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Spreadsheet Baseball: I'm Never Writing Another Article Like This Again

After reading this unfiltered post by Gary Huckabay, I sat back and reflected on the whole performance enhancing drugs mess in baseball and the investigation that was supposed to solve it. I've read the entire massive .pdf file that is my copy of the Mitchell Report, I'm a baseball fanatic who frequents many sports sites, and I watch probably too much sports related TV given how little I care for the type of "analysis" done by most ESPN luminaries, so I'd like to think I have a reasonable good grasp on the situation faced by baseball--the players, the fans, the owners--and that I could probably do better than Selig or Mitchell in his place. In thinking this, I'd imagine I'm like a whole lot of baseball fans right now. It's not as if anyone's really satisified with the Mitchell Report except the media who had instant material for story after story after story about the villains of baseball and their dastardly deeds. It seems very unlikely that a great deal of people changed their opinions towards the whole PEDs issue based on recent events. After all, if you're a player apologist, you're probably going to use the report's heavy reliance on one trainer's uncorroborated evidence as evidence that the vaunted investigation was not very effective. You're probably also going to note how "everyone" in baseball knew about the PED problem and did nothing. You're going to point out that Selig is to hardass commissioners what the Maroon 5 is to actual rock bands (I still don't know what "alternative" means as a music genre label, so I'm still living an uncool life). And a bunch of other things, such as how using HGH to heal from injury shouldn't necessarily be illegal, or that there's big difference between what Brian Roberts and Roger Clemens did, even if they both cheated.

On the hand, there are the people whose lots have been thrown in with the crowd that wanted more players cast into eternal damnation for a longer period of time, as the  baseball players have set a terrible example for the Youth of America and everywhere else where MLB baseball is broadcast. Shame on them for cheating, you say, they deserve everything they got and more. Josias Manzanillo deserves a lifetime ban from baseball, cheating hooligan that he is. Andy Pettite's charity work does not excuse him from damnation: he's a terrible human being for using a banned substance. Also, you'll be wanting to make the point that even if "everybody" (it's too bad that "everyone" and "everybody" haven't come forward, because they seem to know everything) knew about the steroids and the HGH and the greenies ("The Mike Cameron Special") and the energy drinks that were rampant among the players in the late '90s and earlier 00's, the players were the ones who did the deed. While the apologists are clearly seeking to throw the blame on anyone but those who committed the crimes, the witchhunters are out for blood. I mean, seriously, look at the black list, you all, and tell me that it could possibly have enough names. No way man, there had to be a bunch of other cheaters who got off scott free. Those inclining to the hunting and burning of witches--who look a lot like scapegoats as start to fall apart--will tell you that the report failed because the list simply was not long enough. Both groups can agree on something important though...that Rafael Palmeiro not being in the report is bogus. Thank god we're all in agreement about something.

Let's talk about us fans, too, because we're definitely one of the guilty parties in all of this. In particular, I'm talking about you "chicks." If you could put your love for "the long ball" on hold, maybe we would never be in this mess to begin with. Seriously, the argument that I can agreement wholeheartedly with is that all of us are partly to blame for loving baseball so much that we turned a willingly blind eye to cheating in baseball. I mean, I certainly think back on 1998 with great regret, folks. Mainly because all of my friends hit middle school and started acting weird, but also because I knew that I should have done something to stop McGwire from doing drugs and Selig and the player's union from being a part of the whole scandal. The 12-year-old version of NHZ has a lot to answer for, folks, just as the 1998 version of yourselves all do. We could have stopped this, and now it all weighs heavily on our consciences.

That may be heaping on an extra helping of the sarcasm, but don't mistake my message here. I don't write my opinions while swearing, gritting my teeth and mumbling the ever-popular hyper-critical blogger mantra of "everybody sucks." Rather, the reason I'm so bothered by the big deal made of the PED investigation and report is because I think it's a great time to be a baseball fan right now, and I am sick and tired of Bob Ley popping up on Outside the Lines and telling me how he's going to spend the next 30 minutes talking to some other ugly people about steroid use in baseball. It's not just Bob Ley, it's how crazy that whole debate is in general. Why is it that in football, Marcus Stroud of the Jacksonville Jaguars does steroids, is suspended for a quarter of the season, comes back, and the general opinion of him hardly waivers? Why aren't there people slavering at the chance to condemn him or absolve him of all blame? Instead of a huge deal, the general reaction seemed to be "Stroud cheated. He should not have done that, and now he's losing four game checks." Compare that with the ridiculous amount of coverage given to Andy Pettite admitting that he used HGH a couple times. I guess what I'm saying here is that I really, really doubt that the steroid suspension has turned a lot of people against Marcus Stroud. Meanwhile, I know at least three people who have denounced all of Pettite's accomplishments as they now consider him nothing but a **ing cheater.

