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Kansas City Royals at Detroit Tigers, Apr 2, 2008 1:05 PM EDT


Everybody's heartthrob Brian Bannister takes the ball today for the Royals, looking to prove the doubters wrong. Well, if there are any doubters left. I haven't been able to find any.

Squaring off against Banny will be the evil Kenny Rogers, potentially one of the least likable players in baseball, or any other sport. Sure, steroids destroyed our National Innocence and caused like fifteen jazillion runs (because no pitchers used PEDs, just look at the evidence) which also, somehow, destroyed our innocence, but I'll say Rogers is worse any day.

 

Do you remember his attack on the cameraman? Do you remember his robotic, satanic press conference when he "apologized" so insincerely for his actions? Do you remember when, two weeks later, he taunted the local media again? Sounds like a delightful guy.

 

All hyperbole aside, not only was his one-sided fight with the cameraman a cowardly, petty, attack on someone who was both smaller than him, and unable to defend himself, it was also potentially very dangerous. Heavy object + skull + neck isn't a winning formula. MLB is incredibly aggressive about taking things off youtube, but I found this clip of the clip, buried in an actually pretty entertaining rant by a Milwaukee sportscaster. For Rogers, goto about 2:30. Before that, for some reason dude airs ancient footage of Todd Day saying, "Milwaukee... damn" and shaking his head.

Then, there was the 2006 playoffs, which featured Rogers preening on the mound and posing like a tough guy non-stop against the Yankees. (Clearly, given the picture above, Rogers has manhood issues.)  This was just a prelude to the appearance of the smudge against the Cardinals. But hey, a guy with huge  favorable  home splits in Texas and Minnesota isn't smudging. No.

You sir, are a disgrace to the real Kenny Rogers. The man who brought us "Lucille".

Go Royals. Beat Kenny.

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by hcoguy on Apr 2, 2008 3:09 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

i loathe this guy

being on the Tigers roster seems fitting, somehow

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by marbotty on Apr 2, 2008 7:26 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

One of those interesting "spring" games

The temperature at first pitch is supposed to be 36 degrees, getting up to as much as 42.

I probably disagree with you.

by NYRoyal on Apr 2, 2008 8:36 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

He's definitely

The Coward of the County

by Slim Intoxicado on Apr 2, 2008 8:44 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

But...

Our Kenny Rogers still has his real face. And he has a way better fastball than Mr. Roasted Chicken.

Bless You Boys

by Ian Casselberry on Apr 2, 2008 8:50 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

But can he carry a tune?

I probably disagree with you.

by NYRoyal on Apr 2, 2008 9:09 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

How can you defend this man!

After all he has done to this country! Look into your heart man! Wins just are not worth this degree of mud crawling.

www.rockchalktalk.com for pretty good KU baseball coverage

by James Quinn on Apr 2, 2008 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh my G-d, we'll beat Kenny

and his fellow bastards!

Chaim Mattis Keller New York City's # 1 Royals fan!

by cmkeller on Apr 2, 2008 9:30 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

One of my favorite Royals memories...

...involves Kenny Rogers. The Royals were losing 3-1 going into the 6th when they exploded for 12 runs in that inning. The PA announcer serenaded Rogers with his namesake's "The Gambler" as he walked off the field, on his way to taking the L. Later in the same inning, a Royal would get plunked, leading to the ejection of J.C. Romero and Ron Gardenhire. That game contained everything I look for in an in-person baseball experience: Mocking exit music, inexplicable beanball wars and the appearance of one J Gilfillan as the Royals' 9th inning mop-up pitcher.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/baseball/news/2003/06/17/twins_royals_ap/

by andrewmiller on Apr 2, 2008 10:20 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

nice

I wanna know what love is, I want you to show me

by LeoBloom on Apr 2, 2008 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I've never been much of...

...a Rogers fan. He epitomizes the spoiled athlete caricature.

And on the other side of the universe, we have Bannister. Here's a KC Star article that, for the Royals insider, is almost becoming cliche: Bannister analyzing his technique, the opposing hitters' psyche, the conditions, anticipated situations, etc. I say cliche, but I don't think KC fans can get enough of this after years of seemingly inept thinking about the game. It's like we get a piece now of what the franchise whiffed on: the mind of Bill James as applied to the Royals. - TL

by timlacy on Apr 2, 2008 10:39 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I never had a prob with the Gambler...

I hated him for a long time, but for some reason the camera tip didn't bother me...maybe because I can see myself doing something stupid like that...royaldaddy you back me up there?

Don't be lonesome for your heroes. Be your own hero.

by PhattStairs on Apr 2, 2008 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I gotta wonder

are people really that surprised that a professional baseball player has put some thought into what he's doing? I guess i kinda thought it was interesting when i read about it a month ago, but seriously, these guys have access to some of the most comprehensive and cutting edge stats in the world. Assembly line engineers at ford don't have as much data about their jobs.

The first thing I know about someone in a KC hat is that they're loyal.

by grantfunk on Apr 2, 2008 10:53 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

All players have access to all of these stats and metrics

And yet I doubt that fewer than 1% of them seriously analyze them. Most pitchers study the scouting report, watch some film and then just go out there and throw their pitches. There's nothing wrong with that, but very, very few go any deeper than that. Very few are as intelligent as Bannister. He uses every tool at his disposal, including his intellect to make himself the best pitcher he can be.

