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Very high on my wish list for the upcoming year of baseball is for the Royals to find some way to get more production out of first base. One the ideas that gets hammered into your head consistently when you take up baseball analysis in a serious way is that first base and the other positions towards the wrong end of the defensive spectrum are the easiest ones to find decent production at. The thinking seems to go that while there really are not all that many guys who can hold down center or shortstop, really anyone can stand around at first base. Therefore, first basemen are usually there because of their hitting, and the candidates for the far right side of the infield are not only first base prospects, but thumpers who got too big for third or too clunky for the outfield during their minor league time. Anyway, the point is, it's supposed to be a pretty easy thing to do to find production there. Take a look at American League first basemen last year (excluding the Royals):

BAL - Kevin Millar: .254/.365/.420, .285 EQA, 14.4 VORP, 4.2 WARP3

BOS - Kevin Youkilis: .288/.390/.453, .299 EQA, 8.8 WARP3

CHI - Paul Konerko: .259/.351/.490, .290 EQA, 25.4 VORP, 5.5 WARP3

CLE - Ryan Garko: .283/.359/.483, .293 EQA, 27.8 VORP, 5.2 WARP3

DET - Sean Casey: .296/.353/.393, .269 EQA, 9.6 VORP, 2.4 WARP3

LAA - Casey Kotchman: .296/.372/.467, .297 EQA, 27.2 VORP, 6.3 WARP3

MIN - Justin Morneau: .271/.343/.492, .294 EQA, 28.8 VORP, 8.3 WARP3

NYY - No starter with significant PAs. Suffice to say that they were awfully poor at first considering the payroll.

OAK - Dan Johnson: .236/.349/.418, .285 EQA, 8.0 VORP, 2.9 WARP3 (it's hard to see anyone but Daric Barton getting the PT here in 2008)

SEA - Richie Sexson: .205/.295/.399, .255 EQA, -7.1 VORP, 3.8 WARP3

TB - Carlos Pena: .282/.411/.627, .350 EQA, 68.5 VORP, 11.9 WARP3 (holy heck!)

TEX - Mark Teixeira (traded to Braves at deadline): 297/.397/.524, .319 EQA, 26.0 VORP, 3.5   WARP3

- Brad Wilkerson (completing the picture for the Rangers at first): .234/.319/.467, .278 EQA, 6.2 VORP, 3.4 VORP

TOR - Lyle Overbay: .240/.315/.391, .256 EQA, -3.6 VORP,  3.1 WARP3

First of all, I think we all know that the DH makes a difference here. In our case, it's a moot point because our designated hitter spot was below average as well. While other teams might have had one good corner thumper who DH'ed instead of played first base, dragging them down on this list, we had no good corner thumpers for the first half of the season at all. Just Ross Gload's hustling adequateness, Shealy's "vortex of suck" bat, and then the good second halves from Butler and Gordon. For the purpose of giving Hillman the benefit of the doubt, Mark Teahen and Alex Gordon will not be discussed as first basemen. That's something that only happens in Buddy Bell's odd little world. And yes, I'm aware that to say it did significant harm to the team would be a gross exaggeration. It was just one of those head-scratchers that actually made me scratch my head instead of just being an overused expression.

Anyway, looking down this list, you'll see that Youkilis, Garko, and Kotchman, the first sackers for the playoff teams, hit particularly well this past season. Of course that's one player out a 25-man roster, but it's hard to say there's no connection between taking advantage of an offensive position and contending. The Yankees, of course, messed around with so many second and third tier jokers at the position that they demonstrated even better than the Royals how NOT to handle the position. Thing is, we have to throw the Yankees out because no other team in baseball--with the possible exceptions of Boston and the Mets--can spend the money to get offense from the other positions like New York can. Point is, of the first basemen who received the lion's share of PAs who finished the year in the AL, Youkilis, Kotchman, and Garko finished second, third, and fifth in EQA (which doesn't penalize Garko or Kotchman for the PAs they lost to their uncertain roles at the beginning of the year). Only the Captain Insaneo version of Carlos Pena and Justin Morneau crack the top five from non-playoff teams. Lesson? While you can get power production from other positions, it's sure as heck not recommended to ignore first base. The Yankees could have used Kevin Millar-level production in the playoffs.

