said that if he ever heard that I was disrespecting women, he would disown me. So, I've always respected women.

by royaldaddy on Jun 7, 2007 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

When did this turn so serious?
I thought the apology was funny. I'll just use any chance to make an inappropriate Elijah Dukes reference.

by devil_fingers on Jun 7, 2007 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sorry, man
It's just something that has been beaten into my brain by my folks. I didn't mean for it to be a buzzkill.

by royaldaddy on Jun 7, 2007 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm just relieved my wife finally got home
to make my lunch, I was starving and trying to watch TV

by chukar on Jun 7, 2007 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I hate that
I think I'm getting Hamburger Helper tonight. Whooo Hoooo!!!! There's just something about country boys and Hamburger Helper.

by royaldaddy on Jun 7, 2007 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

At least Gator came through in the end.
Besides Gator and Gordo.... we pretty much sucked the entire game.  If you  take away the above two...the team got two hits.  What offense????

Same story different game...

by grudz69 on Jun 7, 2007 3:26 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I know the problem
I didn't have my RR shirt on today. I wore it last night and usually don't like to wear the same thing daily. I'll have my wife wash it and have it on tomarrow night.

by royaldaddy on Jun 7, 2007 3:44 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Actually, I liked this game
For the hope it gives that Gordon can turn it around and Gathright can be useful. Even if it was a loss, if this is Gordon's breakout game I will welcome it gladly.

by Eppenweb on Jun 7, 2007 3:45 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

god this system is so screwed, they get the
best talent after winning the league title...money is ruining this game

by chukar on Jun 7, 2007 4:42 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

i dont think they will sign him
If you were a hotdog would you eat yourself? I know I would!

by greggagneHOF on Jun 7, 2007 4:53 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

this is so fair, the giants get 38 picks before we
get to our 2nd pick
If you were a hotdog would you eat yourself? I know I would!

by greggagneHOF on Jun 7, 2007 4:54 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Curt Schillng
is tossing a ___ in Oakland right now. They're heading into the 7th. I'm not wanting to jinx him. I really like Curt.

by royaldaddy on Jun 7, 2007 5:04 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

God
I hate the hypothetical "If these players were free agents" argument for why its justified that good players can ask for more money than a lot of teams can afford and thus slip down in the draft.

It makes so many ridiculous and specious assumptions its not funny.

by wildthang on Jun 7, 2007 5:16 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Freaking Law: if truly a "free market"
they'd all want to go play for the Yankees anyway cuz they grew up yankee fans...

and Ravetch acting concerned about the problem when he loves this system

by chukar on Jun 7, 2007 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Rem-dog isn't even speaking of it
The NESN team is being very hush hush

by royaldaddy on Jun 7, 2007 5:25 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

1 batter away
Come On Curt!!!!!! You can do it!!

by royaldaddy on Jun 7, 2007 5:47 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

doh

by chukar on Jun 7, 2007 5:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Shit!
My wife ruined it!! She said no-hitter. WTF? Damn good effort nonetheless.

by royaldaddy on Jun 7, 2007 5:48 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Star blurb says Ladnier and Moore already
saying Moose can play SS in MLB...wouldnt put much stock in that

by chukar on Jun 7, 2007 5:49 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I'd like to see it though
A power hitting shortstop in KC? I could get used to that. Where are you hearing from Dayton?

by royaldaddy on Jun 7, 2007 5:52 PM EDT