RR Royals #4 Prospect RUNOFF
by doublestix on Oct 21, 2008 12:25 AM EDT
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Print#1 Mike Moustakas, 3B
#2 Eric Hosmer, 1B
#3 Daniel Cortes, RHP
#4 ???
Duffy, Melville, and Kila Monster are all very close. And thus...runoff.
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Daniel Duffy | LHP | 19-years-old | 6-foot-3, 185 pounds
-Four pitch lefty. Fastball 88-93, has been clocked higher in the past. Good curve, good change, both potential to be plus. Still needs to improve fastball command, but made huge strides this year thanks to improved mechanics.
Kila Ka'aihue | 1B | 24-years-old | 6-foot-3, 230 pounds
-Tremendous plate discipline with very good power. Defense at 1B isn't particularly great, but it plays. Charts all of his AB's and strives to get better. Not a great minor league track record. Nearly big league ready if not already there.
Tim Melville | RHP | 18-years-old | 6-foot-5, 205 pounds
-Extremely projectable with present stuff. Already 91-94 with chance for plus curve and change. Scouts love his long term fastball projection, think he could throw very hard.
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I was the first
But not the last! Gooooooooooo Melville!
Waiting for a 90+ win season
by RoyalsFanInMarinerTown on Oct 21, 2008 1:38 AM EDT reply actions
me too, although I am #19 apparently
he seems to have the most potential upside
The concept of progress acts as a protective mechanism to shield us from the terrors of the future. - Collected sayings of Muad'Dib
I like it that Duffy
has actually done something in pro ball. (I actually voted for Rosa before.) What I love most is that the Royals actually have enough decent prospects to make the discussion worthwhile.
Ka'aihue
might be the most likely to contribute at the MLB level of the group, and if the numbers from the last year are real, might have the most upside of the group as well. I like Duffy a lot and I think I’ll like Melville too once he proves he can handle pro competition, but KC needs OBP and slugging so badly right now, it’s hard to vote against the guy that really could fill that hole starting next year. The odd’s aren’t necessarily great that he will, but they’re probably better than Duffy or Melville’s chances of being top of the rotation starters at the MLB level.
Depends on how you rank prospects
KC needs OBP and slugging so badly right now, it’s hard to vote against the guy that really could fill that hole starting next year
I wouldn’t give Kila an edge just because he would fill an immediate need at the bigs while Duffy and Melville are at stronger filled positions.
Duffy or Melville over Bannister or Kila over Gload which one makes the bigger impact on the Royals?
Go Royals!
When other publications begin ranking prospects that way
I will too
by Top Ramen on Oct 21, 2008 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
fair enough
Kila might not bring as much in a trade as the Duffy or Melville, so in that sense, he might not be as valuable of a prospect. On the other hand, he’ll probably be in the majors next year, and the skill set he brings perfectly suited to the team’s needs. I think it’s very fair for Royals fans to consider Ka’aihue the single most exciting prospect in the system for those reasons. Duffy and Melville are 50-50 shots to make the majors. I’ll take the bird in hand, especially when the major league club has precisely a bird/hand shaped hole.
How about this?
Neal Musser has a much better chance of making it to KC next year than Melville, Duffy or any prospect in the low minors. Does that make Musser a better prospect? Does it even make him a top 10 prospect?
Professionals who evaluate prospects (BA, BP, Sickels, etc.) rank them based on tools, performance and how good they are likely to be in the majors. It isn’t about how soon they’ll get to the majors.
This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.
by Scott McKinney on Oct 22, 2008 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions
it partially is...
you have to take in to count (or at least I do) the chances the do make it to the show. the closer the better, obviously. this isn’t really the case with the TOP prospects, like say moustakas or jason heyward (braves) who are still a ways away but have legitimate MVP type upside. but after those guys, ya I do take likelihood to reach the bigs (most of the time that means closer). it’s not a huge factor but it is a factor nonetheless.
Rowdy Hardy Fan Club member.
Got a chance to watch Kila
in Springfield this past year, the guy was very impressive. The AA cards pitched around him like he was Barry Bonds, and when they couldn’t, he just raked
My problem with Kila's breakout year
is that it is the first time he has shown this type of ability. He has always had a good eye but in his previous years we just haven’t seen the impact. I would love it if he were the real deal! I had him at 6.