For the upcoming 2008 season, Butler, Shealy, and Gload look like the candidates to man the 1B/DH slot for the Royals, as really no one in the minors is on the radar yet. German might pick up a few starts there, but we all know he's basically the utility man who can get on base, not a first basemen. The question, of course, is if there's anyone on this roster that can actually be a first basemen, where a "1B" is defined as a "guy who can hit twenty home runs, go to the opposite field and up the middle enough to hit .280, take a few walks, and not be an unqualified disaster in the field." Seriously, if someone from this group could combine the not-too-amazing feat of OPSing 850 and playing first base without looking like Bobby Bonilla in the field, I'd be pretty happy. So let's take a look at our candidates for the first base job.

Star-divide

Ryan Shealy

Three-year trend:

  1. .226/.291/.308 (188 PAs), 55 OPS+
  2. .277/.333/.450 (219 PAs), 100 OPS+
  3. .330/.413/.473 (less than 120 PAs). 122 OPS+
Career (those three years: .267/.333/.402

Advantages:

-Promise shown in minors in Colorado system, 2006 hints he might still break out
-Cheap cheap cheap through the alleged prime of his career
-Injuries may have affected him more than we thought in 2007
-Is better in the field than Butler! Probably!
-Did I mention breakout potential already?
-Infinitely more chance of Shealy slugging .500 than Gload.

Disadvantages:

-The guy could have been swinging a whiffle bat and he'd have been be late on Jamie Moyer's fastball last year
-Being better in the field than Butler last year means absolutely nothing
-Giving another year of PT to Shealy waiting for a breakout guarantees...nothing. Potential is just that, and thousands of ballplayers never realize their "potential."
-Time in minors was in good hitting parks, so projections may have been skewed too positively

Everyone knows that Ryan Shealy was a huge disappointment. Sadly, some of that has to with expectations being set too high. PECOTA liked Shealy to be a secondary cog in the line-up, and while he ended up being a whatever-comes-after-tertiary not-really-a-cog-so-much-as-a-vortex, his ceiling never was that of a star. It was as a guy who could do all the things I wrote above in my definition of a first basemen, playing third or fourth fiddle in the Royals line-up that was centered around Gordon and Butler. Sadly, Colorado Springs probably influenced his projection a bit, and it may be that Shealy is just one more big guy who can't hit outside the thin air.

Realistically, looking at the Royals roster right now, it's darn hard to look at Shealy and say "no playing time for you" despite his 2007 performance. Are you seriously going to tell him "we think Ross Gload gives us a better chance to build towards our 2009 championship season" with a straight face? I can't, but I never was incredibly high on the Shealmeister in the first place compared to some (remember how Will was immortalized with "blogger likes Shealy"? I wasn't stupid enough to go out on a limb like him). I acknowledge that injuries probably played some role in his abysmal .308 slugging percentage last year, and that he's probably a lot better than he showed in 2007.

Problem is, you can be "a lot better" than a 600 OPS and still be a bad hitter. Shealy's upside is not so much that the Royals should not be looking for our possibilities to compete with him in 2008 and beyond. The fact of the matter is that the "break out" potential I'm talking about includes getting back to his 2006 level, and not much more. More realistically, see that career line up there? I'm afraid I can't in good conscience say that I think he's much better than that. I don't mean to be Neyer Negative here, just trying to make it clear that you should temper your expectations for Shealy to suddenly become a bopper when his good reputation was based on thin air, the low minors, and a small sample of at-bats in '05 and '06 at the ML level.

