Royals Insider: Jose Guillen
After a four-day break, we focus on the next Royals Insider victim, arguably our highest profile offseason acquisition, Jose Guillen.

What brand of Jose Guillen will surface this year?
Signed as a nondrafted free agent out of San Cristobal, Dominican Republic by the Pittsburgh Pirates in 1992, Guillen was projected as a five-tool corner outfielder. After working his way through the three lowest Pirates Minor league affiliates, Guillen experienced a breakthrough season in 1996, his first full campaign. He hit .322/.357/.498 and stole 24 bases in 37 attempts in 528 at-bats. The following season, the talent-thin Pirates, desperate to seek help in their depleted outfield, Guillen was promoted to Pittsburgh, and he stuck the entire season, hitting 14 home runs and driving in 70 runs in 498 at-bats and 143 games. In 1998, he almost duplicated his '97 line exactly, connecting for a similar .267/.298/.414 clip. The right-hander began to develop a reputation as a free-swinger throughout the league, with considerable power (38 doubles in 1998) but not quite enough compensation for his lackluster plate discipline and batting average.
The following season, Guillen was traded to the Devil Rays for catchers Humberto Cota and Joe Oliver. Guillen spent most of the season playing second fiddle for last-place Pittsburgh and Tampa Bay, and experienced a rather dramatic power dropoff, overall. Guillen spent the following two seasons being nagged with injuries, including two sprains to his left knee. He would spend the following two seasons playing for Cincinnati, Arizona, and Oakland. For Cincinnati in 2003, he experienced an overwhelming power surge, and hit .337/.385/.629 in the first half of the season, before being traded to the postseason-aspiring Oakland Athletics. Perhaps Guillen's offensive breakout was stalled because of his age; he was rushed through the minors and began playing full time at merely 21 years old. The following two seasons, Guillen found success with the Anaheim Angels (.294/.352/.497/.849) and the inaugural Washington Nationals (.283/.338/.479/.817). After a 2006 that was riddled with injuries (right hamstring and elbow forced him to play in only 69 games), the Seattle Mariners signed Guillen to a one-year contract, with a club option, before 2007. He surged through again in 2007 with the Emeralds, hitting 99 RBI's, 23 home runs, and 28 doubles in 593 at-bats.
After 2006, the Mariners declined a $9MM team option on Jose Guillen, who knew that he would perhaps receive more guaranteed cash on the open market. Retaining Guillen quite simply didn't make sense for the Mariners, who had young outfielders Adam Jones and Wladimir Balentien (both of whom the Royals had reportedly pursued in the middle of 2007) ready to emerge onto the big league scene. Less than a month later, the Royals had become the frontrunners in the sweepstakes for the power hitter. On December 6, 2007, the R's signed him to a 3-year, $36 million contract. General Manager Dayton Moore felt that Guillen would be an offensive force in the middle of the lineup.
"We feel we have acquired an impact bat from the right side of the plate," Royals general manager Dayton Moore said. "He has a proven major league track record of success and we are looking forward to seeing him in the lineup in Kansas City."
Perhaps his late-career surge can be explained by being rushed through the minors, or could it perhaps be explained by a more sinister matter? Moore and the Royals front office seized a calculated risk that would force Guillen to continue his 2003-2005 and 2007 production while serving as an impact, middle-of-the-order bat that would eventually complement franchise hopefuls Billy Butler, Alex Gordon, and Mark Teahen. However, Guillen will serve a suspension on the first fifteen days of 2007 for violating Major League Baseball's Joint Drug Prevention and Treatment Program. Guillen had admitted to Commissioner Bud Selig that he ordered and used performance-enhancing supplements at the beginning of the '07-'08 offseason. Guillen's name would eventually appear in the San Francisco Chronicle, and later, in the Mitchell Report.
His activities in the clubhouse were often questionable at best. As I mentioned, the Halos suspended Guillen in September 2004 without pay - and also without delving into specifics. Former Devil Rays (and Royals) manager Hal McRae recently called Jose Guillen 'the most difficult human being I ever dealt with.' Most recently, the newly acquired outfielder implied that he wouldn't accept a position change in the Royals outfield. Although he would later refute such a comment, it's not difficult to realize that Guillen's "hot-headiness", so to speak, may resurface down the road in a Royals uniform. If his production tapers off in any fashion, he may become one of the most unpopular Royals in both the clubhouse and in the blogosphere.
Nonetheless, I believe Guillen will continue to serve as an above average offensive contributor next season. Here are my projections for Jose in 2008:
GS/G: 140/141
AB: 558
H: 158
AVG: .283
OBP: .349
SLG: .462
HR: 21
RBI: 85
R: 78
1B: 102
2B: 33
3B: 2
SB: 3
CS: 2
OPS+: 116
On-field performance:
Experiences significant dropoff overall: 30%
2004-2005, 2007 Guillen: 60%
Career season: 10%
Injury contingency:
Injured for 15 days or more: 20%
Whereabouts:
Staying in Kansas City all season: 100%
Job allocation:
Starting corner outfielder: 100%
ASSETS:
Overall, I feel that despite (supposedly) ceasing PED's, Guillen will continue his considerable mid-decade production into 2008. Although I somewhat dubiously questioned Dayton Moore's offense-building skills several months ago, I believe Moore not only paid market-value monetary for Guillen, but will also receive market-value production from the corner outfielder. Perhaps what Guillen may prove the city - and (of course) its surrounding area of Royals faithful - wrong is that one can continue to contribute well after using the juice. His contract will unfortunately likely be dead weight by mid-2010, but which long-term contract isn't, in this Seligian Money Era in baseball? Although Guillen will probably call his character and attitude into question with disheartening quotes several times in his Royal tenure, I believe Guillen will, in the long run, make up for it with his bat.