I probably disagree with you.

by NYRoyal on Apr 2, 2008 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Man,

i've given to thought to my range and economy of motion when i was a dishwasher. you'd think people making millions a year would at least be aware of what the hell the numbers are on their job.

The first thing I know about someone in a KC hat is that they're loyal.

by grantfunk on Apr 2, 2008 11:09 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh, I'm sure they look at their stats

I'm sure most, if not all players look at their stats every now and then. They check their batting average, ERA and know how many home runs they've hit. But they aren't digging for advanced metrics and they aren't critically analyzing their stats with any depth to try to determine how they need to improve. Nor do I think they dig much beyond the scouting report in analyzing the stats of their opponents.

It's the professional culture. From little league to high school to college to the minors and majors, these athletes have been in a culture which is about working out, practicing and learning how to improve from coaches. Statistical analysis simply isn't a part of that culture. Few break from the dominant paradigm.

I probably disagree with you.

by NYRoyal on Apr 2, 2008 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

How much would it help?

I was impressed with Banny's discussions about his novel and intelligent thoughts on influence BABIP. But his conclusion about getting ahead in the count isn't revolutionary. Every coach drills that into pitcher's heads. I just don't see where the advantages for players would be. I think stats are excellent ways to evaluate performance and players, but beyond an understanding that walks are good I don't see the application for players. I'm not saying the application isn't out there; perhaps someone brilliant will come up with it. Anyone here have ideas?

by stuckinstl12 on Apr 2, 2008 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Bannister has used stats to a much greater degree than that

Through statistical analysis, he's learned many things including:

- Which pitches work for him and which don't, and when they are best used
- The importance of strikeouts and thus, the need to develop better out pitches
- The importance of groundballs and thus, the need to develop pitches which help induce them
- The significance of park effects and how pitching in different parks should affect his approach and pitching strategy
- and much more

Through statistical analysis, players can learn more about what is going on and why it is happen. That knowledge can lead them to ways they need to improve their games. Bannister is making the most of that.

I probably disagree with you.

by NYRoyal on Apr 2, 2008 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Valid points about Bannister

I maybe shortchanged his results a bit. I still think some of those conclusions only validate conventional wisdom. That is, of course, no small accomplishment because conventional wisdom should be questioned.
But here's my real question, I guess: How do we think a hitter could specifically apply some of the conclusions and analysis of the sabermetric community?
Here's what I can come up with offhand:
1) Understanding the importance of OBP can prevent the Buddy Bell/Dusty Baker "be aggressive!" mindset.
2) Knowing the nature of BABIP can lessen focus on batting average and move it to hitting baseballs hard without regard for the result.

In general I agree that a better understanding of the game and its peculiarities can only help.

by stuckinstl12 on Apr 2, 2008 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

thanks

i'd love to be in the Hall, but, ya know, that's not up to me. i went out and did my best, and now it's up to the voters.

The first thing I know about someone in a KC hat is that they're loyal.

by grantfunk on Apr 2, 2008 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

And remember

these are generally kids who only completed high school and then got on a minor league bus.It is also doubtful that even the college level players have an interest in advanced mathematics (only a percentage of all students do I chose my courses in an attempt to avoid math). I am not intending to demean their intelligence but they spend most of their time on physical attributes, and making mechanical changes. Often they have not been introduced to a statistical perspective on their performance and have not been educated on how to apply the numbers even if they know that they exist. Maybe a team that provides these opportunities will have a few more Bannister types and even have a short term advantage (assuming that the teams copy each other every team would have the same system sooner or later). The question then becomes should the Royals invest in statistical education system and will they? Also what would a statistical education do for each player the numbers can be very discouraging and as NY Royal often notes there are times that statistics are misleading or useless. in addition remember that GMDM is of a scouts first background.

by Skirra on Apr 2, 2008 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I was pretty amazed

When I befriended some guys on the baseball team in college, a few of which went pro, how much they didn't care for baseball when they were away from the game.

Relive Royals History at royalsretro.blogspot.com

by RoyalsRetro on Apr 2, 2008 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

2-0 here we come

Some predictions -

1. Butler will have a big day - a couple of extra base hits.
2. Guillen will hit his first HR as a Royal.
3. Gathright will steal two bases.
4. Bannister will have a shaky start to the game due to the cold but settle down in later innings - expect something like 6 2/3 innings pitched, 3 runs, 4 K's, 1 BB.
5. Rogers will work effectively the first time through the Royals lineup but falter after and be removed by the 5th inning - giving up 5 runs.
6. Soria will notch his second save.

Final score - Royals 7 Tigers 4

True. Blue. Third Place in 2008.

by DC Royal on Apr 2, 2008 11:21 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

i'm going to say Rogers makes it through 3 without yielding a hit

and then gives up 7 runs in the 4th

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by marbotty on Apr 2, 2008 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I like the drama...

...of this prediction. My only tweak would be to make it the 5th inning. Couldn't happen to a nicer guy. - TL

by timlacy on Apr 2, 2008 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'll be in and out today

i'm teaching, but i'm gonna leave game day up and running. my gameday audio subscription came up... yesterday. the mlb.tv is tempting, but i'm gonna pass for now.

The first thing I know about someone in a KC hat is that they're loyal.

by grantfunk on Apr 2, 2008 11:23 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Hey Grantfunk,

I'm listening to your music now. From the link on your profile. I like it.

www.rockchalktalk.com for pretty good KU baseball coverage

by James Quinn on Apr 2, 2008 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

lets do this

First gameday thread in awhile. From opening day it looks like they have grown exponentially.

by antidecaf on Apr 2, 2008 12:02 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I'll have to tape the game again,

and watch it tonight. Sorry I won't be here for the banter.

Rogers is a horrible bile producing human being and he is destined for the white fires of hell. This is beyond doubt. While the Royals are clean-limbed honest youth, bubbling with innocent enthusiasm and a sporting love of the game. We all know in the end good must win.

My prediction, the Royals win 99-1. The Tigers cheat while the umpire is distracted to score their run.

www.rockchalktalk.com for pretty good KU baseball coverage

by James Quinn on Apr 2, 2008 12:27 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Kenny Rogers - History's Greatest Monster

Also gave up the first four hit game to Billy Butler, one of many in Billy's Hall of Fame career hopefully.

Relive Royals History at royalsretro.blogspot.com

by RoyalsRetro on Apr 2, 2008 12:36 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Look for

Butler to have a good day.. I just dont see Rogers fairing out to well against him

I love life. Life = Royals

by focs on Apr 2, 2008 12:42 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Ya

I started Butler over Big Papi today in my fantasy league because A. Butler owns Rogers and B. Papi hasnt been hitting. AT ALL

I love life. Life = Royals

by focs on Apr 2, 2008 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nice Adjustment

Kansas City AB R H RBI BB SO LOB AVG
Gathright, CF 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000
Grudzielanek, 2B 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .750
Gordon, 3B 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .200
Guillen, RF 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000
Butler, DH 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .200
Teahen, LF 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .333
Gload, 1B 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .250
Buck, C 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .400
Pena, SS 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .200
Totals 0 0 0 0 0 0 0

Too bad he didn't hit Gload 5th just for the novelty.

The Bad Guys:

Renteria, SS 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .200
Polanco, 2B 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000
Sheffield, DH 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000
Ordonez, RF 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .400
Cabrera, 3B 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .200
Guillen, 1B 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .600
Rodriguez, C 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .200
Jones, J, LF 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000
Inge, CF 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .333

Let's go, boys, to the toppermost of the poppermost!

by philofthenorth on Apr 2, 2008 12:55 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

2 games, 2 different lineups

I'm sick of this guy's constant tinkering. These players will never get used to their roles.

I probably disagree with you.

by NYRoyal on Apr 2, 2008 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

hahahah

I wanna know what love is, I want you to show me

by LeoBloom on Apr 2, 2008 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Leyland's lineup

Polanco should be leading off, Cabrera should be hitting third, and if he wanted to get really crazy. Sheff would be a good #2 hitter.

Relive Royals History at royalsretro.blogspot.com

by RoyalsRetro on Apr 2, 2008 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

THE G MEN!!!!!!!!

I love life. Life = Royals

by focs on Apr 2, 2008 12:57 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Howdy y'all

got a few days off to enjoy the ole ballgame...I'm going Grudz and GLOAD today...I'm saying GLOAD will be the BOD even if he doesn't play...he is the anti-Gambler

Don't be lonesome for your heroes. Be your own hero.

by PhattStairs on Apr 2, 2008 1:00 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Speaking of BOD

My boy Banny has the ball so I at least have a chance at it...

by KCctrell85 on Apr 2, 2008 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

PLAY BALL...

I be in and out for the first few innings and then prolly DVR the rest as I'm passed out...I've been up for 27 hours and celebrating time off with a Guiness x 4

Don't be lonesome for your heroes. Be your own hero.

by PhattStairs on Apr 2, 2008 1:01 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Guiness, like sleep in a bottle. A few pints and you're as good as new!

www.rockchalktalk.com for pretty good KU baseball coverage

by James Quinn on Apr 2, 2008 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Am I the only one

that doesn't have game feed currently? The game is supposed to be on today, correct?

I'm getting tennis. Ugh.

Boyfriend of the Year 2008: It's gonna be big!

by loyal2theroyals on Apr 2, 2008 1:03 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I have it on FSN Midwest

www.rockchalktalk.com for pretty good KU baseball coverage

by James Quinn on Apr 2, 2008 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I have it on FSN

and it *should* be FSN midwest.

But maybe they haven't switched it in the Warrensburg area? Because I'm getting commercials from Florida. And, like I said, tennis.

Boyfriend of the Year 2008: It's gonna be big!

by loyal2theroyals on Apr 2, 2008 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

YEAH!!!!!

Let's go Royals!

Finally coming back to the 'K'!!!! I'm going to be there 7/11/08, vs the SEA Mariners, of course!

by RoyalsFanInMarinerTown on Apr 2, 2008 1:06 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Joey

You can't steal first base.

Relive Royals History at royalsretro.blogspot.com

by RoyalsRetro on Apr 2, 2008 1:08 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I suppose it was inevitable

that they'd keep Grudz off first eventually.

by jonfmorse on Apr 2, 2008 1:11 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

For those without other means to see the game...

MLB Extra Innings has a free preview through April 6. So if it's available via your cable provider or otherwise, check it out.

by 2X2L on Apr 2, 2008 1:11 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Alex

Still getting hosed.

Seriously, is there a memo going around among umpires that Alex sucks?

Relive Royals History at royalsretro.blogspot.com

by RoyalsRetro on Apr 2, 2008 1:13 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Has to be

One umpire is an anomaly; two is a pattern.

by RoyalTex on Apr 2, 2008 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Umps from Nashville..

So at least its not some homer screwing him today.

by KCctrell85 on Apr 2, 2008 1:14 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

That one

actually looked like a strike to me, although a close one.

6-pitch at-bats are always a fine thing, but he's got to start pulling the trigger on 2-strike counts.

by jonfmorse on Apr 2, 2008 1:14 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I think it's just stupid that

I have to watch it online. I can't watch it on my TV even though it says that I should be able to. They always do this shit in the Jeff City area (forgetting to switch feeds between Cards games and Royals games) and now they're doing it here.

Boyfriend of the Year 2008: It's gonna be big!

by loyal2theroyals on Apr 2, 2008 1:14 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

PREACH IT

I came running back from my working out all excited and what do I get? Tennis. Life sucks.

by campfiresongs on Apr 2, 2008 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

OK, gotta run. I'll watch the rest on tape later.

Take care all. Keep your eyes on Rogers. He cheats.

www.rockchalktalk.com for pretty good KU baseball coverage

by James Quinn on Apr 2, 2008 1:14 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

rogers is hittable

i want a win

I wanna know what love is, I want you to show me

by LeoBloom on Apr 2, 2008 1:16 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

lets go banny!

Accidentally not thedude925 anymore. I do hate this new name.

by wildthang on Apr 2, 2008 1:17 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I love

how Banny just throws strikes. It's so refreshing to not have to worry about someone being wild. Knock on Wood.

by I need more Esteban on Apr 2, 2008 1:18 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

6th grade band is calling

and sheffield is striking...

The first thing I know about someone in a KC hat is that they're loyal.

by grantfunk on Apr 2, 2008 1:18 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Nice inning.

8 more like that, I'm content!

by jonfmorse on Apr 2, 2008 1:18 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

wow beautiful double play

lets stick it to rogers here.

Accidentally not thedude925 anymore. I do hate this new name.

by wildthang on Apr 2, 2008 1:19 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Bannister is the 2008 CY winner...book it

I've seen all I need to see.

I probably disagree with you.

by NYRoyal on Apr 2, 2008 1:19 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

the sky is the limit!!!

banny ftw!

Accidentally not thedude925 anymore. I do hate this new name.

by wildthang on Apr 2, 2008 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Really? I Thought

He induced a grounder to 3B.

Let's go, boys, to the toppermost of the poppermost!

by philofthenorth on Apr 2, 2008 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Seriously

I love Banny, but he's going to have to start racking up more strike threes before I drink the kool-aid.

The glass, however, is sitting right next to me.

by jonfmorse on Apr 2, 2008 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Me Too

And I'm really thirsty.

Let's go, boys, to the toppermost of the poppermost!

by philofthenorth on Apr 2, 2008 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Look for

Guillen and Butler to show Rogers who's boss

I love life. Life = Royals

by focs on Apr 2, 2008 1:20 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

time for guillen to do something good

I wanna know what love is, I want you to show me

by LeoBloom on Apr 2, 2008 1:21 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Billy

Hasn't failed to hit the ball 300 feet so far this year, I think

by jonfmorse on Apr 2, 2008 1:22 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Crap

We are not being very patient. I'd appreciate if we were getting hits but 1-2-3 again.

by I need more Esteban on Apr 2, 2008 1:23 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

So How Many

Pitches was that?

Let's go, boys, to the toppermost of the poppermost!

by philofthenorth on Apr 2, 2008 1:24 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

not enough

the royals do realize the tiger bullpen is bad, right?

I wanna know what love is, I want you to show me

by LeoBloom on Apr 2, 2008 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He threw 5 in the 2nd after throwing 15 in the 1st.

by 2X2L on Apr 2, 2008 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

not enough

Accidentally not thedude925 anymore. I do hate this new name.

by wildthang on Apr 2, 2008 1:24 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

butler

was three years old when kenny was drafted

by KC Masterpiece on Apr 2, 2008 1:24 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Oh man, it's a good day for sure!

I got my Royals tix last night for the game in July at the K. I bought tickets to see 311 at Sandstone the day before on the 10th of July, and I have a hell of a 3 week vacation planned in MO, this July!

I am quite jazzed about this.

BONUS BUCKS: ROYALS BASEBALL TODAY!

I went ahead and upgraded to MLB tv instead of just audio, today. I do this every year. I have no idea why I ever get the radio.

Finally coming back to the 'K'!!!! I'm going to be there 7/11/08, vs the SEA Mariners, of course!

by RoyalsFanInMarinerTown on Apr 2, 2008 1:26 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

So you can

Listen to Denny.

by jonfmorse on Apr 2, 2008 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Snoop

with 311!?! What is up with that, that is going to be a crazy mix of fans.

by I need more Esteban on Apr 2, 2008 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

or just a lot of people

who like weed

Accidentally not thedude925 anymore. I do hate this new name.

by wildthang on Apr 2, 2008 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Right?

I finally get to take my kids to a 311 show, since it is outside, and I don't have to worry about them crammed inside with all the cigarette smoke.

Finally coming back to the 'K'!!!! I'm going to be there 7/11/08, vs the SEA Mariners, of course!

by RoyalsFanInMarinerTown on Apr 2, 2008 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I dig the blue glove he's rolling

pretty sweet

Accidentally not thedude925 anymore. I do hate this new name.

by wildthang on Apr 2, 2008 1:27 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

yea

the blue glove is sweet

by KC Masterpiece on Apr 2, 2008 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good one!...

...I just hope that "luck" holds for the year. - TL

by timlacy on Apr 2, 2008 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It held throughout 2007

For most guys it is luck. For some guys, it is not.

I probably disagree with you.

by NYRoyal on Apr 2, 2008 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

"Luck"

Do you not subscribe to the idea that a pitcher has little impact on balls put in play?

Relive Royals History at royalsretro.blogspot.com

by RoyalsRetro on Apr 2, 2008 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i subscribe to it

butpark and weather ar ealso factors

banny didnt make comerica spacious or cold, but its helping today

I wanna know what love is, I want you to show me

by LeoBloom on Apr 2, 2008 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

There are some types of pitchers and individuals who can indeed affect what happens with regard to balls in play

I posited in a diary/fanpost during the offseason that Bannister may well be one of them because of his superior pitch selection ability. However, this is pretty untestable.

I probably disagree with you.

by NYRoyal on Apr 2, 2008 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Can't speak for him

But I do think certain types of pitchers have better "luck" than others. Extreme groundball pitchers (barring incompetent defense) and extreme flyball pitchers who don't allow a ton of homers probably make a fair bit of their own luck.

by jonfmorse on Apr 2, 2008 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

there we go

lets keep this going and add some offense to the equation.

Accidentally not thedude925 anymore. I do hate this new name.

by wildthang on Apr 2, 2008 1:29 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

After two innings: Rogers 20 pitches, Banny 19.

by 2X2L on Apr 2, 2008 1:29 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

nice..

I will take a back seat and let you handle the counts 2X2L..

by KCctrell85 on Apr 2, 2008 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I can't hang around for the whole game, so please get back up in front!

by 2X2L on Apr 2, 2008 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Pitch count through 2..

Rogers - 20 Bannister - 19

by KCctrell85 on Apr 2, 2008 1:30 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Milwaukee at Chicago, starting in about an hour. Boston at Oakland another hour after that.

by 2X2L on Apr 2, 2008 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think we should be more

aggressive at the plate.

Let's Go Blues!

by powderbluesfor08 on Apr 2, 2008 1:31 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

No excuse

For allowing Kenny to throw more than 70 pitches today

by jonfmorse on Apr 2, 2008 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

2 year guaranteed contract

Yay!

Relive Royals History at royalsretro.blogspot.com

by RoyalsRetro on Apr 2, 2008 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

At least TPJ

Took a couple of pitches before flying out.

by jonfmorse on Apr 2, 2008 1:34 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

27 for Rodgers after 3.

by 2X2L on Apr 2, 2008 1:34 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

i blame RRs hatred of Rogers

this is weak

I wanna know what love is, I want you to show me

by LeoBloom on Apr 2, 2008 1:35 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

i love how inept we look sometimes

i hate kenny rogers so much

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by wildthang on Apr 2, 2008 1:35 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

on the other hand,

the game is scoreless. They're not losing.

by CaptainDT on Apr 2, 2008 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

this reminds me of that gamein seattle

where banny and beak each had no hitters going for like 5 innings

by royalsreview on Apr 2, 2008 1:36 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

whoever I talked to about the feed

couldn't do anything for me because I'm not the account holder. At least I've got the RRN to keep me company.

Boyfriend of the Year 2008: It's gonna be big!

by loyal2theroyals on Apr 2, 2008 1:37 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

"Not the account holder"

is a pretty weak copout. The customer service rep you talked to is not on top of his/her game today.

by stuckinstl12 on Apr 2, 2008 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

just frustrating because

I'm in the dorms. I don't even know who to contact about this shit.

And now I have to listen to Bob Davis. Worst broadcasting choice EVER for radio feed.

Boyfriend of the Year 2008: It's gonna be big!

by loyal2theroyals on Apr 2, 2008 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i like it

a little chin music for i-rod... then the K

by KC Masterpiece on Apr 2, 2008 1:39 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

8-pitch K of Pudge.

by 2X2L on Apr 2, 2008 1:39 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Nice K

Beautiful mix of pitches to K Ivan

Unfortunately, his curveball has been all over the place so far. He has no control of it. The rest of his pitches look good.

I probably disagree with you.

by NYRoyal on Apr 2, 2008 1:39 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

there we go

good job

Accidentally not thedude925 anymore. I do hate this new name.

by wildthang on Apr 2, 2008 1:39 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Nice curve there to Jacque Jones

To induce a weak grounder. That batted ball out certainly wasn't luck.

I probably disagree with you.

by NYRoyal on Apr 2, 2008 1:40 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

jacque jones has always annoyed me

although now i think he's underrated

by royalsreview on Apr 2, 2008 1:40 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Wasn't He

Overrated for years?

Let's go, boys, to the toppermost of the poppermost!

by philofthenorth on Apr 2, 2008 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Rogers Authored The

Second most famous "pine tar incident" of all time.

Let's go, boys, to the toppermost of the poppermost!

by philofthenorth on Apr 2, 2008 1:40 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Yikes, great pitches from Bannister to Inge

Nicely placed fastball, great curves and a very good slider/cutter to K him.

I probably disagree with you.

by NYRoyal on Apr 2, 2008 1:42 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

got an email this morning from

someone who was really not a fan of my thoughts on rogers...

by royalsreview on Apr 2, 2008 1:42 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Whoops

You were harsh, but fair. It was a bit of a polemic, but Kenny has earned it. I'm sure a lot of Tigers fans would like that kind of thing.

I probably disagree with you.

by NYRoyal on Apr 2, 2008 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Royals 2008 offensive strategy

Go hitless in the early innings, dominate late. Clearly, they're just stalling until they reach the Detroit bullpen -- quality strategy.

by andrewmiller on Apr 2, 2008 1:42 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Never going to get there

at this rate. Rogers on pace to throw an 81-pitch CG.

by jonfmorse on Apr 2, 2008 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I've got 35 for Banny after 3, MLB Gameday has 34. They have a 1-1 count on Jones when he grounded out, I had 1-2.

Anyway, be back later, so the pitch clicker is up for grabs.

by 2X2L on Apr 2, 2008 1:42 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Banny Is Crunching

#'s furiously in his head.

Let's go, boys, to the toppermost of the poppermost!

by philofthenorth on Apr 2, 2008 1:42 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

The Sight Of

Cabrera charging must be terrifying.

Let's go, boys, to the toppermost of the poppermost!

by philofthenorth on Apr 2, 2008 1:45 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

no chance

of throwing gath out there

by KC Masterpiece on Apr 2, 2008 1:45 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Nice. One of Gathright's patented IF hits

Most hitters would have been an easy out on that one.

I probably disagree with you.

by NYRoyal on Apr 2, 2008 1:45 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Let's Put The

Turf back in!

Let's go, boys, to the toppermost of the poppermost!

by philofthenorth on Apr 2, 2008 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

god hes fast

Accidentally not thedude925 anymore. I do hate this new name.

by wildthang on Apr 2, 2008 1:46 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Odds that Joey is running here?

85%

I probably disagree with you.

by NYRoyal on Apr 2, 2008 1:46 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

No, less than 5%

I probably disagree with you.

by NYRoyal on Apr 2, 2008 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Odds the SB attempt is successful?

50% with this pitcher-catcher combo

I probably disagree with you.

by NYRoyal on Apr 2, 2008 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think he peed a little

Either that or there is a pine tar stain down there.

I probably disagree with you.

by NYRoyal on Apr 2, 2008 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

All Fear

The Gator speed.

Let's go, boys, to the toppermost of the poppermost!

by philofthenorth on Apr 2, 2008 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Kenny's going to

exceed his pitch count on throws to first

by jonfmorse on Apr 2, 2008 1:47 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

booooo

don't be a wimp kenny!

Accidentally not thedude925 anymore. I do hate this new name.

by wildthang on Apr 2, 2008 1:48 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

It's great

how Joey can really change the flow of a game over there at first. I love it.

by I need more Esteban on Apr 2, 2008 1:49 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Now Rogers Fears

The Grit.

Let's go, boys, to the toppermost of the poppermost!

by philofthenorth on Apr 2, 2008 1:49 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Productive out

Buster Olney is proud.

by jonfmorse on Apr 2, 2008 1:50 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

What??

How was that first pitch to Gordon not called a strike? I am SHOCKED.

by KCctrell85 on Apr 2, 2008 1:50 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I don't know if Gathright is a factor here

But Rogers isn't throwing so many strikes now

I probably disagree with you.

by NYRoyal on Apr 2, 2008 1:51 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Unless he gets frustrated

and starts hacking at everything with two strikes 'cause nobody'll call it a ball.

by jonfmorse on Apr 2, 2008 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

A-Gord

needs to go down swinging there. I know they are close but still. They are calling him shitty so go for it.

by I need more Esteban on Apr 2, 2008 1:53 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

No kidding!

He's a gifted hitter and he's not going to get the call on/off the black, so swing away!

Don't Stop Believing!

by KC Chris on Apr 2, 2008 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

no worries, Guillen is up

by royalsreview on Apr 2, 2008 1:54 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

guillen

like to see him witha run scoring hit here

Accidentally not thedude925 anymore. I do hate this new name.

by wildthang on Apr 2, 2008 1:54 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Are his reactions

(flipping his bat thinking its a walk) perpetuating bad calls from the umps? Its like they have a vendetta against him...

by KCctrell85 on Apr 2, 2008 1:55 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

impossible to know

but it wouldnt surprise me... they may think he's a punk

by royalsreview on Apr 2, 2008 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nice Walk!

Making Kenny throw some pitches finally.

by I need more Esteban on Apr 2, 2008 1:57 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

22 pitches this inning

YAY!

Finally coming back to the 'K'!!!! I'm going to be there 7/11/08, vs the SEA Mariners, of course!

by RoyalsFanInMarinerTown on Apr 2, 2008 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

here comes the dinger..

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by marbotty on Apr 2, 2008 1:57 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Don't get cocky kid.

My apologies to Han Solo

by CaptainDT on Apr 2, 2008 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

by dinger, I meant CapnDT

how's dc?

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by marbotty on Apr 2, 2008 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

alright alright

Billy is gonna come through here. I can feel it in my bones.

Accidentally not thedude925 anymore. I do hate this new name.

by wildthang on Apr 2, 2008 1:57 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I like our patience this inning

Wish we'd show it more often!

Relive Royals History at royalsretro.blogspot.com

by RoyalsRetro on Apr 2, 2008 1:58 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I like that they gave him the green light

But that was not a pitch you hit when you have a 3-0 count

Relive Royals History at royalsretro.blogspot.com

by RoyalsRetro on Apr 2, 2008 1:59 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

27 pitch inning

Equaling the first three.

by jonfmorse on Apr 2, 2008 1:59 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Interesting that Butler had the green light on 3-0

Too bad he kind of wasted it.

I probably disagree with you.

by NYRoyal on Apr 2, 2008 1:59 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

It Was A

Good thought, and it sounds like he took it back up the middle; BABIP at work.

Let's go, boys, to the toppermost of the poppermost!

by philofthenorth on Apr 2, 2008 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Does the new thread

go pretty slow at times for others???

by I need more Esteban on Apr 2, 2008 2:00 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Not As Bad

Today; it was virtually unusable Monday.

Let's go, boys, to the toppermost of the poppermost!

by philofthenorth on Apr 2, 2008 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

seems fine to me

but it got slow yesterday, err, monday

the super long thread is an issue, probably more for your browser than the site itself being slow, if that makes sense

by royalsreview on Apr 2, 2008 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah

I bet that thread was using up several hundred meg of ram

by jonfmorse on Apr 2, 2008 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

We're on pace

For a 600-comment game two

by jonfmorse on Apr 2, 2008 2:01 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Against the vaunted Tigers offense

Royals pitchers have a 2.57 ERA

Relive Royals History at royalsretro.blogspot.com

by RoyalsRetro on Apr 2, 2008 2:02 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

it looks like I successfully predicted

being no-hit through three.

but where was the 7 run fourth inning?

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by marbotty on Apr 2, 2008 2:04 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

They're saving up

to score 30 on Baltimore

by jonfmorse on Apr 2, 2008 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Anyone else

like Bucks defense there on the ball in the dirt? I wonder if Olivo is able to keep the ball in front of him like that..

by KCctrell85 on Apr 2, 2008 2:06 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Good to hear..

That was just me wondering aloud since I don't know a whole lot about Olivo...

by KCctrell85 on Apr 2, 2008 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yesterday

he teleported three feet to his right to stop a bad pitch

by jonfmorse on Apr 2, 2008 2:06 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

yatta!

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by marbotty on Apr 2, 2008 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

bannister just doing work

lets get some freaking runs

Accidentally not thedude925 anymore. I do hate this new name.

by wildthang on Apr 2, 2008 2:08 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

A quick Bannister question

If he has a significantly low BABIP again this year, does it prove that his particular skill set allows him to affect that and that it's not just luck?

I'm just asking. I don't really have an answer.

I probably disagree with you.

by NYRoyal on Apr 2, 2008 2:09 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I'd say it's a data point

But still not "proof". More like "evidence". He'd have to be consistent for 3-4 years before it's really meaningful, I'd say.

by jonfmorse on Apr 2, 2008 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

do you ever wonder

if Maggs take his helmet off, whether he's actually bald underneath?

Kind of like the groucho marx glasses, except with what appears to be a irish setter glued to a helmet.

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by marbotty on Apr 2, 2008 2:10 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

No

He's got a mullet-perm. Saw it yesterday.

by jonfmorse on Apr 2, 2008 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Anyone else

tried the wild cherry m&m's?

Damn they're good...just ate a whole bag.

Let's Go Blues!

by powderbluesfor08 on Apr 2, 2008 2:11 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

They are just like eating a regular one,

cept a little bigger...and taste just like a choc. covered cherry...no-goo though....I think I taste the cherry in both the shell and the choc.

Let's Go Blues!

by powderbluesfor08 on Apr 2, 2008 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yea

its like a choc covered cheery taste, with no cherry

I wanna know what love is, I want you to show me

by LeoBloom on Apr 2, 2008 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

As long as we're off-topic

I want to state my love for the new Subway jingle "Five dollar foot long." I think its catchy enough it could make it as a pop song.

Relive Royals History at royalsretro.blogspot.com

by RoyalsRetro on Apr 2, 2008 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Seriously

That thing just sticks in your head!

by I need more Esteban on Apr 2, 2008 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'd be more impressed

if they hadn't been regularly doing "3 footlongs for $10" sales last year.

Damned inflation.

by jonfmorse on Apr 2, 2008 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I cant eat Subway any more

since I discovered Penn Station!

Let's Go Blues!

by powderbluesfor08 on Apr 2, 2008 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Potbelly's

rules the world

by jonfmorse on Apr 2, 2008 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Which Wich

Royals, NBA, Golden Hurricane, Hawkeyes, Chiefs, and KU basketball, in that order.

by Rowyal on Apr 2, 2008 11:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not sure about the Subway jingle..

But for those in the Lawrence area... Tell me the Pizza Street commercials aren't the most catchy tune in the entire world?? Everyone I know has that thing memorized and its not exactly something you would go out of your way to learn.. I would pay them money to stop playing that freaking ad.

by KCctrell85 on Apr 2, 2008 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah

Lets start a fund or something.

by I need more Esteban on Apr 2, 2008 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh god

They have those in Olathe too and that song will haunt me until I die. It is a good deal, though...

by campfiresongs on Apr 2, 2008 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

At Pizza Street, Pizza Street

Try our $3.99 buffet, Its all you can eat, Pizza Street Pizza Street, Great Pizza Great Price, All you can eat for $3.99... Kill me now.

by KCctrell85 on Apr 2, 2008 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I might just be overly sensitive

but that little girl with the huge eyes biting into the piece of pizza is a little bit terrifying.

by campfiresongs on Apr 2, 2008 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Choad really gritted that out

I probably disagree with you.

by NYRoyal on Apr 2, 2008 2:13 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Quite an explosion

Relive Royals History at royalsretro.blogspot.com

by RoyalsRetro on Apr 2, 2008 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Correction

Exglosion

I probably disagree with you.

by NYRoyal on Apr 2, 2008 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

If Hillman ran Grudz, he'd run Gload

and there he goes

I probably disagree with you.

by NYRoyal on Apr 2, 2008 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

time for a patented hillman hit and run

I wanna know what love is, I want you to show me

by LeoBloom on Apr 2, 2008 2:15 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Let's go small ball!

Relive Royals History at royalsretro.blogspot.com

by RoyalsRetro on Apr 2, 2008 2:16 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

did anyone actually watch that youtube clip?

RR posted?

That sports caster has some things on his mind

I wanna know what love is, I want you to show me

by LeoBloom on Apr 2, 2008 2:16 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

holy cow

the Todd Day bit was hilarious!

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by marbotty on Apr 2, 2008 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Milwaukee (pause, touches cap)

damn

I wanna know what love is, I want you to show me

by LeoBloom on Apr 2, 2008 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

seems like something you would have seen on chappelle

i hope to meet someone from milwaukee soon so i can refer to this

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by marbotty on Apr 2, 2008 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

but that sportscaster

he has just seen milwaukee get ripped for too long

he's HAD ENOUGH

I wanna know what love is, I want you to show me

by LeoBloom on Apr 2, 2008 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Kenny Rogers-Ivan Rodriguez

Pretty much the worst pitcher-catcher combo you could possibly run on.

Relive Royals History at royalsretro.blogspot.com

by RoyalsRetro on Apr 2, 2008 2:16 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Pitch count climbing nicely

I probably disagree with you.

by NYRoyal on Apr 2, 2008 2:16 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Let's be fair

Other than Gordo, he was the only guy the first time through the order to see four pitches.

by jonfmorse on Apr 2, 2008 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

True

But he really shouldn't ever swing at the first pitch. he needs to see as many pitches as possible

I probably disagree with you.

by NYRoyal on Apr 2, 2008 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed

Just cutting him some slack for not sucking the first at-bat

by jonfmorse on Apr 2, 2008 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

We are

officially in a pitchers duel.

by I need more Esteban on Apr 2, 2008 2:18 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I'm looking forward to the bullpen duel

We certainly have the edge there

I probably disagree with you.

by NYRoyal on Apr 2, 2008 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

how long does TPJ stay under .200

I say two weeks

I wanna know what love is, I want you to show me

by LeoBloom on Apr 2, 2008 2:19 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

how long

can banny hold the tigers in check?

Accidentally not thedude925 anymore. I do hate this new name.

by wildthang on Apr 2, 2008 2:19 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

More BABIP musings

I wonder if "inducing popups" is a skill.

by jonfmorse on Apr 2, 2008 2:22 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Sometimes, I think it is

see above

I probably disagree with you.

by NYRoyal on Apr 2, 2008 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sometimes when you give a batter a pitch that he didn't expect, he'll make poor contact on it

Bannister is the master of that. helps keep your BABIP down.

I probably disagree with you.

by NYRoyal on Apr 2, 2008 2:22 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

hopefully that means a low home run rate?

was that consistent with his numbers last year?

by Sean O Se on Apr 2, 2008 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He's a contact and flyball pitcher

So he's going to give up his share of HR. But he didn't give up more than his share of HR's.

I probably disagree with you.

by NYRoyal on Apr 2, 2008 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He's no Brad Radke

He gave up 15 last year. Not awesome, but not bad either.

by jonfmorse on Apr 2, 2008 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Cabrera ticked...

Banny's got his number

by Cleveland on Apr 2, 2008 2:22 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

how many times

are they going to rehash that cabrera homer?

Accidentally not thedude925 anymore. I do hate this new name.

by wildthang on Apr 2, 2008 2:22 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Funny

It wasn't that much of a bomb - HitTracker classifies the HR as a "Just Enough"

by Cleveland on Apr 2, 2008 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wow, Banny must know that Guillen loves swinging at high fastballs

He gave him three. K'd on the last one

I probably disagree with you.

by NYRoyal on Apr 2, 2008 2:23 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Couldn't Catch Up

To Banny's high heat?

Let's go, boys, to the toppermost of the poppermost!

by philofthenorth on Apr 2, 2008 2:24 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Then There's Hope

For Rowdy, right?

Let's go, boys, to the toppermost of the poppermost!

by philofthenorth on Apr 2, 2008 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

How many speeds does Rowdy throw at?

I'm familiar with the 80 mph fastball. Does he have a 68 mph change? I hope so

I probably disagree with you.

by NYRoyal on Apr 2, 2008 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

FINALLY!!!!!!

I had to wait for the damn e-mail, which I had to switch e-mail accounts, so that I could post on the new format. I've been following along, great job so far fellas!

"Is this heaven?"...."N