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What State Has the Third Most Royals Fans?

Its starting to feel like winter, so I'll throw out an oddball topic for you:

What state has the third most Royals fans?

Kansas and Missouri are easily 1-2 and while Missouri has over three million more residents than the Sunflower State, I reckon that's a pretty tight battle for primacy in terms of raw numbers.

As for number three? I see the contenders as Nebraska, Oklahoma, Iowa and Arkansas.

Nebraska should probably be the favorite, but I contend that 1) the Royals have never fully maximized their presence there 2) the years of horribleness have eroded the fanbase 3) years of cable have severly weakened the secondary markets of teams and 4) the Cubs have made significant inroads. You could probably throw in a #5 too: the all-ecompasing effort required to support the Huskers has always made pro sports weak to begin with in Nebraska.

However, items 2-5 could easily be applied to Iowa, Oklahoma and Arkansas to varying degrees as well.

I'll throw another factor out there: nobody lives in Nebraska.

Seriously, the population of Nebraska is tiny. At 1.7 M people, Kansas outpopulates it by a million. You could take the Kansas side of Metro-KC out of Kansas, and Kansas still wins.

Here are the populations of the states in question: Oklahoma 3.5 M, Iowa 2.9 M, Arkansas 2.8 M, Nebraska 1.7 M.  Oklahoma is not a large state, and it still is twice the size of Nebraska.

So let's speculate, is Nebraska rabid enough to make up the difference?

I'm intrigued by Oklahoma, especially since the Royals are fairly close to Tulsa and have a radio presence there.

Should we maybe consider transplants? Could California be in play? 36 M people live in California. If one out of every 50 people in Nebraska is a Royals fan, that comes out to 35,366 people. If one out of every 1,000 people in California is a Royals fan that comes out to ... 36,457. Lets plant an affiliate in Sierra Madre NOW!

More speculation: I think we can throw Iowa out. The only remotely Royal-strongholds are in western Iowa, which borders Nebraska, and is, shockingly, also empty. The Royals may be the third most popular team in Iowa (Cubs, Cardinals) but I wouldn't even bet on that.... Arkansas is a sleeping giant and is nearly virgin territory, but may not be much of a baseball hotbed... Do many KCers end up in Chicago? Could we consider Illinois?

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What State Has the Third Most Royals Fans?
Nebraska
53 votes
Iowa
2 votes
Oklahoma
8 votes
Arkansas
12 votes
California
10 votes

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Wyoming

Because we so decisively won the Battle for Grass Creek.

Chaim Mattis Keller New York City's # 1 Royals fan!

by cmkeller on Nov 10, 2008 12:16 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

true dat

how could i forget

plus, wyoming’s population is massive

by royalsreview on Nov 10, 2008 12:20 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

maybe Nebraska?

I doubt Arkansas….you get as far south as Springfield and you’re entering Cards territory. But I"m not voting against Wyoming after this year’s victory!

by Fernando Vina School of Linguistics on Nov 10, 2008 12:21 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

I'm telling you

a few more asskickings directed towards the Mariners and Rockies, and the new team names will be the “Louisiana Purchase Royals”

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Nov 10, 2008 12:26 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

nebraska holds on over California in a recount

I wanna know what love is, I want you to show me

by LeoBloom on Nov 10, 2008 12:28 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

doublestix lives in nebraska

and while doublestix knows some royals fans, doublestix also knows a lot of bandwagon POS’s (for you know who). doublestix thinks that if the royals start to win and sir alex gordon becomes a legitimate star, nebraska will be #3.

Rowdy Hardy Fan Club member.

by doublestix on Nov 10, 2008 12:34 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

.275/.370/.490 baby

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Nov 10, 2008 12:49 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

None of the people I know from Oklahoma are Royals fans

…but then again I don’t know many Oklahomans. This website claims it’s mostly Cards:

http://www.onedroohill.com/2008/05/united-countries-of-baseball-revised.html

“-The original map didn’t take into account the Cardinals’ following in Oklahoma. It’s for real, so I added it. A lot of those Oklahomans grew up on KMOX, a station that once carried Cardinals games to much of the Midwest. The Cards are really considered the "team of the Midwest.” I think the original map did a good job of showing that, but decided to give all of Oklahoma to the Rangers, which was wrong."

by Fernando Vina School of Linguistics on Nov 10, 2008 1:03 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Agreed

The only Royals fans I know here are KC transplants like myself.

Royals, NBA, Golden Hurricane, Hawkeyes, Chiefs, and KU basketball, in that order.

by Rowyal on Nov 10, 2008 11:30 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

The Cardinals Were

The only team “west” of the Mississippi until the A’s moved to KC in 1955. That might seem like ancient history to most on this board, but it means the Cards had a huge (and fairly successful) head start on the competition for this region. The Royals were left with little competition for the Plains/Mountain West market for a while, and early success made some inroads into the Midwest markets. Suckitude and baseball/population expansion into the western U.S. has eroded the fan base in the last 20 years; it’s a trend that will not be easy to reverse. Perhaps GMDM and company can at least do something about the suckitude.

I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.

by philofthenorth on Nov 11, 2008 12:17 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I just voted California for home-state pride

Otherwise would have voted for our Grass Creek spoils of Wyoming.

by DarthYoshi on Nov 10, 2008 2:12 AM EST reply actions   1 recs

I'm guessing either...

…NE or IA. Those are traditional strongholds. If I had to pick only one, I’d say NE because of the Cubs’ Des Moines AAA team. – TL

[In 2008] Kila Ka’aihue had the best on-base percentage of any hitter in the minor leagues. - Joe Posnanski, 11/9/2008 ... Ergo, let's give him a shot at first base in 2009.

by timlacy on Nov 10, 2008 10:32 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Aside: Even though there's...

…a large Missouri contingent in Chicago, which could theoretically bring IL into play, most of those MO transplansts here are Cards folks. My empirical evidence are weekly correspondence and monthly interactions with Mizzou alums through the Chicago Chapter of MUAA. So I believe IL won’t make the cut—-even with the sheer population factor on its side. …I reserve the right to be wrong, however, as I’m living proof that KC Royals fans fly their freak flags here. – TL

[In 2008] Kila Ka’aihue had the best on-base percentage of any hitter in the minor leagues. - Joe Posnanski, 11/9/2008 ... Ergo, let's give him a shot at first base in 2009.

by timlacy on Nov 10, 2008 10:35 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I apologize...

…for all the editing errors in the comment above. …To quote Tommy Boy, “Wow, am I an idiot?!” – TL

[In 2008] Kila Ka’aihue had the best on-base percentage of any hitter in the minor leagues. - Joe Posnanski, 11/9/2008 ... Ergo, let's give him a shot at first base in 2009.

by timlacy on Nov 10, 2008 10:39 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

interesting...

it does seem like there’s more of a STL to Chicago pipeline

by royalsreview on Nov 10, 2008 11:56 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

This board

Seems to have a few New Yorkers. But they don’t count because that’s not real America.

Relive Royals History at royalsretro.blogspot.com

by RoyalsRetro on Nov 10, 2008 10:35 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

True dat

Real America has a 70+ MPH speed limit on highways. I’ve seen it with my own eyes…somewhat blurrily, I’ll admit.

Chaim Mattis Keller New York City's # 1 Royals fan!

by cmkeller on Nov 10, 2008 11:58 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Is "Real America" the same...

…as “Patriotic America”? – TL

[In 2008] Kila Ka’aihue had the best on-base percentage of any hitter in the minor leagues. - Joe Posnanski, 11/9/2008 ... Ergo, let's give him a shot at first base in KC in 2009.

by timlacy on Nov 10, 2008 12:25 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

How should transplants be counted?

‘Cause if you as NYers, those people aren’t real NYers anyway…

As an aside, I heard as more or more racist and xenophobic talk in 7 years in NYC than I did in 1.5 years in New Orleans, 16.5 years in Oklahoma, and 5 years in rural Kansas combined. Of course, in NYC it was almost completely from “visible minorities,” so I guess it doesn’t count.

