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Dayton's Chat Transcript is Up

goroyals21: I've heard numerous rumors about Mark Teahen getting traded. Are any of those rumors true?

Moore: Obviously, I was very disturbed about some of the rumors that have been in print concerning Mark Teahen being traded. It is not my style to comment on rumors concerning our players, but I would say that Mark Teahen, in my mind, is more important to our team today then he was in all of 2008 -- and he was very important to our team in '08.

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Yikes, I'm a Mark Teahen fan

but I’m not sure how a guy somewhere beteween 0 and .6 wins above replacement level is “very important” to the team. Well, unless he’s compared to other “important” players li9ke Ross Gload, Jose Guillen, Tony Pena, Jr. and Joey Gathrihgt, all of whom were clearly worse than that. Seems like all of those guys have something in common… what is it…

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Dec 2, 2008 10:05 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

those figure are for Teahen in 2008

in 2006 and 2007 he was considerably better than that — above average, in fact.

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Dec 2, 2008 10:06 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

If Moore is still shopping Teabag around...

…then it wouldn’t be very smart for him to publicly talk down Teahen’s value, even in the context of an online chat. It is probably just posturing.

by DarthYoshi on Dec 2, 2008 10:14 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

yeah

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Dec 2, 2008 10:24 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Look...

ever since Moore took over as GM, I can’t really remember more than one or two interviews, chats, etc. where the guy has said ANYTHING of real substance, not to mention anything that could be construed as even somewhat controversial or provocative. That chat transcript was just Exhibit No. 637 for Dayton’s pure and utter vanilla-ness when it comes to the media.

I think it might benefit him to actually show SOME sort of personality to the fans (i.e. prove that he’s not actually a super-cutting-edge robot manufactured by the Japanese). But, generally I would agree that saying anything specifically negative about a player is rarely going to do more harm than good.

by Sweep_the_Leg on Dec 3, 2008 12:39 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

your fancy stats don't measure two things

1)

2)

(this is actually from a google image search for “clubhouse presence” … WTF?)

by royalsreview on Dec 2, 2008 10:11 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

has there ever been a Snoop Dog picture that isn't hilarious?

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Dec 2, 2008 10:25 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

+1

I too was disappointed. For a long interview with numerous questions, little was revealed. – TL

[In 2008] Kila Ka’aihue had the best on-base percentage of any hitter in the minor leagues. - Joe Posnanski, 11/9/2008 ... Ergo, let's give him a shot at first base in KC in 2009.

by timlacy on Dec 3, 2008 11:48 AM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Moore is an intelligent GM

There’s no benefit to the Royals of him being open and forthcoming. A good GM keeps his cards close to the vest and says positive things about his players. If he’s shopping some player or doesn’t like some player, he needs to keep that to himself. Moore almost never makes a mistake in a public statement. He’s not even a part-time loose cannon like Kenny Williams or J.P. Ricciardi.

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Dec 3, 2008 12:43 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Like I said, I get why Moore is doing it

I’m just saying that because of it, trying to read anything from the chat is probably pointless.

by DarthYoshi on Dec 3, 2008 1:49 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Agreed

His public statements are pretty useless as far as getting real, meaningful information. One possible exception is that if he’s asked about possibly trading a player and he doesn’t very clearly and emphatically deny it, then such a trade is possible.

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Dec 3, 2008 2:01 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yes and No.

You can be expansive about things that don’t involve particular players—-directions, organizational values, coaching, etc. I mean, he could’ve been more expansive about the Kauffman Stadium improvements. – TL

[In 2008] Kila Ka’aihue had the best on-base percentage of any hitter in the minor leagues. - Joe Posnanski, 11/9/2008 ... Ergo, let's give him a shot at first base in KC in 2009.

by timlacy on Dec 3, 2008 2:32 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I can think of few things as disturbing

As Teahen trade rumors.

Relive Royals History at royalsretro.blogspot.com

by RoyalsRetro on Dec 2, 2008 10:17 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

absolute lies are pretty disturbing

and doesn’t his need an “absolute lies” tag?

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Dec 2, 2008 10:25 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Here's a tidbit that may actually be informative
royalsn09: Would Carlos Rosa be a better asset for the ’09 Royals as a starter or reliever?

Moore: Carlos Rosa has a power arm with a developing slider and a solid changeup, and we feel that he could be a viable option to compete for a bullpen spot in the spring.

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Dec 2, 2008 11:11 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Here is what I found most intresting....

moore09: How do you plan to unclog the logjam of players at first base/DH?

Moore: Those decisions tend to work themselves out. There is obvious competition there, and certainly other teams in baseball recognize our depth in that position. Some of those players at those positions have [Minor League] options as well.

I would read this to mean that he has possibly already spoken to other teams or have other options for this delima, seeing the “certainly other teams in baseball recognize our depth @ 1b”… the only question is who goes where for what??

by true_blue on Dec 3, 2008 12:06 AM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Only my off-season pet-project, ...

…Kila has minor league options. Ergo, that situation has worked itself out. – TL

[In 2008] Kila Ka’aihue had the best on-base percentage of any hitter in the minor leagues. - Joe Posnanski, 11/9/2008 ... Ergo, let's give him a shot at first base in KC in 2009.

by timlacy on Dec 3, 2008 11:49 AM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

This thread is reckless and inappropriate

Butler is the only major league roster player with options, ergo Butler starts the season in AAA?

or mashing on someone else’s MLB roster

I'm about to change my username to DannyDuffyfan

by jackie ballgame on Dec 3, 2008 11:54 AM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Butler is the only major league roster player with options, ergo Butler starts the season in AAA?

The 1B/DH logjam includes Butler, Jacobs, Shealy, Gload and Ka’aihue. Both Butler and Ka’aihue have options remaining. I wouldn’t jump to the conclusion that Moore plans to start Butler in Omaha next year.

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Dec 3, 2008 12:45 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Well, if you really think that Dayton...

is serious about Teahen’s value to the team, and that he therefore will not be moved, then Gload HAS to be gone. Teahen does everything that Gload does (and does it better). And the reference to “players with options” means that Kila will start at Omaha.

My guess would be that Butler, Jacobs, and Shealy start the year in a 1B/DH rotation (with Teahen thrown in at 1B occasionally, and maybe Guillen at DH once in a while). After the trading deadline, I would assume that either Shealy or Jacobs (maybe both) are gone, and Kila is called back up provided he establishes at Omaha in the first half that last year was not a fluke.

by Sweep_the_Leg on Dec 3, 2008 1:04 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

…is serious about Teahen’s value to the team, and that he therefore will not be moved, then Gload HAS to be gone.

I sure hope so. It definitely makes sense, but Moore has overvalued Gload in the past. We’ll see.

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Dec 3, 2008 1:37 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Mark Teahen

Valuable player or THE MOST valuable player?

Relive Royals History at royalsretro.blogspot.com

by RoyalsRetro on Dec 4, 2008 11:22 AM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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