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Game 10 Open Thread - Twins (4-5) at Royals (6-3)

Minnesota Twins at Kansas City Royals, Apr 11, 2008 8:10 PM EDT


The Royals resume hostilities with the Twins tonight, taking another crack at Livan Hernandez (please say in John Miller voice), a pitcher they made look like a Cy Young candidate last weekend.

Facing off against Livan is the designated #1 of the staff, Gil Meche (6.94 ERA) who lost control of a decent outing in that same weekend series mentioned above.

Do the Royals return to hackfest against the Twins? We'll see.

I'll be at a wedding tonight, so the site is in your hands. Let's win this one for Greg Gagne. And don't forget, Royals Review t-shirts are still available, so order yours today in time for RR Fest at the K, April 26.

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Let's hope to see the Royals do a better job

of working the count and making Hernandez pitch. Livan will carve them up if we do the first pitch swing routine like we do with the Twins.

Just a side note - hear interview with Buster Olney from ESPN. He thought the Royals would be a factor in the pennant race all through the summer. The front line pitching can stack up the "big boys." I think "relevant" was the word he used for the Royals - wow, that coming from an ESPN guy is high praise.

by daveyork on Apr 11, 2008 7:04 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Callaspo!!!!!!!

Twins
1. Carlos Gomez CF
2. Matt Tolbert SS
3. Joe Mauer C
4. Justin Morneau 1B
5. Delmon Young LF
6. Jason Kubel DH
7. Brendan Harris 2B
8. Mike Lamb 3B
9. Denard Span RF

Royals
1. Joey Gathright CF
2. Mark Grudzielanek 2B
3. Mark Teahen LF
4. Jose Guillen RF
5. Billy Butler DH
6. Alex Gordon 3B
7. Ross Gload 1B
8. John Buck C
9. Alberto Callaspo SS

Still no DDJ though.

by MkeRoyal on Apr 11, 2008 7:06 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Don't really get batting Butler fifth

He seems like your prototypical #3 hitter, both for old school baseball guys and for stat geeks. Still, its a much better lineup than Buddy ever employed.

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by RoyalsRetro on Apr 11, 2008 7:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Callaspo In The

9 hole=a true second leadoff hitter. I hope he handles the SS duties reasonably well; I'm convinced he'll hit.

Let's go, boys, to the toppermost of the poppermost!

by philofthenorth on Apr 11, 2008 8:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Has anyone noticed that Hillman is almost the

opposite of Buddy when it comes to making out the lineup? This lineup looks like the standard for the first two weeks. When DDJ comes back, Gathright is out and let's hope Callaspo sees more time than Pena.

Have to imagine if and when Joey G. goes back to the 4th OF roll and spells Teahen or Guillen - Gathright will bat 8th.

Would Hillman look at keeping Gathright leading off when DDJ is in the lineup? What kind of production would DDJ have lower in the order?

by daveyork on Apr 11, 2008 7:18 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Pitching note

Francisco Liriano will be activated for Sunday's start. Grrr!!

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by RoyalsRetro on Apr 11, 2008 7:36 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Chuckle

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Apr 11, 2008 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dayton is an idiot

He should have never given up on those two guys!!!!!

< / sarcasm>

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by RoyalsRetro on Apr 11, 2008 7:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nunez And Soria

For Sweeney and Brown............yeah, that's the ticket!

Let's go, boys, to the toppermost of the poppermost!

by philofthenorth on Apr 11, 2008 8:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I love it

Trey working one-on-one with Billy at first base.

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on Apr 11, 2008 8:08 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Looked like

Lou Brown hitting grounders at Roger Dorn

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by RoyalsRetro on Apr 11, 2008 8:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The wind chill was 13 in Saint Joseph

Today and it may be less than that right now. Anyone at the K right now is more hardcore of a fan than me.

by royaldaddy on Apr 11, 2008 8:11 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Hopefully Meche

will look better tonight. I think his PAP hangover is has been a bit of a factor thus far this season.

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Apr 11, 2008 8:11 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Big PAPI?

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by RoyalsRetro on Apr 11, 2008 8:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

PAPelbon?

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on Apr 11, 2008 8:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

You guys are hilarious :P

Pitcher Abuse Points, plus the raw innings increase, had me guessing that Meche would start slowly.

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by NHZ on Apr 11, 2008 8:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ahhh

Thank you for clarifying. How do they judge PAP?

by royaldaddy on Apr 11, 2008 8:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

A stoned Paula Abdul?

"Straight up now tell me how many innings you pitched this year."

by royaldaddy on Apr 11, 2008 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

American Idol

Worst. Show. Ever.

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by NHZ on Apr 11, 2008 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Slightly arbitrary,

because there ARE some pitchers who can handle high pitch counts regularly, but basically the different pitch counts of each start are assigned to a category. The higher the category, the more pitches thrown, and the worse for the pitcher's arm (or so the thinking goes). Meche was 11th in all of baseball in PAP last year. That's high to begin with, but then there's the fact that Gilgameche had never exactly been a workhorse.

Link.

Glossary

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by NHZ on Apr 11, 2008 8:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Glad Grudzielanek is back in the lineup.

His grittyness was sorely missing from yesterdays offence.

Let's Go Blues!

by powderbluesfor08 on Apr 11, 2008 8:12 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Twins looking to hire

Joey Gathright as a hitting insructor

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by RoyalsRetro on Apr 11, 2008 8:13 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Oh please

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by NHZ on Apr 11, 2008 8:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

How else can you expain

Bunting the first two hitters?

