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Election Day Open Thread

Nyroyal3a_tiny by NYRoyal on Comment 404 comments

We're going to try this.  Let's all be polite and respectful of others.  Some of us want one candidate to win.  Some want another.  Some might even want a third guy to win.  Whatever.  Politics can get emotional.  Elections even moreso.  Election Day, triply so.  So let's avoid any nastiness before, during and after the returns come in.  

To spice things up a bit, let's have a prediction contest.  No prize or anything, just for bragging rights. [EDIT - I'll send the winner a free Royals Review T-Shirt]

Popular vote margin (such as: Barr +3.8)

Electoral votes of winning candidate 

Time that the loser begins his concession speech (be sure to include the time zone you're using)

I'll start things off with mine:

Obama +8.2

353

11:52 EST

 

One other thing.  If you haven't voted yet, GO VOTE!

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Yikes... This should be...

…interesting. I’ll see you all when it’s over.

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Nov 4, 2008 10:35 AM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Are you saying it's too early to gloat?

because I’m already feeling confident

cf. my prediction for Banny on some other thread

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Nov 4, 2008 10:51 AM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I know how you feel

I see Barr winning in a landslide, much to my chagrin

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by marbotty on Nov 4, 2008 1:25 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It would be historic

American can finally overcome their deep-seated prejudice against mustaches and vote for the first mustached-President in my generation.

JUSTICE FOR FACIAL HAIR NOW!

Relive Royals History at royalsretro.blogspot.com

by RoyalsRetro on Nov 4, 2008 1:41 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'll go first

Obama +5.8% over McCain

Obama 318 electoral votes McCain 220 electoral votes

McCain concedes at 12:15 am EST (after they wake him up)

Mr Glass, this is a pro sports team, not a retail store - run it like one!

by loyal2sdad on Nov 4, 2008 10:38 AM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Next

Obama +5.2%
Obama 306 electoral votes
11:29 EST

We always did feel the same, We just saw it from a different point of view, Tangled up in blue.
-Bob Dylan

by Royal Kingdom on Nov 4, 2008 10:43 AM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Obama 7% over McCain
               41% over Nader
                320 electoral votes
                10 a.m.est

by bearcatcardfan on Nov 4, 2008 10:46 AM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

All sorts of predictions

Barack Obama 51% John McCain 45%

Barack Obama 352 EVs John McCain 186 EVs

McCain concedes at 10:30 ET

Dems pick up 7 Senate Seats
Dems pick up 20 House Seats

Local stuff for Kansas City:

US House
Nancy Boyda (D) over Lynn Jenkins® (KS-2)
Dennis Moore (D) over Nick Jordan® (KS-3)
Emmanuel Cleaver (D) over Matt Turk® (MO-5)
Sam Graves® over Kay Barnes (D) (MO-6)

US Senate
Pat Roberts® over Jim Slattery (D) (KS)

MO Gov
Jay Nixon (D) over Kenny Hulsof®

MO Lt. Gov
Peter Kinder® over Sam Page (D)

MO AG
Chris Koster (D) over Mike Gibbons®

Prop A (Casino Loss Limit) – Passes

KCMO Light Rail – Passes

JOCO Research Triangle – Passes

JOCO Election of Judges – Fails

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by RoyalsRetro on Nov 4, 2008 11:14 AM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Couldn't that light rail...

…vote have some impact on the ability of KC citizens to attend ballgames? I forget the rail’s proposed track. – TL

by timlacy on Nov 4, 2008 11:20 AM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Its just a starter line for now

It will run from Vivion Road just north of the river to the River Market through downtown and the P&L/Sprint Center to Crown Center/Union Station to the Plaza, then head east along Brush Creek, terminating at 63rd and Bruce Watkins. Eventually, they want that eastern portion to run all the way to the stadiums, possibly even connecting with a commuter rail line to serve Independence/Lee’s Summmit/Blue Springs.

Relive Royals History at royalsretro.blogspot.com

by RoyalsRetro on Nov 4, 2008 11:54 AM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I voted no on the Light rail

I think it WOULD be great, but they needa better plan of execution for me to vote on it.

by GoBabies!! on Nov 4, 2008 5:14 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'm no good at predictions, so I won't try...

However, I’m interested in how everyone’s voting experiences went. I was almost looking forward to a large crowd and long wait. Had a couple of books and today’s paper to get me through it. And when I arrive, the line is 20 people deep, max, and the local news is closing up shop. That was at 7 here in Roeland Park, KS, only an hour after it opened. I’m almost disappointed.

How were the lines and general experiences at other voting locations?

by nkkc on Nov 4, 2008 11:15 AM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I also live in Roeland Park

I don’t expect huge lines here. Obama can’t win, Sen. Roberts can’t lose and the local initiatives aren’t energizing many people.

I’m off to vote now. I’ll let you know how it goes.

Relive Royals History at royalsretro.blogspot.com

by RoyalsRetro on Nov 4, 2008 11:18 AM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

No lines at all

It was a breeze.

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by RoyalsRetro on Nov 4, 2008 11:54 AM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Before 5:00 pm, the lines won't be very long most places

even in battleground states. Most people vote after work. In many states, that leaves a window of only 2-3 hours to vote. So the lines are going to be ungodly long from 5:00 pm on most states.

I have a question. Is there any good reason for elections to be held on a Tuesday? Early voting helps, but if many states are going to have voting on only one day, then why shouldn’t that day be on a weekend?

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Nov 4, 2008 11:23 AM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Ha ha!

You have taxation without representation!!!!

Relive Royals History at royalsretro.blogspot.com

by RoyalsRetro on Nov 4, 2008 11:55 AM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

she

begs to differ

(sort of)

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by marbotty on Nov 4, 2008 1:29 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I think the problem is that some/many don't really want everyone to vote

I think some people feel like only the most intelligent, most energized and most informed should vote. I think some would like to keep it a little difficult for people to vote so that the lumpenproletariat isn’t encouraged to come out in large numbers.

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Nov 4, 2008 11:32 AM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I agree completely

which is a shame. While I wish people voted because they knew the platforms each candidate believed in, who am I to judge why people make the choices they do. It’s their right, which is the point of all of this.

by nkkc on Nov 4, 2008 11:38 AM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It should be on Tuesday

Because that is the day farmers take their goods to market.

< / stuck in 19th century >

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by RoyalsRetro on Nov 4, 2008 11:55 AM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

If I remember right

It was originally set up so that farmers would be able to attend church on Sunday, travel on Monday to the city they voted at, and vote Tuesday.

But I may have mixed that up in the twelve years since I last took American history in high school.

"And a note to self that we must tread carefully if we wish not to give gratuitous offense, and even more carefully if we do wish to give it."
-Stephen Fry

by kishi on Nov 5, 2008 2:02 AM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Can You Imagine

If people had to take 2 days out of their lives to vote now? There’d be maybe 12 votes cast nationwide. I like your signature line. It reminds me of the judge asking the attorney “Are you trying to show your contempt for this court?”, to which the attorney answered “No, your honor, I’m trying to conceal it.”

I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.

by philofthenorth on Nov 5, 2008 9:05 AM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Go out and VOTE

And get free stuff!

Free chicken sandwich at Chick-Fil-A

Free 12 oz coffee at Starbucks

Free Krispy Kreme star donut

Free scoop of ice cream at Ben and Jerry’s

Free pint at McCoy’s pub in Westport

All if you show an “I voted” sticker (participating locations only)

Relive Royals History at royalsretro.blogspot.com

by RoyalsRetro on Nov 4, 2008 11:17 AM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'm looking forward to my...

…free Starbuck’s coffee around 3:45 pm—-a pick-me-up before teaching in the late afternoon. Sigh. – TL

by timlacy on Nov 4, 2008 11:19 AM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

My predictions

1. Obama in the popular vote by +7.5
2. Electoral College count: 338 Obama, 220 McCain
3. A bitter McCain waits 2 hours longer to give a concession speech than he might’ve, going at 11:30 am rather than 9:30.

Additional forecasts:

1. Rain in Brazil
2. Snow in northen Alaska
3. Party for Obama in Chicago
4. Pitty party at the National Review over Rep. ineptitude.
5. Democrats flagged across the nation for “excessive celebration” penalties—-excepting the Clinton household.

- TL

by timlacy on Nov 4, 2008 11:18 AM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'm cheating a bit...

…on my numbers: they’re pretty much straight out of Realclearpolitics.com. I’ve found their site to be quite reliable. – TL

by timlacy on Nov 4, 2008 11:21 AM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

RCP and fivethirtyeight.com

…have probably been the most frequented sites by me for a while.

It also helps that the two sites have a friendly/not-so-friendly rivalry going. :)

by DarthYoshi on Nov 4, 2008 11:28 AM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

we should start one with Royal Corner

I read some of their forums for the first time in the Jacobs aftermath - Good Lord, if it wasn’t for Retro and a couple of others…

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Nov 4, 2008 11:31 AM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i stopped frequenting that joint

after the dude running the site stole one of my ideas and then cut me out of it. well, he didn’t “steal” one of my ideas so much as take up my idea that I suggested to him, and then cut me out of it

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by marbotty on Nov 4, 2008 1:21 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Stole an idea? Cut you out of it?

You mean an MLB franchise in TB was your idea originally?

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Nov 4, 2008 1:27 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i offered to write a daily recap of the minor league results, which he would then send out to his email list

he loved the idea and then did it himself. this was before he joined scout.com

As for the Tampa Bay idea, that’s why I never go golfing with Selig anymore.

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by marbotty on Nov 4, 2008 1:33 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

actually this all sounds catty

he’s a decent guy and writes very well, so more power to him

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by marbotty on Nov 4, 2008 1:35 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Any particular...

…reason why? Just curious. – TL

by timlacy on Nov 4, 2008 11:32 AM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

More complex and in depth analysis and weighting of poll data

RCP just averages polls without weighting them or critically analyzing them. 538 looks into how accurate polls have been in the past to weight them and give a better, more meaningful snapshot of the present and projection for the election.

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Nov 4, 2008 11:35 AM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Okay...

…Sold. It’s funny that your point addresses my exact question after looking over the constituent polls for the average (i.e. Was Pew most accurate in the past? Gallup?). – TL

by timlacy on Nov 4, 2008 11:37 AM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I think 538 said that Gallup and Rasmussen have the best national tracking polls.

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Nov 4, 2008 11:38 AM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'd take all those polls with a grain of salt

Anyway, is Nate Silver watcning the voters everyday? I think he needs to regress to the opinions of an old fart political commentator.

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Nov 4, 2008 11:38 AM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Nate Silver lacks grit

And he should go with his “gut” more.

Relive Royals History at royalsretro.blogspot.com

by RoyalsRetro on Nov 4, 2008 11:56 AM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I only just learned of...

…538 about a week ago. It’s nice that my ignorance proved less harmful in the face of quality competition. – TL

by timlacy on Nov 4, 2008 11:32 AM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

On McCain's speech, I meant...

…11:30 pm rather than 9:30. – TL

by timlacy on Nov 4, 2008 11:31 AM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

So exactly when am I supposed to set my VCR for?

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Nov 4, 2008 11:32 AM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Obama +8.8%

you heard it here first

senate 58/42, franken losing by a hair

by ZeppelinDZ on Nov 4, 2008 11:39 AM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

As the lone optimistic Republican in the country....

I’m going with Obama +1.7% popular vote
McCain wins election 286
Concession speech starts at 1:45 EST – since the Obama folks will have to rush to write one…

by Cleveland on Nov 4, 2008 12:33 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

What's old...

…Rush Limbaugh saying these days? I ask in all seriousness. … BTW: One of the reasons I think Obama will make a good president is because I’m willing to bet money that DOES have a concession speech ready. Love ‘em or hate ’em, he’s been prepared for almost everything—-or at least handles the surprises reasonably well (i.e. Wright, Ayers, etc.). – TL

by timlacy on Nov 4, 2008 12:41 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Rush is probably up to about the same stuff

Michael Moore is: self-congratulation, half-truths, preaching to the choir…

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Nov 4, 2008 12:43 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

...where the best all you can eat buffets are.

We always did feel the same, We just saw it from a different point of view, Tangled up in blue.
-Bob Dylan

by Royal Kingdom on Nov 4, 2008 12:55 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Just listened to him for a bit on my lunch hour

And Yes I want to burn myself for doing. Thanks Nebraska for not airing any radio at least a smidge to the left. Ugh.

Rush was talking about how the Dems are already stealing the election. Don’t believe anything the Drive by media says. This election will last late into the night. Then he started to talk about how much Obama hates jews and how their reign over the western world is coming to an end and just watch all the mideast countries celebrate.

I will now attempt to destroy my ear drums.

It takes 46 muscles to frown but only 4 to flip 'em the bird.

by kcscoliny on Nov 4, 2008 1:29 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Rush Limbaugh and Michael Moore: my favorite political commentators/figureheads::

Jose Guillen and Mike Jacobs: my favorite DMGM acquisitions

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Nov 4, 2008 1:31 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

My Pick

Obama +7.2
348 EV
Concession speech 12:25 AM EST
After having to wait a while on Penn or Ohio.

Proud father of a budding Royals fan.

by Skirra on Nov 4, 2008 12:37 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

people are being obamamistic....

Obama +3.4
296
12:00 just cause.

I refuse to set up a signature....DAMMIT

by RoyalPug on Nov 4, 2008 12:45 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I just had an Obamasm

I just spewed hope all over the place.

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by RoyalsRetro on Nov 4, 2008 1:04 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Wow, my prediction is eerily similar to Pug's

Obama 3.2%
274
I’m guessing 1:05 a.m. EST, unless there’s an option for no concession speech because the Nevada vote count is in question

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by marbotty on Nov 4, 2008 1:18 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Obama 6.5%
338-200 electoral votes
12:30 am EST

It takes 46 muscles to frown but only 4 to flip 'em the bird.

by kcscoliny on Nov 4, 2008 1:33 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

tightening

Popular vote margin (such as: Barr +3.8)

Obama +1

Electoral votes of winning candidate

McCain 274

Time that the loser begins his concession speech (be sure to include the time zone you’re using)

Tomorrow at noon

"So whattya say, should we clean this place up?" - Tom Cruise

by DyeFan187 on Nov 4, 2008 1:44 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'm Watching Fox

News; it’s funny. I think they’re in the “whistling past the graveyard” mode now. Currently, Black Panthers are trying to intimidate voters. Seriously. Martha MacCallum’s facial expressions are very concerned.

I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.

by philofthenorth on Nov 4, 2008 1:56 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Why I think Obama will do better than his polling averages

Real Clear Politics currently has Obama’s national polling average at 7.6%. Many think he’ll end up doing worse than this in the election. I think he’ll do better for the following reasons.

1. Conservative polling models – Every pollster makes sure that their polling sample fits a model of the electorate based on gender, race, age and other factors (some include party ID). Many pollsters are going by the model of recent elections, or a slight alteration thereof. I think the electorate is going to be significantly different this year. As we saw in the primaries, there will be significantly more young people, African Americans, Latinos and new voters. All of these groups skew heavily towards Obama. The pollsters which used a more aggressive model to figure out this year’s electorate came up with numbers much more in favor of Obama. I think those will end up being more accurate.

2. Cell phone effect - Most pollsters do little or no polling of cell phones. They go strictly by land lines. That cuts out many younger voters who have only a cell phone and no land line. The polls which included cell phones in their calling samples came up with numbers much more in favor of Obama.

3. The Bradley Effect – In more recent elections of an African American vs. a Caucasian, there has been no Bradley Effect. I just don’t think it exists. White voters feel no compulsion to lie and say they are voting for the white candidate. I just don’t think there is one clear “socially acceptable response” to this kind of polling question. McCain will get no Bradley Effect bump.

While it is possible or even likely that a majority of undecideds will break for McCain, #1 and #2 will more than counteract that. So I think Obama will do about a percentage point better than his last polling average. Maybe more.

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Nov 4, 2008 2:50 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Isn't 7 points a pretty big margin anyway?

HW Bush beat Dukakis in a landslide, but the popular vote was only about an 8 point spread. Reagan’s landslide in 1980 was only a 9 point spread.

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by RoyalsRetro on Nov 4, 2008 3:24 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

True

And candidates with larger pole leads typically see some erosion in the actual vote. So perhaps I’m wrong.

I did leave out one other thing:

4. Superior ground game – Obama has invested a lot more money and effort into the ground game of field offices, paid field staff and get out the vote. McCain has been short on money and has prioritized TV advertising. So I think Obama is going to do a better job getting out the vote.

I really think this will be Obama by 8 or more. We’ll see.

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Nov 4, 2008 5:01 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Obama +8.5%
Obama 390 Electoral votes
McCain concession at 11:40 p.m. EST

With so many Obama guesses, the lone McCain guess is the equivalent of the $1 The Price Is Right bid. So did we all over bid?

by AxDxMx on Nov 4, 2008 3:05 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

There were no panthers at my polling place

I always think things tend more towards center so Obama 311, +4.5%
The concession speech will be at midnight CST

by KHAZAD on Nov 4, 2008 3:05 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Make it 12:15

I am on my way to Chick fila

by KHAZAD on Nov 4, 2008 3:07 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

+1, Rec'd again

for the self-effacing irony of the last sentence.

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Nov 4, 2008 4:03 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

OK, I'll actually make a prediction

Obama – + 7.6% over McCain
Obama – 52.7%
McCain – 45.1%
Third parties – 2.2%
12:15 a.m. CT (1:15 ET) they call it ; McCain concedes at 11:30 a.m. ET (10:30 a.m. CT)
Obama – 338EV
McCain – 200EV

The Nation at large.

by Royals Nation on Nov 4, 2008 4:15 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I voted in the early afternoon in Harlem

Small polling place, only 3 machines, short lines. I walked by there just a few minutes ago and the line is well out the door already (it is just after 5:00 here). The handful of volunteers there are going to be really overwhelmed.

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Nov 4, 2008 5:03 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I guess I can't go against Rove

I really thought McCain was going to win until about three days ago, a part of me still does.

Obama +3%
EV- Obama 338-200
Concession- 1:30 AM Eastern

by royalsreview on Nov 4, 2008 5:08 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

what's the early news?

I’m “working” at a local library, and can’t bring myself to look

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Nov 4, 2008 5:14 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

the first polls don't close for another hour and 45 minutes

…parts of Indiana and Kentucky will close then. Kentucky will go GOP, but there is an outside shot that McConnell will be ousted from his Senate seat. As for Indiana, I wouldn’t read too much into any of the returns coming in until an hour later, when Lake county closes. If the networks call Indiana for McCain before Lake county’s results come in, that will be pretty bad news for Obama.

by DarthYoshi on Nov 4, 2008 5:17 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

wow... is it really that close?

Nate Silver, what hath thou wrought?

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Nov 4, 2008 5:19 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

My Prediction

Obama +7.3%
Obama 364 Electoral Votes
McCain concedes at 11:36 ET

Gload concedes to Jacobs… in a last minute attempt to keep his spot on the roster

by KCBear on Nov 4, 2008 5:22 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I am very worried that Gload's insinuation

…that Mike Jacobs pals around with Neifi Perez may lead to Gload retaining his roster spot after all.

by DarthYoshi on Nov 4, 2008 5:24 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I heard that DMGM and Trey spent $150,000 on Gload's batting and fielding gloves

to make him look more “starter-ey”

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Nov 4, 2008 5:26 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Was this before or after

Gload said that he could see the visiting dugout from first base and could keep an eye on them in case they reared their heads?

I’m having a ball with these comparisons.

by DarthYoshi on Nov 4, 2008 5:35 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

This Is Where

Alaskans can see Russia. It’s a bustling metropolis.

I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.

by philofthenorth on Nov 4, 2008 7:59 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

mine!

mine mine mine mine mine! (Hi, I’m back from hiding in a hole again!)

Obama +4.3
EC- Obama 329-209
Concession- midnight central

I’M SO GIDDY ABOUT THIS AAAAAAH! MY FIRST ELECTION EVER!!!! L2D and I will be dining at Ye Olde Applebee’s and then watching the election coverage from the basement lair. My elementary education social studies professor has offered up .3 extra credit points for every correctly guessed state’s results, so I will be coloring in a state map as I have done for every previous election that I remember!

Couldn’t help myself, I had to show off my voting sticker :)

Listen to the MUSTN'Ts, child Listen to the DON'Ts Listen to the SHOULDN'Ts, The IMPOSSIBLEs, the WON'Ts Listen to the NEVER HAVEs Then listen close to me-- Anything can happen, child, ANYTHING can be --Shel Silverstein

by loyal2theroyals on Nov 4, 2008 5:22 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

welcome back from the hole

…I wish I got an “I voted” sticker…but I voted by mail instead. le sigh.

Not to sound like an old fogey (since my first election was a whopping four years ago…), but first elections are fun. I felt this great sense of anticipation and importance when I colored in the circle for John Kerry on my first ballot. Then he went and lost. What a jerk.

by DarthYoshi on Nov 4, 2008 5:29 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

do not jinx me

or I will shoot you dead.

I’m sure the old ladies at the park thought I was insane because I had no idea what I was doing. But! I was the 442nd person at my precinct to vote, feels pretty cool if you ask me.

Listen to the MUSTN'Ts, child Listen to the DON'Ts Listen to the SHOULDN'Ts, The IMPOSSIBLEs, the WON'Ts Listen to the NEVER HAVEs Then listen close to me-- Anything can happen, child, ANYTHING can be --Shel Silverstein

by loyal2theroyals on Nov 4, 2008 5:31 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

+1

I always go vote on Election Day, I’m lucky that my spot is never busy.

Honest to god, I got a little emotional afterwards. This is the greatest country on earth, bar none. We are so, so lucky to have what we have.

I voted for McCain, and I am resigned to a sizable loss, but man is this country great, warts and all.

I hereby resign from this post.

by Home Run Tony Cogan on Nov 4, 2008 5:38 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

being in a battleground state in 04 (Iowa) was fun

since i had never experienced that before, for good measure, my girlfriend was an ohio voter

but then I moved to DC…

by royalsreview on Nov 4, 2008 5:40 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

not much going on

there, for sure. I love DC as a city.

I hereby resign from this post.

by Home Run Tony Cogan on Nov 4, 2008 5:42 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Do You Ever

See Tony Kornheiser? He lives in a mixed neighborhood not far from the White House, if I remember right.

I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.

by philofthenorth on Nov 4, 2008 8:02 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Ergh

I wasted my vote on Harry Browne, libertarian!!!! My first vote was like my first time at sex. Awkard, I didn’t know what I was doing and I had to ask an elderly volunteer to help me out.

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by RoyalsRetro on Nov 4, 2008 8:35 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You

had to ask an elderly volunteer to hel you with your first sexual experience?

Kinky

by GoBabies!! on Nov 4, 2008 8:36 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'll play

Obama by 7.9%

Vote total will EXCEED 140 Million voters (previous igh turnout was just over 120M in ’04)

Obama 338
McCain 200

Concession speech given a little more than 1 hour affter the polls close in AZ, at 9:20 Central…

Palin announces her candidacy for president in 2012 during the concession speech, or right after if she isn’t present.

by GoBabies!! on Nov 4, 2008 5:23 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I can only hope she wins that nomination

strategically speaking, although for the sake of some of my friends, I hope not

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Nov 4, 2008 5:24 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

lol

now thats funny.

Just because a chick is hot does not a president make

by GoBabies!! on Nov 4, 2008 5:29 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

true story

I was Sarah Palin for halloween. Accent and all.

Listen to the MUSTN'Ts, child Listen to the DON'Ts Listen to the SHOULDN'Ts, The IMPOSSIBLEs, the WON'Ts Listen to the NEVER HAVEs Then listen close to me-- Anything can happen, child, ANYTHING can be --Shel Silverstein

by loyal2theroyals on Nov 4, 2008 5:33 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

a vote for Barack Obama

is a vote for terrorism. That’s why I’m voting for the maverick! ;D

Listen to the MUSTN'Ts, child Listen to the DON'Ts Listen to the SHOULDN'Ts, The IMPOSSIBLEs, the WON'Ts Listen to the NEVER HAVEs Then listen close to me-- Anything can happen, child, ANYTHING can be --Shel Silverstein

by loyal2theroyals on Nov 4, 2008 5:39 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Ugh

The politics of fear do still work apparently

by GoBabies!! on Nov 4, 2008 5:41 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I actually confused a few people

even though the entire get up was satirical in nature for me, I did have a few people tell me they were voting for McCain, too, so…

Listen to the MUSTN'Ts, child Listen to the DON'Ts Listen to the SHOULDN'Ts, The IMPOSSIBLEs, the WON'Ts Listen to the NEVER HAVEs Then listen close to me-- Anything can happen, child, ANYTHING can be --Shel Silverstein

by loyal2theroyals on Nov 4, 2008 5:42 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Right

because I can’t imagine someone trotting out a “I’ve seen the emails from people in the McCain campaign and they’re all a bunch of racists and homophobes” line… that would never work

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Nov 4, 2008 5:42 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

the fact that Obama is going to win

proves that the politics of cool are also still alive and well. “Wow, Obama’s so cool, I’m going to vote for him”.

I hereby resign from this post.

by Home Run Tony Cogan on Nov 4, 2008 6:06 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It has nothing to do with 'cool'

For me. It was a choice made on the issues.

I DO think the “cool” factor DOES apply to the college aged voter, and that has always/will always be the case (which is why Kerry never stood a chance)

by GoBabies!! on Nov 4, 2008 8:02 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

My choice was also based on

The fact that the Republican party is LOST right now. They are torn between their roots (which I LARGLY agree with), and the religious right. Too many of their decisions are made soley on hanging on to that religious part of the population.

Until they get their own candidate with energy like Obama energized the Democratic party, it will stay that way, and Sarah Palin is NOT that candidate, she is the epitome of what is wrong with that party, pandering to the far right, extreme religious side of the party.

by GoBabies!! on Nov 4, 2008 8:06 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

heyyyyy

hey now. We college aged voters are able to be informed and vote on the issues. I voted for Obama because of his education, Iraq, and women’s rights planks. Thank you very much.

Listen to the MUSTN'Ts, child Listen to the DON'Ts Listen to the SHOULDN'Ts, The IMPOSSIBLEs, the WON'Ts Listen to the NEVER HAVEs Then listen close to me-- Anything can happen, child, ANYTHING can be --Shel Silverstein

by loyal2theroyals on Nov 4, 2008 11:20 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

now wait a minute, GoBabies

just how hot are we talking here? Let’s not rush to judgment…

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Nov 4, 2008 5:37 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Well

Palin is definitely a Milf (soon to be Gilf), but it’s the rest of her that isn’t presidential…

by GoBabies!! on Nov 4, 2008 5:40 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'm In A

No-win situation; if McCain loses, she comes back here.

I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.

by philofthenorth on Nov 4, 2008 8:05 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

At Least I

Can say I did not vote for her. Ever. I really thought Tony Knowles (he’s sort of the Bill Clinton of Alaska, a Democrat who wins) would win again. He served 2 terms, then had to sit out a term because of odd term limits we have here.

I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.

by philofthenorth on Nov 4, 2008 8:16 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

What were her margins of victory? Did she win in a landslide in the past? And when is her term up?

by GoBabies!! on Nov 4, 2008 8:18 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I Had To

Look it up; it was around 48% to 41%. Many who voted for her would not do so again, judging by the zeitgeist up here now.

I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.

by philofthenorth on Nov 4, 2008 8:26 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yea

I remember seeing coverage of some Alaskans right after she was named by McCain (granted, on MSNBC) and they HATED her. THey said she was just a wreck, never compromised, was all out for herself, etc…

Judging by the way she ran the campaign her way, I’d tend to agree with their assesment…

by GoBabies!! on Nov 4, 2008 8:28 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Check These Sites

http://www.andrewhalcro.com/
And Halcro’s a Republican!
http://mudflats.wordpress.com/
This very biased site has gone from beyond obscure to international literally overnight.

I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.

by philofthenorth on Nov 4, 2008 8:32 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

good news for mccain?

supposedly some poll of early voters shows merely a standard Obama lead… not some much larger one

by royalsreview on Nov 4, 2008 5:26 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

C'mon

Silver on why exit polls are BS

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Nov 4, 2008 6:03 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

So why isn't she dead yet?

Listen to the MUSTN'Ts, child Listen to the DON'Ts Listen to the SHOULDN'Ts, The IMPOSSIBLEs, the WON'Ts Listen to the NEVER HAVEs Then listen close to me-- Anything can happen, child, ANYTHING can be --Shel Silverstein

by loyal2theroyals on Nov 4, 2008 5:32 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

because after her campaign commercial mocking McCain...

…she gets a permanent free pass, at least in my book.

by DarthYoshi on Nov 4, 2008 5:33 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Not good enough

indeed, you could make a good argument that cost Obama votes. And you could hardly blame them.

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Nov 4, 2008 5:37 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I early voted lasted week

But I happen to live next door to a Eagles Lodge that holds voting. Just looked outside and it is easily a 2 hour line. Feel sorry for those guys and gals.

by TXroyal on Nov 4, 2008 5:38 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

funny stuff

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Nov 4, 2008 6:20 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I gues that is a state to state law...

At my poling place, the entry driveway was LINED with signs of all races, and their were candidates standing literally outside the doorway (state senate/treasurer type of candidates)

by GoBabies!! on Nov 4, 2008 8:03 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

"signs of all races"

Freudian slip?

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Nov 4, 2008 9:44 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'm still waiting

For Alec Baldwin to live up to his end of the deal and move to Greenland.

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by RoyalsRetro on Nov 4, 2008 8:37 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

what?

I miss all the good stuff…

What’s really funny up here is when predictably American ex-pats get Canadian citizenship and then then Conservatives win… I’m always tempted to ask them what their next destination will be…

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Nov 4, 2008 9:54 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

what, you're canadian?!

This space intentionally left blank.

by marbotty on Nov 5, 2008 2:59 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

oh I am not, eh!

(no, I’m really not, I just live here)

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Nov 5, 2008 3:02 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I expect

your freedom of speech will be far more respected in Dubai. Really.

Sometimes you just gotta roll the potato.

by CentralChamps2009 on Nov 5, 2008 1:03 AM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

CNN

Has some REALLY cool graphics!

by GoBabies!! on Nov 4, 2008 8:10 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Fox Is Funnier

And their graphics are swoopy and have cool sound effects.

I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.

by philofthenorth on Nov 4, 2008 8:18 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I can't ruin tonight

by watching FIX news. I jusr tried, that little Carl somethingorrather bastard already ruined it for me

by GoBabies!! on Nov 4, 2008 8:22 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Schadenfreude. Brit Hume

Has clearly had it with this bullshit; he’s already said he is leaving.

I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.

by philofthenorth on Nov 4, 2008 8:28 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'm tempted to tune into FOX NEWS tonight

Just for schadenfreude.

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by RoyalsRetro on Nov 4, 2008 8:37 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I Have Had

A running gag for the last decade about starting the Nikiski chapter of “Al Sharpton For President”. You must understand there are no black people living out here, and the few that come here are fishing in the summer or working in the oilfield. Thus, knowing my vote for president would be meaningless, I wrote in Al Sharpton/Jesse Jackson. I hope it shows up in the reported totals.

I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.

by philofthenorth on Nov 4, 2008 8:12 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That is still

 More support than Lyndon LaRouche gets.

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by RoyalsRetro on Nov 4, 2008 8:38 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Not Up Here

I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.

by philofthenorth on Nov 4, 2008 8:40 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

indiana

bush won it by like 500,000 votes… not sure obama can make up that difference

by royalsreview on Nov 4, 2008 8:25 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

CNN

Is oulling up county by county votes this year & in ’04…

Consistently, if Bush won by 12, McCain is only up by 5-8 this year. And Obama is up in South bend like 30% over what Bush did…

by GoBabies!! on Nov 4, 2008 8:29 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

st, jo county baby

my former home

58% for Obama… won by Bush in 04

by royalsreview on Nov 4, 2008 9:59 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

McCain supposedly

Did not do himself favors by opposing farm subsidies and ethanol. Plus suburban Chicago is in Indiana

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by RoyalsRetro on Nov 4, 2008 8:39 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Indiana was always a sleeping swing state

its surrounded by either blue or purple states, other than to the south, although there are some significant demographic differences

but yea…

mccain may hold on there though

by royalsreview on Nov 4, 2008 10:00 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Besides Obama

I REALLLY want to see Al Franken win in Minnesota tonight! Not because i particularily agree with his views, but because he wony be afraid to shake things up

by GoBabies!! on Nov 4, 2008 8:31 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

He's A Better

Writer than performer.

I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.

by philofthenorth on Nov 4, 2008 8:38 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

He is

Good enough, smart enough, and gosh darn it, people like him.

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by RoyalsRetro on Nov 4, 2008 8:38 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Liked him

before he thought “liked to hear his comedy” meant I would like to hear him talk about anything substantive.

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Nov 4, 2008 9:45 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Seriously though

The kentucky race is really close and if Franken does win, that could be very interesting for the senate

by KCBear on Nov 4, 2008 8:39 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

McConnell is the Senate Majority Leader

If he gets knocked off, it will be interesting to see what Republican assumes power.

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by RoyalsRetro on Nov 4, 2008 8:41 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

D'oh

Senate Minority Leader.

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by RoyalsRetro on Nov 4, 2008 8:41 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It's easy to forget

that Republicans have minorities

by KCBear on Nov 4, 2008 8:42 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Whatchoo Talkin' Bout,

Willis?

I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.

by philofthenorth on Nov 4, 2008 8:45 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

sorry

that was a lame and perhaps slightly offensive attempt at a joke

by KCBear on Nov 4, 2008 8:45 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Did You Watch

The convention?

I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.

by philofthenorth on Nov 4, 2008 8:46 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I was going to say

“You mean more than the ones they own”

but I opted against it

(mine too was in jest)

by GoBabies!! on Nov 4, 2008 8:47 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Actually, Thanks In

Large part to Republicans, that is no longer legal.

I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.

by philofthenorth on Nov 4, 2008 8:48 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yes

thats why it was in jest

by GoBabies!! on Nov 4, 2008 8:51 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

very interesting

I’ve got $$ on Brownback of KS being a player (If the republican party decides to continue down the path of pandering to the far right, religious population). Not sure who they’ll turn to if they choose (the smarter) more neutral stance…

by GoBabies!! on Nov 4, 2008 8:42 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Supposedly

He is running for Gov, which will launch him to another Presidential run. Heaven help us.

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by RoyalsRetro on Nov 4, 2008 8:49 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It Cracks Me

Up that they make such a big deal about “Red” and “Blue” states. Clearly, there is a huge minority opinion in the most lopsided state voting margins.

I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.

by philofthenorth on Nov 4, 2008 8:39 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

THANK YOU

That always pisses me off. People at like we’re huge monoliths. Every Kansan is a McCain supporter. Well I live in Kansas, and I’m looking down my street and I see nothing but Obama signs.

Even in a blow out, 30-40% of us vote for the loser.

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by RoyalsRetro on Nov 4, 2008 8:40 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I Grew Up

In Wyandotte County, which I believe is the only Democratic majority county in Kansas. By the way, can you say “Sibelius”?

I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.

by philofthenorth on Nov 4, 2008 8:43 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I me Sibelius this year

@ a fundraiser at Johnson County Comm. Coll. It was really kind of cool, I’d never seen a politician give a speech in person. It was impressive, because it wasn’t a large event, there were like 100 people there, so you know she couldn’t have devoted too much time to it, and she had a flawless 15 miutes speech.

by GoBabies!! on Nov 4, 2008 8:46 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

ugh “met”, sry, I’m typing on my laptop in the dark, so expect lots of typos from me this eve

by GoBabies!! on Nov 4, 2008 8:48 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Or that two of our four US Reps are Dems

Although that could change tonight (I have a sinking feeling Dennis Moore is going down, he ran a terrible campaign)

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by RoyalsRetro on Nov 4, 2008 8:49 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yea

KS is definitely turning (gradually) a lighter shade of blue. Having a D in the Gov mansion is an obvious sign of that

by GoBabies!! on Nov 4, 2008 8:50 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

particularly hilarious given the meaning of "red" in not-so-recent American history

of course, we all know that was mindless paranoia. Unless you read any historians who specialize in the archives…

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Nov 4, 2008 9:47 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

If you are watching CNN

The map that the McCain camp is showing to their supporters has NOTHING colored blue yet. The only states that they have announced as being ‘called’ to the crowd are red.

Whereas the Obama Rally is showing live feeds of CNN, you know, an accurate depiction of what is happening.

THAT is the difference right now in the 2 parties/candidates.

by GoBabies!! on Nov 4, 2008 8:44 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I see noting wrong with what McCain is doing.

If the map starts to look all blue it will discourage people around there from voting because they might think the election went one way or the other. I don’t understand how they call them anyways with only 30% in and one person up by like 5%.

Go McCain

by TXroyal on Nov 4, 2008 8:51 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

where do you live in Texas?

I’m in my last year at Baylor in Waco right now

by KCBear on Nov 4, 2008 8:52 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

New Braunfels

just north of San Antonio

by TXroyal on Nov 4, 2008 8:53 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Good fishing there?

I was down @ Lake Fork for the Skeeter owners tourney in June. I want to move to TX just for the fishing!!! We caught 20+ 5-7# fish in 4 days

by GoBabies!! on Nov 4, 2008 8:54 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'm one of the few kids at Baylor that support Obama

My Obama shirt got me more than a couple dirty looks today. I guess that’s what I get for going to a Baptist school. At least you don’t have to worry about Texas not being in the bag for McCain

by KCBear on Nov 4, 2008 8:55 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Have You Seen

“Letter From Waco”? It’s a documentary, but I was riveted. It’s a former resident coming back and noticing all the bizarre aspects of Waco he took for granted growing up there.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0206885/

I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.

by philofthenorth on Nov 4, 2008 9:00 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i haven't seen it

but there are certainly plenty of bizarre aspects of this town

by KCBear on Nov 4, 2008 9:13 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Here's A Link

To the trailer:
http://www.realfilms.org/oldfilms/0504.html

I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.

by philofthenorth on Nov 4, 2008 9:25 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

But

It isn’t ‘voters’ its the people that have gathered at his rally.

by GoBabies!! on Nov 4, 2008 8:52 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I always find the the side that projects the most objective view reality

tends to be the side I support. Funny how that works out.

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Nov 4, 2008 9:48 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

An Objective View

Of reality is almost entirely subjective.

I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.

by philofthenorth on Nov 4, 2008 9:54 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Hume Is Down

To laughing incoherently while reporting the “good news for Obama”.

I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.

by philofthenorth on Nov 4, 2008 9:03 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It is going to be VERY Important

For whichever candidate that loses to reassure the general population in their consolation speech. Especially if McCain is the on that gives a concession speech.

His campaign was very devisive on all fronts. His base is absolutely terrified of Obama. Either they think he is a Socialist, a terrorist, going to raise their taxes, gas the jews, or any number of other things that his campaign (directly or indirectly) has thrown at Obama over the last 6 months +.

Obama also ran a tough campaign, but he was attacking McCains policies, not his motives as the McCain camp did, so Obama wouldn’t have to be so ‘forgiving’ should he lose, but it would still be important for him to assure the general population that McCain isn’t the devil.

If McCain DOES NOT take some role of reassurance it will be tragic for the country. Whether you agree with his politics or not is irrevelent, the country needs to be reassured that Obama is an AMERICAN. He is a PATRIOT. AHe isn’t going to run a dictatorship, or piss on the constitution (as the current republican president did).

as of last week 30 % of Texans STILL thought that Obama was a Muslim!!!!!!!!! (I trust that TXRoyal wasn’t one of them). That is the sort of devisiveness that McCain is, in my opinion, COMPELLED to try to eleviate to a degree at the outset. I’m not saying that McCain need to hold his hand for an extended period of time, but it needs to be adressed at some point IMO…

by GoBabies!! on Nov 4, 2008 9:14 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It doesn't need to be extended at all...

Something like…

McCain – “My friends. Over the last 6 months, Senator Obama and I engaged in a spirited and sometimes bitter campaign because we both felt like our plan for the next 4 years of this country were best. While I may not agree with his politics, I can assure you, my fellow Americans, Barack Obama has the best intentions towards the United States, and ask those of you that voted for me to give him a chance to lead this country in the direction that was voted on.”

by GoBabies!! on Nov 4, 2008 9:19 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Would it completely crazy

If Obama appointed McCain to be a part of his campaign?

Just like West Wing, which this election has copied quite a bit from (young, unknown racial minority Democrat defeats much older moderate Republican who appoints an evangelical as his running mate)

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by RoyalsRetro on Nov 4, 2008 9:34 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Part of his campaign?

Part of his cabinet I meant. Secretary of Being Old or something like that.

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by RoyalsRetro on Nov 4, 2008 9:35 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Secretary of Maverick

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by RoyalsRetro on Nov 4, 2008 9:35 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I think it is...

POSSIBLE, but unlikely.

I would expect Obama to reach across the aisle in some way. The Senator from Nebraska (Bayh or something like that I think) that he was considering for VP would be a distinct possibility…

by GoBabies!! on Nov 4, 2008 10:03 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Chuck Hagel

I think is a strong possibility for Sec of Defense. His wife openly endorsed Obama, and he wouldn’t publicly endorse either but I would guess he voted Obama, he has been awfully complimentary of Obama.

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by RoyalsRetro on Nov 4, 2008 10:05 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Evan Bayh

Is what name I had in my head, but Hagel is correct, and yes, I think he would make a GREAT SECDEF

Bayh is a D senator from Indiana

by GoBabies!! on Nov 4, 2008 10:07 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Secretary in Charge of Partying Down

Coreeeyyy!

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Nov 4, 2008 9:51 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Candidates always sound the best giving concessions speeches

John Kerry actually sounded like a real boy in 2004.

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Nov 4, 2008 9:53 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

And they get funnier too

Al Gore and Bob Dole both seemed like much more likeable guys after losing. McCain actually showed a sense of humor last week on SNL, but that may have been him coming to terms with losing.

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by RoyalsRetro on Nov 4, 2008 10:04 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

McCain and Dole actually share a lot of similarities... some more positive than others

I never got the impression Dole was al that excited about running for president. More like one last hurrah.

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Nov 4, 2008 10:15 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Que McCain Viagra ad in 3...2....

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by RoyalsRetro on Nov 4, 2008 10:17 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

My Dislike Of

Dole is personal; he mis-represented the facts about a friend of mine’s father (Bill Roy) to keep his Senate seat in ’76.

I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.

by philofthenorth on Nov 4, 2008 10:18 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Finally... someone with a good reason to dislike a candidate

Hey, I know “they all do it,” but it’s different when it’s someone you have a personal connection with on the receiving end, so that’s one of the few pieces of “anger” in these discussions that doesn’t make me roll my eyes

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Nov 4, 2008 10:19 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I can agree with that sentiment...

I bartended during the ’04 election. A guy that was a regular served in ’Nam with Kerry. He FUCKING HATED John Kerry,and would go on & on about how he wronged a bunch of his comrades during & after the war…

by GoBabies!! on Nov 4, 2008 10:20 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

that's no fun to hear

just thought Kerry didn’t do right by his former fellow soldiers?

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Nov 4, 2008 10:25 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Bill Roy!

I’ve met his son, the one that heads the JoCo Dem Party. Good man.

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by RoyalsRetro on Nov 4, 2008 10:24 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I Went To

School with his daughter; she was very smart and funny as hell.

I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.

by philofthenorth on Nov 5, 2008 9:13 AM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Hume Sounded Like

He was announcing the death of a statesman when he called Ohio for Obama. No Republican president has ever lost Ohio.

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by philofthenorth on Nov 4, 2008 9:20 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

This Just In

Chris Matthews is a blithering idiot. I Have MSNBC on downstairs and Fox upstairs. It’s 20F outside, I’m wearing shorts and Adidas and starting a fire in the grill on my porch for my election night T-Bone and steamed cauliflower, so I’m up and down the stairs frequently.

I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.

by philofthenorth on Nov 4, 2008 9:52 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Did you know

There are rumors he may run for Senate in PA? Ugh!

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by RoyalsRetro on Nov 4, 2008 10:03 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Which Party?

I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.

by philofthenorth on Nov 4, 2008 10:04 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

He hasn't said

But I think it has become pretty obvious over his coverage of the campaign that he leans to the left.

That being said, BEFORE the campaign, I really couldn’t tell which side he was on. He stayed pretty objective…

by GoBabies!! on Nov 4, 2008 10:06 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yea, Dems

He worked for Dem Lion Tip O’Neill. He’d be a moderate though, and old school Dem type who hopefully will get thumped in the primaries.

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by RoyalsRetro on Nov 4, 2008 10:07 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'm An Old-School

Democrat. The current base of my party doesn’t want to hear what I have to say very much. At this point I’m more anti-Republican.

I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.

by philofthenorth on Nov 4, 2008 10:13 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Well I meant

He’d get thumped because he’s stupid, not because he’s an old school Dem. There are lots of old school Dems in the rust belt.

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by RoyalsRetro on Nov 4, 2008 10:17 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Unions NOW!

(NOW=1931)

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Nov 4, 2008 10:18 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I don't think he is stupid

But i think he is bad on TV. He comes across waaaay too much like he is winging it all the time.

by GoBabies!! on Nov 4, 2008 10:18 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

No, He's Stupid

Olbermann can barely tolerate him.

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by philofthenorth on Nov 4, 2008 10:20 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I can

agree to disagree on this…

BTW, did you see Ben Affleck doing Olberman on SNL? Best SNL Sketch in YEARS (that didnt involve Sarah palin),

by GoBabies!! on Nov 4, 2008 10:21 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

hmmm...

don’t watch much TV “news,” so I don’t know much about Matthews. Heard he’s an ass from a journalist friend.

HOWEVER… Olbermann is also a pompous jackass who has now displayed his ignorance of both sports and politics… tough call: stupid blowhard versus pompous, Rebecca Lobo-stalking jackass

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Nov 4, 2008 10:24 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I want to know

Which way did Battle Creek, WY vote? Royals or Mariners?

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by RoyalsRetro on Nov 4, 2008 10:08 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Teal and blue baby.

Yesterday's Pants
A blog-thingy about the Mariners and stuff.

by BrettJMiller on Nov 5, 2008 11:47 AM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

CNN on the McCain HQ

“Supporters are intentionally not being told the results of Ohio.”

Yea, that pretty much sums up today’s GOP.

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by RoyalsRetro on Nov 4, 2008 10:07 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Exactly

I posted this about an hour or so ago…If you are watching CNN
The map that the McCain camp is showing to their supporters has NOTHING colored blue yet. The only states that they have announced as being ‘called’ to the crowd are red.

Whereas the Obama Rally is showing live feeds of CNN, you know, an accurate depiction of what is happening.

THAT is the difference right now in the 2 parties/candidates.

by GoBabies!! on Nov 4, 2008 10:09 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

one is winning, one is losing?

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Nov 4, 2008 10:16 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

that's a progressive thought!

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Nov 5, 2008 10:42 AM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Harold Ford Jr.

Is talking on MSNBC right now, he is the next big star of the Democratic party, you heard it here first…I saw him on Bill Maher last season, that guy is WICKED SMAHT

by GoBabies!! on Nov 4, 2008 10:39 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

yup, because being smart = big future in politics

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by devil_fingers on Nov 4, 2008 10:41 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Oh I'm sorry

He’s Smart, handsome & cool.

by GoBabies!! on Nov 4, 2008 10:42 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

And smart does = something afterall

I mean Obama was #1 in his class @ Harvard law

by GoBabies!! on Nov 4, 2008 10:43 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Exceptions prove the rule!

Kerry, Dukakis, Mondale, all also smart… President Peirce, also smart (set stage for War between the States)…

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Nov 4, 2008 10:45 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'd prefer voting for a smart guy

as opposed to maintaing a retard in office

by GoBabies!! on Nov 4, 2008 10:46 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

who's that?

the guy who scored higher than John Kerry on all the comparable standardized tests they took in the military?

Obama’s is “smart.” For better or worse, however, that has little (at most) to do with his apparent victory tonight. Nominating “smart guys” and/or thinking that is a prime ingredient to being a good president in this day and age is a nice thought, but reveals the (sadly unsurprising) naivety, ignorance of managerial state and place of the president within it, and contradictory self-righteousness of so many of my peers.

If I was say, one of Sarah Palin’s fan, I might say that such a person is a “retard.” But I’m not a fan of hers, and find such language offensive.

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Nov 4, 2008 10:53 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

you

are portraying the role of victim now? Saying you are offended, when 90% of your posts have been sarcastic or condescending (as 90% of all your posts are).

Really?

by GoBabies!! on Nov 4, 2008 10:57 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

And

I find it comical that you think it Naive to want a Smart president.

by GoBabies!! on Nov 4, 2008 11:00 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I apologize for my condescending tone

that’s fair enough

“A splinter in the eye is the best magnifying glass.”

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Nov 4, 2008 11:03 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

No Problem

We’ve gone back & forth before, and surely will again

by GoBabies!! on Nov 4, 2008 11:04 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That's alright...

maybe go back and read my post more objectively later, though. I’m not saying it’s naive to want a smart president, everyone does. Thinking that it’s essential is, unfortunatley, a bit naive, I think. Thinking it makes a good candidate is more than a bit naive.

I guess I should be more straightforward about “retard”: let’s just say I’m not offended on behalf of your target…

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Nov 4, 2008 11:12 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'm mixed on him

His family is a scandal plagued political machine and he’s very much a moderate, abandoning the Dems at key times. We’ll see, he certainly is smart.

I think Montana Gov Brian Schweitzer is the next star of the Dem Party. His DNC speech was awesome. Wouldn’t be surprised if he replaces Biden as the VP nominee in 2012.

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by RoyalsRetro on Nov 4, 2008 10:43 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I didn't

see his speech, I’ll have to look for it on youtube…

by GoBabies!! on Nov 4, 2008 10:45 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

If Biden survives that long

or manages to last that long without swiping a speech last minute off the internet

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Nov 4, 2008 10:46 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Can you imagine

Being an African Amerian of 60 years of age or more and seeing an African American elected president!?!?!?!?!?! They would have gon from seeing race riots, seperate drinking fountains and everything else, to this. The sense of joy/disbelief must be overwhelming.

Truly amazing, and a testiment to America.

by GoBabies!! on Nov 4, 2008 11:06 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs