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Remember when Chad Durbin was on the Royals? The 1996 3rd round pick was a proud member of the turn-of-the-century boys in blue (99-02) and is 39th in team history in games started (47).

Apparently he's on the Phillies now. Expect a "Honoring Chad Durbin" post at some point this winter...

Consider this your World Series Game Two Open Thread.

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<A HREF=“http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/OAK/OAK200107280.shtml>July 28, 2001 – 137 pitches
”http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/KCA/KCA200006290.shtml">June 29, 2000 – 132 pitches
June 2 ,2001 – 132 pitches
July 18, 2001 – 123 pitches
June 12, 2001 – 118 pitches
July 22, 2000 – 116 pitches

All before he turned 24.

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by RoyalsRetro on Oct 23, 2008 3:14 PM EDT reply actions  

the summer of '01

just noticed how close all those starts were to one another

damn

by Freneau on Oct 23, 2008 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bwah ha ha ha!!!

I ruin more starting pitchers’ careers by lunch than you could in a whole career!

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by RoyalsRetro on Oct 23, 2008 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Retro beat me to the punch

Durbin should serve forever as a not so gentle reminder of the potential consequences of ignoring pitch counts.

Absolutely criminal.

Mr Glass, this is a pro sports team, not a retail store - run it like one!

by loyal2sdad on Oct 23, 2008 5:41 PM EDT reply actions  

Hopefully, we can

get to root for Matt Stairs at DH tonight?

Mr Glass, this is a pro sports team, not a retail store - run it like one!

by loyal2sdad on Oct 23, 2008 5:45 PM EDT reply actions  

Dobbs at DH

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by doublestix on Oct 23, 2008 6:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I Was

Even young when he broke in as a starter.

I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.

by philofthenorth on Oct 23, 2008 8:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

This must be the "push loyal2sdad's buttons post"

Royals saw Tom Gordon, realized that he had a plus FB and a plus-plus curve, and decided he needed a changeup to become a starter.

As soon as he was gone from KC, another (smarter) team decided, “heh, a plus pitch and a plus-plus pitch? Screw the rotation – this guy looks like a potentially effective starter”

Sigh

Mr Glass, this is a pro sports team, not a retail store - run it like one!

by loyal2sdad on Oct 23, 2008 6:16 PM EDT reply actions  

Oops

obviously, that should redad “…like a potentially effective closer”

(Wondering if devilfingers typing skills are rubbing off on me…)

Mr Glass, this is a pro sports team, not a retail store - run it like one!

by loyal2sdad on Oct 23, 2008 6:17 PM EDT reply actions  

He Was A

Very effective starter when he kept his 90 MPH heat at the knees and on the corners, but who isn’t? His curve was unhittable.

I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.

by philofthenorth on Oct 23, 2008 8:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

We're past that though

right? As a society, we’re past all those 120+ pitch outings on consecutive starts, right?
Poor Mark Prior though…

by Royal from Queens on Oct 23, 2008 7:04 PM EDT reply actions  

Very Impressive SSB

Rendition by Los Lonely Boys; I didn’t know they had that in them. The first time I heard “Heaven” I came in during the guitar solo; it was like I was listening to myself. We definitely listened to a lot of the same stuff when we were learning (particularly Dickie Betts).

I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.

by philofthenorth on Oct 23, 2008 8:19 PM EDT reply actions  

any suggestions for the blog

i’m bored as **** tonight and don’t have class tomorrow.

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by doublestix on Oct 23, 2008 8:29 PM EDT reply actions  

I Never Have

Class.

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by philofthenorth on Oct 23, 2008 8:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

James Is On

Course for a perfect game! Only 26 outs to go!!!!!!!!!!!!

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by philofthenorth on Oct 23, 2008 8:33 PM EDT reply actions  

Longoria Channels Gordon

25 to go.

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by philofthenorth on Oct 23, 2008 8:35 PM EDT reply actions  

1 2 3

History in the making, I tell you.

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by philofthenorth on Oct 23, 2008 8:38 PM EDT reply actions  

BIG GAME JAMES

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by doublestix on Oct 23, 2008 8:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

There Went My

Shot at RR immortality.

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by philofthenorth on Oct 23, 2008 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

What's The Record

Fot the most consecutive posts on this site? Should I go for it?

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by philofthenorth on Oct 23, 2008 8:39 PM EDT reply actions  

No Bunts For

Upton! OK, I lied.

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by philofthenorth on Oct 23, 2008 8:43 PM EDT reply actions  

Could Be 2

Errors on Wuerth.

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by philofthenorth on Oct 23, 2008 8:44 PM EDT reply actions  

Myers Needs To

Leave that curve at the knees on the inner half to Pena; that could go a long way.

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by philofthenorth on Oct 23, 2008 8:47 PM EDT reply actions  

The Productive Outs

Are falling like rain.

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by philofthenorth on Oct 23, 2008 8:48 PM EDT reply actions  

Grit.

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by doublestix on Oct 23, 2008 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just Win, Baby!

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by philofthenorth on Oct 23, 2008 8:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

2-0 Rays! James's

Perfecto is virtually assured.

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by philofthenorth on Oct 23, 2008 8:50 PM EDT reply actions  

sheesh

He got out of that on only 17 pitches. Way to make him work guys.

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by doublestix on Oct 23, 2008 8:50 PM EDT reply actions  

Damn! I Jinxed

Him; or he hung a curve.

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by philofthenorth on Oct 23, 2008 8:53 PM EDT reply actions  

They're Hiding From

Us with all the cool kids.

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by philofthenorth on Oct 23, 2008 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

86 MPH Slider?

Cutter? Not a good pitch, whatever it is.