I'm looking forward to watching Guillen contribute from the middle of the order in 2008.
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arm
by Gordon Roy on Jan 22, 2008 6:48 AM EST reply actions
Range is significantly more important than arm
by Gopherballs on Jan 22, 2008 12:46 PM EST up reply actions
says who
by Gordon Roy on Jan 23, 2008 9:48 AM EST up reply actions
Here is one
I am not sure of his criteria other than it is based on range and excludes "holds" (throwing out runners). He concluded that last year "The worst right fielder was Jose Guillen for the Mariners with a -20 DRS. And he wasn't throwing out runners like Cuddyer." DRS = Defensive Runs Saved. A -20 would equate to roughly two additional team loses due to Guillen's feilding.
This seems out of tune with other ratings I have seen of Guillen, which place him around the middle of the pack.
by James Quinn on Jan 23, 2008 11:20 AM EST up reply actions
Seattle's outfield
Suzuki's move to CF made him just a notch above average (+4).
So, according to Dial, the Mariners had the worst RF and LF in the AL, and a CF just a bit above average. This takes any Safco pitcher's park advantage, and than some. If Dial's numbers are accurate than the Seattle OF defense came it at -39, equaling about four additional team loses.
But then again, maybe his numbers are screwy.
by James Quinn on Jan 23, 2008 11:31 AM EST up reply actions
Every defensive metric basically agrees with him
Both Dave Pinto's PMR (available at Baseball Musings) and John Dewan's RZR (published by the Hardball Times) had Guillen at the equivalent of -15 runs. PMR had Ibanez at -8, and RZR had him at -20.
And, yes, Seattle is not a smart organization for failing to comprehend the importance of defense.
Moore mad a mistake
by bobchisam on Jan 22, 2008 8:13 AM EST reply actions
Fair projection
If Guillen ever DHs, Hillman better put Butler
Do you know what would be great! If the Royals signed a better hitting outfielder than Guillen who is also a great outfielder, not a 'roid head, and also not a persistent jackass in the clubhouse. And if they did it all for the same amount of money! Hmmmm One guess who I am thinking about. (God I am a pain in the butt.)
Not every Plan A works out -- boo hoo hoo
But I totally agree with Butler at 1B, not the bench.
Well, I'm stumped - I must be thick
I am surprised that not everyone is sick of
I assumed you meant American
In retrospect, I see you didn't use the word "proven" in your post that I had responded to.
Nah, he is not proven in the US yet.
We'll see. I actually do hope I am wrong about Guillen. I'll try to start cheering for him soon. Must finish swallowing the pill of bitterness first. I am so down on Guillen that I would have rather the Royals signed Goeff Jenkins and kept Emil Brown for a L/R platoon instead.
I was ambivalent about this signing
Whipping Boy
In all seriousness, though, he hasn't even gotten to ST and people are all over him. Let's see how he plays.
he'll be traded by the deadline of 2009
i dont think the timing is great for a trade
Getting to know Jose Guillen!
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Here is a blog story from Distinguished Senators regarding Guillen's behavior in Anaheim and Washington. Some fun reading. Guillen clearly has issues with the truth, accepting criticism, and, well, just other people who happen to exist in his vicinity.
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From the Sporting News:
"Every time he goes to a new team, in the beginning you hear about what a great guy he is and a great teammate he is," an executive in the American League says. "But then something always happens. At a certain point, that's a real track record, in the same way that somebody's career numbers are a track record."The Angels must have been nodding and smiling smugly when they heard about Guillen's outburst in the dugout on July 8. After getting hit by a pitch from Pedro Martinez and teammate Esteban Loaiza failed to retaliate, Guillen got into a shouting argument with Loaiza and catcher Brian Schneider in the dugout. A similar incident in Anaheim last season was the start of Guillen's troubles with the Angels.
"A lot of people say Jose Guillen is a cancer in the clubhouse," Guillen says. "But I have never had a problem with one of my teammates. Never. Never. I've been misunderstood most of my career."
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Why did Guillen get into an on-field fight with former teammate Brendan Donnelly? "He was staring at me," the Seattle Mariners' outfielder told a reporter, after the big stink. "I don't know what he was saying, but I don't like whatever it was."
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One consistent comment from Guillen, he is misunderstood and has never acted in a way he thinks was uncalled for. He thinks he does not have a problem and that he has just gotten a bad rap from the media. "No one understands me."
bad
but when people are consistently disliked by their teammates, who are overall pretty easy to please people who dont care baout 90% of anything, thats a bad sign
seems like a good strategy
I haven't liked this signing
Guillen Blows Out
by philofthenorth on Jan 23, 2008 12:50 AM EST reply actions
he's who we thought he was
i still remember the first time i saw that, on ESPN News, night of
I Knew I Was
by philofthenorth on Jan 23, 2008 4:52 PM EST up reply actions
Cardinals
by sprntern8 on Jan 23, 2008 10:52 PM EST up reply actions
Wow
Maybe he succeeds, maybe he falls, but as a Royals fan I will be rooting for him and waiting to see what he does in Royal blue before judging him.

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