I am absolutely not suggesting that professional athletes--actually, all athletes--should be forgiven of all wrongdoing. I'm just saying that I read that whole darn report and I don't know if there's a single player who I take a different stance on afterwards, and that was a long report. My favorite author just came out with the eleventh book in a series, and the Mitchell Report beat out it's hardback length by over a hundred pages. Am I missing some kind of bell in my head that's supposed to starting ringing when I read a federally commissioned report? It was really unexciting. I don't want anyone to think I'm taking this all lightly, because I don't like the idea of cheating any more than the next guy, it's just this whole PED scandal has been overdramaticized and overblown and overovered by the media and the strong opinions on both sides just make me tired. Non sports-educated people who know me as an obsessed baseball fan come up to me and ask me what I think of the Mitchell Report, sure that I'll love what it's done for the game for one reason or another, and I normally just sigh and break out some abbreviated version of what I might think if I liked any of this PED business, making sure to mention "hypocrisy" and "cheating." Meanwhile, I'm thinking how cool it would be if the person asked be if I think Alex Gordon is  going to develop any patience or if there's any chance Dustin Pedroia can hit in the .320s every year. I'm a baseball fan, really, is the problem. I much prefer discussing baseball to discussing whether Kirk Radomski or Brian Roberts is more of an affront to our lovely, flawless society.

The issues with Clemens and Bonds goes above and beyond the normal cases, though, because of what they were able to accomplish while taking PEDs multiple times. No one is arguing that repeat offenders who build careers--or years and years of success--off multiple instances of breaking clearset rules should not be accordingly punished. This goes for anyone in any facet of life, doesn't it? If they cheated eight times and added six years to their careers, then yes, I can drink the haterade in these cases. I'm sipping from the 20 oz. plastic bottle though, not diving into a swimming pool full of it. I may hate Barry Bonds and Roger Clemens and other repeat offenders, but it's not as if I'm going to go around obsessing over the damage they have done, or watch hour after hour of coverage on The Leader. I'm pretty sure that I good deal of the reason I hate Barry Bonds is because he's a big fat jerk. I'm pretty sure that's true about what I think of Clemens, too, except, being a Red Sox fan, I probably hate Clemens for other reasons. In these high profile cases--Big Mac and Slammin' Sammy and Raffy and Pettite are others--I'm left to wonder exactly what's real and what isn't in more instances than one. Again, let's talk about the upcoming season, please.

Before I read the famous report, I thought Clemens was on steroids. I don't know Josias Manzanillo took steroids.  I didn't know Brian Roberts tried steroids once. I didn't know Jose Guillen took HGH. I didn't know Andy Pettite took HGH. So, if I was an upstanding baseball fan with cast iron ethics, I should hate all four of these guys now that I know they broke the rules, right? Why, and this is a general appeal to the universe, are fans encouraged to think this way about baseball players? If these guys were four football players or four tennis players, they'd be punished for their transgressions and time would pass, people would move on, and in about a year no one would care. Instead, they're now linked a report that allegedly chronicles a "black mark" on our sacred game. Roberts says he "only did it once" and is laughed it, because everyone assumes that's a lie. Pettite apologies and says he was using HGH to return from an injury, and hardly anyone buys that as a legitimate excuse. Well, can anyone blame any of these guys--HGH junkie Paul Byrd included--for wanting to say something to qualify their inclusion on this list, with the way some people are treating this as the Ultimate List Of Horrible Cheaters? Maybe they're telling the truth, maybe not. I'm not going to tell you whether to believe such qualifications, I am going to strongly suggest that people look at more than one angle before judging. Not that I have any reason to believe RRers would have trouble doing so. I will say that I believe Byrd and Pettite and Roberts, and maybe I'm an idiot, but, even if it's very small, there's a chance I'm not an idiot. I'm going to give myself and the cheaters the benefit of the doubt, and see what happens. It's not as if they had to say anything at all.

Going forward, I'm just hoping for a fun end to the Hot Stove season and for Spring Training to start soon so I can go back to having the welcome distraction of "Baseball: The Game" from "Baseball: A Fair And Balanced PED Investigation." I am optimistic for the future of baseball, though I wish someone would tell those moron-er, esteemed politicans in Congress that it's not that important. Pretty much no matter how much time they spend defending the world from the evils of baseball, everyone's still going to form their own opinion on these issues. And you know what? Everyone should.

Spreadsheet Baseball returns next week with baseball, baseball, baseball! This is the absolute last time I cop out and write a PED issues article instead of a stats article. Comments/questions are welcome/encouraged, even if you vehemently disagree with everything I've said. Happy reading.

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Bob Ley...
Its really hard to say who annoys me more these days, the fratish Van Pelt types or the gravitas seeking Ley's of the World Wide Leader.

Honestly, I prefer the female reporters/anchors at ESPN these days... If only, because it seems like there's less room for them to be attention-grabbing because of gender constructs, so they bsaically just read stories like normal human beings.

Linda Cohn is my homegirl.

by Freneau on Jan 8, 2008 5:01 PM EST reply actions  

I actually like Van Pelt
since I think he's a little more no-nonsense that the Stu Scotts of the world. Cohn tries a little too hard to be funny sometimes, I think, but she's better than most.
It's fine to disagree with anything I type, but I'm currently running on energy drinks. Be warned.

by NHZ on Jan 8, 2008 5:29 PM EST up reply actions  

i go back and forth on VP
but basically can't stand Ravech and Reese Davis at this point to save my life

the dude from HI... his weird schtick just kills me

one last gripe: understatement is not clever, its not funny, its lame... seriously, the NFL guys (i'm looking at you Wingo) can't get through a segment without saying something like, "the last I heard, this Brady guy is pretty good" or "it might be a good idea to get LT some touches, he's OK"

for whatever reason, it just grates me

how about some OVERstatement... now that, I would welcome... thats why I loved Kenny Mayne

anyway, they are the winners, they are the one's getting paid, and i'm the lowlife who can't turn away

by Freneau on Jan 8, 2008 5:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Bah,
there's more to winning than getting paid.

Kenny Mayne rules.

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Jan 8, 2008 6:00 PM EST up reply actions  

one other pet peeve
the idea that the "steroid era" cause huge offensive numbers only (which also works because the average BBWAA voter is still a child of the deadball 60s, so inherently loves small-ball, thinks 2-1 is the supreme game, etc) despite the fact that pitcher after pitcher has also been implicated

anyway...

by Freneau on Jan 8, 2008 5:03 PM EST reply actions  

Right.
It's laughable to suggest that the only cheatin' cheaters are position players.
It's fine to disagree with anything I type, but I'm currently running on energy drinks. Be warned.

by NHZ on Jan 8, 2008 5:28 PM EST up reply actions  

I disagree
though this was a great article I disagree that it is a problem.  Yes it was wrong and yes they cheated but I see no harm in what they did.  So they broke records thats what they're their for. I think steroids in baseball is similar to those marijuana clinics in California.  Everyone knows not every one that goes their is genuinely sick but people just look the other way. I do agree that this is not a problem for Congress they have much bigger things to sit around and argue about then do the wrong thing.

by TXroyal on Jan 8, 2008 5:14 PM EST reply actions  

So, it is okay to do anything and
everything...just be sure you win.   Breaking the law and lying about it is okay...because you are a winner and broke records.  That is what records are there for to be broken by a bunch of scumbags, who lie to their own mother just to break another record.

Roger stated that it wasn't about the HOF and he is right.  It is about the money.  If he ever quits taking Roids long enough to retire... it is all about the money in memoriablia, endorsements, and under the table payments.  When he said "it was to clear his name."  I almost coughed up a big wet run.  

I still think Marion Jones lost her Olympic medals and Roger, Barry, and the other losers should lose theirs too.  

But, like NHZ, I just want to talk baseball.  Will JoSo save 40 plus games, will T. rebound to his 2006 level, will Hillfire be better than whats his name?

by grudz69 on Jan 8, 2008 11:52 PM EST up reply actions  

Things worth thinking about
1- The owners allowed this to happen.  They should be held accountable for creating an atmosphere where cheating was acceptable then charged fans more for the privilege of watching a fraud.

2- The reason baseball in the PED-ophile [clever, eh?] Era is a fraud is because baseball sells itself on tradition and the continuity between past and present in its records.  Remember the orgasm of love that was the 1999 All-Star Game?  Mark McGwire named to the All-Century Team?   Looks pretty stupid to me.

3- This is the same reason that the NFL is held to a lower standard: the NFL doesn't sell the past.  It sells action and the action that is happening right now.  Records are not as sacred in the NFL like they are in baseball.  

4- Position players and pitchers both benefited, yes.  That's not the point.  Baseball sacrificed skill for power on both sides of the pitcher-batter battle.  Now baseball is a more a game of strikeouts vs. home runs than ever before.  

There's not much room for a Jamie Moyer or John Tudor or even Greg Maddux to develop just like there's precious little room for a player like Royals HOFer Frank White [a man with a career 85 OPS] who most of us would rightly claim is an offensive stiff if he played today.  

We don't even know what we've lost.  

The owners played us for suckers and once again they are proven right.

. . . a weary nation turns to Gil Meche

by vegasroyals on Jan 9, 2008 10:59 AM EST reply actions  

corrections
Frank White had an 85 OPS+
. . . a weary nation turns to Gil Meche

by vegasroyals on Jan 9, 2008 11:22 AM EST up reply actions  

but Moyer and Maddux are still around
and I think the NL is filled with guys similar to them...

by Freneau on Jan 9, 2008 1:52 PM EST up reply actions  

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