Spring Training Game 27 Open Thread- Roster Moves Edition
The Battle for Grass Creek resumes in particularly dramatic fashion as Gil Meche takes on his former team this afternoon in Arizona.
I just had the computer eat my post on JDLR/Tomko/Davies/Ramirez, etc. Which is probably for the best. I will say that I believe that using Spring Training performance (at least in JDLR's case) to determine these matters is less than ideal, and while we can't know for sure that that was the case, the timing strongly suggests as much. In last night's Game Thread I went on record as saying that I prefer'd JDLR to Tomko, but it really wasn't a strong preference. I've come to accept Tomko for what he is, a human arb-clock pause button for Hochevar, no more, no less. But above all else, he's our human arb-clock pause button, and so it's time to embrace him in all his park-factor aided glory.
As for Ramon Ramirez, check the diaries... all I could think of when hearing about the signing was the end of Wallace Stevens's poem "The Idea of Order at Key West". Stevens always said the Ramon Fernandez who appeared in the poem was purely a random name, so there's no reason why it can't become Ramon Ramirez:
RamonFernandezRamirez, tell me, if you know,
Why, when the singing ended and we turned
Toward the town, tell why the glassy lights,
The lights in the fishing boats at anchor there,
As the night descended, tilting in the air,
Mastered the night and portioned out the sea,
Fixing emblazoned zones and fiery poles,
Arranging, deepening, enchanting night.
If you have a BP subscription, check out Will Carroll's (friend of Sterger and friend of RR) Team Health Report on the Royals, whom he ranks as the 27th healthiest team over the last three seasons. Not good.
Recognizing that health is something that seemingly any team can decide to make better by making a small organizational commitment and an only slightly larger budgetary commitment makes it even more frustrating that a mid-market team would be on the trailing edge. The facts show that the Royals, among many other problems, still have this one to deal with. "One of these days I'm going to lay this hammer down," Steve Earle sings. Today is not that day.
Notably, Carroll ranks Guillen and Greinke as a red-light risks. Meche and Banny are yellows.
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While I'd like to see...
by timlacy on Mar 26, 2008 3:45 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
couldn't resist the line
think it is, but am not sure given Hochevar's unqiue contract
by royalsreview on Mar 26, 2008 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
should be, yes
by LeoBloom on Mar 26, 2008 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
who cares if it is true
by buddyball on Mar 26, 2008 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
RUMOR: Huber traded to San Diego
Hopefully, the long Huber nightmare will soon be over.
by NYRoyal on Mar 26, 2008 3:48 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i'll cheer her up
by LeoBloom on Mar 26, 2008 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You can not even see her face.
by TXroyal on Mar 26, 2008 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
look at the shoes though
by FireBell on Mar 26, 2008 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If true

by RoyalsRetro on Mar 26, 2008 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Farewell, young Aussie
by buddyball on Mar 26, 2008 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Any other name mentioned
by powderbluesfor08 on Mar 26, 2008 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No names yet...except Huber
by NYRoyal on Mar 26, 2008 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
They
by I need more Esteban on Mar 26, 2008 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
But can he hurdle an upright man? or car?
by powderbluesfor08 on Mar 26, 2008 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So technically
by RoyalsRetro on Mar 26, 2008 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
the flurry of PTBNL trades is interesting
by DC Royal on Mar 26, 2008 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I am a player to be named
by LeoBloom on Mar 26, 2008 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Royals
-Ramon Ramirez is supposedly in the teams plans to pitch out of the bullpen right away. Talked a lot about his injury last year and how his stuff is pretty electric. Colorado had once though of him as a future closer. Hopefully he can stay healthy.
This just shows something that I mentioned during the middle of spring training.
Why is it assumed that our bullpen will be a strength? Seems like the Royals aren't sure either. I see some names there but mostly it feels like a crapshoot right now.
Also, they've been discussing that Tomko will be left out of the first run through the rotation. Meaning, if Bannister is number 2, that Greinke would be pitching opening day at the K. I love that.
by I need more Esteban on Mar 26, 2008 3:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
JDLR's fate
by RoyalsRetro on Mar 26, 2008 3:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
likely, yes
by royalsreview on Mar 26, 2008 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Guys, don't expect much in the Huber trade
by NYRoyal on Mar 26, 2008 4:02 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
by RoyalsRetro on Mar 26, 2008 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
We may have to throw in Berroa then
by NYRoyal on Mar 26, 2008 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Question
I haven't heard much about him lately.
by I need more Esteban on Mar 26, 2008 4:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Ducky
by NYRoyal on Mar 26, 2008 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Huber dealt
by RoyalsRetro on Mar 26, 2008 4:08 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Brian Lawrence released as well
by NYRoyal on Mar 26, 2008 4:09 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Brian Lawrence released

by RoyalsRetro on Mar 26, 2008 4:09 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Looks like the guy
by powderbluesfor08 on Mar 26, 2008 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
we appear to be down 4-0...
by Sean O Se on Mar 26, 2008 4:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Lots of bloops it sounds like
by RoyalsRetro on Mar 26, 2008 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is ugly. It will be tough to put a
by hardyguy on Mar 26, 2008 4:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
it's a meaningless exhibition game
by NYRoyal on Mar 26, 2008 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
thank you for clearing that up for me.
by hardyguy on Mar 26, 2008 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You're very welcome
by NYRoyal on Mar 26, 2008 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What did Grudz use to call it -
by hardyguy on Mar 26, 2008 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe he'll take you under his wing
by NYRoyal on Mar 26, 2008 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
agreed -- Huber add minimal value
But this is the year of Butler, so I guess this makes sense now. Just wish we could have actually given him a shot at some point -- who knows, it could have boosted his trade value?
by marbotty on Mar 26, 2008 4:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
btw, the link to the team health report
by marbotty on Mar 26, 2008 4:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
roster insanity!
by LeoBloom on Mar 26, 2008 4:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Finally!
by Bluemen on Mar 26, 2008 4:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Thanks
But then you reminded me that we still have Jason Smith and all is right with the world. Jason will protect us. Jason will keep us safe.
by RoyalsRetro on Mar 26, 2008 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have a Huber diary posted
Huber no more.
by royalsreview on Mar 26, 2008 4:34 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Look it from his viewpoint
by hardyguy on Mar 26, 2008 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
San Diego
by RoyalsRetro on Mar 26, 2008 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
All right Gil,
by hardyguy on Mar 26, 2008 4:37 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
meche is too emotional
by FireBell on Mar 26, 2008 4:38 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I am back with a beer and sandwich and
by Bluemen on Mar 26, 2008 4:40 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Correlation?
by RoyalsRetro on Mar 26, 2008 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Doubt it
by hardyguy on Mar 26, 2008 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
then you must quit your job
by marbotty on Mar 26, 2008 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Can I call dibs on beer drinking
by TXroyal on Mar 26, 2008 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pitching rotation
If so, that would mean Bannister would have to go on 3 days rest on Sunday the 6th. (not likely to happen)
March 31: Meche
April 1: OFF DAY
April 2: Bannister
April 3: Greinke
April 4: Bale
April 5: Meche, presumably
April 6: Tomko or Bannister on 3 days rest?
April 7: OFF DAY
April 8: Bannister or Greinke?
by loyal2s dad on Mar 26, 2008 4:46 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Olivo And Smith
by philofthenorth on Mar 26, 2008 4:48 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Mitch Maier
by philofthenorth on Mar 26, 2008 4:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Sounds like Smith...
Anyone can hit it over the wall. It takes real skill to go around the bases while keeping the ball in play.
by RoyalsFanInBillings on Mar 26, 2008 4:52 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
oops...
by RoyalsFanInBillings on Mar 26, 2008 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bedard will be testing the validity of
Seriously, if you're the Mariners, don't you have to be a bit concerned with him, even if it is only spring training? He shouldn't be getting lit up this badly, even if he is just "getting in his work".
by loyal2s dad on Mar 26, 2008 4:55 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
One thing
by I need more Esteban on Mar 26, 2008 5:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
All The Huber
Kansas City AB R H RBI BB SO LOB AVG
Gathright, CF 2 0 0 0 0 1 0 .333
Maier, CF 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .195
Grudzielanek, 2B 1 0 0 0 0 1 0 .077
Teahen, LF 1 0 1 0 0 0 0 .300
Guillen, RF 1 0 0 0 0 0 1 .150
Butler, DH 0 1 0 0 1 0 0 .373
Olivo, C 1 1 1 2 0 0 0 .321
Gload, 1B 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 .273
Smith, 3B 1 1 1 1 0 0 0 .325
Pena, T, SS 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 .250
Totals 9 3 3 3 1 2 1
Where will Smith end up?
by philofthenorth on Mar 26, 2008 4:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Where will Smith end up?
by marbotty on Mar 26, 2008 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That Makes More
by philofthenorth on Mar 26, 2008 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
put an s between the p and t then include
by Bluemen on Mar 26, 2008 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
time for another beer.
by Bluemen on Mar 26, 2008 4:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
That Looks Like
by philofthenorth on Mar 26, 2008 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hey, you try to balance a laptop, chips,
by Bluemen on Mar 26, 2008 5:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Who put lube on the ball?
by Bluemen on Mar 26, 2008 5:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
All the way to the wall and Butler strains
by Bluemen on Mar 26, 2008 5:13 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Okay... this is my first time...
by Bluemen on Mar 26, 2008 5:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
again, royals 3 runs on 3 hits,
by Sean O Se on Mar 26, 2008 5:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I Think I'll
by philofthenorth on Mar 26, 2008 5:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i think when future generations look back at
by marbotty on Mar 26, 2008 5:24 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Okay, who is he? With all that hair he must
by Bluemen on Mar 26, 2008 5:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I Take It
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHg5SJYRHA0
by philofthenorth on Mar 26, 2008 5:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
German to play in the OF in the absence
by hardyguy on Mar 26, 2008 5:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Especially In RF
by philofthenorth on Mar 26, 2008 5:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Moore and Hillman building a lineup
by royalsreview on Mar 26, 2008 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i think that's my cue to go to bed
by marbotty on Mar 26, 2008 5:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
4 Hits, All
by philofthenorth on Mar 26, 2008 5:34 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I already said it once and though the
by Bluemen on Mar 26, 2008 5:47 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
But You Know
by philofthenorth on Mar 26, 2008 5:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nunez has looked good this ST.
by Bluemen on Mar 26, 2008 5:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Mech Ends ST
by philofthenorth on Mar 26, 2008 5:53 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
OK, That's Meche
by philofthenorth on Mar 26, 2008 5:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wilkerson And Sexson
by philofthenorth on Mar 26, 2008 5:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
More Pop From
by philofthenorth on Mar 26, 2008 6:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Wow, not one but two in one game
by Bluemen on Mar 26, 2008 6:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
it is a stunningly pretty day
by Sean O Se on Mar 26, 2008 6:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
It is sort of ugly here in Fargo.
by Bluemen on Mar 26, 2008 6:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Beautiful Here Except
http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/getForecast?query=99635
Scroll to the bottom for various local reports.
by philofthenorth on Mar 26, 2008 6:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Listening to these games could be
by Bluemen on Mar 26, 2008 6:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
You Must Be
by philofthenorth on Mar 26, 2008 6:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
last three at bats!
by Sean O Se on Mar 26, 2008 6:36 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
More Extra Base
by philofthenorth on Mar 26, 2008 6:39 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The Devil Is
by philofthenorth on Mar 26, 2008 6:40 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Oh
by Jackhomeduring on Mar 26, 2008 9:35 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

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