Game 2 Open Thread - Royals (1-0) at Tigers (0-1)
by Freneau on Apr 2, 2008 2:15 AM EDT
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Everybody's heartthrob Brian Bannister takes the ball today for the Royals, looking to prove the doubters wrong. Well, if there are any doubters left. I haven't been able to find any.
Squaring off against Banny will be the evil Kenny Rogers, potentially one of the least likable players in baseball, or any other sport. Sure, steroids destroyed our National Innocence and caused like fifteen jazillion runs (because no pitchers used PEDs, just look at the evidence) which also, somehow, destroyed our innocence, but I'll say Rogers is worse any day.
Do you remember his attack on the cameraman? Do you remember his robotic, satanic press conference when he "apologized" so insincerely for his actions? Do you remember when, two weeks later, he taunted the local media again? Sounds like a delightful guy.
All hyperbole aside, not only was his one-sided fight with the cameraman a cowardly, petty, attack on someone who was both smaller than him, and unable to defend himself, it was also potentially very dangerous. Heavy object + skull + neck isn't a winning formula. MLB is incredibly aggressive about taking things off youtube, but I found this clip of the clip, buried in an actually pretty entertaining rant by a Milwaukee sportscaster. For Rogers, goto about 2:30. Before that, for some reason dude airs ancient footage of Todd Day saying, "Milwaukee... damn" and shaking his head.
Then, there was the 2006 playoffs, which featured Rogers preening on the mound and posing like a tough guy non-stop against the Yankees. (Clearly, given the picture above, Rogers has manhood issues.) This was just a prelude to the appearance of the smudge against the Cardinals. But hey, a guy with huge favorable home splits in Texas and Minnesota isn't smudging. No.
You sir, are a disgrace to the real Kenny Rogers. The man who brought us "Lucille".
Go Royals. Beat Kenny.
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i loathe this guy
being on the Tigers roster seems fitting, somehow
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One of those interesting "spring" games
The temperature at first pitch is supposed to be 36 degrees, getting up to as much as 42.
I probably disagree with you.
But...
Our Kenny Rogers still has his real face. And he has a way better fastball than Mr. Roasted Chicken.
But can he carry a tune?
I probably disagree with you.
by Scott McKinney on Apr 2, 2008 9:09 AM EDT up reply actions
How can you defend this man!
After all he has done to this country! Look into your heart man! Wins just are not worth this degree of mud crawling.
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Oh my G-d, we'll beat Kenny
and his fellow bastards!
Chaim Mattis Keller New York City's # 1 Royals fan!
One of my favorite Royals memories...
...involves Kenny Rogers. The Royals were losing 3-1 going into the 6th when they exploded for 12 runs in that inning. The PA announcer serenaded Rogers with his namesake's "The Gambler" as he walked off the field, on his way to taking the L. Later in the same inning, a Royal would get plunked, leading to the ejection of J.C. Romero and Ron Gardenhire. That game contained everything I look for in an in-person baseball experience: Mocking exit music, inexplicable beanball wars and the appearance of one J Gilfillan as the Royals' 9th inning mop-up pitcher.
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/baseball/news/2003/06/17/twins_royals_ap/
I've never been much of...
...a Rogers fan. He epitomizes the spoiled athlete caricature.
And on the other side of the universe, we have Bannister. Here's a KC Star article that, for the Royals insider, is almost becoming cliche: Bannister analyzing his technique, the opposing hitters' psyche, the conditions, anticipated situations, etc. I say cliche, but I don't think KC fans can get enough of this after years of seemingly inept thinking about the game. It's like we get a piece now of what the franchise whiffed on: the mind of Bill James as applied to the Royals. - TL
I never had a prob with the Gambler...
I hated him for a long time, but for some reason the camera tip didn't bother me...maybe because I can see myself doing something stupid like that...royaldaddy you back me up there?
Don't be lonesome for your heroes. Be your own hero.
I gotta wonder
are people really that surprised that a professional baseball player has put some thought into what he's doing? I guess i kinda thought it was interesting when i read about it a month ago, but seriously, these guys have access to some of the most comprehensive and cutting edge stats in the world. Assembly line engineers at ford don't have as much data about their jobs.
The first thing I know about someone in a KC hat is that they're loyal.