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by philofthenorth on Oct 23, 2008 8:55 PM EDT reply actions  

Wow, He Missed

So bad it was good.

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by philofthenorth on Oct 23, 2008 8:59 PM EDT reply actions  

The Phils Have

All the best hit balls of this game and nothing to show for it.

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by philofthenorth on Oct 23, 2008 9:01 PM EDT reply actions  

The Rocc Is

Now officially one of my favorite guys.

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by philofthenorth on Oct 23, 2008 9:06 PM EDT reply actions  

Look Out!!!!!!!!! Myers

Can be dangerous.

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by philofthenorth on Oct 23, 2008 9:07 PM EDT reply actions  

Nice Bunt.

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by philofthenorth on Oct 23, 2008 9:08 PM EDT reply actions  

The Whole Fox

Crew are idiots. This pains me, as I liked McCarver as a player. If I could make Zelasko disappear and erase all memory of her, I would.

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by philofthenorth on Oct 23, 2008 9:11 PM EDT reply actions  

yes to this

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by doublestix on Oct 23, 2008 9:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Contest!

Name one person who takes advantage of Bo-Tox more than Jeannie Zelasko!

by Royal from Queens on Oct 23, 2008 9:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Phils Still Making

Good contact with no results.

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by philofthenorth on Oct 23, 2008 9:34 PM EDT reply actions  

NL DH's Suck

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by philofthenorth on Oct 23, 2008 9:36 PM EDT reply actions  

He's just a platoon guy though!

(d’oh)

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by Matt Klaassen on Oct 23, 2008 9:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

top five seasons in batting runs (park and league-adjusted adjusted total offense counting stat from br.com)

Total runs produced above/below league average.

Jose Guillen:

1. 28.2 (2003)
2. 16.7 (2004)
3. 14.2 (2007)
4. 13.1 (2005)
5. -3.2 (2001 [dream season with the Drays])

Matt Stairs:

1. 28.2 (1997)
2. 26.2 (1999)
3. 24.5 (1998)
4. 20.0 (twice, 2002 and 2007)
5. 13.3 (2005, KC)

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by Matt Klaassen on Oct 23, 2008 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Or Bunt

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by philofthenorth on Oct 23, 2008 9:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

safe!!!!!!!!!!

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by buddyball on Oct 23, 2008 9:45 PM EDT reply actions  

Another Potential Big

Inning sacrificed……………literally.

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by philofthenorth on Oct 23, 2008 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

They Absolutely Loved

The back-to-back squeeze plays. I’ll bet it’s the first thing they talk about after the break.

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by philofthenorth on Oct 23, 2008 9:48 PM EDT reply actions  

Another Well-Struck

Ball by the Phils, but this time Utley is up with RISP.

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by philofthenorth on Oct 23, 2008 9:56 PM EDT reply actions  

I think Utley might be pretty good

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by Matt Klaassen on Oct 23, 2008 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

G-Load Would Have

Grounded into a traditional DP; he respects the game.

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by philofthenorth on Oct 23, 2008 9:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'd trade Alberto Callaspo

but I’m afraid he’d beat the shit out of my wife

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by Matt Klaassen on Oct 23, 2008 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

He And Myers

Could swap.

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by philofthenorth on Oct 23, 2008 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

I Don't Believe

What I just saw; the Phils can’t catch a break.

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by philofthenorth on Oct 23, 2008 9:58 PM EDT reply actions  

Upton Missed It

By that much; it’s a game of inches. Go ahead, say it.

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by philofthenorth on Oct 23, 2008 10:01 PM EDT reply actions  

i retired

it’s up to buddyball, NHZ, and everyone else

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by Matt Klaassen on Oct 23, 2008 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't know what you mean...

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by buddyball on Oct 23, 2008 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's What She........................

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by philofthenorth on Oct 23, 2008 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Defensive Strategery At

Work for the Phils.

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by philofthenorth on Oct 23, 2008 10:04 PM EDT reply actions  

The Dying Quail

Strikes again. The Phils hit it too hard most of the time.

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by philofthenorth on Oct 23, 2008 10:20 PM EDT reply actions  

Not Impressed With

Wheeler, but he did OK. However, he’s ba-a-a-a-a-ack.

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by philofthenorth on Oct 23, 2008 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

How could that pitch be called high?

Nararro did’t have to jump (much)

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by buddyball on Oct 23, 2008 10:36 PM EDT reply actions  

yikes - just a bit in front of that

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by buddyball on Oct 23, 2008 10:37 PM EDT reply actions  

take a seat, Mr. Werth

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by buddyball on Oct 23, 2008 10:47 PM EDT reply actions  

I Was Making

Vinigraitte dressing for my endive salad, waiting for my pizza to arrive. Damn, now I have to seek medical help for my 4 hour+ erection. I thought that was normal.

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by philofthenorth on Oct 23, 2008 10:49 PM EDT reply actions  

that must be some salad

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by buddyball on Oct 23, 2008 11:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

It Was A

“See Alice” commercial that gave me the information; the salad had nothing to do with it.

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by philofthenorth on Oct 23, 2008 11:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Price Will Be

A badass. He’s already good.

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by philofthenorth on Oct 23, 2008 10:51 PM EDT reply actions  

I've Still Git

It.

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by philofthenorth on Oct 23, 2008 10:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Git=Got

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by philofthenorth on Oct 23, 2008 10:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

In What World

Would Balfour be a better option than Price against Howard?

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by philofthenorth on Oct 23, 2008 10:53 PM EDT reply actions  

Howard with the 7 out save

nice work. i guess you can do that when you have basically starters in the bullpen.

we need to either train soria to pitch more than one inning or just be a starter.

At least Wally Joyner's not on the team....

by tcon125 on Oct 23, 2008 11:41 PM EDT reply actions  

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