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Joe Sheehan Enters Our Hell

Joe, trust me. You wouldn't last a day as a Royals fan.

Bad, Bad, Baseball

 

First inning, Royals come to bat down a run. Joey Gathright takes three pitches, two of them balls, then bunts his way on to first. David DeJesus comes to the plate and walks on seven pitches, taking five of them. Carmona has thrown 11 pitches, six of them balls. Mark Teahen comes up with two on and no one out. The first three pitches to him are balls. Carmona has now thrown 14 pitches, nine of them out of the strike zone, and is one pitch from walking the bases loaded. You have to give him a chance to do that, right?

Teahen doesn’t. He swings at the 3-0 and fouls it off. In fact, the Royals swing at Carmona’s next eight pitches, scoring one run on a groundball single inside the first-base line, but leaving a big inning just hanging there when Alex Gordon grounds into a double play on the first pitch he sees. Look at that sequence again: Carmona–who has walked 19 men in 23 innings when Teahen steps up–throws nine balls in his first 14 pitches, and the Royals swing at the next eight. That is unacceptably stupid baseball.

It gets better. The Indians get two runs in the top of the second, retaking a lead. In the bottom of the inning, Miguel Olivo takes a strike and then singles. Ross Gload comes up with one on and no one out, having watched the previous inning end in part because his teammates wouldn’t let Carmona hang himself…and he proceeds to make two outs on one pitch, grounding into an easy double play. Alberto Callaspo comes up, and walks on five pitches, the last four in a row. Tony Pena watches ball one go by, making five consecutive balls by Carmona, then hacks, hitting a Baltimore Chop single. Joey Gathright comes up and immediately swings, fouling to the catcher. Just like in the first inning, the Royals made stupid decisions to let a pitcher who was happily getting himself into trouble out of trouble with ease.

Through two innings, Carmona has thrown 33 pitches. He has fallen behind every single batter who saw more than two offerings. The Royals have swung at 15 of his pitches. They have four hits–all singles, three of the infield variety–six foul balls, one swing and miss, and six outs on four other balls in play. They’ve taken 18 pitches, 14 of which have been called balls. Any kind of nonridiculous approach at the plate would probably have led to multiple runs. Instead, thanks in part to Brett Tomko, the Royals are down 7-2 (through three innings) and thinking about Game Two.

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Bit early to say that I think

The early returns are not very good, but he has also emphasized pitching, which has improved dramatically.

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by RoyalsRetro on Apr 25, 2008 9:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

and the amazing thing is...

all this was coming in a DOUBLE-HEADER!

by Freneau on Apr 24, 2008 10:27 PM EDT reply actions  

Eloquent

Yep, —-I just don’t have the words

by freebyrd528 on Apr 25, 2008 1:18 AM EDT reply actions  

Frustrating

the complete lack of patience from our hitters at this level.

by lordbyronk on Apr 25, 2008 4:55 AM EDT reply actions  

Time for a new hitting coach?

I don’t hear Mike Barnett’s name come up much, but he is the maestro presiding over this offensive masterpiece and has now been in charge of our hitters since May 1, 2006. We can argue the merits of a hitting coach and how he may have a negligible effect on hitters, but I can’t think of one example of a hitter that has blossomed under his tutelage in the nearly two years since Barnett has been in KC. At the very least, the team’s awful OBP and (as Sheehan documents above) inability to take pitches would seem to me that something is not getting through. Let’s get someone else in there.

by cookierojas73 on Apr 25, 2008 6:53 AM EDT reply actions  

How would sacking Barnett change anything?

I forget who said it on another thread, but hitting coaches really don’t have that big of an impact on an organization’s approach toward taking/swinging at pitches. Barnett works on technique, he has very little control over the organizational philosophy toward hitting. Calling for his head won’t address that.

And FWIW, Barnett was the one who gave John Buck the leg kick at the start of the 2007 seasons before Buddy intervened.

by DarthYoshi on Apr 25, 2008 10:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed

I think Barnett’s done a pretty good job actually. From the few snippets I’ve read, he does preach plate discipline. But you can’t turn chicken salad out of chicken….poop. Plate discipline is an awfully hard thing to teach at the major league level – it needs to happen well before that, probably before they even become professionals.

Relive Royals History at royalsretro.blogspot.com

by RoyalsRetro on Apr 27, 2008 8:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks for the article

for summing up my frustration also with the Royals hitters in the 1st two innings for not taking pitches. I could not believe it. I think it is time for Hillman to start putting the take sign on because these guys appear not to be playing smart baseball. Now here we are in our very familiar 5th place on 4/25. It will be interesting to see how this team reacts. I still think this team has the potential to be a very good baseball team if they start thinking about what they are doing at the plate.

by BlueBloodRoyal on Apr 25, 2008 8:47 AM EDT reply actions  

Blame our defense too

Gload bobbled an easy double-play ball in the first inning, Gordon let one get right by him for an officially-charged error, everyone seemed to be deflecting the ball away from one another. Tomko was not great, but he was certainly a legit # 5 starter. With decent fielding behind him, the Royals’ 6 runs could have prevented him from being the loser.

Chaim Mattis Keller New York City's # 1 Royals fan!

by cmkeller on Apr 25, 2008 10:20 AM EDT reply actions  

What is up with...

Mark Teahen continuing to swing away on 3-0 pitches. His career slugging is 426. TAKE!!!

by djk royal on Apr 25, 2008 11:20 AM EDT reply actions  

If you didn't

full thing, do. The last line makes it.

Not to duck my head to avoid the falling sky, but does anyone get the feeling that, for all his talk about OBP being a “no-brainer,” that maybe Hillman doesn’t quite understand how OBP is generated?

by Matt Klaassen on Apr 25, 2008 11:37 AM EDT reply actions  

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