Melville could be much higher but just hasn’t pitched yet.
Duffy has had two good years in a row – LH starting pitchers are valuable commodity.
Duffy has only pitched 119 innings!
Small sample size alert!!!
Kila’s breakout season is a better sample size then Duffy’s! and its at high minor leauge level.
So why no love for Kila?
Go Royals!
Duffy doesn't have other data which competes with Kila's one good season
Duffy doesn’t have other data which might make his good season look like an aberration. Kila has multiple years of mediocre-to-poor performance. Look at the various years of his professional career. Which of them is not like the other? He was essentially a non-prospect (marginal prospect at best) before 2008. Did he suddenly just figure everything out? It’s possible. But it is also possible that this is something we’ll never see again. I don’t think it was a total fluke. But I also don’t think he magically became a great hitter. I think he’s a pretty good prospect now. But a top 5 in this organization? IMO, no way.
This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.
by Scott McKinney on Oct 22, 2008 12:16 AM EDT up reply actions
yeah, but Kila has like three cool nicknames, how many does Duffy have?
OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG
by Matt Klaassen on Oct 22, 2008 12:26 AM EDT up reply actions
Oh Yeah!
This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.
by Scott McKinney on Oct 22, 2008 12:34 AM EDT up reply actions
In fairness,
I think all of his previous seasons were mediocre – none poor. (I am ignoring the one year that was poor, because by all accounts he played the entire year at less than 100% due to an injured knee, which kills any chance at putting up even mediocre power numbers)
Does that remove all skepticism about his 08 performance? No, but if you ignore that injured year when analyzing him, it makes the argument that he went from a mediocre performer and a marginal prospect to a spectacular performer and a serious prospect much easier to make, and it would align with a prospect who suddenly “got it” seemingly overnight. That doesn’t happen all that often – but it does happen on occasion, and I would argue that true power may be the last tool to develop, and once it develops, it only enhances plate discipline skills because pitchers begin to attack the hitter differently.
Mr Glass, this is a pro sports team, not a retail store - run it like one!
I basically agree with that
And that is why I think he is a real prospect now and deserves to be in the Royals top 10. But I think given the high quality of the Royals top 10 prospects, it is a big stretch to put him in the top 5.
This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.
by Scott McKinney on Oct 22, 2008 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Kila is raking and teh fear is making pitchers just walk him in the Dominican Winter Leauge.
Go Royals!
That's good
Unfortunately, winter league numbers — like spring training numbers — aren’t very instructive for us.
This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.
by Scott McKinney on Oct 22, 2008 6:19 PM EDT up reply actions
well
Kila is pulling away. I get back from class at like 11:30 ct tomorrow, if he’s ahead by 10-15 by then I’ll start the new one.
Rowdy Hardy Fan Club member.
skip class
I thought you loved the Royals…
OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG
by Matt Klaassen on Oct 22, 2008 12:24 AM EDT up reply actions
you know what's overrated?
taking tests.
you know what is even more overrated than that?
studying for them.
that makes me feel bad
i just wrote like 4 pages of notes for my test. blah.
Rowdy Hardy Fan Club member.
Just Close Your
Eyes and use the force.
I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.
by philofthenorth on Oct 22, 2008 6:35 AM EDT up reply actions
you know what's really overrated?
graduating…..stay in school kids
by I need more Esteban on Oct 22, 2008 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions
hence the existence of graduate school
…it’s like a mulligan on college!
I am amazed at how close this is
question now is do you do a second runoff without melville (chance that all the pro melville people would be pro pitcher in general and break for duffy), or just keep this list going and reward Kila with #4, he has won two polls now.
I think we need a poll on whether we show do another poll
i'll "close" the voting at 4 ct
whoever is winning i’ll just put at #4.
i am also a little surprised it’s so close at this point.
Rowdy Hardy Fan Club member.
I think they are all going to be close from here on out
At least until we get to about #10, at which point there will probably be less interest in differentiating between C+ prospects.
This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.
by Scott McKinney on Oct 22, 2008 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions
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