The Office Season 5 Episode 9 Open Thread

by royalsreview on Dec 4, 2008 3:27 PM EST Comment 103 comments

The Surplus: A budget surplus causes factions to break out in the office over how to spend the money; Angela and Andy visit Schrute Farms.

For all the criticism I've leveled at the writers for their disneyfication of Pam-Jim, there's hardly another non-horrible relationship on the show: Michael-Jan, Pam-Roy, Kelly-Ryan, Kelly-Darrel, Andy-Angela, Andy-Dwight, etc. A middle ground? Probably Jim-Karen, I suppose, which seemed fairly realistic, not without benefits or obvious limitations. Maybe you can stay the same about Michael-Holly. So maybe we should give them a pass on the increasing annoyingness of the show's front-page couple. Then again, all the other couples mentioned, with the exception of Jim-Karen and maybe some of the Michael stuff, all the other couples on the show aren't quite fully "real" anyway: they exist to be funny and weird, and that's fine. For something like three solid seasons however, Pam & Jim were essentially the stand-ins for the audience, with all their knowing and frustrated glimpses at the camera. Dwight was never in that chair...

As I've seen mentioned on other Office sites, interestingly, is that Dwight is morphing into a kind of minor success story or badass or something. The Dwight is no longer always "on" him it seems... is he becoming the new Jim essentially, with Jim basically a more prominent David Wallace figure??

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I think it is still a very good show

The Jim-Pam perfect love relationship is more than a little annoying. To me it has become this bizarre anomaly which doesn’t fit with the rest of the show at all. Quite frankly, I find it fun and interesting to watch this bizarre, story book think they’ve created. And the rest of the show and the rest of the characters (with the occasional exception of Michael) are consistently funny and well written. I think the show is exceptional…with one significant exception.

By the way, I’m very much looking forward to the trip to Schrute Farms. Did I see in the previews that Mose Schrute will be in the episode? The guy who plays that character is/was a baseball blogger, right?

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Dec 4, 2008 3:34 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

And a world class ping pong player

Oh wait, that was just CGI.

I totally should have been Mose for halloween. I missed the boat.

by raefzilla on Dec 4, 2008 3:41 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

right on

for awhile pam & jim were actually coherent members of the rest of the show’s oeuvre, but that was killed off systematically by Jim’s “I’m here to stay!” taunt to Ryan and Pam’s “you bought me a house” line

and that’s fine

its preferable to making them an on-again off-again couple and perhaps its preferable to making them frustrated and unhappy, since there’s probably only so much of that most people want or can take

its almost like the pam/jim plot line is like a bad, unmovable contract that sorta made sense in years 1&2, but is just an annoying holdover by year 4

by royalsreview on Dec 4, 2008 3:50 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

figured you'd catch the heavy irony in Jim's "I'm here to stay" line uttered in Dunder-MIfflin Scranton

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by devil_fingers on Dec 4, 2008 3:54 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

you mean WRGT the fact that Dunder Mifflin is not here to stay?

or something else

by royalsreview on Dec 4, 2008 3:59 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Jim had

up to that point in the series (pre-buying the house in Scranton, etc.), always had the attitude that DM Scranton was a job he didn’t like and that he wanted to get out of there. Was this the same season that Michael did the survival thing while Jim mismanaged the office and had the “I won’t be here in 10 years line” to which Michael said “that’s what I always said?”

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Dec 4, 2008 4:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

anyone else notice

that voice-over commercial they have Jim doing for that phone where they intentionally butcher the pronunciation of Nevada for the sake of a joke.

I wonder how much he gets paid for that.

Accidentally not thedude925 anymore. I do hate this new name.

by wildthang on Dec 4, 2008 3:51 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

is that dude?

I’ve been wondering that.

I’m also convinced the guy who played the Big Lebowski is doing the voiceover for at least six things right now

by royalsreview on Dec 4, 2008 4:00 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Beef

Its what’s for dinner

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by RoyalsRetro on Dec 4, 2008 4:08 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

COORS . . . .

THE BANQUET BEER

by royalstern05 on Dec 6, 2008 3:36 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Dwight as Jim

this has been hinted at (I think I’ve noted it) elsewhere — his screwing with Andy (not just the affair, but the Cornell thing was all Jim), which reprises the “switched identity” prank Jim pulled on Dwight a couple seasons ago, even to the point of ending the same way, with Andy coming in with a quasi-send up of Dwight just as Dwight attempted to do with Jim.

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Dec 4, 2008 3:56 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

and, obviously, his interest in destroying an engagement

on the whole, I’m down with this development, I must say

now if we could have a Creed-based episode, I’d be really happy

by royalsreview on Dec 4, 2008 4:01 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Creed, et. al. are like Comic Book Guy or Gil

like to have them involved in episodes, but when one is based prmiarily around them, that usually sucks

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Dec 4, 2008 4:15 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I agree

Creed is one of the best characters on the show, but overexposing him would be a mistake. I actually think the best part of the show is the characters other than Jim, Pam, and Michael. But those characters wouldn’t be as good if they had to carry a lot more weight.

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Dec 4, 2008 4:27 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Correct

They had a few too many Creed jokes last season I think, and the episodes suffered. One or two lines an episode is about right.

by raefzilla on Dec 4, 2008 4:43 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I do sometimes like his mini-story lines

Like the time he failed to do something and blamed it on someone at another facility and ended up getting her fired. That was priceless.

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Dec 4, 2008 4:46 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Creed showing up unannounced for dinner at his neighbors Jim and Pam's house

could be a lively B story. “I was heading down to the quarry to . . . heh, what smells so good?”

by Gopherballs on Dec 4, 2008 5:04 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

+7

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Dec 4, 2008 5:12 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Creed is the man

Back in Woodstock a man or two might have slipped in…

by CubFreak on Dec 4, 2008 7:21 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

i'd like to see where creed lives

although at one point they said he slept at the office/ weekended in Toronto or something bizarre

by royalsreview on Dec 5, 2008 2:24 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I thought he slept in the office and was homeless in Toronto

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by devil_fingers on Dec 5, 2008 11:38 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Bears....beets.....Battlestar Galactica

That was probably the funniest prank Jim has ever pulled. I bust a gut laughing at that one.

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by RoyalsRetro on Dec 4, 2008 4:08 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

A budget surplus causes factions to break out in the office over how to spend the money

Heh, we just had a class lecture on this phenomenom. You must spend every penny, even if you don’t need it, or you find your budget cut.

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by RoyalsRetro on Dec 4, 2008 4:09 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

The Office Rocks!

Limitless paper in a paperless world

But I agree, the Jim and Pam thing is getting old
Maybe not enough drama…

by CubFreak on Dec 4, 2008 7:24 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Chairs or a copier

What does your office need?

And please I don’t want to hear a younger sexier new HR girl.

Actually, do tell!

by CubFreak on Dec 4, 2008 9:10 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

not bad

no long commentary. I’ll just say that half-hour sitcoms are almost always better with short, one-episode story lines than longer arcs, especially after the 2-3 season mark

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Dec 4, 2008 9:37 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

i'd love an hour long for Christmas

by royalsreview on Dec 5, 2008 2:24 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

(trying to resist)

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by devil_fingers on Dec 5, 2008 11:38 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

pull the trigger.....you know you wanna

by Fernando Vina School of Linguistics on Dec 6, 2008 12:19 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Pretty sure they're doing an hour-long episode after the Super Bowl

Royals, NBA, Golden Hurricane, Hawkeyes, Chiefs, and KU basketball, in that order.

by Rowyal on Dec 8, 2008 10:48 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

What is wrong with Pam?

Why has she been so petty the last 2 episodes (the microwave and getting mad when Jim votes for a new copier)? Could going to school have made her THAT much of a “teenager”?

by minda33 on Dec 4, 2008 9:40 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

Maybe it made her more dissatisfied with her job and these incidents are the expression of that (possibly subconscious).

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Dec 4, 2008 9:43 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

you know what really rocked about tonight's episode?