All players have access to all of these stats and metrics
And yet I doubt that fewer than 1% of them seriously analyze them. Most pitchers study the scouting report, watch some film and then just go out there and throw their pitches. There's nothing wrong with that, but very, very few go any deeper than that. Very few are as intelligent as Bannister. He uses every tool at his disposal, including his intellect to make himself the best pitcher he can be.
I probably disagree with you.
by Scott McKinney on Apr 2, 2008 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions
Man,
i've given to thought to my range and economy of motion when i was a dishwasher. you'd think people making millions a year would at least be aware of what the hell the numbers are on their job.
The first thing I know about someone in a KC hat is that they're loyal.
Oh, I'm sure they look at their stats
I'm sure most, if not all players look at their stats every now and then. They check their batting average, ERA and know how many home runs they've hit. But they aren't digging for advanced metrics and they aren't critically analyzing their stats with any depth to try to determine how they need to improve. Nor do I think they dig much beyond the scouting report in analyzing the stats of their opponents.
It's the professional culture. From little league to high school to college to the minors and majors, these athletes have been in a culture which is about working out, practicing and learning how to improve from coaches. Statistical analysis simply isn't a part of that culture. Few break from the dominant paradigm.
I probably disagree with you.
by Scott McKinney on Apr 2, 2008 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions
How much would it help?
I was impressed with Banny's discussions about his novel and intelligent thoughts on influence BABIP. But his conclusion about getting ahead in the count isn't revolutionary. Every coach drills that into pitcher's heads. I just don't see where the advantages for players would be. I think stats are excellent ways to evaluate performance and players, but beyond an understanding that walks are good I don't see the application for players. I'm not saying the application isn't out there; perhaps someone brilliant will come up with it. Anyone here have ideas?
by stuckinstl12 on Apr 2, 2008 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions
Bannister has used stats to a much greater degree than that
Through statistical analysis, he's learned many things including:
- Which pitches work for him and which don't, and when they are best used
- The importance of strikeouts and thus, the need to develop better out pitches
- The importance of groundballs and thus, the need to develop pitches which help induce them
- The significance of park effects and how pitching in different parks should affect his approach and pitching strategy
- and much more
Through statistical analysis, players can learn more about what is going on and why it is happen. That knowledge can lead them to ways they need to improve their games. Bannister is making the most of that.
I probably disagree with you.
by Scott McKinney on Apr 2, 2008 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions
Valid points about Bannister
I maybe shortchanged his results a bit. I still think some of those conclusions only validate conventional wisdom. That is, of course, no small accomplishment because conventional wisdom should be questioned.
But here's my real question, I guess: How do we think a hitter could specifically apply some of the conclusions and analysis of the sabermetric community?
Here's what I can come up with offhand:
1) Understanding the importance of OBP can prevent the Buddy Bell/Dusty Baker "be aggressive!" mindset.
2) Knowing the nature of BABIP can lessen focus on batting average and move it to hitting baseballs hard without regard for the result.
In general I agree that a better understanding of the game and its peculiarities can only help.
by stuckinstl12 on Apr 2, 2008 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions
And remember
these are generally kids who only completed high school and then got on a minor league bus.It is also doubtful that even the college level players have an interest in advanced mathematics (only a percentage of all students do I chose my courses in an attempt to avoid math). I am not intending to demean their intelligence but they spend most of their time on physical attributes, and making mechanical changes. Often they have not been introduced to a statistical perspective on their performance and have not been educated on how to apply the numbers even if they know that they exist. Maybe a team that provides these opportunities will have a few more Bannister types and even have a short term advantage (assuming that the teams copy each other every team would have the same system sooner or later). The question then becomes should the Royals invest in statistical education system and will they? Also what would a statistical education do for each player the numbers can be very discouraging and as NY Royal often notes there are times that statistics are misleading or useless. in addition remember that GMDM is of a scouts first background.
I was pretty amazed
When I befriended some guys on the baseball team in college, a few of which went pro, how much they didn't care for baseball when they were away from the game.
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2-0 here we come
Some predictions -
1. Butler will have a big day - a couple of extra base hits.
2. Guillen will hit his first HR as a Royal.
3. Gathright will steal two bases.
4. Bannister will have a shaky start to the game due to the cold but settle down in later innings - expect something like 6 2/3 innings pitched, 3 runs, 4 K's, 1 BB.
5. Rogers will work effectively the first time through the Royals lineup but falter after and be removed by the 5th inning - giving up 5 runs.
6. Soria will notch his second save.
Final score - Royals 7 Tigers 4
True. Blue. Third Place in 2008.
i'm going to say Rogers makes it through 3 without yielding a hit
and then gives up 7 runs in the 4th
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I like the drama...
...of this prediction. My only tweak would be to make it the 5th inning. Couldn't happen to a nicer guy. - TL
I'll be in and out today
i'm teaching, but i'm gonna leave game day up and running. my gameday audio subscription came up... yesterday. the mlb.tv is tempting, but i'm gonna pass for now.
The first thing I know about someone in a KC hat is that they're loyal.
Hey Grantfunk,
I'm listening to your music now. From the link on your profile. I like it.
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lets do this
First gameday thread in awhile. From opening day it looks like they have grown exponentially.
I'll have to tape the game again,
and watch it tonight. Sorry I won't be here for the banter.
Rogers is a horrible bile producing human being and he is destined for the white fires of hell. This is beyond doubt. While the Royals are clean-limbed honest youth, bubbling with innocent enthusiasm and a sporting love of the game. We all know in the end good must win.
My prediction, the Royals win 99-1. The Tigers cheat while the umpire is distracted to score their run.
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Kenny Rogers - History's Greatest Monster
Also gave up the first four hit game to Billy Butler, one of many in Billy's Hall of Fame career hopefully.
Relive Royals History at royalsretro.blogspot.com
Look for
Butler to have a good day.. I just dont see Rogers fairing out to well against him
I love life. Life = Royals
In yesterday's online chat with Butler at Royals.com, he was asked if he felt "locked in" right now
A: Absolutely
I probably disagree with you.
by Scott McKinney on Apr 2, 2008 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Nice Adjustment
Kansas City AB R H RBI BB SO LOB AVG
Gathright, CF 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000
Grudzielanek, 2B 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .750
Gordon, 3B 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .200
Guillen, RF 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000
Butler, DH 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .200
Teahen, LF 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .333
Gload, 1B 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .250
Buck, C 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .400
Pena, SS 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .200
Totals 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Too bad he didn't hit Gload 5th just for the novelty.
The Bad Guys:
Renteria, SS 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .200
Polanco, 2B 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000
Sheffield, DH 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000
Ordonez, RF 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .400
Cabrera, 3B 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .200
Guillen, 1B 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .600
Rodriguez, C 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .200
Jones, J, LF 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000
Inge, CF 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .333
Let's go, boys, to the toppermost of the poppermost!
2 games, 2 different lineups
I'm sick of this guy's constant tinkering. These players will never get used to their roles.
I probably disagree with you.
by Scott McKinney on Apr 2, 2008 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Leyland's lineup
Polanco should be leading off, Cabrera should be hitting third, and if he wanted to get really crazy. Sheff would be a good #2 hitter.
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Howdy y'all
got a few days off to enjoy the ole ballgame...I'm going Grudz and GLOAD today...I'm saying GLOAD will be the BOD even if he doesn't play...he is the anti-Gambler
Don't be lonesome for your heroes. Be your own hero.
PLAY BALL...
I be in and out for the first few innings and then prolly DVR the rest as I'm passed out...I've been up for 27 hours and celebrating time off with a Guiness x 4
Don't be lonesome for your heroes. Be your own hero.
Guiness, like sleep in a bottle. A few pints and you're as good as new!
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Am I the only one
that doesn't have game feed currently? The game is supposed to be on today, correct?
I'm getting tennis. Ugh.
Boyfriend of the Year 2008: It's gonna be big!
I have it on FSN
and it *should* be FSN midwest.
But maybe they haven't switched it in the Warrensburg area? Because I'm getting commercials from Florida. And, like I said, tennis.
Boyfriend of the Year 2008: It's gonna be big!
by loyal2theroyals on Apr 2, 2008 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions
YEAH!!!!!
Let's go Royals!
Finally coming back to the 'K'!!!! I'm going to be there 7/11/08, vs the SEA Mariners, of course!
by RoyalsFanInMarinerTown on Apr 2, 2008 1:06 PM EDT reply actions
For those without other means to see the game...
MLB Extra Innings has a free preview through April 6. So if it's available via your cable provider or otherwise, check it out.
