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Around SBN: Terry Collins, David Wright, And The Mets/Brewers Kerfuffle

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So indications are that, once again, Greinke is a name they'll at least talk about this week. But judging by the theoretical sticker price, it's obvious they have almost zero appetite for trading him. "Let me ask you something," said an official of one team. "Would you give up three major league pieces and two top, top prospects for him? Because that's what it would take."

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/columns/story?columnist=stark_jayson&page=rumblings081207

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eat that atlanta

just give us

SS Yunel Escobar
SP Jo-Jo Reyes
RP Blaine Boyer
CF Jordan Schafer
SP Tommy Hanson

and we have a deal.

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by doublestix on Dec 7, 2008 11:34 PM EST reply actions  

Javy can be a throw-in

and the Royals can give up JoGui to sweeten the deal.

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by Matt Klaassen on Dec 7, 2008 11:37 PM EST up reply actions  

haha

in all seriousness though, that is the sort of package it sounds like it would take to pry zack. i would take that and run…just doesn’t seem like it is reasonable.

what about texas?

SP Matt Harrison/Eric Hurley
C Taylor Teagarden
RP Warner Madrigal
SP Derek Holland
SS Elvis Andrus

I think it’s safe to say Zack is staying.

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by doublestix on Dec 7, 2008 11:44 PM EST up reply actions  

I'd ask for Davis, over one of the pitchers

you know, because the Royals don’t have enough 1B/DH guys… I know people are mixed on him because of the Ks, but that is serious-ass power.

Apparently the Rangers have been lusting after Greinke for years, though. Should have tried to get him for Mench pre-2006.

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by Matt Klaassen on Dec 7, 2008 11:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Let's do Tampa Bay!

P Wade Davis/Jake McGee
P Mitch Talbot
SS Reid Brignac
OF Fernando Perez
C John Jaso

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by RoyalsRetro on Dec 8, 2008 11:34 AM EST up reply actions  

yeah, Tampa could use another young stud in their rotation

I’m not sure how they’re going to prevent runs for the next 5 years

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by Matt Klaassen on Dec 8, 2008 12:13 PM EST up reply actions  

i don't think that deal rates even close to the other two

replace Perez with Desmond Jennings at Talbot with Sonnanstine and we might have something though

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by doublestix on Dec 8, 2008 1:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Who would trade a guy

with a 14 inning scoreless streak

Werd.

by focs on Dec 7, 2008 11:37 PM EST reply actions  

It's good that they are starting out with a big price tag

Let someone try to dicker them down from there.

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by Scott McKinney on Dec 7, 2008 11:58 PM EST reply actions  

+1

We neither need nor want to get rid of him. Ergo, a big price tag is what it’ll take. We should be as stubborn as we want with pitching talent. – TL

[In 2008] Kila Ka’aihue had the best on-base percentage of any hitter in the minor leagues. - Joe Posnanski, 11/9/2008 ... Ergo, let's give him a shot at first base in KC in 2009.

by timlacy on Dec 8, 2008 10:35 AM EST up reply actions  

But why ask for billions

When you can ask for millions?

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by RoyalsRetro on Dec 8, 2008 11:35 AM EST up reply actions  

I'm never sure

whether that should make me sad because Mike Myers sucks now, or filled with schaudenfreude because I’ve secretly enjoyed his collapse.

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by Matt Klaassen on Dec 8, 2008 11:56 AM EST up reply actions  

It is Chevy-esque

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by RoyalsRetro on Dec 8, 2008 12:02 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm a believer that good teams put themselves in position to compete every year

Selling ready-now talent for future talent isn’t always the way to go. Even though our chances at a pennant in 2009 are slim, I think at some point, you have to say, “Hey, we feel like we’re a .500 team right now. We probably won’t make the playoffs, but if things break right, we could be in the picture. Either way, we’ll be putting a competitive product on the field and will build our fan base which will pay dividends in the future.” Having Greinke on the 2009 team is worth a lot to the franchise even if it doesn’t result in winning the division. For a lot of fans, he’s the reason you pay the price of admission every fifth game. I think it’s appropriate that they ask the world for him. The return in 2010 and beyond has to be damn good to make up for the loss in 2009.

by kcdc1 on Dec 8, 2008 10:57 AM EST reply actions  

On the other hand, good small market teams take rebuilding seriously

Tampa Bay, Oakland, Florida. My point is that there is more than one road to success. Small market teams can’t compete every year. Sometimes they have to rebuild. The smart ones do big fire sales, and re-build from scratch. Of course the Royals are far enough along in their rebuilding effort that they are adding pieces to get close to contention. But I wouldn’t say that good teams try to do whatever they can to contend every year. You can’t be in a win-now mode all the time (unless you are the NYY, NYM, BOS, LAA, LAD, CHC).

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by Scott McKinney on Dec 8, 2008 4:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Don't forget Houston!

/sarc

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by Matt Klaassen on Dec 8, 2008 9:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Jayson Stark
Teams keep checking in on Greinke. And the Royals never quite get around to saying “nope,” “no way” or “absolutely not,” even though they really, really don’t want to move him. So indications are that, once again, Greinke is a name they’ll at least talk about this week. But judging by the theoretical sticker price, it’s obvious they have almost zero appetite for trading him. “Let me ask you something,” said an official of one team. “Would you give up three major league pieces and two top, top prospects for him? Because that’s what it would take.” The fact is, the Royals have higher expectations than ever and so little to build those aspirations around that they have to hold on to Greinke. And, oh-by-the-way, there’s not even any indication they want to deal David DeJesus or Mark Teahen, either. So who’s the most available Royal by far? Jose Guillen.

From here

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by Matt Klaassen on Dec 8, 2008 2:10 PM EST reply actions  

isn't that what i said in the inital post

=P

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by doublestix on Dec 8, 2008 5:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, but his is in a pretty blue box

checkmate

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by Scott McKinney on Dec 8, 2008 5:24 PM EST up reply actions  

isn't that from his first press conference after he signed

that has to be the only picture from that period where he looks over 14 years old

It’s nice that he’s finally hit puberty and No. 1-hood at the same time.

By the time he’s Jamie Moyer’s age, he’ll look like he’s in his prime

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by Matt Klaassen on Dec 8, 2008 9:16 PM EST up reply actions  

i think that was the interview

In the spring of 2007. Remember the one where he said he would answer any question about his depression problem that day, but then would never talk about it again in the public? I think that was it.

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by doublestix on Dec 9, 2008 12:10 AM EST up reply actions  

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