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How About That Greinke Kid?

After getting shutout by a washed-up Jose Contreras, it seemed like the Royals had hit a low point for the year. Indeed, as documented by Will, yesterday's game may have been the worst nine-inning event of the year. If it wasn't, it sure as heck felt that way; lately, with the Royals on the losing end of most of their recent games, it seems the mood here has fallen from "we're a team on the upswing" to "here we are, losing again in September. Who cares that we might be better next year? Right now this stinks." I'm not referring to anyone specifically. Suffice to say that recent arguments about Buddy Bell's positive influence on Alex Gordon, Bell's flagrant neglect of Huber and Brazell, Bell's management of the bullpen...well, Bell's not a good manager, really he's not, but recently he's been the topic of choice for everyone to vent their frustrations. He's been bad in a lot of ways, and I won't defend him. As grudz's diary says, there's only nine more days of Bell's tenure. There's precious few games left in the season, so we all might as well try to enjoy them. What? You say it's hard to enjoy a shut-out by Jose Contreras? That this team has given up? That Dayton Moore isn't what he's cracked up to be? Wow, this is snowballing a bit...

Enter Zack Greinke. Eight innings pitched. 101 pitches, 75 strikes. Two hits allowed. Zero runs. Ten strikeouts. Who cares if Yankees-Red Sox got top billing on the 6 PM EST SportsCenter (on a day where neither team played...), Zack was dynamite on the mound today when everyone on the team and, indeed, us Royals Reviewers, needed a shot in the arm. Step back a moment from the Royals' 66-86 record and just think how crazy cool it is that Zack Greinke is pitching lights-out ball in the starting rotation after all the kid has been through. Since moving back into a starting role, Zack has allowed four earned runs twenty-nine innings pitched. He K:BB ratio after today is 25:8 over the same time period. Yeah, okay, it's the White Sox. They can't hit very well at all. Greinke would've shut down the Yankees the way he was pitching today. At this point, you have to like his chances to force his way into the rotation in 2008.

Anxiety problems? Since a very rough start that bounced him from the rotation the first time around, Greinke sure as heck hasn't shown anything on the field that suggests he wants to hide under the mound. In pitching a full season this year, he's beat the odds laid out for him after almost completely losing last year. Greinke has suffered at the hands of his own anxiety as recently as 2006, had problems meshing his approach with the pitching coach's suggestions as recently as 2005, and lost his starting spot at the beginning of 2007. You could be forgiven if you'd gone lukewarm or worse on Greinke's chances since his sparkling rookie season.

A successful trip to the bullpen and a September resurgence later, Zack's reminding us all that there sure as hell was something there to get everyone excited about him in the first place. Plus, in case you forgot, the dude turns 24 in October. In a time where perhaps we're all a little too caught up in the misery of the present instead of looking forward to the bright future, Greinke's performance today showed us Royals fans that there's fun to be had at the baseball park right now. Zack Greinke, I salute you.

Special thanks on this piece goes to Joakim Soria for displaying his usual ass-kickery in the ninth inning, sealing the "W" for Zack.

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Well said
It's easy to overlook just how far he's come and what a successful year it has been for him. There are legitimate reasons to be excited about this guy going forward.

by cookierojas73 on Sep 20, 2007 9:02 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Isn't He Still Younger Than
Rowdy Hardy? And not by a little?
Being a fan is irrational, but what is the alternative?

by philofthenorth on Sep 20, 2007 9:05 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Good season for the Royals
With a September swoon, it is easy for short-sighted fans to overlook all the good that has happened this season.  More wins, much better pitching, some great offensive prospects.  Greinke's resurgence is one of the best parts of this season.  Thank god Bell moved him to the bullpen where apparently learned how to be a major league pitcher.
I probably disagree with you.

by NYRoyal on Sep 20, 2007 9:09 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Managers get the blame...and credit
The final decision for who plays in which roles on a team is made by the manager.  McClure and/or Moore may have suggested it, but it was Bell's call.  He gets the credit for that, just as he gets the blame for overplaying Larue.
I probably disagree with you.

by NYRoyal on Sep 21, 2007 12:44 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Harrelson Commented On How
Greinke blew the Sox down the first time he faced them, then turned into a finesse pitcher and was not effective thereafter. Perhaps young Zack needed to figure out who he is, and going to the pen and letting it all out showed him the path to success in the bigs. Either that or he'll be nibbling and throwing 87 MPH heaters next time out. I hope it's something like the former.
Being a fan is irrational, but what is the alternative?

by philofthenorth on Sep 20, 2007 9:27 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Greinke has said
...that while pitching in the bullpen and with the advice of Riske, he has learned that his stuff is what makes him effective.  He said that early in the season in the rotation and in prior seasons, he felt like he had to make perfect pitches in perfect spots in order to compete in the majors.  Now he knows that he needs to just rare back and throw as hard as he can.  One of the reasons this works for him because he has enough natural control to make it work.  I think he's really learned how to pitch in the majors now.

We've had 3 SP's with an ERA under 4 this year.  I wouldn't be at all surprised if we had that again next year.

I probably disagree with you.

by NYRoyal on Sep 20, 2007 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

nice call phrase NYR...
agree to disagree...OK
Buy the ticket, take the ride.

by PhattStairs on Sep 21, 2007 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks
I agree to disagree with most people.  :)
I probably disagree with you.

by NYRoyal on Sep 21, 2007 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well Put
Yes, we have 3 starters with an ERA under 4 this year and GMDM said at the beginning of the year that it all begins with the starters, once you have them, everything else will fall in place. If Buckner pitches well against the Tigers tonight, I think he is our 4th man in the rotation and Hochevar will be the 5th by the way he has been pitching since he has been called up.
A Loyal Royal

by bobchisam on Sep 21, 2007 8:47 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

While I agree with you, NYRoyal
in your statement that moving to the bullpen was the key, I think it is would be remiss to not point out that PRIOR pitching coaches/managers/GMs planted the idea in his head to "pitch to contact" and "pace himself because you are a starter". One could argue that said "coaching" seriously delayed his development as an ace. To me, that's the real untold story. Hopefully, with Moore in charge now, blunders like that will stay a thing of the past.

by loyal2s dad on Sep 21, 2007 10:22 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

It's hard to say
There were obviously mistakes made in the past and I hope the next manager keeps McClure as his pitching coach.

That said, I don't think most of us can imagine experiencing the psychological nightmare that Greinke went through.  He has truly been one of the success stories of the 2007 Royals.

by jbrocato on Sep 21, 2007 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

pitch to contact
another idiotic, popular idea in KC
Anyone but Terry

by FireBell on Sep 21, 2007 12:17 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

#4 & #5 Starters
I'll be very optimistic about Buckner IF he has a good outing tonight.  I could be wrong but I believe his last game against the Indians was his first above average outing where he kept his walks down.

Hochevar as #5...possibly, but he's got a long way to go to make that happen.  Despite his good ERA so far, I'm needing to see more strikeouts.

I don't fight extra players.

by paleblueeyes on Sep 21, 2007 2:41 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Buckner has a lot of work to do
I believe he has more walks than strikeouts in the majors so far this year.  So the ERA is ok, but the peripherals don't look good at all yet.

I'm actually more optimistic about Hochevar for next year.  He's got better stuff than Buckner or any Royals prospect.  I think he's likely to put it together next year (for the record, "put it together" for a rookie season in the majors means having an ERA not much over 5 with decent peripherals).

I probably disagree with you.

by NYRoyal on Sep 21, 2007 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

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