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by RoyalsRetro on Apr 11, 2008 8:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ron Gardenhire is an irrational love for speed guy?

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by NHZ on Apr 11, 2008 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Carlos Gomez is out

Good start. Gomez has already been overrated by those with irrational love for speedy-lead-off-guy-without-power skill sets.

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Apr 11, 2008 8:13 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Have you considered rehab?

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Apr 11, 2008 8:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It all started with Willie Wilson

He was my favorite Royal not named George Brett. From there, you can't turn back. You start liking Rickey Henderson and move on to Jose Reyes and Carl Crawford. I have a problem.

by royaldaddy on Apr 11, 2008 8:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

But Reyes and Crawford

are five tool guys, really. That's easy to understand. I just have a hard time figuring out what people like about marginal speedsters like Gathright and Gomez and the like.

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by NHZ on Apr 11, 2008 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

They're "exciting"

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on Apr 11, 2008 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

arent people projecting gomez to develop a decent amount of power...i dont anyone's predicting him to be the next joey gathright.

by billybeingbilly on Apr 11, 2008 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Some are

some, like me, think it's a bit silly to count on him suddenly developing another skill.

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Apr 11, 2008 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I must admit

I know that speed is wildly overrated, but aesthetically, it makes for a much more exciting game.

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by RoyalsRetro on Apr 11, 2008 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Right,

but that doesn't necessarily equate to being a better player. I like stolen bases and great defense too, but I'll take the guy with the higher OBP over the scrapper anyday.

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by NHZ on Apr 11, 2008 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Of course

I'm talking about what's good for winning vs. what makes for exciting baseball.

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by RoyalsRetro on Apr 11, 2008 8:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes

Unfortunately, many sportswriters don't know the difference.

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by NHZ on Apr 11, 2008 8:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

while playing in High School, I was a tall, lanky

kid who shouldn't have been stealing, but I was always running. It's like the rush some people get from stealing or skydiving. In college, coaches don't think it's so funny.

by royaldaddy on Apr 11, 2008 8:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Chien Ming Wang

Has a perfect game thru 4 IP against Boston.

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by RoyalsRetro on Apr 11, 2008 8:14 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Callaspo

just made a hell of a play. Too bad TPJ isn't out there to make it better. :p

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on Apr 11, 2008 8:15 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Callaspo looked pretty good on that play

I'd like to at least see how he can handle short. It is after all, a rebuilding year.

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by RoyalsRetro on Apr 11, 2008 8:15 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

What I wanted to add

in addition to my thoughts in the debate thread, was that THT says Callaspo has done well in a small sample size. Still, hard to conclude much from that.

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by NHZ on Apr 11, 2008 8:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

In Tonight's Tiny

Sample so far he looks very good.

Let's go, boys, to the toppermost of the poppermost!

by philofthenorth on Apr 11, 2008 8:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good for him :)

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by NHZ on Apr 11, 2008 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That Does It!

Butler bunts 4 times tonight.

Let's go, boys, to the toppermost of the poppermost!

by philofthenorth on Apr 11, 2008 8:16 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I Hit Preview

And forgot to post this; it should have been after the bunt single.

Let's go, boys, to the toppermost of the poppermost!

by philofthenorth on Apr 11, 2008 8:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

There goes Teahen

clogging the bases again.

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on Apr 11, 2008 8:23 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

What Is This

Base on balls thing?

Let's go, boys, to the toppermost of the poppermost!

by philofthenorth on Apr 11, 2008 8:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

No Hackfest today!

Another great walk by Teahen. I'm really impressed by his plate discipline.

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by RoyalsRetro on Apr 11, 2008 8:23 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Okay, someone please tell me...

how has FSN not come up with a way to put a camera in CF without having issues with the water? Seems easy, raise the dude up on a lift or something, right?

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by MileHighKCfan on Apr 11, 2008 8:24 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

dont know

but i am not a fan of this camera angle

by royalsfan03 on Apr 11, 2008 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Time for Jose to bust this slump

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by NHZ on Apr 11, 2008 8:24 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Batting Order / DeJesus

Does anyone know with any level of certainty what the lineup will look like when dejesus gets back.

Of special interest, will Hillman play Teahen at first 1-2 times a week with an outfield of gathright, dejesus and guillen?

Another way of putting it, is Teahen our backup 1B?

by kcinstl on Apr 11, 2008 8:25 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Really have no idea

not like we have any precedence set with Hillman yet

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by MileHighKCfan on Apr 11, 2008 8:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not So Far

Let's go, boys, to the toppermost of the poppermost!

by philofthenorth on Apr 11, 2008 8:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

while im not a big fan of teahen at first...

i think gathright > gload. which is basically what the trade off is, so whatevs.

by rockchalk on Apr 11, 2008 8:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I would guess

Gathright finds himself on the bench, probably finding a way in the lineup 2-3 times a week. I mean, he's hitting .189.

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by RoyalsRetro on Apr 11, 2008 8:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

true

but i don't think gload bast .333 all year or that gathright bats .189 either

by kcinstl on Apr 11, 2008 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sure

But Gathright is probably a .270 hitter with little propensity to walk and no power. And that really hasn't changed. Its better to have Gload in the lineup than Gathright.

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by RoyalsRetro on Apr 11, 2008 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hopefully Gator

will spell DDJ every-so-often, because DDJ is the better player, he shown he could use a rest every week, and Gathright is really just a good fourth OF. Ross Gload is the better hitter between him and Gathright...talk about damning with faint praise.

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by NHZ on Apr 11, 2008 8:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Or not

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Apr 11, 2008 8:26 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

He's had slow starts before

hopefully Livan can get him going.

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by NHZ on Apr 11, 2008 8:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He's had slow years before too

Let's hope he can heat up with the weather.

by royaldaddy on Apr 11, 2008 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

His "slow years" seem to have come

either before his breakout or when he was injured, so with any luck he should be able to shake off his .150ish start.

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Apr 11, 2008 8:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

This Is Serious

Shit weather in KC tonight; it's far better here.

Let's go, boys, to the toppermost of the poppermost!

by philofthenorth on Apr 11, 2008 8:28 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

No kidding

Finally supposed to get 80 degrees weather next week - of course the boys in blue will be on the west coast.

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by RoyalsRetro on Apr 11, 2008 8:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Gillie Sets Up

The DP with no one out; who would suspect that? Inscrutable.

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by philofthenorth on Apr 11, 2008 8:30 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Sit Down

Young man!

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by philofthenorth on Apr 11, 2008 8:32 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Ticky-tacky?

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by RoyalsRetro on Apr 11, 2008 8:33 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Did you here the other dude (is that stewart?)

Tell Split to pull his finger. My son and I almost fell out of our chairs.

Finally coming back to the 'K'!!!! I'm going to be there 7/11/08, vs the SEA Mariners, of course!

by RoyalsFanInMarinerTown on Apr 11, 2008 8:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

How have we not heard more about the additions to the training staff

that Paul and Ryan are talking about on the TV broadcast.

by Skirra on Apr 11, 2008 8:34 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Buck Had No

Chance there.

Let's go, boys, to the toppermost of the poppermost!

by philofthenorth on Apr 11, 2008 8:34 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Wish I could watch THIS game

Le Sox are getting no hit in the fifth.

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by NHZ on Apr 11, 2008 8:34 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

that was a quick end

drew homered to snap it

by kcinstl on Apr 11, 2008 8:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I couldn't be happier for J.D. Drew

after last year's struggles and then his big role the post-season. I've never bought into the idea that he's a jerk because he's reserved, so it's nice to see Fenway off his back and him playing well.

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by NHZ on Apr 11, 2008 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Is that fucking Joey G out there on the basepaths???

Come on!!

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by MileHighKCfan on Apr 11, 2008 8:35 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Sick of this camera, this sucks!

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by MileHighKCfan on Apr 11, 2008 8:36 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Blah

I don't think Meche's hangover is gone

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by NHZ on Apr 11, 2008 8:37 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Gil is just playing the odds...

the chace of getting someone out is greater when you can throw to damn near any base.

Let's Go Blues!

by powderbluesfor08 on Apr 11, 2008 8:37 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

GIDP Time

Set up by another Meche BB.

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by philofthenorth on Apr 11, 2008 8:38 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Thank god for small favors

such as the Twins thinking Mike Lamb = starting 3B.

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by NHZ on Apr 11, 2008 8:38 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

What, No DP?

Bad strategy with the K.

Let's go, boys, to the toppermost of the poppermost!

by philofthenorth on Apr 11, 2008 8:39 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Shhh

Gilgameche has a plan...

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by NHZ on Apr 11, 2008 8:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Was that it?

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on Apr 11, 2008 8:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes

He's lulling them into a false sense of security.

And proving, I think, that I was right to complain about him not getting shut down at the end of the year. The ghost of Buddy Bell laughs at me.

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Apr 11, 2008 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Teahen misunderstood the plan.

Proud father of a budding Royals fan.

by Skirra on Apr 11, 2008 8:42 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Are you f'in me

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by MileHighKCfan on Apr 11, 2008 8:42 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Of course,

"I don't think much of his power prospects" does not mean that Gomez can't double in two runs. Fudge.

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by NHZ on Apr 11, 2008 8:43 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Should have been out

and out of the inning with 1 run

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by MileHighKCfan on Apr 11, 2008 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Bad OF play by Teahen, I guess?

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by NHZ on Apr 11, 2008 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Teahen

Looked pretty Emilish on that play

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by RoyalsRetro on Apr 11, 2008 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Who Expected That

From Gomez the 2 strike bunter?

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by philofthenorth on Apr 11, 2008 8:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Tolbert Is A

Golden God again.

Let's go, boys, to the toppermost of the poppermost!

by philofthenorth on Apr 11, 2008 8:45 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Meche Executes His

Plan 3 outs too late.

Let's go, boys, to the toppermost of the poppermost!

by philofthenorth on Apr 11, 2008 8:47 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Make That 3

Hitters, not outs.

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by philofthenorth on Apr 11, 2008 8:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Meche ERA

8.56

Free agent bust!

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by RoyalsRetro on Apr 11, 2008 8:47 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Small sample size fun!

Meche ERA = 8.56

David Ortiz BA = .079

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by NHZ on Apr 11, 2008 8:47 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Shameless plug

But I'm now in the midst of a super-awesome Red Sox dynasty, circa 2005!

by Royals Nation on Apr 11, 2008 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

"I love Nixon's grit and the way he handles the bat, but we've got to get Payton his playing time against right-handers, given his success against them in the past," said General Manager Jack Dempsey. "Although I wish we had Ross Gload of the Chicago White Sox....I love me some Gloadie."

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by NHZ on Apr 11, 2008 8:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hey, that's tampering.

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on Apr 11, 2008 8:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Maybe we can make a trade

Meche for Ortiz. Trade our bust for their bust.

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by RoyalsRetro on Apr 11, 2008 8:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Heh,

good try.

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by NHZ on Apr 11, 2008 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Butler Was Actually

Going backwards legging that one out.

