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http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2975386

BRIDGEPORT, Conn. (AP) - Former All-Star Jose Offerman was arrested Tuesday night after charging the mound and hitting the pitcher and catcher with his bat during an independent minor league game.

Bridgeport police said Offerman was arrested, but did not detail the charge. Police said he posted bond.
Offerman, playing for the Long Island Ducks in the Atlantic League, homered in the first inning. The next inning, he was hit by a pitch from Bridgeport's Matt Beech and charged the mound with his bat.

Offerman hit Beech in the hands and struck catcher John Nathans in the head.

The game was delayed for about 20 minutes because of the melee. Offerman, Beech and Bridgeport manager and former major league pitcher Tommy John were all ejected.

There was no immediate update on the condition of Beech or Nathans.

Offerman batted .273 during his 15 seasons in the majors. He last played in the majors in 2005 with Philadelphia and the New York Mets. He was an All-Star in 1995 with the Dodgers and 1999 with Boston.

--Is this roid rage?  
The pitcher reportedly broke the middle finger on his pitching hand, the catcher may have a concussion.  

I hope Offy doesn't make the top 100 - can he be demoted?

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I saw that....
I remember Offerman as the butt of many of jokes back in his MLB playing days.  People used to say he might be the worst defensive player of all time.  I wonder how he stacks up now.
"I DARE you to make less sense."

by dejackso on Aug 15, 2007 9:46 AM EDT reply actions  

I'm just surprised
That Offerman can hit anything, much less a pitcher and a catcher.
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by RoyalsRetro on Aug 15, 2007 10:14 AM EDT reply actions  

Me too
Though I'm mostly surprised he didn't ground the catcher to first base, stranding two runners and losing the game.
A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Aug 16, 2007 10:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

I Was Going To
Post on this, but I knew this would not slip by this group. Hit in the calf? If he was beaned, would he go full auto on the crowd? Lock him up, for our safety and his.
Being a fan is irrational, but what is the alternative?

by philofthenorth on Aug 15, 2007 11:55 AM EDT reply actions  

Tommy John
I always knew that guy was a bad apple.

by CentralChamps2009 on Aug 16, 2007 12:26 AM EDT reply actions  

It does raise the question, though...
if him going after a pitcher with a bat is assault, isn't intentionally throwing a baseball at a hitter the same thing? Are they going to throw the next pitcher who beans someone in the slammer?

I'm not saying Offerman was right, clearly he wasn't. I just think it would be good to question the "platitudes" of baseball regarding retaliation, charging the mound and fighting. In the real world, if you swing a fist at someone it's assault; not in baseball. If you throw a hard object with the intent to harm, it's assault. Obviously, using a weapon is more egregious. But there is a fine line when what happens in the arena of sport comes into legal question.

by Big Guy on Aug 16, 2007 11:29 AM EDT reply actions  

Distinction
Being beaned is part of the game. Being hit with a bat is not.

I think the Supreme Court made that distinction in Hackbart vs. Cincinnati Bengals. I think they said a football player consents to be tackled, so he cannot sue for battery. But he does not consent to get punched in the face, because that is not part of the game, and that can be a criminal or civil offense.

There was also a similar case in hockey a few years ago with Marty McSorley and Donald Brashears. Fights are a part of hockey, but getting hit in the side of the face with a stick is not.

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by RoyalsRetro on Aug 16, 2007 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

Does Chico Lind enter this convo???...
The Mike Vick Hall of Shame is filling quickly
Buy the ticket, take the ride.

by PhattStairs on Aug 17, 2007 2:44 AM EDT reply actions  

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