NHZ Wild Guess: in starting line-up, OPSes over 100 points better than last year and still can't keep Ross Gload from stealing playing time.

Ross Gload

Three-year trend:

  1. .288/.318/.441, 95 OPS+ (346 PAs)
  2. .327/.354/.462, 106 OPS+ (164 PAs)
  3. .167/.205/.214, 11 OPS+ (PAs<50)
Advantages:

-Late bloomer who tries really hard
-Reliable mediocrity rather than high upside with a good chance of suckitude
-Gamer, whatever the hell that means
-Professional, like Esteban German
-Probably the best defensive first basemen on the team
-Outhit Shealy over the past two years

Disadvantages:

-Reliable mediocrity rather than suckitude with a chance of improvement
-No upside whatsoever
-Never has learned how to walk, and thus if he hits .268 he goes from useful to a major liability if he gets 350 PAs again
-Really the type of guy you'd rather have as a bench player/spot starter, as he's never started a whole year in the majors and he's already 31

Ross Gload, with all the positive accolades he gets from the coaching staffs and sportswriters, had a VORP of 5.7 last year during the season where he accumulated the most PAs of his career, which suggests heavily that Gload was exposed to some degree as the season went on. This is not to say he was not leaps and bounds better than Shealy on offensive and better defensively than Butler, but lots of other people can claim both things and it does very little to qualify them for 650 PAs and a spot in the middle of the Royals batting order.

The sad thing is, if Gload was 28 I might feel good about saying that he's better than Shealy and should grab the lion's share of the PT in the absence of a Nick Johnson trade or some other limited miracle. However, just because you arrive late does not mean you're going to leave late, and Gload is going to be 32 and he's taken 24 walks in the last three years (about a full season of playing time). The only thing he's got to stave of a tragically inevitable decline in batting average (if not this year, then the next almost certainly) is his doubles power, as he isn't much of a home run threat and he has no speed.

NHZ Wild Guess: fights his way into a time-share arrangement at 1B/DH, steals bigger half of PT from Shealy based on a prettier BA without actually outproducing Ryan by more than 10 OPS points.

Billy Ray Butler

Three-year trend:

2007: .292/.347/.447 (I knew that without looking it up, isn't that cool?), 105 OPS+ (360 PAs)
2006 (AA): .331/.388/.499
2005 (AA): .313/.353/.527
2005 (A) .348/.419/.636

Advantages:

-Out of these three players, he's the only one who can actually honest-to-jebus hit
-Yes, you read me right when I compared his stats to John Olerud's
-Walked more last year than Ross Gload did in three years, and actually remembered to bring his bat speed to the park unlike Shealy.
-Is only 22. Upside! Upside! Upside!
-Probably will be a better hitter than Gordon long term. He's that good
-Actually GIDPed into less DPs than Gload. And people think he's slow

Disadvantages:

-Sources are split on whether he can even achieve below averageness at first
-Might be trapped at DH thanks to the Ryan Shealy reclamation project
-Um...he's kind of fat. That's about it.

Butler is one of the guys on this team that it's safe to get excited about, and I'm dead serious when I say he'll be a better hitter than Gordon in his prime. Thing is, Gordon will probably still have more value due to defense and a more difficult defensive position, but Butler could be a fixture in the KC line-up...forever, if they can resign him. Toss that .447 SLG percentage as a negative out the window: he's just not close enough to his physical prime to predict how much power he'll add as he goes. And with more power, I think Butler will walk more.

The problem here is defense, and the simple lack of good options the Royals have at the two spots (1B and DH). The organization doesn't think much of his defense--no one does really--and it remains to be seen if he can improve enough to get himself on the field. Ideally, I'd like to see Butler get PT at first because he's the only one I'm profiling here that I think will be on the team in three years. Nothing is more conducive to improvement than actually getting a frigging chance to improve.

NHZ Wild Guess: plays primarily DH, wasting a bit of an opportunity as defense at first really isn't as important as, say, at a position that requires one to move. Either way, he should be in the middle of the order all season long, and improve on his rookie year (say...840 OPS).

Justin Huber

Advantages:

-He's the baseball equivalent of a back-up quarterback, a guy who has the combination of playing little enough and producing enough in the minors that prevents us from fully souring on him.

Disadvantages:

-He is actually an evil alien from Xargon-452 who exudes an aura of menace that prevents him from ever getting people to like him. Or, you know, play him.

I had to get that in, sorry.

It would be hard for the Royals not to improve on their production from the corner spots this year, but first base is one of those positions where how great of an improvement is made will be key to the Royals making a push for .500 and beyond. I'm hoping that Butler gets his shot at first because I think he's going to be a complete stud for years to come, and I hold out hope that the Royals will continue to explore other options for the other "wrong end of the spectrum" spot or 1B or DH. When you're picking between Ross Gload and Ryan Shealy for a starting spot, there really are no winners.

Spreadsheet Baseball returns next week, possibly on a different day, with more exciting analysis and Hobson's Choices for everyone. In the mean time, happy reading. Questions/comments are, as always, welcome/encouraged.

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I agree...
with your profiles. I have very little faith in Shealy. Gload is okay as a backup. Butler can hit but can't play defense. I still hope we can make a trade to get a real 1st basemen.

by djk royal on Jan 25, 2008 5:50 PM EST reply actions  

Mike Stodolka
Is there any chance he becomes the 1st basemen in 2009. The guy did have a pretty OBP in Wichita last year.

by djk royal on Jan 25, 2008 5:51 PM EST reply actions  

i guess anything is possible
but I wouldn't bet on it

we'll apparently have Gload around for quite awhile

by Freneau on Jan 25, 2008 6:05 PM EST up reply actions  

best defensive 1b in the system, supposedly
still, pretty doubtful he'll get the call, unless he murders the ball in Omaha

by marbotty on Jan 25, 2008 6:07 PM EST up reply actions  

He was not included here
because I didn't see him as an option this year, if that was part of your question.
A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Jan 25, 2008 6:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Other Gload advantages you forgot
Knows how to win.
Exudes grit from the majority of his pores.
Hard nosed player, replete with veteran presence.
Can combust at any moment.

By the way, did you mean to include the following as an advantage?

Reliable mediocrity rather than high upside with a good chance of suckitude

Because I would agree that it is an advantage, provided that you stop after the word "reliable."

by marbotty on Jan 25, 2008 6:06 PM EST reply actions  

Ehhh...
When you guys hit "read more," is the first part of the article showing up twice?

Yes I did, marbotty, twas meant to be deliciously ironic.

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Jan 25, 2008 6:10 PM EST reply actions  

thought perhaps you did
and when i read it that way, it was quite delicious

by marbotty on Jan 25, 2008 6:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Gload
Gload is now a career .294/.333/.439 hitter through 864 MLB PAs.

Not totally horrible, but also not really good. (So, he's like Diet Coke, or Starz, or My Name is Earl, or Scrubs, or a Sunday night, or...)

If only there was a little bit more power and patience. Oh, if only...

I was going to post an analysis of his new contract with the Royals, but never really got around to it. Needless to say, I thought it was pointless, and I was really disappointed in GMDM's willingness to keep around well into the future.

by Freneau on Jan 25, 2008 6:27 PM EST reply actions  

garko...
garko strikes me as the kind of generic 1B just about any team should be able to find

instead, we're locking up Gload, who is a lesser hitter, long-term

by Freneau on Jan 25, 2008 6:28 PM EST reply actions  

Huber should get the job...
No wait, he should have had the job in 2006 instead of Minky.

Yes, I know that's not fair to him. :)

by doublestix on Jan 25, 2008 6:30 PM EST reply actions  

If we eventually give up on Shealy
what do we think about sticking Butler at 1B for the rest of the year and Huber at DH and see what happens.  Then if things go bad we could pick up a FA in the offseason.  I think Shealy may be solid, but if not that seems like a solid backup plan for a half season.

by lordbyronk on Jan 25, 2008 6:31 PM EST reply actions  

We think that's a good idea
that will never, ever, ever, be actualized.
A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Jan 25, 2008 6:33 PM EST up reply actions  

why Butler at 1B?
so he can improve? or do you think Huber is worse with the glove?

by Freneau on Jan 25, 2008 9:47 PM EST up reply actions  

I just meant that Huber won't ever get
a real chance with KC. I do hope that Butler will get enough time at 1B to give us some hope that he's not a career DH.
A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Jan 25, 2008 9:51 PM EST up reply actions  

That was my thinking as well,
if Huber gets any shot with this organization, it's probably DH or nothing.  

by lordbyronk on Jan 26, 2008 7:15 AM EST up reply actions  

first base averages
AL 1Bs hit .267/.348/.443 last season.

Its seems like there are a lot of teams that aren't really taking full advanatgae of the fact that you dont have to play someone with any defensive talent there.

by Freneau on Jan 26, 2008 1:17 AM EST reply actions  

Huber
Why is it that when people talk about Huber, they never really analyze him?  I think it is because his appeal is in that he's an unknown at the major league level.  Guys who were once good prospects who haven't gotten a shot to prove themselves one way or another have the glitter of promise on them without being sullied by reality.

Advantages:

  • Has hit well in the minors.  Decent contact, ok OBP and good power in hitter's leagues.
  • Was once a well thought of prospect.
Disadvantages:
  • No prospect ranking system has ranked him as a top 10 Royals prospect in the last two years.
  • His defense is atrocious.  From everything I've read, he's horrible defensively at every position he's played.  He was an awful defensive catcher, so they moved him to the OF.  He was an awful defensive OFer, so they moved him to 1B.  And he has been awful defensively at 1B.
  • Three different GM's (and front office staff) have shown that they don't think much of him.
Yes I think he should have gotten more MLB at bats than he's gotten.  I'm all for giving him a chance, but I don't think one should expect more from Huber than from Shealy.  Shealy hit better than Huber in the minors.  Huber has hit well in the PCL and that often doesn't mean anything.  Let's look at the 2007 stats of two Omaha Royals:

Player A: .276/.336/.517
Player B: .326/.402/.502

That first guy did pretty well, but that second guy was a monster.  The Royals should really give Player B a shot in the majors.  Well, they did.  Player B is Shane Costa and he managed .223/.257/.301 in the majors.

I really do hope Huber gets significant at bats in KC in 2008 so he can fail once and for all and the Huber fetish can finally end.  I'm sure when Huber does finally fail in the majors (either in KC or somewhere else) some Royals fans will blame Baird and Moore for stunting his development.  It will be Cal Pickering all over again, only with worse stats.

I probably disagree with you.

by Scott McKinney on Jan 26, 2008 2:36 AM EST reply actions  

He's not analyzed
by me because I no longer take his chances for significant PT seriously, NYRoyal, not because I want to avoid analyzing him.
A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Jan 26, 2008 3:07 AM EST up reply actions  

I didn't mean you, per se
I was referring, generally, to those who clamor for Huber to be the 2008 1B or DH.  I was referring to those who think he'd hit better than Shealy and/or Gload.
I probably disagree with you.

by Scott McKinney on Jan 26, 2008 3:18 AM EST up reply actions  

At this point,
I think "Huber playing time" is just a running joke on this blog. :P
A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Jan 26, 2008 12:56 PM EST up reply actions  

I would couch in somewhat different terms
I think it is more of a fetish.  Fans are in love with him because he was once a good prospect and has some pretty good minor league numbers but hasn't yet had the chance to fail in the majors.  If Shealy or Costa hadn't gotten much playing time in the majors, fans would be up in arms about why these obviously good players hadn't gotten their shot yet.  "With those minor league numbers, they'll definitely be able to manage a .800-.850 OPS."  When Huber finally gets 100 MLB at bats in a season and doesn't manage a .700 OPS, this fascination with Huber will finally be over and then fans can just blame Baird, Moore and Bell for ruining this guy who would have been great if only he'd been handled right.
I probably disagree with you.

by Scott McKinney on Jan 26, 2008 1:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Well sure,
but you know why else it's such a "fetish"? I keep coming back to that thing about how it's easy to find someone to give you good production at first or DH. The Royals have struggled to find someone to fit the bill in the last couple years, while a possible cheap solution stagnates in AAA.

Now, he's probably nothing in the long term, but once upon a time he should have been given a real shot to see if he could be the "easy to find" average first baseman that I keep talking about.

It doesn't matter now, though, of course. He's stagnated to the point where I don't expect much from him if he actually gets a chance.  

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Jan 26, 2008 1:26 PM EST up reply actions  

prospect rankings
don't these things tend to factor in things like promise and potential, etc?

I mean, last year, Brazell was clearly the best hitting Royals "prospect" if you define it literally, but most sites would rather dream about Cortes or someone like that who will be good in 5 years.

by FlintHillsRoyal on Jan 26, 2008 2:13 PM EST up reply actions  

More on Huber, journeymen and the PCL
Scouts, coaches and front office staff have looked at Huber and decided that they don't think his skills translate well to the majors.  It is pretty common for guys to hit well in the PCL and not in the majors.  In fact, the PCL is known for making journeyman stiffs look good.  For instance, let's look at some of the PCL's best hitters from last year:

Brian Myrow, 31
2007 PCL .354/.440/.579
MLB career .167/.324/.233

Scott McClain, 35
2007 PCL .267/.349/.517
MLB career .133/.220/.156

Craig Brazell, 27
2007 PCL .307/.337/.605
MLB career .263/.300/.395

Scott Seabol, 32
2007 PCL .300/.366/.577
MLB career .217/.270/.292

Valentino Pascucci, 28
2007 PCL .284/.389/.577
MLB career .177/.297/.290

Nate Gold, 27
MLB career .292/.347/.516
No MLB experience (7 minor league seasons)

Most players who do well in the minors never do well in the majors.  Three different front office regimes have agreed that Huber is part of that majority and doesn't have skills which would translate into major league success.  What do we know about Huber that they don't know?  The reality is that they know a lot more about Huber than we do.

I probably disagree with you.

by Scott McKinney on Jan 26, 2008 3:19 AM EST reply actions  

not a fair comparison
All those guys that you're referring to have worse career OPS's than Huber (with the exception of Myrow) and all had their good seasons in AAA at a much later age than Huber did.

The other thing is, none of them have had more than 100 at bats in the pros, and most had fewer than 50.  Myrow, the one guy that did seem to have a slightly better minor league track record than Huber only got 30.  Is that enough to determine if he can hack it in the pros?  

Here's a better comparison.  

Player 1
Age 22 Wichita  .325/.427/.588  (1.015)
1st 80 MLB at bats:  .173/.316/.296  (Age 23)

Player 2
Age 22 Wichita  .343/.432/.570  (1.002)
1st 80 MLB at bats:  .218/.271/.256  (Age 22)

Yes, one of those is Huber.  The other is Alex Gordon (Player 1).   Gordon got another 450 at bats to see if he could straighten things out.  Huber got 20 (spread over 18 games).

I'm not trying to say that Huber is going to be as good a hitter as Gordon.  I'm just saying you should give him the opportunity.  

The big knock is that Huber can't play defense, which I accept.  But we've had a gaping hole at DH for the last three or five years, so what difference should it make?  It's sort of like having a home badly in need of a new coat of paint, and then refusing to hire a guy whose shown shown some skill at painting because he's no good at accounting.  (Worst analogy ever?  You decide.)