Alex
Still getting hosed.
Seriously, is there a memo going around among umpires that Alex sucks?
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That one
actually looked like a strike to me, although a close one.
6-pitch at-bats are always a fine thing, but he's got to start pulling the trigger on 2-strike counts.
I think it's just stupid that
I have to watch it online. I can't watch it on my TV even though it says that I should be able to. They always do this shit in the Jeff City area (forgetting to switch feeds between Cards games and Royals games) and now they're doing it here.
Boyfriend of the Year 2008: It's gonna be big!
PREACH IT
I came running back from my working out all excited and what do I get? Tennis. Life sucks.
by campfiresongs on Apr 2, 2008 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions
OK, gotta run. I'll watch the rest on tape later.
Take care all. Keep your eyes on Rogers. He cheats.
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I love
how Banny just throws strikes. It's so refreshing to not have to worry about someone being wild. Knock on Wood.
by I need more Esteban on Apr 2, 2008 1:18 PM EDT reply actions
6th grade band is calling
and sheffield is striking...
The first thing I know about someone in a KC hat is that they're loyal.
wow beautiful double play
lets stick it to rogers here.
Accidentally not thedude925 anymore. I do hate this new name.
Bannister is the 2008 CY winner...book it
I've seen all I need to see.
I probably disagree with you.
He quickly crunched the numbers in his head and made the proper adjustments
I probably disagree with you.
by Scott McKinney on Apr 2, 2008 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Really? I Thought
He induced a grounder to 3B.
Let's go, boys, to the toppermost of the poppermost!
by philofthenorth on Apr 2, 2008 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Seriously
I love Banny, but he's going to have to start racking up more strike threes before I drink the kool-aid.
The glass, however, is sitting right next to me.
Me Too
And I'm really thirsty.
Let's go, boys, to the toppermost of the poppermost!
by philofthenorth on Apr 2, 2008 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Crap
We are not being very patient. I'd appreciate if we were getting hits but 1-2-3 again.
by I need more Esteban on Apr 2, 2008 1:23 PM EDT reply actions
not enough
the royals do realize the tiger bullpen is bad, right?
I wanna know what love is, I want you to show me
butler
was three years old when kenny was drafted
Oh man, it's a good day for sure!
I got my Royals tix last night for the game in July at the K. I bought tickets to see 311 at Sandstone the day before on the 10th of July, and I have a hell of a 3 week vacation planned in MO, this July!
I am quite jazzed about this.
BONUS BUCKS: ROYALS BASEBALL TODAY!
I went ahead and upgraded to MLB tv instead of just audio, today. I do this every year. I have no idea why I ever get the radio.
Finally coming back to the 'K'!!!! I'm going to be there 7/11/08, vs the SEA Mariners, of course!
by RoyalsFanInMarinerTown on Apr 2, 2008 1:26 PM EDT reply actions
Snoop
with 311!?! What is up with that, that is going to be a crazy mix of fans.
by I need more Esteban on Apr 2, 2008 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Right?
I finally get to take my kids to a 311 show, since it is outside, and I don't have to worry about them crammed inside with all the cigarette smoke.
Finally coming back to the 'K'!!!! I'm going to be there 7/11/08, vs the SEA Mariners, of course!
by RoyalsFanInMarinerTown on Apr 2, 2008 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Is this game tv broadcast on the web?
If so, where?
MLB.tv....for cash
I probably disagree with you.
by Scott McKinney on Apr 2, 2008 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions
I dig the blue glove he's rolling
pretty sweet
Accidentally not thedude925 anymore. I do hate this new name.
Looks like Banny is getting lots of "luck" on batted balls so far today
I probably disagree with you.
It held throughout 2007
For most guys it is luck. For some guys, it is not.
I probably disagree with you.
by Scott McKinney on Apr 2, 2008 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions
"Luck"
Do you not subscribe to the idea that a pitcher has little impact on balls put in play?
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i subscribe to it
butpark and weather ar ealso factors
banny didnt make comerica spacious or cold, but its helping today
I wanna know what love is, I want you to show me
There are some types of pitchers and individuals who can indeed affect what happens with regard to balls in play
I posited in a diary/fanpost during the offseason that Bannister may well be one of them because of his superior pitch selection ability. However, this is pretty untestable.
I probably disagree with you.
by Scott McKinney on Apr 2, 2008 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Can't speak for him
But I do think certain types of pitchers have better "luck" than others. Extreme groundball pitchers (barring incompetent defense) and extreme flyball pitchers who don't allow a ton of homers probably make a fair bit of their own luck.
there we go
lets keep this going and add some offense to the equation.
Accidentally not thedude925 anymore. I do hate this new name.
I think we should be more
aggressive at the plate.
Let's Go Blues!
by powderbluesfor08 on Apr 2, 2008 1:31 PM EDT reply actions
I think Ross Choad has swung at every first pitch he's seen this year
I don't like him.
I probably disagree with you.
i love how inept we look sometimes
i hate kenny rogers so much
Accidentally not thedude925 anymore. I do hate this new name.
on the other hand,
the game is scoreless. They're not losing.
Bet?
Enough with the gambler references already.
Let's Go Blues!
by powderbluesfor08 on Apr 2, 2008 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions
this reminds me of that gamein seattle
where banny and beak each had no hitters going for like 5 innings
whoever I talked to about the feed
couldn't do anything for me because I'm not the account holder. At least I've got the RRN to keep me company.
Boyfriend of the Year 2008: It's gonna be big!
"Not the account holder"
is a pretty weak copout. The customer service rep you talked to is not on top of his/her game today.
just frustrating because
I'm in the dorms. I don't even know who to contact about this shit.
And now I have to listen to Bob Davis. Worst broadcasting choice EVER for radio feed.
Boyfriend of the Year 2008: It's gonna be big!
by loyal2theroyals on Apr 2, 2008 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions
i like it
a little chin music for i-rod... then the K
Nice K
Beautiful mix of pitches to K Ivan
Unfortunately, his curveball has been all over the place so far. He has no control of it. The rest of his pitches look good.
I probably disagree with you.
Nice curve there to Jacque Jones
To induce a weak grounder. That batted ball out certainly wasn't luck.
I probably disagree with you.
Wasn't He
Overrated for years?
Let's go, boys, to the toppermost of the poppermost!
by philofthenorth on Apr 2, 2008 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Rogers Authored The
Second most famous "pine tar incident" of all time.
Let's go, boys, to the toppermost of the poppermost!
That's My
Point, exactly.
Let's go, boys, to the toppermost of the poppermost!
by philofthenorth on Apr 2, 2008 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Yikes, great pitches from Bannister to Inge
Nicely placed fastball, great curves and a very good slider/cutter to K him.
I probably disagree with you.
Whoops
You were harsh, but fair. It was a bit of a polemic, but Kenny has earned it. I'm sure a lot of Tigers fans would like that kind of thing.
I probably disagree with you.
by Scott McKinney on Apr 2, 2008 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Wow, Mr. Rogers has fans? It was probably from his mom
by Royal Revival on Apr 2, 2008 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions
I believe they had him confused with the PBS Mr. Rogers
did you clarify for them you meant the slimball Mr. Rogers
I'd rather be watching baseball.
by Sisquatch Kids on Apr 2, 2008 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Royals 2008 offensive strategy
Go hitless in the early innings, dominate late. Clearly, they're just stalling until they reach the Detroit bullpen -- quality strategy.
I wish Gathright could learn how to slap the ball over a pulled in infield
Every third baseman is just about in his face every time he comes up.
I probably disagree with you.
IF single to SS
I probably disagree with you.
by Scott McKinney on Apr 2, 2008 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions
The Sight Of
Cabrera charging must be terrifying.
Let's go, boys, to the toppermost of the poppermost!
Nice. One of Gathright's patented IF hits
Most hitters would have been an easy out on that one.
I probably disagree with you.
Let's Put The
Turf back in!
Let's go, boys, to the toppermost of the poppermost!
by philofthenorth on Apr 2, 2008 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions
No, less than 5%
I probably disagree with you.
by Scott McKinney on Apr 2, 2008 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Odds the SB attempt is successful?
50% with this pitcher-catcher combo
I probably disagree with you.
by Scott McKinney on Apr 2, 2008 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions
I think he peed a little
Either that or there is a pine tar stain down there.
I probably disagree with you.
by Scott McKinney on Apr 2, 2008 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions
All Fear
The Gator speed.
