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Line-up and Starters Reults

Here are the results for Royals Review line-up and starters survey after 28 responses (if it gets to 40+ by Friday I will update it this weekend). I will give the results followed by some observations and comment on each sections. Overall I am not terribly surprised but the line-up is different than what Hillman seems to have planned. The starting five and the 6 in the bullpen had a pretty clear drop-off after the spots were filled. The formatting got a little messed up in the transfer from word, sorry.

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                Position votes    Overall votes
1.    David DeJesus         (21)        (28)
2.    Mark Grudzielanek     (12)         (25)
3.    Billy Butler         (9)         (28)
4.    Jose Guilen         (14)         (26)
5.    Alex Gordon         (8)         (28)
6.    Mark Teahan         (8)         (28)
7.    Ryan Shealy         (11)        (16)
8.    John Buck         (15)        (27)
9.    Tony Pena JR        (21)        (22)
Mark Teahan Had 8 votes in three different spots (2, 3, and 6) which probably reflects what people's views on his power potential is for the year and how they view his speed. One person went with 4 outfielders and no catcher. To me the most surprising was Shealy who had more votes for the 7 spot (11) than Gload the Exploder did overall (10). Joey Gathright received  3 votes (all for the leadoff spot) we should also try him at catcher because he was the apparent replacement for Buck on the one ballot that didn't have a catcher. Olivo received no votes which is a little surprising to me since he is essentially the same player as Buck. Gordon was in the most spots (7 of 9 , 1,2,3,4,5,6,9) with no other player being in more than 6.
On to the starters    (same format as above)
1.    Gil Meche        (25)        (28)
2.    Zack Greinke        (13)        (28)
3.    Brian Bannister        (14)        (28)
4.    Brett Tomko        (9)        (14)
5.    Luck Hocheaver    (11)        (16)
I considered doing the starting five by total votes after the top three but decided against it because 6th place  (De La Rosa) only had 8 total votes. I was surprised that both Tomko and Hocheaver made it because the overall view seemed to be that they would be in direct competition for that 5th spot. The Soria for starter campaign was also weaker than I thought it would be (1 vote). John Bale and Kyle Davies were also not as popular as I thought 3 and 5 votes respectively). Also Hideo Nomo and Roman Colon each got a vote.
The relievers
1.    Joakim Soria         (24)        (26)    (Closer)
2.    Yasuhiko Yabuta    (17)        (24)    (Set-up)
3.    Jimmy Gobble        (16)        (27)    (LOOGY)
4.    Leo Nunez        (7)        (12)     (Long Relief)
5.    Joel Peralta        (6)        (19)
6.    John Bale        (5)        (12)
The only real surprise reliever wise to me is that Mahay didn't make the 6 person bullpen, perhaps a reason to justify a 7 man pen? I was shocked that one person didn't vote for Soria in any capacity. No one latched onto the Tomko as closer idea floated by MLBTR.
Overall it was interesting to see how some guys had definite spots and others were all over the map. I would be ok with the roles that the voters put them in. On the line-up it would be great if Shealy could earn that 7 spot and to have Gordon hit well enough to justify the 5 hole rather than Hillman's view that he should be in the 7.
If anyone wants to see the full results email me and I will sent them to you. (Please make sure you can open exel files before you email me)

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I took the guy with the most votes at each spot.
I thought he might be a 5 and hocheaver the odd man out but there really wasn't that much competition. Davies only had a few votes, The tiawanese guy didn't have any and De La Rosa must have frustrated too many over the last year to gain traction.

by Skirra on Feb 4, 2008 3:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Luck Hochevar?
Clever typo!
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by RoyalsRetro on Feb 4, 2008 2:07 PM EST reply actions  

Why not Tomko in the rotation?
I think he's a fair bet to have an ERA at or below 5.00.  Let's look at the other contender:

Hochevar - Talent young pitcher, but after his 2007 season, I think he needs more time in the minors.  Let's not rush him to the majors out of desperation for a good starting pitcher.  Let's do what is best for his development so that he can be really good for the Royals in 2009 and beyond.  Hopefully he has a great first half in Omaha and gets called up sometime this summer.

Bale - Hard to say what he'd do as a starter.  He was a failed major league pitcher who went to Japan and pitched well.  He came back to America and had a pretty good season in limited work as a reliever only.  His ERA and peripherals were merely ok.  I have a hard time believing he'd be particularly good as a full-time starting pitcher.

De La Rosa - Lots of talent with flashes of brilliance in 2007.  He'll get some starts.  Hasn't really earned any particular role.  I think his future is as a long reliever.

Davies - Lots of talent but has never been able to put it together in many MLB starts.  Maybe he was rushed and maybe he'll finally figure out how to pitch.  I think his future is as a setup man/closer.

Nunez - Talented pitcher who did well in the majors in 2007.  But he usually did well for about 4 innings.  He doesn't really have the secondary pitches, strength or stamina to pitch 6 innings every 5th day.  I think he's a reliever.

Given the above, how would Tomko not make the starting rotation?

I probably disagree with you.

by Scott McKinney on Feb 4, 2008 3:08 PM EST reply actions  

Tomko and DelaRosa in the rotation
is my prediction for opening day.  Really think that Nunez will be dominate out of the bullpen.  One of the bullpen mix - Soria, Yabuta, Gobble, Mahay, Bale and Peralta will be on DL opening day.  It always happens!

The depth of pitching opens the way for a trade in ST.  KC also has Musser, Braun, Tsao, Duckworth, Hudson, Wright, Hochevar and Davies in AAA.  Carlos Rosa could be in the AAA rotation along with Tyler Lumsden.  

by daveyork on Feb 4, 2008 6:43 PM EST reply actions  

I agree
Tomko and DLR will both be in the rotation at the outset, but I'll bet money they are not starting by Memorial Day.
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by RoyalsRetro on Feb 4, 2008 6:49 PM EST up reply actions  

How does Tomko not make the rotation?
Well, if the Royals change their minds and decide to put Soria in the rotation.

Also, there's at least a small chance that somebody unexpected just overwhelms the Royals in the spring, and they decide Tomko can be productive in the pen, right?

Not likely, granted...

by loyal2s dad on Feb 5, 2008 4:02 PM EST reply actions  

True
There are possible scenarios where it doesn't happen, but I don't see how someone can argue that it is either unlikely that he'll be in the rotation or that it is a bad idea.
I probably disagree with you.

by Scott McKinney on Feb 5, 2008 4:08 PM EST up reply actions  

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