As for three different front office regimes not believing in Huber, I'm going to have to argue that Baird certainly believed in Huber when he traded for him and then promoted him at age 22.  

It was baseball mastermind Buddy Bell that decided to sit him in his next stint in the pros (by which time Baird was gone, anyway.)  We don't really know if the Mets valued him or not - they were trying to make the playoffs and had to give up Huber in order to obtain Kris Benson.  

So that really only leaves Moore, who's already shown a tendency to want to only use "his guys."

And aside from all this, there's always the story of Jack Cust -- a guy, like Huber, who could swing a bat but couldn't field at all.  A guy who was on his fifth team before he finally got more than 80 at bats.  A guy who didn't get an extended look until age 28.

When Cust finally made it to a team that understood how to take advantage of his skills, he ended up OPSing over .900 with 26 hrs in less than 400 at bats.  It's easy to dismiss a guy because he's been passed over, but don't forget that just because you're a major league GM, it doesn't mean your smart or infallible.

Now that he's older, the shine is off Huber a little.  He's no longer considered a prospect.  

And, to be truthful, Huber probably couldn't hit as well as Cust did last season.  But could he post an .800-.850 OPS if given the chance?  I think he could.  

At the very least, we should take the time to find out. (Or should have, anyway.)

 

by marbotty on Jan 26, 2008 6:06 AM EST up reply actions  

Huber
All those guys that you're referring to have worse career OPS's than Huber (with the exception of Myrow) and all had their good seasons in AAA at a much later age than Huber did.

Perhaps so, but I don't think the difference is particularly large.

The other thing is, none of them have had more than 100 at bats in the pros, and most had fewer than 50. Is that enough to determine if he can hack it in the pros?

But why is it that these guys aren't getting a long look at the major league level?  Many of these guys have been in multiple organizations.  And none of these organizations thought these guys were worthy of significant major league at bats.  I think that is very telling.

And aside from all this, there's always the story of Jack Cust

For every Jack Cust, there are 100 Brian Myrow's.

It's easy to dismiss a guy because he's been passed over, but don't forget that just because you're a major league GM, it doesn't mean your smart or infallible.

I've made this argument before, so I might as well make it again.  Clearly individual GM's make mistakes.  But I find it hard to believe that every MLB GM is making the same mistake.  Guys like Brazell, Myrow, etc. who never get much of a major league shot repeatedly clear waivers and are passed on by every GM.  I think that is very good evidence that these guys would stink at the major league level.

And, to be truthful, Huber probably couldn't hit as well as Cust did last season.  But could he post an .800-.850 OPS if given the chance?  I think he could.  
At the very least, we should take the time to find out. (Or should have, anyway.)

This raises the two key questions for Huber:

  1. Should he get a shot?
  2. How well do you think he'd do if given that shot?
With regard to the first question, yes I think he should get a shot.  I think he should have gotten a good look years ago, but it's not too late.  But as to the second question, I think it is ludicrous to expect that he's going to be an above average major league hitter, particularly in his first real major league season.  No one ranks Huber as a good prospect anymore.  There's a reason for that, and it's not just because he hasn't gotten his shot.  Kevin Goldstein has said as much.  You think he'd hit better than any Royal hit last year?  No way in hell.  I'd bet a month's pay against that.

The vast majority of guys who hit well in AAA never become even average major league players.  I still haven't seen any good reason to think that Huber would be in the minority who succeeds.

I probably disagree with you.

by Scott McKinney on Jan 26, 2008 12:44 PM EST up reply actions  

so instead
we'll just keep paying guys like Minky and Gload to do the same thing

by FlintHillsRoyal on Jan 26, 2008 2:15 PM EST up reply actions  

what did Alex Gordon hit in his first 200 PAs?
I take your point, but its hard to point to these guys' bad numbers, when those numbers so often come in infrequent spurts and are small samples.

by Freneau on Jan 26, 2008 3:40 PM EST up reply actions  

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