Let's go, boys, to the toppermost of the poppermost!
by philofthenorth on Apr 2, 2008 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions
It's great
how Joey can really change the flow of a game over there at first. I love it.
by I need more Esteban on Apr 2, 2008 1:49 PM EDT reply actions
I don't know if Gathright is a factor here
But Rogers isn't throwing so many strikes now
I probably disagree with you.
Grudz's on MLB looks like a pedophile...or a rockstar, I can't decide...
by Royal Revival on Apr 2, 2008 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions
check out Gload
if this isn't the face of enthusiasm, I don't know what is, folks.
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/players/6560
by campfiresongs on Apr 2, 2008 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions
I like Gordon's patience so far this year, though. It will pay off eventually.
I probably disagree with you.
Unless he gets frustrated
and starts hacking at everything with two strikes 'cause nobody'll call it a ball.
A-Gord
needs to go down swinging there. I know they are close but still. They are calling him shitty so go for it.
by I need more Esteban on Apr 2, 2008 1:53 PM EDT reply actions
No kidding!
He's a gifted hitter and he's not going to get the call on/off the black, so swing away!
Don't Stop Believing!
guillen
like to see him witha run scoring hit here
Accidentally not thedude925 anymore. I do hate this new name.
Are his reactions
(flipping his bat thinking its a walk) perpetuating bad calls from the umps? Its like they have a vendetta against him...
I don't think so. he really doesn't do much.
I probably disagree with you.
by Scott McKinney on Apr 2, 2008 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Nice Walk!
Making Kenny throw some pitches finally.
by I need more Esteban on Apr 2, 2008 1:57 PM EDT reply actions
22 pitches this inning
YAY!
Finally coming back to the 'K'!!!! I'm going to be there 7/11/08, vs the SEA Mariners, of course!
by RoyalsFanInMarinerTown on Apr 2, 2008 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Don't get cocky kid.
My apologies to Han Solo
If by dinger, you meant "come back to the pitcher"
then you nailed it.
:-)
Guillen was very generous. He's allowing Butler to be the hero
Guillen loves his teammates
I probably disagree with you.
alright alright
Billy is gonna come through here. I can feel it in my bones.
Accidentally not thedude925 anymore. I do hate this new name.
Ohhh, Billy, Billy, Billy, Billy, Billy.
Let's Go Blues!
by powderbluesfor08 on Apr 2, 2008 1:58 PM EDT reply actions
Thanks,
I was afraid of how that looked at first.
Let's Go Blues!
by powderbluesfor08 on Apr 2, 2008 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions
I like our patience this inning
Wish we'd show it more often!
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maybe it is a preview of things to come
I probably disagree with you.
by Scott McKinney on Apr 2, 2008 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions
I like that they gave him the green light
But that was not a pitch you hit when you have a 3-0 count
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Interesting that Butler had the green light on 3-0
Too bad he kind of wasted it.
I probably disagree with you.
It Was A
Good thought, and it sounds like he took it back up the middle; BABIP at work.
Let's go, boys, to the toppermost of the poppermost!
by philofthenorth on Apr 2, 2008 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Does the new thread
go pretty slow at times for others???
by I need more Esteban on Apr 2, 2008 2:00 PM EDT reply actions
Not As Bad
Today; it was virtually unusable Monday.
Let's go, boys, to the toppermost of the poppermost!
by philofthenorth on Apr 2, 2008 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions
y-y-y-e-e-e-e-s-s-s-s-s-...........
Let's Go Blues!
by powderbluesfor08 on Apr 2, 2008 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions
seems fine to me
but it got slow yesterday, err, monday
the super long thread is an issue, probably more for your browser than the site itself being slow, if that makes sense
Against the vaunted Tigers offense
Royals pitchers have a 2.57 ERA
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it looks like I successfully predicted
being no-hit through three.
but where was the 7 run fourth inning?
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Anyone else
like Bucks defense there on the ball in the dirt? I wonder if Olivo is able to keep the ball in front of him like that..
Buck did well, but Olivo really is a better defensive catcher.
I probably disagree with you.
by Scott McKinney on Apr 2, 2008 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions
bannister just doing work
lets get some freaking runs
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A quick Bannister question
If he has a significantly low BABIP again this year, does it prove that his particular skill set allows him to affect that and that it's not just luck?
I'm just asking. I don't really have an answer.
I probably disagree with you.
I'd say it's a data point
But still not "proof". More like "evidence". He'd have to be consistent for 3-4 years before it's really meaningful, I'd say.
do you ever wonder
if Maggs take his helmet off, whether he's actually bald underneath?
Kind of like the groucho marx glasses, except with what appears to be a irish setter glued to a helmet.
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Anyone else
tried the wild cherry m&m's?
Damn they're good...just ate a whole bag.
Let's Go Blues!
by powderbluesfor08 on Apr 2, 2008 2:11 PM EDT reply actions
What part tastes like cherry, the coating or the chocolate? or is there a gooey cherry center inside?
I probably disagree with you.
by Scott McKinney on Apr 2, 2008 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions
They are just like eating a regular one,
cept a little bigger...and taste just like a choc. covered cherry...no-goo though....I think I taste the cherry in both the shell and the choc.
Let's Go Blues!
by powderbluesfor08 on Apr 2, 2008 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions
As long as we're off-topic
I want to state my love for the new Subway jingle "Five dollar foot long." I think its catchy enough it could make it as a pop song.
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Seriously
That thing just sticks in your head!
by I need more Esteban on Apr 2, 2008 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions
I'd be more impressed
if they hadn't been regularly doing "3 footlongs for $10" sales last year.
Damned inflation.
I cant eat Subway any more
since I discovered Penn Station!
Let's Go Blues!
by powderbluesfor08 on Apr 2, 2008 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Not sure about the Subway jingle..
But for those in the Lawrence area... Tell me the Pizza Street commercials aren't the most catchy tune in the entire world?? Everyone I know has that thing memorized and its not exactly something you would go out of your way to learn.. I would pay them money to stop playing that freaking ad.
Yeah
Lets start a fund or something.
by I need more Esteban on Apr 2, 2008 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh god
They have those in Olathe too and that song will haunt me until I die. It is a good deal, though...
by campfiresongs on Apr 2, 2008 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions
At Pizza Street, Pizza Street
Try our $3.99 buffet, Its all you can eat, Pizza Street Pizza Street, Great Pizza Great Price, All you can eat for $3.99... Kill me now.
I might just be overly sensitive
but that little girl with the huge eyes biting into the piece of pizza is a little bit terrifying.
by campfiresongs on Apr 2, 2008 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Correction
Exglosion
I probably disagree with you.
by Scott McKinney on Apr 2, 2008 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions
If Hillman ran Grudz, he'd run Gload
and there he goes
I probably disagree with you.
by Scott McKinney on Apr 2, 2008 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions
did anyone actually watch that youtube clip?
RR posted?
That sports caster has some things on his mind
I wanna know what love is, I want you to show me
seems like something you would have seen on chappelle
i hope to meet someone from milwaukee soon so i can refer to this
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but that sportscaster
he has just seen milwaukee get ripped for too long
he's HAD ENOUGH
I wanna know what love is, I want you to show me
Kenny Rogers-Ivan Rodriguez
Pretty much the worst pitcher-catcher combo you could possibly run on.
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Let's be fair
Other than Gordo, he was the only guy the first time through the order to see four pitches.
True
But he really shouldn't ever swing at the first pitch. he needs to see as many pitches as possible
I probably disagree with you.
by Scott McKinney on Apr 2, 2008 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions
We are
officially in a pitchers duel.
by I need more Esteban on Apr 2, 2008 2:18 PM EDT reply actions
I'm looking forward to the bullpen duel
We certainly have the edge there
I probably disagree with you.
by Scott McKinney on Apr 2, 2008 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions
how long
can banny hold the tigers in check?
Accidentally not thedude925 anymore. I do hate this new name.
Sometimes, I think it is
see above
I probably disagree with you.
by Scott McKinney on Apr 2, 2008 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Sometimes when you give a batter a pitch that he didn't expect, he'll make poor contact on it
Bannister is the master of that. helps keep your BABIP down.
I probably disagree with you.
hopefully that means a low home run rate?
was that consistent with his numbers last year?
He's a contact and flyball pitcher
So he's going to give up his share of HR. But he didn't give up more than his share of HR's.
I probably disagree with you.
by Scott McKinney on Apr 2, 2008 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions
how many times
are they going to rehash that cabrera homer?
Accidentally not thedude925 anymore. I do hate this new name.