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Nov 10, 2008 10:45 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

"as much or more"

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Nov 10, 2008 10:45 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I've heard Boston is pretty bad

And I believe I saw a study that showed Milwaukee to be the most racist city in the U.S.

St. Louis and KC were not far behind. I think it had to do with de facto segregation in the schools and neighborhoods.

Relive Royals History at royalsretro.blogspot.com

by RoyalsRetro on Nov 10, 2008 11:00 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Boston has a bad rap with atheletes, especially, at least anecdotally

I like Bill Simmons, but he typifies the stereo typical NIMBY New England liberal — loves to call everyone else out (especially anyone who doesn’t love the NBA) as at least implicitly racist, but freaks out whenever someone talks about the long history of racism in Boston.

I’m not trying to judge anyone, and I shouldn’t have brought it up here anyway, so sorry if I stir too much up… I just got going after thinking about the insularity of “real” New Yorkers. I loved the people and the city in general, by the way. Would gladly live there again under the right circumstances.

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Nov 10, 2008 11:10 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

"I'll throw another factor out there: nobody lives in Nebraska."

hey, wait a minute – I live in Nebraska, at least I think I do…

The concept of progress acts as a protective mechanism to shield us from the terrors of the future. - Collected sayings of Muad'Dib

by buddyball on Nov 10, 2008 1:05 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Are You Really

Alive?

I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.

by philofthenorth on Nov 10, 2008 5:32 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

good question

although my daughters are Royal true blue

The concept of progress acts as a protective mechanism to shield us from the terrors of the future. - Collected sayings of Muad'Dib

by buddyball on Nov 10, 2008 8:08 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Nebraska !!!

Soon Sarpy County will overtake Kansas for Royal Fandom

It takes 46 muscles to frown but only 4 to flip 'em the bird.

by kcscoliny on Nov 10, 2008 1:08 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I currently live in Tulsa, Oklahoma

and grew up near wichita. When I wear my royals hat, I am definitely the only one with Royals paraphanalia.

by KCScuba on Nov 10, 2008 2:09 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

What MLB team do...

…Tulsans root for? – TL

[In 2008] Kila Ka’aihue had the best on-base percentage of any hitter in the minor leagues. - Joe Posnanski, 11/9/2008 ... Ergo, let's give him a shot at first base in KC in 2009.

by timlacy on Nov 10, 2008 2:44 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Yikes! I mean...

…I would’ve thought the ’Stros or Texas Rangers if not the Royals or Rockies. – TL

[In 2008] Kila Ka’aihue had the best on-base percentage of any hitter in the minor leagues. - Joe Posnanski, 11/9/2008 ... Ergo, let's give him a shot at first base in KC in 2009.

by timlacy on Nov 10, 2008 3:13 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Oklahoma's weird

some people like the Cowboys, but the weird rivalry with Texas messes things up like that.

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Nov 10, 2008 10:00 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

count one

in the california column.

See people wearing Royals hat’s every so often but I don’t know if its out of fandom so much as it is style. Anytime its backwards is basically a sure sign its definitely not fandom.

Accidentally not thedude925 anymore. I do hate this new name.

by wildthang on Nov 10, 2008 5:01 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

from KS, but now in California...

and i too see lots of people with Royals hats… maybe we’re seeing each other?

But I also see lots of people wearing lots of hats… i think California hosts lots of people from all over… so it may have the 3rd or 4th most fans for a lot of teams.

by CollininCalifornia on Nov 11, 2008 3:18 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Especially LA

no one from L.A is from there, it’s a transplant city.

by I need more Esteban on Nov 12, 2008 9:02 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

also don't forget the huge contingent of

orange county fans that joined the crusade on the heels of Mike Sweeney being a local hero.

Accidentally not thedude925 anymore. I do hate this new name.

by wildthang on Nov 10, 2008 5:02 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

There Are Several

Mark Teahen fans here in Kenai due to his tenure with the Oilers, and they are now Royals fans. That is, until we trade Teahen.

I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.

by philofthenorth on Nov 10, 2008 5:34 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Nebraskan's of a certain age...........

were weaned on the dulcet tones of Fredrick and Dennifer. For reals, Royals am radio games were as much a part of the hardscrabble Summers of my youth as handjobs from the Catholic girls, lukewarm Grain Belt, and detassling. And then Summer limped towards Autumn, and the leaves fell, and we burned them. And it was good.

by Nighthawk at the Diner on Nov 10, 2008 7:37 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

God, I love this..............

It’s like reading Tom McGuane……you Nebraska Wyoming types……

by Steve Hovley on Nov 11, 2008 9:51 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Thank you very much.........

I was shooting for a combination of Jim Harrison, William Kloefkorn, and Omar from The Wire.

by Nighthawk at the Diner on Nov 13, 2008 5:51 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Def not iowa

Iowa is cubs, twins, white sox, royals/brewers. Yes thats right we are tied with the brewers.

I go to Iowa State and know of one Iowa native royals fan that is college aged.

Nebraska has alot more royals fans. For one they are actually on tv there. The royals have had 5 games on tv in iowa since i’ve come to school. (opening day espn my fresh year and then two fox sat games a year)

Hell, I know more kids from omaha who go to ISU that like the royals than native iowan ISUers who like the royals. Say that 5 times fast.

At least Wally Joyner's not on the team....

by tcon125 on Nov 10, 2008 8:09 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

omg just read nighthawk

to quote my friend william joel.
Catholic girls start much too late. hahaha

At least Wally Joyner's not on the team....

by tcon125 on Nov 10, 2008 8:09 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I live in Oklahoma

If you were to keep track of the first 100 baseball cap wearing Oklahomans, this is how it would probably go:

New York Yankees 35
Boston Red Sox 15
Chciago Cubs 10
St. Louis Cardinals 10
Atlanta Braves 8
Texas Rangers 5
LA Dodgers 5
San Francisco Giants 4
Cleveland Indians 4
Houston Astros 2
Philadelphia Phillies 1 (give this a couple months and they’ll be a little further up this list)
Kansas City Royals 1 (just as long as I was one of these 100)

Needless to say, there are a ton of bandwagon fans around here.

by trauty on Nov 11, 2008 3:32 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I don't doubt it

probably true of any area where there isn’t a professional sports franchise “embedded”

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Nov 11, 2008 3:38 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

The Thunder Rolls!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1111111111111111111111

I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.

by philofthenorth on Nov 11, 2008 5:13 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Since When Are

The Thunder an NBA team? I feel sorry for Collison. Garth Brooks being an OSU grad, however, they have a built-in promotional song (except it’s about wife beating).

I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.

by philofthenorth on Nov 11, 2008 8:26 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

What franchise

Is lame enough to have a Garth Brooks song as their unofficial promotional song?

Oh wait….

Relive Royals History at royalsretro.blogspot.com

by RoyalsRetro on Nov 11, 2008 9:31 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I could get behind it

if they had at least called the the team the “Thunderbirds,” a nice Native American-related-but-not-so-much-that it’s offensive name.

Oh well, at least Bill Simmons can now mock and demonize another Middle American town to his hearts content between freaking out the next time some African-American athelete says he’ll never play in Boston…

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Nov 11, 2008 10:29 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I wouldn't be assured that KS is #2...

I went to school & played ball out @ Fort Hays State in the late 90’s. I couldn’t find a Royals fan out there that didn’t come from the KC area. The vast, vast majority of Westen Kansas were Rockies fans…

by GoBabies!! on Nov 12, 2008 2:35 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

on the other hand

even if everyone in Western Kansas was a Rockies fan, that’s at most, what, 945 people?

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Nov 12, 2008 2:42 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Colorado?

Before the Rockies arrived, I would say Colorado. Denver used to have a lot of Royals fans.
Seriously. I have a lot of friends there who still support the Royals.

by Raisethefencesbackto12feet on Nov 13, 2008 7:14 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Probably due to the Naturals

I’ve seen an uptick in Royals gear here in NW Arkansas, but then again, it could just be David Glass zigzagging to the local Little League fields in search of the next Ross Gload.

by RATW on Nov 13, 2008 10:16 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

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