"What If"

• What if Mark Littell had thrown a different pitch to Chris Chambliss?

• What if George Brett didn't have hemorrhoids?

• What if John Schuerholz hadn't traded David Cone for Ed Hearn?

• What if Schuerholz hadn't spent millions on Mark Davis?

• What if the Royals had protected Jeff Conine in the expansion draft rather than David Howard?

• What if they hadn't wasted their first-round draft pick on Colt Griffin?

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What if...?

Rob Neyer hadn’t been fed the empty 1/2 of the glass while growing up?

The Nation at large.

by Royals Nation on Oct 24, 2008 8:45 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

what if...

Rob Neyer actually had SOMETHING in the glass while growing up.

Dear god, I’m ashamed he even calls himself a Royals fan.

Rowdy Hardy Fan Club member.

by doublestix on Oct 24, 2008 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

what did neyer do now?

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by Matt Klaassen on Oct 24, 2008 9:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Just constant, over the top negativity about the Royals. He likes really bold statements about how unrelentingly horrendous everything Royal is. He makes the most negative posters on this site look like pie-in-the-sky optimists. You think the Royals have good pitching? Neyer will tell you that in actuality, it sucks. You think the Royals have some promising young hitters? Neyer will tell you that they are all overrated busts. You think the Royals front office does anything right? Neyer will tell you that it is one of the worst front offices in baseball and they haven’t moved the organization forward a bit. Think the Royals might ever win another World Series? Neyer will set you straight and promise that this organization is cooked…forever.

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Oct 25, 2008 4:42 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

yeah

Neyer shouldn’t write about the Royals, for a similar (if opposite) reason that Gammons shouldn’t write about the Red Sox.

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by Matt Klaassen on Oct 25, 2008 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

to be fair...our pitching did was still pretty terrible this year...

22nd in the league in ERA isnt exactly setting the world on fire.

TPJ...you're dead to me

by billybeingbilly on Oct 26, 2008 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

One shouldn't evaluate pitchers based primarily on ERA

To be fair, the Royals pitching was pretty good when you look at defense independent metrics. The pitching was good. The defense was awful.

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Oct 26, 2008 6:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I had reservations

About posting this since it was Neyer, but it was at least partially interesting. I liked the part where he said the Cards would have won the WS if not for Denkenger expecially

by GoBabies!! on Oct 24, 2008 11:08 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Almost everyone from the 2000 draft

first round sucked except for like Utley

Accidentally not thedude925 anymore. I do hate this new name.

by wildthang on Oct 25, 2008 4:56 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

truth

only other players really worth mentioning are adrian gonzalez (1st overall) and adam wainwright (BRAVES11!1). baldelli too I guess.

Rowdy Hardy Fan Club member.

by doublestix on Oct 25, 2008 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Colt Griffin

In fairness to the Royals, its hard to see who could have been a good pick in 2001 for them. I remember at the time advocating for polished college pitcher Kenny Baugh, and he had a similar fate to Colt’s – injury and then out of baseball before reaching the bigs.

Casey Kotchman and Aaron Heilman are the only two players in the next ten picks after Colt that really amounted to much. Hard to say at the time that the Royals should have taken either of them.

Some “what if” trade rumors I came across in my “Greatest” countdown. We don’t know how close any of these were to fruition.

What if the Royals:

Trade Paul Splittorff and a prospect for Jim Palmer?
Trade Kevin Seitzer and a prospect for Wade Boggs?
Trade Brent Mayne for Kenny Lofton?
Trade Johnny Damon for Eric Gagne?
Trade Jermaine Dye for Alfonso Soriano?
Trade Paul Byrd for Orlando Hudson?
Trade Mike Sweeney for Casey Kotchman?
Trade Carlos Beltran for Kevin Youkilis and Kelly Shoppach?

Relive Royals History at royalsretro.blogspot.com

by RoyalsRetro on Oct 26, 2008 10:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I don't really get

Why Neyer concludes that if the Royals lose in 1985, Schuerholz doesn’t bolt for Atlanta. I skimmed some of Schuerholz’s biography and he claims to have left KC due to a rift between “Avron Fogelman guys” (the minority owner and supposed heir to the team) and “Ewing Kauffman guys”. He was beginning to not enjoy the environment, and when Stan Kasten, President of the Braves asked his advice on who he should hire as GM (to replace Bobby Cox!), Schuerholz proposed himself.

I don’t think 1985 changes that much.

Relive Royals History at royalsretro.blogspot.com

by RoyalsRetro on Oct 26, 2008 10:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs