40 Man Roster

by GoBabies!! on Nov 6, 2008 1:40 PM EST

So, I just started looking @ the 40 man roster, and some space has to be made in a couple of weeks...They have to drop at lest 4 from the current 40 man roster next week....Maybe more if the elevate anyone to protect them from Rule 5 draft, or sign/trade for more players

Who do you think is going to be cut/demoted/however you want to phrase it?

I think you could easily trim...Ryan Braun, Jeff Fulchino, Yimmy Yobble, Grudz (Assuming he isn't offered), Jason Smith, Tony Pena Jr. without losing much talent off the MLB roster...If it were me, I'd trim Smith, Fulchino, Grudz & Pena...I THINK, they'll trim Smith, Braun, Grudz & Gobble...

Any thoughts?

49 John Bale	L/L	6-4	220	05/22/74
19 Brian Bannister	R/R	6-2	210	02/28/81
** -- Ryan Braun	R/R	6-1	220	07/29/80	60-day Disabled List
-- Jairo Cuevas	R/R	6-2	215	01/24/84
28 Kyle Davies	R/R	6-2	205	09/09/83
31 Brandon Duckworth	R/R	6-1	215	01/23/76
54 Jeff Fulchino	R/R	6-5	250	11/26/79
41 Jimmy Gobble	L/L	6-3	200	07/19/81
23 Zack Greinke	R/R	6-2	185	10/21/83
** 44 Luke Hochevar	R/R	6-5	205	09/15/83	60-day Disabled List
** 34 Luke Hudson	R/R	6-3	205	05/02/77	60-day Disabled List
52 Devon Lowery	L/R	6-1	195	03/24/83
37 Tyler Lumsden	L/L	6-4	215	05/09/83
32 Ron Mahay	L/L	6-2	190	06/28/71
55 Gil Meche	R/R	6-3	220	09/08/78
58 Neal Musser	L/L	6-1	235	08/25/80
63 Josh Newman	L/L	6-1	200	06/11/82
57 Joel Peralta	R/R	5-11	190	03/23/76
-- Julio Cesar Pimentel	R/R	6-1	190	12/14/85
56 Ramon Ramirez	R/R	5-11	190	08/31/81
** 53 Carlos Rosa	R/R	6-1	185	09/21/84	60-day Disabled List
48 Joakim Soria	R/R	6-3	185	05/18/84
51 Robinson Tejeda	R/R	6-3	230	03/24/82
Catchers	B/T	Ht	Wt	DOB
14 John Buck	R/R	6-3	220	07/07/80
21 Miguel Olivo	R/R	6-0	220	07/15/78
-- Brayan Pena	S/R	5-11	210	01/07/82
Infielders	B/T	Ht	Wt	DOB
30 Mike Aviles	R/R	5-9	195	03/13/81
13 Alberto Callaspo	S/R	5-9	180	04/19/83
3 Esteban German	R/R	5-9	195	01/26/78
7 Ross Gload	L/L	6-1	190	04/05/76
4 Alex Gordon	L/R	6-1	220	02/10/84
15 Mark Grudzielanek	R/R	6-1	200	06/30/70
-- Mike Jacobs	L/R	6-3	215	10/30/80
25 Kila Ka'aihue	L/R	6-3	230	03/29/84
39 Mario Lisson	R/R	6-2	210	05/31/84
1 Tony Pena	R/R	6-2	180	03/23/81
43 Ryan Shealy	R/R	6-5	240	08/29/79
26 Jason Smith	L/R	6-3	200	07/24/77
Outfielders	B/T	Ht	Wt	DOB
** 45 Shane Costa	L/R	6-0	190	12/12/81	60-day Disabled List
9 David DeJesus	L/L	6-0	190	12/20/79
2 Joey Gathright	L/R	5-10	185	04/27/81
11 Jose Guillen	R/R	6-0	210	05/17/76
35 Mitch Maier	L/R	6-2	205	06/30/82
24 Mark Teahen	L/R	6-3	210	09/06/81
Designated Hitters	B/T	Ht	Wt	DOB
16 Billy Butler	R/R	6-1	240	04/18/86

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Oops

I forgot about Hudson. He could well get the axe also…

by GoBabies!! on Nov 6, 2008 1:42 PM EST 0 recs

Guys to add:

From the Star:

Players previously identified by club officials as likely to be considered for protection: RHP Juan Abreu, RHP Greg Atencio, RHP Henry Barrera, OF José Duarte, LHP Dusty Hughes, RHP Blake Johnson, OF Chris Lubanski, SS Chris McConnell, OF Brian McFall, RHP Chris Nicoll and RHP Mario Santiago.

I’d probably add Johnson and Nicoll. Maybe Santiago and Atencio if there is room?

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by RoyalsRetro on Nov 6, 2008 2:03 PM EST 0 recs

I don't think we have any 40-man issues.

Pitchers: Fulchino, Duckworth, Hudson, Newman, possibly Peralta,
Position Guys: Grudz, Smith, Pena Jr, Gload, Gathright (yeah, I think it’s time), Costa

That’s 11 guys we could mostly find equvalent replacements for (Grudz is an exception but he shouldn’t be coming back).

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by KC Chris on Nov 6, 2008 2:08 PM EST 0 recs

I'd add Lisson to that

I don’t see him getting selected in the Rule 5.

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by RoyalsRetro on Nov 6, 2008 2:18 PM EST up 0 recs

Duckworth and Lumsden?

Are we scarred to lose those guys? I could see them offering Ducky a minor league deal, but if he left, I wouldn’t be devastated. We’re almost going to have to try dumping Gload, aren’t we?

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by royaldaddy on Nov 6, 2008 2:08 PM EST 0 recs

yes on Gload

Duckworth is nice, but minor league deal should do it. Lumsden, Moore might want to hang on to the fact that he traded for him and he was supposed to be good? I wouldn’t be upset losing him.

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by KC Chris on Nov 6, 2008 2:10 PM EST up 0 recs

I'd cut

Fulchino
Hudson
TJ
Perralta
Fulchino (did I put him on there twice?)
Bale (try to get a cheaper contract with him than the $2.2 they were talking about)
Lisson?
Costa?
Braun?

Keep Ducky and Lumsden. Keep Newman (he could become a cheap bullpen LHP)

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by 306008 on Nov 6, 2008 2:10 PM EST 0 recs

Peralta might be a good idea for a minor league deal

he had a terrible year, but was decent in ’07. Low-risk

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Nov 6, 2008 2:12 PM EST up 0 recs

yes. Milb

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by 306008 on Nov 6, 2008 2:19 PM EST up 0 recs

i think Peralta is arb-eligible

so I’m not sure how offering a minor league contract would work…

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by KC Chris on Nov 6, 2008 2:44 PM EST up 0 recs

anyone know if this is correct

or would we need to dfa him first?

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by KC Chris on Nov 6, 2008 2:53 PM EST up 0 recs

He is arb eligible

You would non-tender him, making him a free agent, then offer him a minor league deal. He could, of course, reject it and sign with someone else.

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by RoyalsRetro on Nov 6, 2008 3:29 PM EST up 0 recs

thanks.

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by KC Chris on Nov 6, 2008 3:39 PM EST up 0 recs

Why keep Lumsden?

He stinks. I wouldn’t get rid of him, but you don’t need to keep him on the 40 man roster. I doubt another team would claim him.

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by RoyalsRetro on Nov 6, 2008 2:18 PM EST up 0 recs

because you can cut enough without giving him up.

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by 306008 on Nov 6, 2008 2:19 PM EST up 0 recs

True

If I were Dayton, I’d also be scouring the waiver wire looking for free talent that gets dumped by other teams.

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by RoyalsRetro on Nov 6, 2008 2:23 PM EST up 0 recs

Why do that when you can trade your own major league talent for it?

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Nov 6, 2008 2:33 PM EST up 1 recs

boo.

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by KC Chris on Nov 6, 2008 2:43 PM EST up 0 recs

too soon

by ZeppelinDZ on Nov 6, 2008 2:49 PM EST up 0 recs

sorry

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Nov 6, 2008 2:50 PM EST up 0 recs

Lumsden

I’d keep him around if there is room…yea he has sucked, but if you’ve seen him pitch you’d know that keeping him is an option. He’s still up to 95 with his fastball and has a dang good curve when commanding it (this is the problem).

It’s not likely, but maybe he could be another Matt Thornton.

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by doublestix on Nov 6, 2008 5:16 PM EST up 0 recs

yeah

doesn’t he have some small amount of potential as a bullpen arm?

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by wildthang on Nov 6, 2008 6:14 PM EST up 0 recs

When was Lumsden throwing 95 last year?

I saw him pitch a couple times and he was in the low 90’s (89-91) and he looked like he was throwing batting practise.

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by kcscoliny on Nov 6, 2008 7:21 PM EST up 0 recs

Practise=Practice

What are we talkin about Practice

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by kcscoliny on Nov 6, 2008 7:24 PM EST up 0 recs

Make Lumsden a reliever immediately

Or did they do that already? I forget.

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by jackie ballgame on Nov 6, 2008 5:49 PM EST 0 recs

They tried it late in the season

….and he still got shelled.

Lumsden must go, and now.

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by Royals Nation on Nov 6, 2008 10:35 PM EST up 0 recs

Did he have some sort of injury?

Or has he just lost his mechanics? Or has he just lost it in general?

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by 306008 on Nov 7, 2008 7:21 AM EST up 0 recs

I just assumed it was a 'lost it' disease

doublestix?

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by Royals Nation on Nov 7, 2008 10:37 PM EST up 0 recs

40 Man Roster

Pitchers: Greg Atencio, Brian Bannister, Henry Barrera, Ryan Braun, Jose Capellan, Jairo Cuevas, Kyle Davies, Zack Greinke, Luke Hochevar, Devon Lowery, Tyler Lumsden, Ron Mahay, Gil Meche, Neal Musser, Chris Niccol, Julio Pimentel, Ramon Ramirez, Carlos Rosa, Mario Santiago, Joakim Soria, Robinson Tejada

Catchers: John Buck, Miguel Olivo, Brayan Pena

Infielders: Mike Aviles, Alberto Callaspo, Esteban German, Alex Gordon, Mike Jacobs, Kila Ka’aihue, Mario Lisson, Ryan Shealy

Outfielders: Shane Costa, David DeJesus, Jose Duarte, Joey Gathright, Jose Guillen, Mitch Maier, Mark Teahen

I added players that I thought might be protected and took off those who should be let go. The flaws to this roster construction really become front and center (the surplus – 4th OF’s, 1B’s/ the absence of Middle infield depth, and starting OF’s other than DDJ, Guillen. )

by lordbyronk on Nov 9, 2008 11:03 AM EST 0 recs