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by philofthenorth on Apr 11, 2008 8:50 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

We learned about that thingy in calculus

where, mathematically, you can keep going halfway to a place without ever actually getting there. Only it doesn't work in real life, except when Billy Ray Butler is running.

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by NHZ on Apr 11, 2008 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well,...

at least TPJ aint battn next.

Let's Go Blues!

by powderbluesfor08 on Apr 11, 2008 8:56 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

It Does Feel

Good, doesn't it.

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by philofthenorth on Apr 11, 2008 8:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Buck Hit That

On the screws.

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by philofthenorth on Apr 11, 2008 8:56 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

TPJ

woulda homered there, I know it.

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on Apr 11, 2008 8:56 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Pena coulda done that.

Actually, I kinda doubt his ability to hit a grounder that hard.

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by RoyalsRetro on Apr 11, 2008 8:57 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

a soft grounder would have been better actually

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by MileHighKCfan on Apr 11, 2008 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Get him in there!

Pinch hit for Gathright!

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by NHZ on Apr 11, 2008 8:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Damn

That wasn't good.

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by NHZ on Apr 11, 2008 8:57 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Well

early bullpen call?

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by MileHighKCfan on Apr 11, 2008 8:59 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Why? This One's

Toast. Meche needs the work, apparently.

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by philofthenorth on Apr 11, 2008 8:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

No way

Meche is "the ace," so he'll suffer through five. Hopefully he can find a groove...he needs one.

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Apr 11, 2008 9:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think your longman is Nomo

I can't think of anybody else that we could call on for 3-4 innings.

by royaldaddy on Apr 11, 2008 9:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ramon Ramirez

Is a former starter. I don't think he's worked in awhile.

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by RoyalsRetro on Apr 11, 2008 9:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Peralta...

uh, wait.

Let's Go Blues!

by powderbluesfor08 on Apr 11, 2008 9:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

You underestimate

Gil's grit. And guttiness. Which is kinda like grit.

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by RoyalsRetro on Apr 11, 2008 9:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Crap!

I feel double sorry for the fans down there tonight.

by royaldaddy on Apr 11, 2008 8:59 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

In Japan,

the last batter in the lineup must swing at everything.

Let's Go Blues!

by powderbluesfor08 on Apr 11, 2008 9:00 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Morneau owns Gilly

Damn Canadians.

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by RoyalsRetro on Apr 11, 2008 9:00 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

I miss

Aaron Guiel. :/

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on Apr 11, 2008 9:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I recommeded that comment :P

What does that actually do, do we know?

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Apr 11, 2008 9:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think I win a gold star

Or I get into the college of my choice or something.

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by RoyalsRetro on Apr 11, 2008 9:01 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

If I post my lottery numbers

and someone recommends it, will I win?

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by jonfmorse on Apr 11, 2008 9:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes

The 10 cents lottery, though.

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by NHZ on Apr 11, 2008 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

If you give everyone recommendations

It cheapens it, just like the BCS bowl system.

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by RoyalsRetro on Apr 11, 2008 9:04 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

You're right

I recommended your comment as a warning.

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by NHZ on Apr 11, 2008 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Gah Terry Francona's misplaced loyalty:

"Mike Timlin replaces Clay Buchholz"

"Jason Giambi homers (1) on a fly ball to centerfield. None out."

"Jose Molina doubles on a fly ball to left. None out."

"Mound visit."

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Apr 11, 2008 9:04 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Shouldn't have DFAed Kyle Snyder

Karma will bite you when you drop ex-Royals.

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by RoyalsRetro on Apr 11, 2008 9:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

You mean Timlin's not an ex-Royal?

I thought he'd pitched for everyone by now. Either way, he looks done.

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by NHZ on Apr 11, 2008 9:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He's only played for six teams

No Mike Morgan, he.

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by jonfmorse on Apr 11, 2008 9:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wow

He has been relatively stable for a reliever then, especially one who's pitched for two decades.

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by NHZ on Apr 11, 2008 9:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Anyway, there's a dinger

5-0 Twinkies.

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by NHZ on Apr 11, 2008 9:04 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Recommended

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Apr 11, 2008 9:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ow

I would never want a ball to hit me where that ball hit Gil, I'm just sayin'.

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by jonfmorse on Apr 11, 2008 9:05 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

He put his hand back there right before getting hit and I remember

my father saying, "Move you hand. It will only hurt worse."

by royaldaddy on Apr 11, 2008 9:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Steal first Joey!

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by RoyalsRetro on Apr 11, 2008 9:06 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

You can't...oh never mind

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by NHZ on Apr 11, 2008 9:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yabuta up in the Silverstein Eye Center Bullpen

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by RoyalsRetro on Apr 11, 2008 9:06 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Nice

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by RoyalsRetro on Apr 11, 2008 9:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

With any luck,

the second full time through the order will be good to the Royals versus Hernandez.

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by NHZ on Apr 11, 2008 9:11 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I'm glad the Royals have finally decided to squelch the illusion that they are a contending team.

You can't regularly look this pathetic against the Twins and be a good team.

by MkeRoyal on Apr 11, 2008 9:14 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Whoa there

slightly overly negative, maybe?

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by NHZ on Apr 11, 2008 9:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

We Aren't Going

To score tonight, are we?

Let's go, boys, to the toppermost of the poppermost!

by philofthenorth on Apr 11, 2008 9:15 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

No. Unless Gathright hits 6 inside the park home runs.

by MkeRoyal on Apr 11, 2008 9:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm thinking of going to the bar

so I might.

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by jonfmorse on Apr 11, 2008 9:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Brilliant.

An optimist amongst us.

by stuckinstl12 on Apr 11, 2008 9:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Giggle

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by NHZ on Apr 11, 2008 9:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Woo Hoo!!!

5 runs, 3 K's. Good times.

Let's go, boys, to the toppermost of the poppermost!

by philofthenorth on Apr 11, 2008 9:16 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

4 K's!

Peripherals improving; that counts, right?

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by philofthenorth on Apr 11, 2008 9:18 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

For something, yea

I'm thinking that hangover might manifest in a tendency to give up more hits, whereas the peripherals will stay approximately the same.

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by NHZ on Apr 11, 2008 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

If only Gil can convince the umpires now

that he was under the impression that the first 3 innings were just warm-ups tonight.

The "freezing wind-chill rule." Look it up

by MkeRoyal on Apr 11, 2008 9:20 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Nice knock by Gordon

And good hustle. He's starting to heat up!

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by RoyalsRetro on Apr 11, 2008 9:22 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Gordon for MVP!

He's gotta get it for his work against Cy Young Livan.

by MkeRoyal on Apr 11, 2008 9:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thataway, Gordo

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by NHZ on Apr 11, 2008 9:22 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I love seeing Alex put it together.

Had he started like this last year, he'd have been all over ESPN for months.

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by jonfmorse on Apr 11, 2008 9:22 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Not a chance

ESPN is only aware of things that happen east of the Hudson River.

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by RoyalsRetro on Apr 11, 2008 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Or west of the San Joaquin River.

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by jonfmorse on Apr 11, 2008 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Bucky leads the league

in foul line-drives into the left field bleachers.

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by jonfmorse on Apr 11, 2008 9:23 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Bad Gload

C'mon Buck!

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by NHZ on Apr 11, 2008 9:23 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I Love The

Opposite field approach; eventually they'll stop pitching him out there all the time.

Let's go, boys, to the toppermost of the poppermost!

by philofthenorth on Apr 11, 2008 9:23 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Initials GB?

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by philofthenorth on Apr 11, 2008 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Uh-huh.

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by jonfmorse on Apr 11, 2008 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ugh

Three down.

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by NHZ on Apr 11, 2008 9:26 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I really hate the first week of the season

it is nothing but downhill from there. Okay, I'm done with my negativity....for awhile.

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by MileHighKCfan on Apr 11, 2008 9:27 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

It's Still Early

The bats will warm up.

Let's go, boys, to the toppermost of the poppermost!

by philofthenorth on Apr 11, 2008 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ricoh

Makes me think of Uncle Rico - who is a Royals fan!

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by RoyalsRetro on Apr 11, 2008 9:28 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

The Leadoff Walk

Again; more strategery.

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by philofthenorth on Apr 11, 2008 9:30 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Gil will make the Twins batters forget strikes even exist. Then, BAM!

I forget what step 2 of the strategy is.

by MkeRoyal on Apr 11, 2008 9:32 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Steal underpants?

Sorry, South Park reference.

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by RoyalsRetro on Apr 11, 2008 9:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Let the legend of Matt Tolbert begin

Gritty, gutty, does the little things to win, and most importantly, he's white.

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by RoyalsRetro on Apr 11, 2008 9:30 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Of course

when you have a .600 OBP, you're not exactly David Eckstein either. :/

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by jonfmorse on Apr 11, 2008 9:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Did somebody say "regression"?

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by NHZ on Apr 11, 2008 9:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I bet Eck

hasn't had a .600 OBP over nine games ever!

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by jonfmorse on Apr 11, 2008 9:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dear Ryan

I believe your "sixth tool" is called "a brain".

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by jonfmorse on Apr 11, 2008 9:33 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

What are the five tools?

Power, contact, speed, defense, baserunning?

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by RoyalsRetro on Apr 11, 2008 9:34 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Speed, defense, arm, hit for power, hit for average

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by jonfmorse on Apr 11, 2008 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks

Let's add "feel for the game"

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by RoyalsRetro on Apr 11, 2008 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I still like "a brain" better.

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by jonfmorse on Apr 11, 2008 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

What about

"playing the right way"?

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by NHZ on Apr 11, 2008 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

But what

If his skill comes from his "gut"? To paraphrase Stephen Colbert, I don't believe facts, I believe in my gut.

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by RoyalsRetro on Apr 11, 2008 9:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Splitt, that's why

Scouts are often wrong, and stats are more accurate.

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by RoyalsRetro on Apr 11, 2008 9:36 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

IBB to Morneau

Best pitches he's thrown tonight

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by MileHighKCfan on Apr 11, 2008 9:37 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Finally, the walk works

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by jonfmorse on Apr 11, 2008 9:37 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

that made me laugh

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by MileHighKCfan on Apr 11, 2008 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Apparently It Must

Be an IBB; make note to self.

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by philofthenorth on Apr 11, 2008 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm going to write a book one day called

"The Super-Secret Walk Strategy: How Gil Meche Came to Dominate the American League With Counter-intuition"

by MkeRoyal on Apr 11, 2008 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

DP!

Meche's strategery works!

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by NHZ on Apr 11, 2008 9:38 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

three runs this inning and I'd actually....

feel like we have a pretty decent shot

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by MileHighKCfan on Apr 11, 2008 9:42 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Callaspo single

hit him cleanup. Now.

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by NHZ on Apr 11, 2008 9:42 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I hate this camera angle

Damn it! You can't tell if they're going to be hits or not.

by royaldaddy on Apr 11, 2008 9:42 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Gator up to .205

Rally caps!

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by NHZ on Apr 11, 2008 9:43 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Personally, I think he'll be

just fine, but they've got to get him the ABs. He can't improve from the bench.

by royaldaddy on Apr 11, 2008 9:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Grudz Shoulda Bunted

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by philofthenorth on Apr 11, 2008 9:43 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Seriously?

It's hardly ever a good idea to bunt when losing.

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by NHZ on Apr 11, 2008 9:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I Know You

Metric folk would love that; looking back, it would have been better.

Let's go, boys, to the toppermost of the poppermost!

by philofthenorth on Apr 11, 2008 9:46 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

MAY-BEE

(sticks out tongue)

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by NHZ on Apr 11, 2008 10:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

this would be a nice time

for guillen to break out...

by rockchalk on Apr 11, 2008 9:44 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

argh, i just don't trust him at all!

i need to learn to believe in the guillieeee!

by Sean O Se on Apr 11, 2008 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Teahie Hit It

Too hard; strategic error.

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by philofthenorth on Apr 11, 2008 9:45 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

C'mon Jose

Get into one, at least.

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by NHZ on Apr 11, 2008 9:45 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

If Barnett is so good at making adjustments

then why can't he get them ready to hit out of the gate.

Proud father of a budding Royals fan.

by Skirra on Apr 11, 2008 9:45 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Hitting coaches can only do so much

Thinking that it's his fault because Guillen is slumping is a heaping it on a bit thick. Good hitters have slumps.

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Apr 11, 2008 9:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

This is why I want Guillen moved down.

He's so desperate to come through that he'll chase absolute shit when he's got runners on.

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on Apr 11, 2008 9:47 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

oh boy...

hopefully butler can at least get us on the board...

by rockchalk on Apr 11, 2008 9:47 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Good time for his first homer

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by jonfmorse on Apr 11, 2008 9:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good job Guillen

Honestly, I was expecting a DP.

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by RoyalsRetro on Apr 11, 2008 9:47 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Thanks for showing up there Jose

Don't know how we survived without your power before now.

by royaldaddy on Apr 11, 2008 9:47 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Come on Boom Boom!

We need a granny something fierce.

by royaldaddy on Apr 11, 2008 9:48 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

crap

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by Skirra on Apr 11, 2008 9:51 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Crap

What a waste. Gameday had that as ball four...

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by NHZ on Apr 11, 2008 9:51 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

yeah, quite a ways outside

where hernandez had been throwing a lot.

billy needs to learn to adjust to that.

by Sean O Se on Apr 11, 2008 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

that was.......disappointing

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by MileHighKCfan on Apr 11, 2008 9:52 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

nice of you to show up Gil

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by MileHighKCfan on Apr 11, 2008 9:56 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

maybe the bats will follow

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by MileHighKCfan on Apr 11, 2008 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hey, Gil

If you'd pitch the first three innings of your starts the way you pitch the last three innings of your starts, your ERA would be a lot better.

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on Apr 11, 2008 9:56 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I think he knows that

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by NHZ on Apr 11, 2008 9:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Livan is loving the AL central.

"No one here yet knows how to hit my beer-league breaking pitches!"

by MkeRoyal on Apr 11, 2008 10:02 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

He'll get bombed in the second half. Or sooner.

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by NHZ on Apr 11, 2008 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Seriously

I think I saw him pitching in one of my slow-pitch softball tournaments......overhand

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by MileHighKCfan on Apr 11, 2008 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That storm from Wednesday night

has arrived in DC.

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by jonfmorse on Apr 11, 2008 10:03 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

That thing is no joke

Just ask my folks about their farm. When half of your barn blows across the highway, you know it was fierce.

by royaldaddy on Apr 11, 2008 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hey all,

I hope I am bringing some good luck. I was at the KU game this afternoon. They beat Texas Tech 9-5 to snap a six game conference losing streak. If the Royals rally it will make my day a regular baseball heaven.

Oh yeah, and my hate for Guillen, that thing, yeah, it still burns bright. The stupid jackass is killing the team! I swear I wouldn't have even struck out on the dead fish pitch he went hacking at last inning.

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by James Quinn on Apr 11, 2008 10:04 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

It confuses me

how people can be THIS down on Guillen, while Gathright gets props. They're both off to slow starts, and they'll both improve.

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Apr 11, 2008 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Because I haven't seen Gathright

try to hit a ball three feet outside and a foot off the ground into the seats.

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on Apr 11, 2008 10:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Neither one has produced

yet Guillen is villified. You think he swung at that pitch trying to get out? I think he's probably pressing a bit.

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Apr 11, 2008 10:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh, come on.

Of course he's not "trying to get out". What kinda strawman is that?

Yes. He's pressing. He's pressing in a way that people require days off or a move in the batting order press. He's trying too damned hard, and it's now not a "guess" on my part like it was four days ago. It's plain to see.

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on Apr 11, 2008 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

No strawman

I didn't seriously think you thought he was sabotaging the team. I said that because I think the hate slung around at Guillen is getting a little silly. Butler swung at ball four and made an out with the bases loaded too...and I didn't see many critiquing him.

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Apr 11, 2008 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Because

(a) "ball four" wasn't three feet wide and a foot low and (b) Billy's not hitting sub-LaRue.

I don't hate Guillen. In fact, I'll bet money that he'll spit out a .850 OPS in May-August. But right now, he is quite clearly mired in a horrible struggle, and needs to not be hitting between our 2-3 hitters (who are, combined, hitting around .350) and our 5-6 hitters (who, combined, are hitting around .375).

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on Apr 11, 2008 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well,

(a) It was still ball four, which was my point.
(b) And if he was? People who get off to slow starts often get jumped on while those who have the foresight to slump in august are regarded as better contributors, even if they end up with comparable stats.

I just doubt that moving him will make any difference. I see your point, but then we're of the mind that Guillen will get going, right? Why does it necessarily help to move him down, then?

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Apr 11, 2008 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Arrgh.

(a) It was a hittable pitch; when you're down five, sure, taking a walk with the bases loaded is nice -- getting a HIT is better. This is probably one of the major flaws of the "OMG DRAW WALKS" philosophy. If you, as a hitter, really feel better about trying to get a hit that'll drive in two runs, you should probably be doing it.

He'll get going. He can get going just as well in the seven hole. Until he gets going, he's still killing the middle of an insanely potent middle of the lineup and leaving a lot of runners on. (Yeah, he's also driven five in; I don't discount that.)

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on Apr 11, 2008 10:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

No one here

advocates a philosophy that could be accurately described as "OMG DRAW WALKS." I think the best approach is to work the count to your advantages to try and get good pitches to hit. If you get them, take advantage of them. If you don't, take a free pass. That's really the general sabermetric idea, too.

But much ado about small beer. Livan fooled everyone today.

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Apr 11, 2008 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well, in truth, I was this down on Guillen before opening day.

His play just keeps confirming to me that I was right all along.

It is not a completely reasonable thing. I admit it.

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by James Quinn on Apr 11, 2008 10:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sorry to greet you that way

I think I'm getting a little enthusiastic in my defense of Guillen. Probably has something to do with how much I couldn't stand Sox fans ripping J.D. Drew last year.

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Apr 11, 2008 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

What was worse about that

is that they idolize Ted Williams, and he was just as taciturn and aloof as Drew.

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on Apr 11, 2008 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Williams was, from what I can tell, much more like that.

Drew doesn't come across as arrogant or aloof, just quiet and not exactly a quotable guy. This, the boston press hates him.

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by NHZ on Apr 11, 2008 10:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's really hard

not to like Kevin Millar.

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by NHZ on Apr 11, 2008 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It used to be really hard

for me to hate any Red Sock, given their valiant and heroic struggle against the blackest forces of evil.

Of course, now that Red Sox Nation is getting full of themselves, I find myself a little more capable of despising, say, Dustin Pedroia. ;)

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on Apr 11, 2008 10:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

You have no idea

How annoying it is when Sox bandwagoners latch on to the white scrappy players. It makes me want to dislike players like Pedroia, when in fact I like him as a player a lot. Gah. Sox fans. We're a mixed bunch.

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Apr 11, 2008 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

LOOOOOOOOOU

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by jonfmorse on Apr 11, 2008 10:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh, shit

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by NHZ on Apr 11, 2008 10:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hahaha

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by jonfmorse on Apr 11, 2008 10:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The scary thing is

how fast I realized what that was.

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by NHZ on Apr 11, 2008 10:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Atleast they forgave Bill Buckner

that was nice to see the other day

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by MileHighKCfan on Apr 11, 2008 10:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

When they forgive John McNamara

let me know.

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by jonfmorse on Apr 11, 2008 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Buckner

Didn't need to be forgiven. He's a baseball who made a bad play in an inning full of bad plays. Not a supervillain. But yes, I liked that he got a good ovation.

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Apr 11, 2008 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

No problem NHZ, I didn't mind the greeting.

I know I am a pain in the butt when it comes to certain topics. Guillen being one of them.

I'd trade Guillen for JD Drew in a second. No doubt.

www.rockchalktalk.com for pretty good KU baseball coverage

by James Quinn on Apr 11, 2008 10:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, I typed that, hit "post"

and immediately thought I came off too strong. I had a stressful week, and I'm not exactly my usual charming self today. :P

And for the record, I'd do the trade too, but only because Drew's a scrappy white guy. :P

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Apr 11, 2008 10:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Can you imagine

Manny and Guillen in the same outfield? That would violate the head-case quota.

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on Apr 11, 2008 10:53 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I love Manny

Some Sox fans REALLY hate him because they think he doesn't try hard enough. And I always ask those people how good he would have been if he'd tried. That usually shuts them up. He's just a goofball, plain and simple, and I really don't think he means to be offensive towards anyone. He's just kind of a baseball player from a different dimension or something.

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Apr 11, 2008 10:55 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I like Manny

He's just having fun, playing ball. Ain't nothing bad about that.

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on Apr 11, 2008 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Emil and Guillen!

That would be a nice battle of egos!

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by James Quinn on Apr 11, 2008 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

But!

I should say that I'm glad you made the KU game. Sounds like fun.

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Apr 11, 2008 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Fun, well maybe, it was a win,

but it was windy and freezing out there. Really small crowd. About 200 souls.

Here is my write-up from Rock Chalk Talk about the game:
http://www.rockchalktalk.com/comments/2008/4/11/124352/782/2#2

Yeah, I'm glad I went. But by the 8th inning the cold had penetrated to my bone marrow.

The Hawks collared TTU golden prospect Roger Kieschnick today. 0-5. That was sweet.

www.rockchalktalk.com for pretty good KU baseball coverage

by James Quinn on Apr 11, 2008 10:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Seems like a good team

to only have one conference win. Am I wrong?

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by NHZ on Apr 11, 2008 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think so!

I was full of optimism about my beloved Hawks back in February. The season has been very disappointing for me. They now are 2-8 in the Big-12. They have no hope of an at-large invite now so if Kansas is going to make the post season they need to do so through the conference tournament. They don't even get invited to the tournament unless they finish in the top-8, so every Big-12 game is precious.

www.rockchalktalk.com for pretty good KU baseball coverage

by James Quinn on Apr 11, 2008 10:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He related to Brooks?

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on Apr 11, 2008 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't know, but physically, he is a big guy.

Tall, strong, good athlete. Plays a good centerfield. I hope the Hawks hold him in check all weekend. He really dominates their offense.

www.rockchalktalk.com for pretty good KU baseball coverage

by James Quinn on Apr 11, 2008 10:55 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The Five Worst

Words ever; shut out by Livan Hernandez.

Let's go, boys, to the toppermost of the poppermost!

by philofthenorth on Apr 11, 2008 10:04 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

We've had some bad ones

but that would definitely rank up there pretty damn high

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by MileHighKCfan on Apr 11, 2008 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

We got 6 inches of snow yesterday

I'm sure that's what KC is getting now, minus the snow

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by MileHighKCfan on Apr 11, 2008 10:04 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

We Got It

3 days ago.

Let's go, boys, to the toppermost of the poppermost!

by philofthenorth on Apr 11, 2008 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

We've been getting it...

Allllll winter long. And, yes, it should still be winter.

What - 7 straight months of freezing ass cold weather? Will this misery ever end?

by Royals Nation on Apr 11, 2008 10:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

We Dream Of

5 good months.

Let's go, boys, to the toppermost of the poppermost!

by philofthenorth on Apr 11, 2008 10:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Gomez certainly

Trying to refute NHZ's argument that he has no power.

Relive Royals History at royalsretro.blogspot.com

by RoyalsRetro on Apr 11, 2008 10:07 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Do, by all means,

rub it in if he somehow maintains a .333 BA with doubles power. Until then, I'm not convinced.

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by NHZ on Apr 11, 2008 10:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He's got some serious speed

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by MileHighKCfan on Apr 11, 2008 10:08 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

If I was up 5 against a team with no offense

I'd do it just to see what would happen!

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on Apr 11, 2008 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Tolbert Sucks

Golden God no more.

Let's go, boys, to the toppermost of the poppermost!

by philofthenorth on Apr 11, 2008 10:10 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

You know

I think I'd rather give up the singles by playin back as opposed to all of the extra-base hits

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by MileHighKCfan on Apr 11, 2008 10:11 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Okay

How bout this:

Callaspo
Grudz
Teahen
Butler
Gordon
Guillen
Gload
Buck
Gathright

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by MileHighKCfan on Apr 11, 2008 10:16 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

i'm done with this game.

Better luck tomorrow in the powder blues. Who better to start a new blue tradition than Brett Tomko!

by MkeRoyal on Apr 11, 2008 10:18 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I Thought It

Took a lefty soft-tosser to do this to us.

Let's go, boys, to the toppermost of the poppermost!

by philofthenorth on Apr 11, 2008 10:19 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Nope, just a soft-tosser apparently

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Apr 11, 2008 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Did Yabuta Teach

This strategery to Meche or vice-versa?

Let's go, boys, to the toppermost of the poppermost!

by philofthenorth on Apr 11, 2008 10:22 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Much Minky Love

In the booth; we loved him in Kenai, too. He actually hit here.

Let's go, boys, to the toppermost of the poppermost!

by philofthenorth on Apr 11, 2008 10:24 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

You're just making that up.

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on Apr 11, 2008 10:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's In Here

Somewhere. Look for Teahen too.
http://alaskan-legacies.com/ablblog/?cat=5&paged=2

Let's go, boys, to the toppermost of the poppermost!

by philofthenorth on Apr 11, 2008 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

GODDAMNIT BILLY

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on Apr 11, 2008 10:35 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Butters

That's his nickname.

Let's go, boys, to the toppermost of the poppermost!

by philofthenorth on Apr 11, 2008 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

(See, I can vilify Billy just fine.)

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on Apr 11, 2008 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well done :)

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Apr 11, 2008 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

hahahahaha

isn't that all you can do now....laugh?

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by MileHighKCfan on Apr 11, 2008 10:36 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

did anyone see if Kuntz sent him or what?

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by MileHighKCfan on Apr 11, 2008 10:37 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

"Great defensive play"

that wasn't a "great defensive play", Ryan. It was shooting a fish in a Billy.

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on Apr 11, 2008 10:38 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Shoot Tolbert now please.

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on Apr 11, 2008 10:41 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

(gunshot)

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Apr 11, 2008 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Moment Of Silence

For a Golden God.

Let's go, boys, to the toppermost of the poppermost!

by philofthenorth on Apr 11, 2008 10:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wait what?

I'm sorry: I killed Buddy Bell for messing with Mechey.

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Apr 11, 2008 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Apparently Nathan needs work

kinda like Rivera last night

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by MileHighKCfan on Apr 11, 2008 10:45 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

But

at least Livan didn't go CGSO on us

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by MileHighKCfan on Apr 11, 2008 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Bad Glo-bot!

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Apr 11, 2008 10:50 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Way to hit under no pressure, Bucky

(Although it was nice to see, nonetheless.)

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on Apr 11, 2008 10:51 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Double for Buck

Is he rocking a mullet again this year?

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Apr 11, 2008 10:53 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Game

Well, good AB by Callaspo. Thanks for coming out people, the comments in here made this, a truly bad game for KC, a fun game thread.

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Apr 11, 2008 10:57 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

we out hit them

and they score 5, we score none....that's pretty pathetic. Nice job by the bullpen, no runs once again. And we can still take the series ya know.

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by MileHighKCfan on Apr 11, 2008 10:59 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

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