[T]he strongest advocates of a salary cap, the ones ranting about salaries in light of the economy, are full of hot air... in the real world, during a time in which the player's slice of the pie has dropped tremendously (a $400 million loss of the pie in 2008 alone, relative to 2003), ticket prices have continued to gone up unabated. Just as expected, savings from limiting the salaries of those mean old players have been filtered directly into the pockets of owners. Owners who cry poverty and get welfare stadiums. Republicans talked about welfare queens 15 years ago, but it would take thousands of so-called queens driving around in taxpayer Cadillacs to match some of the true members of that category. Take Jeff Loria, who pockets revenue-sharing money and then turns around and gets an additional honeypot in the form an apparently imminent fancy-new stadium. If MLB owners were in charge of the TARP funds, the $700 billion would already be completely gone and the sycophantic media, ever-hungry for prestige, quotes, and free pastrami on rye, would blame it on pay raises for local janitorial staff....
The Yankees do spend more money than other teams in MLB, but the differences would be less drastic if the payrolls of many teams had been rising up to the waves of new cash that have entered baseball in recent years. Going by the NFL formula, very generous considering the MLBPA is far more powerful an entity than any other union in sports, the payroll floor for 2009 would almost certainly be in the $100 million range. 58% of league revenue, as the players in NFL get, would be, in baseball, an average team payroll of a hair under $120 million. It's pretty clear that while the Yankees are outspending everyone comfortably, the rest of baseball has just as much to do with the payroll disparity as the Yankees do....
The Steinbrenners aren't anywhere near as rich or as liquid as some other owners in baseball such as Carl Pohlad of the Twins.... Yes, the Yankees got a huge, undeserved payday from the locals for their stadium, like most teams in baseball did, but it's a mitigating factor that they're actually plowing those funds back into the on-field product. And the team never threatened to not compete until they got their sweet check. Perhaps a small difference, but I see it as a good bit more ethical than Kevin McClatchy demanding taxpayer moneys to help the Pirates compete and then turn around and use all the money to fund his failing media empire.
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I just put this here to get people to visit the article and discuss. Not necessarily endorsing or criticizing Szym. here, although I do think he makes many good points. Still processing this stuff, myself.
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The comment I posted under Dan's post a couple hours ago
“Going by the NFL formula” doesn’t work for Major League Baseball, because in MLB, revenues are not fully shared like they are in the NFL. If all of MLB’s TV money were shared equally, then yes a $100M payroll floor and/or a $120M payroll average would be reasonable. But when there are massive revenue disparities, there will be massive payroll disparities. Do you think the Brewers can easily afford a $120M payroll? Think they can afford it as easily as the Yankees can afford a $200M payroll. Let’s not pretend that the playing field isn’t massively tilted toward the large market teams.
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One more funny quote for RR because he's such a big Angels fan
Merry Christmas (I don’t care who else does or doesn’t say it for what reasons, it’s my religion and I’ll express it how I want!) RR:
Arte Moreno may get to have the personal satisfaction of feeling like the injured party, but this is what Tex was going to make when the Angels acquired him and if they weren’t going to play serious ball, the Angels should never have done the Kotchman trade. Perhaps they’ll change the rules of baseball during the season and allow moral victories to win games, minimizing the damage that the team offense, 10th in the AL in runs with a huge couple of months of Teixeira thrown in, can do.
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I don't disagree with the economics involved with Dan's statement but NY Royal's point is exactly the issue
Even if owners all had the exact same profit and FOs made only shrewd signings there would still be disparity. I emailed that very thought to Keith Law and he actually sent me a pretty thorough response. Here it is:
Jay:
You’re missing the entire point of why salary caps are stupid: They are wealth transfers from players to owners.
If the Yankees can’t sign Teixeira because of an artificial salary cap, Teixeira signs with, say, Boston, receiving $10 million than he does in the universe where there is no salary cap. That’s $10 million in savings to owners – arguably to the Red Sox owners, but you could say some of the savings accumulates to the Yankees’ owners as well. It’s a consumer surplus, in the sense that owners are consumers of player talent while players are producers. It’s clearly a non-optimal solution, it deprives players of the right to earn a fair salary for their efforts (equal to the marginal revenue product of their work), and it enriches owners who are, in fact, already richer than the players.
Yet there is no evidence at all that a salary cap will increase parity or competitive balance. The 8 playoff teams in MLB this year ranked 4th, 5th, 6th, 7th, 8th, 13th (Phillies), 15th, and 29th (Rays) in Opening Day payrolls. When you consider that these rankings are biased to begin with – a team that intends to contend in a given year is likely to increase its Opening Day payroll to that end – that’s pretty remarkable, with three of eight playoff teams ranking outside the top 10 and none of the top three teams making the playoffs.
The year before, it was 1st, 2nd, 5th, 8th, 14th, 23rd, 25th (Rockies), and 26th. That’s even worse. Only half of the top-five teams by OD payroll in 2007 and 2008 made the playoffs. Only 9 of the 20 teams in the top 10 across those two years made the playoffs.
The reason, of course, is that baseball’s salary and service-time structure severely restricts player salaries until they have accumulated six or more years of major-league service time, by which point much of a player’s baseball value is already gone. Teams are becoming much more shrewd about the value of players who have little major-league service time, which is why, say, the Pirates were willing to take some fringy guys back in their two deals this July, and why the A’s have gone for quantity as well as quantity recently when trading veterans for kids.
Owners push competitive balance as an argument for a salary cap, but their real interest is self-interest: increasing profits. MSM writers and many fans lap it up because they lack any background in economics to realize that the owners are just pushing nonsense to line their own wallets.
Keith
If all MLB were to do is have a salary cap, then he's right
You’re missing the entire point of why salary caps are stupid: They are wealth transfers from players to owners.
With no greater revenue sharing, if MLB set a salary cap at $150M or $100M or pretty much anything, it would just lower the salaries of players. Unless the cap were set very low, it also would only somewhat decrease the competitive imbalance in baseball. A salary cap would have to be coupled with aggressive revenue sharing, as the NFL does. If the cap were then tied to an appropriate percentage of revenues, then player salaries wouldn’t have to decrease at all.
And his “evidence” that there is little competitive imbalance in baseball was pathetic. Look at it over multiple years and you’ll see the top 10 largest markets getting into the playoffs much, much more often than the smallest 10 markets.
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by Scott McKinney on Dec 24, 2008 7:00 PM EST up reply actions
I am a pretty big Law fan
but I disagree here as well.
I don’t buy the increasing payroll by opening day with the intetion of contending line. I don’ t believe at all that it would skew payroll by enough to change anything.
The other thing is, its pointless to just look at the payroll rank because its misleading data. If the difference between 10th and say 12th is 8 million you’ve given a team outside the top 10 a whole bunch of credit for being about the same. Same thing if you’ve got three teams just burning the rest of the league in payroll. My concern isn’t how the 7th or 14th highest payroll teams fare if they all have relatively similar payrolls that are dwarfed by the highest few spenders. Its a stupid way to look at it because going from rank to rank encourages people to think there is disparity between 1 and 2 that is the same as 14-15.
I agree with your comments completely.
Here was my response. He hasn’t replied yet but it is holiday time so we’ll see.
Keith,
Thanks for the thorough response. Your key points make perfect sense from an economic standpoint. Those who don’t understand economics (i.e. the public, most of the politicians in office, etc.) might argue that players are too highly paid, thus lowering their salaries is justified. That is, of course, false. There is a multitude of empirical evidence out there that shows that astutely constructed contracts are based on a player’s actual contribution to the teams win totals (and thus the amount of fans that show up/follow the games).
I also can’t argue that a player is generally at or near his decline phase once a team loses control of his services. Nor can I contend that historically the playoffs show a reasonable amount of representation from teams of various salary levels. Nevertheless, I still think there is a gap in your analysis.
Let’s use the Yankees as an example because it’s the most glaring case of my issues with the current system. Last year was the first year in quite awhile that Yankees didn’t make the postseason. One of the reasons they didn’t make it is because they attempted to rely on their young talent rather than go out and get some high priced FAs. Their young talent just doesn’t appear to be as good as billed (so far). Meanwhile, it’s been since the late 90s that Yankees have excelled through homegrown talent. They have thrived successful off of high priced FAs and their farm had been for the most part, barren.
Two years ago, the Rockies had everything come together for them at once. They’ve developed their young talent extremely well. Their playoff window may already be closed for the foreseeable future. The Rays have had the #1 pick since leeching was the preferred method of medical treatment. They have made some great trades and have had some excellent low cost FA signings. Even so, they’ll be projected to finish 3rd in that division next year.
So what am I getting at? Basing your success off of the draft and low cost FAs is far less predictable than signing the deserving high priced FAs. Teams will continually improve in developing their own talent, but on average, it will always be less successful than building a team with historically successful FAs. The nature of baseball is that only a percentage of young players turn out to be even major league average. Deserving high priced FAs will always be a better risk, based on averages, than young talent.
The Yankees may make some mistakes with long-term contracts. They can still sign the best available players the next year, and the year after that. They never need to develop their farm system – they can hit the redo switch each year. Developing a productive farm system is far more challenging than signing proven FAs. Teams like the Yankees will always be more competitive more easily than the smaller market teams.
While salary cap may not be the solution, I believe it should not be more difficult to make the playoffs for a small market team because they have to rely on a less precise method of success, developing young talent. I’m not looking at the data right now, but I would be willing to bet that teams with higher payrolls have more consistently made the playoffs since 1994 than the lower payroll teams.
Also, I believe the Oaklands of the world were able to take advantage of system that wasn’t in equilibrium. That really isn’t the case anymore, or it won’t be soon. As many more teams focus on their young talent, the only really differentiator in terms of consistent playoff appearances will be the teams that can supplement their young players with high priced FAs. That then gets back to the root of the problem.
Again, I’m not necessarily sold on the salary cap as the solution. As you pointed out, it has its own set of issues. One idea I haven’t researched yet but sounds like an interesting solution is realigning divisions based on market size. What do you think about that idea?
Interesting on the market size
one could argue they already are partially aligned by that size.
Boston and New York are in the same division, and Baltimore has had a pretty huge fan base. Toronto did until the Strike. Only the Rays are out of place. KC has the money to compete with Minnesota and Cleveland, for sure. Then there’s the AL West.
not perfect, but it’s close than people think.
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by Matt Klaassen on Dec 25, 2008 2:18 PM EST up reply actions
realigning divisions based on market size
A lot of times in these discussions, people use payroll and market interchangeably when they are not lock-step.
Would realignment be determined strictly by metro population? If so, the Rangers, Marlins and Nationals are large market teams. If it is based on payroll, then based on 2008, the smaller metro Cardinals, Brewers and Indians are mid-tier along with large market Philadelphia and Houston while large market Texas, Washington and Florida are in the bottom third. If it is based on revenue, then you open a whole new host of problems.
Which is in part why I believe Law said…
Yet there is no evidence at all that a salary cap will increase parity or competitive balance. The 8 playoff teams in MLB this year ranked 4th, 5th, 6th, 7th, 8th, 13th (Phillies), 15th, and 29th (Rays) in Opening Day payrolls. When you consider that these rankings are biased to begin with – a team that intends to contend in a given year is likely to increase its Opening Day payroll to that end – that’s pretty remarkable, with three of eight playoff teams ranking outside the top 10 and none of the top three teams making the playoffs.
Move a team to New Jersey
Seems like the best solution to me. I don’t like meddling with market principles with formulas created out of thin air. The problem is not that the Yankees make too much money or spend too much money, the problem is they have an inherent advantage by playing in a humongous market. Nobody complained when the Royals spent the most money in baseball, because spending money is not a problem. What is a problem is the fundamental unfairness of having an advantage simply because of the monopoly-protected territory your team happens to sit in.
So mitigate the advantage. Move a team into the Yankees (and Mets) territory. It won’t devastate their earnings – lots of New Yorkers will still be Yankees fans. They’ll probably still be the top earning club in baseball. But it will have an impact.
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I really don't think adding another team would greatly cut into the Yankees revenue
What kind of impact do you think it would have? Right now they can easily afford a $210M payroll. If you move a team to NJ, then the Yankees would only be able to afford a $190M payroll? I guess that would have meant this year that they couldn’t have signed one of the good FA’s they signed, and that probably another large market team would have signed him instead. So it seems like moving another team to NJ would make the payrolls of other large market teams more competitive with the Yankees but wouldn’t do anything to decrease the disparity between large market and small market teams in general.
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