JoePo Interview
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Joe Posnanski: Best Uncle/Older Brother/Sunday School Teacher ever?
OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG
by devil_fingers on Oct 9, 2008 12:40 PM EDT 0 recs
Agree on strike zone changes
Disagree on replay, although I see his point.
I’m also quite surprised he’s a Gathright fan.
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by RoyalsRetro on Oct 9, 2008 3:02 PM EDT 0 recs
Who is he not a fan of?
OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG
by devil_fingers on
Oct 9, 2008 3:57 PM EDT
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Jay Mariotti, Woody Paige and Tyler Thigpen
We always did feel the same, We just saw it from a different point of view, Tangled up in blue.
-Bob Dylan
by Royal Kingdom on
Oct 9, 2008 4:55 PM EDT
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I'm kind of a Joey Gathright fan too
But before anyone throws anything at me, let me explain what I mean by that. I think speedy small-ball bullshit is fun to watch. From a purely aesthetic/excitement standpoint, I love bunt singles and triples. I love watching a fast CFer cover an acre to get to a flyball.
Of course, what I love more than that is my team winning. And while Slappy Joe is exciting, his brand of baseball makes it harder for the Royals to win. Hitters like Dunn aren’t exciting to me. A bunch of walks and strikeouts mixed in with many fewer HR’s are kind of boring. But that shit wins. So, trade Joey to some other team so I can watch him bunt and run for another team on MLBEI, and get some real run producers on the Royals so I can watch them win.
This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.
by NYRoyal on Oct 9, 2008 5:22 PM EDT 0 recs
I actually agree with this
Maybe a good offseason debate topic would be the rule changes Bill James suggests in the NHA (maybe he does elsewhere, I don’t know), designed to force more contact hitting and basestealing.
Anyway, I think it’s OK to be a fan of a player, even if they suck. As long as “cheering for” and “claiming they are good” are kept at a safe distance. And the truth is that if Gathright was the stud defender that guys like Endy Chavez are, he could be a real asset (cf. Tony Pena, Jr.) if he could OPS even 700 with a 340 OBP or so…
OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG
by devil_fingers on
Oct 9, 2008 5:26 PM EDT
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Gathright: a luxury we can't afford
on a better offensive roster gathright could be a nice late-inning sub and specialist (designated late inning bunter anyone?)
but you can’t give him the amount of PT the royals have without better players around him carrying the load of actually hitting
by royalsreview on
Oct 9, 2008 5:45 PM EDT
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Oh, I agree
I was saying he’d be worth having around if he was a stud defender a la Chavez and could OBP somewhere around league average.
He can’t do either…
OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG
by devil_fingers on
Oct 9, 2008 5:54 PM EDT
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An almost certainly pointless hypothetical
What if the Royals signed someone like Dunn or Burrell, to give the Royals an OF of Guillen, DeJesus, Dunn/Burrell. Would it then make sense to have a cheap, speedy, defensive sub/pinch runner like Gathright?
Back to reality now. Gathright is a tradable commodity. No you won’t get a great prospect back in return, but his speed on the basepaths, ability to put a bunt down and defense would certainly be desired by at least a handful of GM’s. I’m somewhat confident that the Royals could get an undervalued reliever or pitching prospect for him. While I think Moore understands this, I kind of doubt he wants to do this, especially while Gathright is still cheap.
This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.
by NYRoyal on
Oct 9, 2008 5:55 PM EDT
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How about...
…trading Joey for a solid lefty reliever, someone like a J.P. Howell?
by cookierojas73 on
Oct 9, 2008 9:23 PM EDT
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(insert line about how no GM in baseball would be dumb enough to give away J. P. Howell for Joey Freaking Gathright...)
OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG
by devil_fingers on
Oct 9, 2008 9:35 PM EDT
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hindsight.
Looked great at the time from ALL the analysists… I wasn’t a member here but I’m sure there was a following of greatness from that trade for a few months.
Don't forget to send your broken maples to the US Forest Service.
by 306008 on
Oct 9, 2008 11:01 PM EDT
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somehow I feel like Gathright has convinced the royals to move DDJ from CF
and or trade him
I’m not sure why
by royalsreview on
Oct 10, 2008 1:44 PM EDT
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Even after he hardly played the second half of the season?
I might have agreed with you after last season
OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG
by devil_fingers on
Oct 10, 2008 1:51 PM EDT
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Yeah, Hillman didn't treat Gathright like he was in love with him in the second half
That speed-and-defense love went to Mitch Maier.
This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.
by NYRoyal on
Oct 10, 2008 2:01 PM EDT
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If Maier plays his cards right
He has a chance to become a “gritty” guy who plays the game the right way and keeps finding employment in baseball despite a lack of any power or ability to draw walks.
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by RoyalsRetro on
Oct 10, 2008 2:04 PM EDT
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Again
If he’s geuinely a stud defender, he could be useful. I don’t know how much evidence there is either way, at this point.
Including both offense and defense, Justin Inaz’s total player value stats have Gabe Gross was more valuble than any Royals position player other than Aviles or DeJesus this year.
OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG
by devil_fingers on
Oct 10, 2008 2:09 PM EDT
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I don't doubt he can be useful
And I was kinda talking tongue-in-cheek, but I think Maier fits the profile well of a guy that gets overrated because he “plays the game the right way.”
-White? Check.
-Bunts well? Check.
-Hits lots of singles and not much power? Check.
-Doesn’t draw walks? Check.
-Good defense? Check.
-Runs fast for a white guy? Check.
-Used to be a catcher, so therefore he is “cerebral”? Check.
-Attended school in Ohio, the grittiest state in the union? Check.
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by RoyalsRetro on
Oct 10, 2008 3:43 PM EDT
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Hmmm... is Ohio really grittiest?
of all the white ethnicities, I see Italians as being the grittiest, so NY/NJ would rank high…
Also, what about the south?
Mitch does get big grit points for the other stuff you mention. Plus, his generic looks (seriously, could anyone pick him or Pat Burrell out of a lineup) are seriously gritty.
OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG
by devil_fingers on
Oct 10, 2008 3:56 PM EDT
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I have to say that the Rust Belt is the grittiest
Especially Ohio and Pennsylvania (non-Philadelphia). Pittsburgh has so much grit they eat sand for breakfast.
This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.
by NYRoyal on
Oct 10, 2008 4:09 PM EDT
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I haven't figured Maier's EqGRIT
But I do think it would be really high, particularly for a rookie. Typically you have to be well into your 30’s to have significant GRIT. Maier might end up being really grit-special.
This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.
by NYRoyal on
Oct 10, 2008 4:07 PM EDT
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27 year old rookies is super gritty
Looking like a wax dummy also helps
OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG
by devil_fingers on
Oct 10, 2008 4:15 PM EDT
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Potential Best Gameday Picture of 2008
Right up there with RamRod, Happy Gload, and Perennial Contender Alex Gordon
OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG
by devil_fingers on
Oct 10, 2008 4:16 PM EDT
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Well, you could start Maier in CF every game.
Then everytime he hits a single with no one in front of him, pinch run Gathright for him for the steal attempt, with Callaspo in the leadoff spot ready to single him home. Grit central!!!
Go Royals!
by BabyBlues on
Oct 10, 2008 6:16 PM EDT
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Yeah, but
he took a pitch to the face while trying to bunt, which I think in and of itself cancels out the whole “bunts well” thing…
Sarcasmâ„¢. It's the new gravy.
by jonfmorse on
Oct 12, 2008 4:09 AM EDT
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effort, not success, is what matters with grit
OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG
by devil_fingers on
Oct 12, 2008 1:22 PM EDT
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True
Bill James has made this point too. But I like seeing speedy guys on other teams. Not ours.
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by RoyalsRetro on
Oct 10, 2008 10:01 AM EDT
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