No Ryan

by royalsreview on Dec 4, 2008 10:43 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Man, I love that character

Love to hate. Love to see him struggle. Love to see him be put upon as the “the temp.” Love to see him have to deal with the pure insanity which is Kelly. And now he’s gone :(

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Dec 5, 2008 12:10 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

that's who she is

she’s settling in to her life role

Jim’s realizing that he has, too, only he’s more unhappy about it

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Dec 4, 2008 9:45 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

she looked good tonight

that was a Mad Men style look she had

by royalsreview on Dec 4, 2008 10:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

really?

I thought the clothes were deliberbately even “older ladyish” than usual in order to get the “contentment” thing over… althoug the hair is better when the obnoxious curls are less tight

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Dec 4, 2008 10:45 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I always forget how much lipstick rules until I see an immediate before and after

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by devil_fingers on Dec 4, 2008 10:48 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

more on the lipstick

it appears the Jim is wearing something lip balm.

very bright, maybe it’s the HD

by CubFreak on Dec 4, 2008 11:56 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I thought that the red lipstick on her looked foolish and fairly unattractive. What makes her attractive is her down to earth looks. Doll her up like that and she just looks silly (to me).

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Dec 5, 2008 12:11 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Hey Steve Balboni is down to earth

Ever see him with lipstick?

by CubFreak on Dec 5, 2008 12:40 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I sort of miss

frumpy season 2 Pam. Especially in this episode. Fancy New Beasley was a little too much.

by raefzilla on Dec 5, 2008 1:25 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

you didn't see blades of glory did you

I wanna know what love is, I want you to show me

by LeoBloom on Dec 5, 2008 2:04 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

It wasn’t the lipstick that made her look good in that movie. A good, professional, glamorous makeup job on her looks good. But just throwing on some cheesy red lipstick makes her look silly (as she looked in this episode).

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Dec 5, 2008 2:12 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I think her look in this episode was part of the joke

by Gopherballs on Dec 5, 2008 2:21 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Indeed

Or at least part of the character. The character Pam isn’t a sex symbol. She’s a moderately attractive, realistic, girl next door. She’s somewhat shy and very unassuming. A character like that can’t/won’t really vamp it up. If she feels like she needs to all of the sudden get flirty, she’ll put on some cheesy red lipstick in the hopes that it will work.

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Dec 5, 2008 2:26 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

One of the best lines about Pam

which I think was in the pilot (and thus from the British version), was Michael saying as part of the introduction to Pam “you should have seen her a few years ago.”

by Gopherballs on Dec 5, 2008 2:46 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

+1

I don’t think that was in the British version, though, although David Brent says something along the same lines.

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Dec 5, 2008 3:01 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

He says something about

Waking up at the crack of Dawn…which doesn’t translate to Pam. They must’ve used the “few years ago” joke instead.

by Bornin85 on Dec 8, 2008 11:18 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

+1

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by RoyalsRetro on Dec 5, 2008 9:46 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

i was disapointed in pam's efforts at seduction

which were wearing lipstick and being complementary

somehow michael’s body was highlighted, which doesn’t seem right

I wanna know what love is, I want you to show me

by LeoBloom on Dec 5, 2008 2:05 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

nice change of pace episode

I thought this was a bounce back, meat & potatoes episode… although the A story was just OK, every second of Dwight/Angela/Andy was worth it

loved the Mennonite dude… reminds me of some Mennonite guys I used to debate against back in the day

by royalsreview on Dec 4, 2008 10:41 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

Mennonite guy was a bit of an stereotype

but I can deal with it… Scranton isn’t actually in Lancaster country… in any case, I seriously doubt there are any German-language Mennonite churches in the area, especially given the age of the settlements in Pennsylvania. Even in the much more recent “Russian” Mennonite communities in, say, Kitchener, Ontario, there is only one High German service left. And that was 6 years ago, last time I checked.

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Dec 4, 2008 10:47 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

yea... i mean, its incredibly silly

but it still gets me

was watching a re-run on TBS on tuesday (“Take Your Daughter to Work Day”) and I LOLed when Dwight was reading the Struulpeter story

by royalsreview on Dec 4, 2008 11:15 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

those storiers are seriously f-ed

and sehr Deutsch

the “marriage” is a hilarious unexpected twist. I hope they run with it a bit.

Angela was looking good at certain point in this episode.

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Dec 4, 2008 11:33 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Angela looking good?

I don’t know but Phyllis is looking good these days.

Did she’s gain a few pounds?

Maybe, it’s the HD

by CubFreak on Dec 5, 2008 12:02 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I like the element of Dwight winning her back over

and losing her at the same time

combined with some harmless non-disneyfied pam & jim activity, i once again proved to be 0-2 in sorta identifying or predicting series trends

by royalsreview on Dec 5, 2008 2:14 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

You're the Buster Olney of sitcoms!

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Dec 5, 2008 11:39 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

he makes Ravech look humble

I wanna know what love is, I want you to show me

by LeoBloom on Dec 5, 2008 2:05 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Pam & Roy wasn't unrealistic, IMO,

just a shitty relationship.

I’m really reaching the “I don’t care” stage with this show. Though I think the fact that stupid people like it around here (I’m surrounded by MORONS :P) is not helping.

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Dec 5, 2008 2:28 AM EST reply actions 0 recs

you mean MORANS

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by devil_fingers on Dec 5, 2008 11:39 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

you're spelling it wrong; get a brain

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by marbotty on Dec 9, 2008 4:22 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Pretty decent episode

I agree with the earlier comment that the fewer the storylines, the better. The stuff on Schrute farms was far more compelling of course.

I liked seeing Jim take a stand, albeit a small one, against Pam. And what a plug for Burlington Coat Factory! I want to walk into there today and be a king!

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by RoyalsRetro on Dec 5, 2008 9:49 AM EST reply actions 0 recs

The episode's ending...

…stunk. I loved the spending-the-surplus story line, but the episode overall was average. However, I missed the first 3-4 minutes. Maybe that would’ve changed my perspective?

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by timlacy on Dec 5, 2008 11:30 AM EST reply actions 0 recs

Probably

It featured Pam Beasley walking around the office completely naked. I can’t believe they didn’t even censor it.

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by RoyalsRetro on Dec 5, 2008 11:35 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

...

…

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Dec 5, 2008 11:40 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I liked this episode

It wasn’t as good as, say, the Canada business trip episode, but it was alright.

Every second of the Dwight/Andy/Angela subplot this episode was hilarious. I have gradually begun to warm up to Andy this season, perhaps because I feel sorry for him for being stuck with Angela.

I will say that I really like that Oscar has been much more prominent in a few episodes this season, he is one of my favorite secondary characters and one of the few who can get away with being overexposed and still do alright (as opposed to, say, Creed). Oscar’s cold open with Michael, and the whole lemonade stand analogy, was pretty funny.

Mixed feelings about not having Ryan in the episode. I don’t like Ryan, but I love the scenes he shares with Kelly. Their relationship might actually be my favorite on the show because of how much they deserve each other.

by DarthYoshi on Dec 5, 2008 12:30 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

Agreed

Oscar has surpassed Jim as the character most grounded in reality, but he is not above manipulating the others or pulling out a mean streak. Adding Oscar (or Darryl) to a story line tends to keep it from veering off into annoying asburdity.

For once, the Jim/Pam storyline worked. Hopefully, the writers keep realizing not every conflict between Jim and Pam has to threaten their relationship . . . or require a syrupy resolution.

by Gopherballs on Dec 5, 2008 2:20 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Or moving him to DH

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by devil_fingers on Dec 5, 2008 2:23 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Oscar has surpassed Jim as the character most grounded in reality

I think Toby is in the hunt for that crown as well. He sees Michael’s inappropriate, often unethical and sometimes illegal actions and quietly points this out to him but doesn’t make waves. He’s a very realistic HR person, and quiet office worker.

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Dec 5, 2008 2:28 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Toby

Is a silent killer.

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by RoyalsRetro on Dec 5, 2008 2:31 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

+1

Awesome line.

Me like Toby. When The Office is filled with oversized personalities like Michael, Dwight, Andy, Kelly, et al., Toby is a really nice contrast.

by DarthYoshi on Dec 5, 2008 2:33 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I actually wouldn’t mind too much if Toby actually silently killed Michael one night. I think the Michael character is way too over the top. If he were gone and then there were a power struggle between Jim, Dwight, Toby, Andy, a hastily organized Finance Alliance and the Annex Consortium. That would make for a hell of a season, as well as more b-story lines for people outside of Jim, Pam, Dwight and Angela (not that I have anything against Dwight and Angela).

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Dec 5, 2008 2:39 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Toby is on the team

His reactions, though, are not always realistic. When Michael calls the cops on him in an attempt to frame him, Toby’s response is to chide Michael for wasting the police’s time — it’s a funnier, but absurd.

by Gopherballs on Dec 5, 2008 2:41 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs

+1

Just because Toby is quiet, doesn’t mean he’s realistic. His reactions in the “Frame Toby” episode shown him to be as much of a one-dimensional character as Creed, Andy, Meredith, etc. That’s the point.

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Dec 5, 2008 2:43 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

His reactions, though, are not always realistic

I hear what you’re saying, but there are some sad sack people like that. And I think they are over-represented in sad little office workplaces in sad little towns like Scranton, PA. I’ve seen, met and worked with people like Toby before.

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Dec 5, 2008 2:45 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

If framed for a felony

even Charlie Brown would snap and bitch slap Lucy.

by Gopherballs on Dec 5, 2008 2:49 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

No, Charlie Brown would say, “Oh good grief.” And shake his defeated, beaten down, perma-victim, spherical head. And there are a shocking number of people that are like that in real life. They seethe inside, but they don’t let any of it out. And then one day they might snap and silently kill their boss in the middle of the night.

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Dec 5, 2008 3:02 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

In that case, I guess we can look forward to the following scenes in upcoming episodes

Michael: Toby, I stole your identity, emptied your bank account and 401k, and lost it all on lotto tickets.

Toby: Michael, you shouldn’t have done that. The lottery drawing is a poor return on investment. You would have been much better off playing craps or blackjack in Atlantic City, or at the very least, buying the scratch-off tickets.

+++++

Michael: Toby, I f***ed your ex-wife last night. Twice.

Toby: Michael, you shouldn’t have done that. Employee evaluations were due this morning to corporate, and you have not even started writing them up.

+++++

Michael: Toby, I killed your mother last night by setting fire to your childhood home while she slept.

Toby: Michael, you shouldn’t have done that. With the city’s budget cuts, the fire department is significantly understaffed, and those guys could really use a full night’s sleep.

by Gopherballs on Dec 5, 2008 4:15 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs

You should e-mail one of the writers

That’s gold, GB…Gold!

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Dec 5, 2008 4:21 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

loved the last scene with the two of them

I think pat of what annoys Michael to the point of utter irrational loathing (which, of course, is one of the absurdly hilarious things about the character) is precisely Toby’s usual non-reactions to him. Jan treats him like crap (cf. Ryan’s reactions ot Michael), and he’s attracted to her, Toby treats him with kid gloves, and it drives him nuts.

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Dec 5, 2008 3:02 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I thought this episode was the funniest yet...

but thats just me

Werd.

by focs on Dec 5, 2008 9:01 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

i think the funniest ever, for me

was the raid on utica one…

by royalsreview on Dec 6, 2008 12:46 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

mine may just have the be the one where michael and jan invite everyone over for a dinner party

by DarthYoshi on Dec 6, 2008 11:29 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

+12

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Dec 6, 2008 12:50 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

good, but a little over the top

I liked it more when they hinted at Jan’s instability, rather than shoving it in our faces

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Dec 6, 2008 1:11 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I kind of like how the character developed

From a professional with some odd quirks, to nearly insane, to fully insane, to sane enough to part with Michael, but still at least somewhat unhinged.

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Dec 6, 2008 2:12 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

seems to me that Michael is the one that left her after the dinner party

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by devil_fingers on Dec 6, 2008 2:48 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

True

But it seemed to me that after that, he at least wanted to be in her life (and likely wanted more). She, on the other hand, wanted only what she could get from him (an occasional friend and some kind of baby-helper). She was an asshole to him, but was at least smart and well adjusted enough to know that she needed to minimize the amount of Michael in her life.

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Dec 6, 2008 2:59 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs