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Game 23 Open Thread - Jays (10-13) at Royals (9-13)

Toronto Blue Jays at Kansas City Royals, Apr 25, 2008 8:10 PM EDT


Days Until RR Fest: 1

It's a site tradition that whenever the Royals face off against A.J. Burnett that I mention an odd perk in his 5 year/$55 million dollar contract (insert Meche comparisons here) with the Blue Jays:

  • $6M signing bonus
  • 06:$1M, 07:$12M, 08:$12M, 09:$12M, 10:$12M
  • Burnett may opt out of the contract after 2008
  • limited no-trade clause allowing Burnett to block deals to 15 clubs
  • deal includes 8 round-trip limousine trips per season between Toronto & Burnett's Maryland home for his wife

 

Eight hours in a limo. Fun! I wish I was married to a rich guy!

I'm crushed that Greinke is pitching tonight and not tomorrow, as I was hoping to see him live at the K.

Just a reminder, tomorrow is Royals Review Fest. Look for a blue Silverado in the East lot before tomorrow's game and a "Gload Will Explode" sign in the stands during it. I'll have some food and drinks on hand, and also some free video games if anyone wants them (MLB 08 The Show for PS3). Check this thread for more info, or shoot me an email.

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Zach,

you’re probably going to need to toss a shut out…no pressure!!

I have many leather bound books...

by juano on Apr 25, 2008 6:14 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Second!

To bemoan the Royals’ eternal crapitude!

by Eppenweb on Apr 25, 2008 6:15 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

A blue silverado?

I had you figured for a purple Taurus or a green VW vanagon. A silverado tho? Didnt see that coming.

by MKforKC on Apr 25, 2008 6:29 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Getting ready to brave the wind and cold.

My first game of the year, see if there is still any excitement out at the ballpark despite our familiar spot at the bottom of the Central.

by wetleg on Apr 25, 2008 7:25 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I hope tonight isn't regression night at the K,

Zack needs to start K’ing more batters. That being said, I think we can get to Burnett. Call it a reverse lock theory: if we can get three-hit by Cliff Lee, we’ll hang some crooked numbers on A.J., right?

Agh. I will make it down to the K this year, and you all will have notice so that hopefully I can meet as many of you as possible, but this weekend is Sectionals for my Ultimate Disc club at college…so I’ll be at Bowdoin tomorrow and on Sunday. Bummer. Well, sort of. Can’t really complain about chasing a plastic flying thingy.

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Apr 25, 2008 7:31 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Lineups!

Bloo Jays:

Grit Personified – SS
Hill – 2B
Rios – RF
V. Wells – CF
Stairs – DH
Rolen – 3B
Overbay – 1B
Stewart – LF
Barajas – C

Our Heroes:

DDJ – CF
Callaspo – 2B
Gordon – 3B
Guillen – LF
Teahen – RF
Butler – DH
Gload – 1B
Buck – C
Pena – SS

and Greinke v. Burnett, of course. A.J. carries a nice little 6.85 ERA into this game. I fully expect the final score to be 1-0.

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Apr 25, 2008 8:07 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Though, a couple things:

I like moving Gordon up. As Will said, he’s actually been showing power. Those first three hitters look like a good group to me, and if Guillen continues to make progress I’ll take it. I’d move Butler up one and swap Buck into the six spot since he’s been known to have a good power month or two, and Teahen needs to focus on driving the ball. Let him hack from the seven spot if you’re not going to use him at 2.

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Apr 25, 2008 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

God damn you to hell, you little

albino rat of a shortstop. Go back to the national league where I can pretend you don’t exist.

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Apr 25, 2008 8:12 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Fastballs at 90, 92, 95 from Greinke

then two sliders in the mid-80s. Apparently cookin’ with gas tonight.

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Apr 25, 2008 8:15 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Teahen Is Still

In RF but Guillie is back at cleanup.

I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.

by philofthenorth on Apr 25, 2008 8:15 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Yea, at least he moved Gordon up though

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Apr 25, 2008 8:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hee hee

I was waiting for Zack to throw that curve to Hill.

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Apr 25, 2008 8:20 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I guess

V-Wells has decided to have an 800 OPS this year.

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Apr 25, 2008 8:21 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Why Am I

Getting the Jays’ crew on KCSP?

I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.

by philofthenorth on Apr 25, 2008 8:22 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Wish I could help

but DirecTV extra innings doesn’t kick in for me until I get home for the summer.

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Apr 25, 2008 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Let's hope the move of Teahen to RF is permanent . . .

Since he was clearly getting bad looks at balls in LF. Let’s also hope Gordon and Butler stay higher in the lineup.

by Eppenweb on Apr 25, 2008 8:24 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

23 K's Now

For Guillie; that isn’t easy to do.

I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.

by philofthenorth on Apr 25, 2008 8:31 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Yes

And Guillen seems to swing through a lot of breaking balls.

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Apr 25, 2008 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I am at the Super 8 in Independence...

so excited to be this close to the K…

the wireless isn’t working in the room however, so I’ve got to use the computer in the lobby

by royalsreview on Apr 25, 2008 8:32 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Wireless...

Another thing that I need to convince my family to get this summer.

Greinke ERA update: 1.20.

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Apr 25, 2008 8:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'll Bet They

Didn’t leave the light on for you, either.

I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.

by philofthenorth on Apr 25, 2008 8:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Watching the ESPN game update . . .

the last two balls went right down the middle of the strike zone. Was that reflective at all of reality?

by Eppenweb on Apr 25, 2008 8:35 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Zach doesn't have it tonight . . .

seems to be struggling through every batter. We’ll see if he can keep Rolen from scoring.

by Eppenweb on Apr 25, 2008 8:37 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I'm sorry, but 8 years of this has left my patience really thin with bad baseball

I mean, when will the Royals learn to take a freakin’ pitch already!
Anyway, I no longer have faith, I need to see proof. Until proof, I am a cynic.

by Eppenweb on Apr 25, 2008 8:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The Infield Popup

Is a pitcher’s best friend.

I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.

by philofthenorth on Apr 25, 2008 8:40 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

god bless you royals

5 pitch innings.

Accidentally not thedude925 anymore. I do hate this new name.

by wildthang on Apr 25, 2008 8:46 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

What I want to know is what it's going to take . . .

to get these guys to take pitches when their manager is supposedly “emphasizing” it and the guys still swing at anything within 5 feet.

by Eppenweb on Apr 25, 2008 8:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah

its getting to be kinda pathetic

Accidentally not thedude925 anymore. I do hate this new name.

by wildthang on Apr 25, 2008 8:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i think DDJ will start to spark our offense

maybe not tonight, but sooooon.

please.

by Sean O Se on Apr 25, 2008 8:58 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

callaspo may be empty average

but at least he has an average, unlike tpj.

by Sean O Se on Apr 25, 2008 8:59 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

balk!!!

bok bok bok!

ddj caused that.

by Sean O Se on Apr 25, 2008 9:00 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

One Thing Callie Never

Does is K.

I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.

by philofthenorth on Apr 25, 2008 9:01 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

callaspo strike out

mlb stats say that’s his first of 2008.

by Sean O Se on Apr 25, 2008 9:01 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

best case scenario

team’s offensive becomes only moderately bad, meche gets back to 4.0 ERA for the year, and z-dog and banny-dog keep dominating. is 75-78 wins then a reasonable prediction?

by Sean O Se on Apr 25, 2008 9:08 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Well, at least Gordon is taking pitches . . .

too bad he’s K’ing instead of BB’ing

by Eppenweb on Apr 25, 2008 9:10 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

OT dinner question

Boneless buffalo wings, pizza, or burritos.

Proud father of a budding Royals fan.

by Skirra on Apr 25, 2008 9:11 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

What happened to they guy that hated Teahen?

Proud father of a budding Royals fan.

by Skirra on Apr 25, 2008 9:12 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Frank has been really good in the TV booth tonight.

He has been able to talk about the guys he managed and about strategy without sounding like a pompous former baseball insider.

Proud father of a budding Royals fan.

by Skirra on Apr 25, 2008 9:17 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

We are the kings of many such things:

Turning 3-0 counts into strikeouts, stranding the few runners we get, singing at balls, watching called strike threes. Could it be that Barnett is slowly trying to undermine Hillman?

Proud father of a budding Royals fan.

by Skirra on Apr 25, 2008 9:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

wow *swinging although they might as well carry a mike to the plate

instead of a bat at this point.

Proud father of a budding Royals fan.

by Skirra on Apr 25, 2008 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

All this negativity...

could it be that this game is just your regular pitcher’s duel, and maybe we’ll break out offensively tomorrow? Nah, there’s no way that could happen. better to wallow in our misery, because THAT will help.

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Apr 25, 2008 9:23 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I would buy that, if Burnett had not come in with an ERA over 6 . . .

and C.C. not come in with a high ERA a few days ago. These guys were not pitching like aces, it is the weakness of our bats that is making them look like it.

by Eppenweb on Apr 25, 2008 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Burnett and CC

were both due for a good outing. They’re not bad pitchers, obviously.

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Apr 25, 2008 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

But why did their "due" outing come against us?

I think there is a correllation (spelling?) here, though obviously not statistical.

by Eppenweb on Apr 25, 2008 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

A combination of the fact

that they WERE going to get things turned around AND we kind of stink right now.

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Apr 25, 2008 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Is anyone else kind of rooting

for Gload to keep up this bizarre “360 OBP, 300 SLG” thing he’s doing?

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Apr 25, 2008 9:24 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

There you go, your positive thought

combined with Gload’s grittiness for a double.

Proud father of a budding Royals fan.

by Skirra on Apr 25, 2008 9:25 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Maybe Burnett will balk the runner home.

Proud father of a budding Royals fan.

by Skirra on Apr 25, 2008 9:25 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Gload Has The

Grit for that.

I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.

by philofthenorth on Apr 25, 2008 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Suicide squeeze?

We haven’t been nearly aggressive enough on the basepaths lately.

Proud father of a budding Royals fan.

by Skirra on Apr 25, 2008 9:28 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Gload got all this started

and between Buck and DDJ’s horrible approaches… some good has happened

by royalsreview on Apr 25, 2008 9:32 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

good play by eckie

hard to argue with defense like that.

by Sean O Se on Apr 25, 2008 9:33 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I mean honestly, if Zach can get into the 7th . . .

and then hand the ball to Leo Nunez and Soria, we could win this. I am not hopeless, but also not confident.

by Eppenweb on Apr 25, 2008 9:36 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Perhaps you could get him to autograph it.

Proud father of a budding Royals fan.

by Skirra on Apr 25, 2008 9:36 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

It could be worth millions someday.

Proud father of a budding Royals fan.

by Skirra on Apr 25, 2008 9:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Especially If Gload

Explodes and kills thousands.

I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.

by philofthenorth on Apr 25, 2008 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

errrrror

Accidentally not thedude925 anymore. I do hate this new name.

by wildthang on Apr 25, 2008 9:37 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

He Looked Like

A Royals DH there.

I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.

by philofthenorth on Apr 25, 2008 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yay!

I get back from the birthday cake and we’re winning, thanks John Buck! I knew your good month must happen soon!

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Apr 25, 2008 9:43 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

JP Howell is the pitcher for the Rays

against the Sox right now. Huh.

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Apr 25, 2008 9:47 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I Wonder If

Burnett ever rides along in the limo.

I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.

by philofthenorth on Apr 25, 2008 9:47 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

'Sup nerdz

Yup! I’m sure you were all waiting for me. I live in the Greater Toronto Area, and this is my first chance to see the Hillman-Royals on TV. It’s great—Gordon hitting third, being blessed with the presence of God (in His earthly incarnation as Matt Stairs), and a world class SUPER DUPER FAT DUDE behind the plate. Has anybody commented on this? Sweet bastard. I insisted the wife come look, since I was convinced he was going to have a heart attack before the 5th. Gotta be a scout or a sportswriter.

Sorry, just jinxed it with the Overbay homer…

by devil_fingers on Apr 25, 2008 9:48 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Oops...

I meant to say that I just had to spend this special occasion with you all

by devil_fingers on Apr 25, 2008 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

For a moment, I thought you meant

Buck was really fat. Or Rod Barajas. Anyway, glad you get to see the game. I look forward to being able to see a game. :P

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Apr 25, 2008 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks

But seriously, am I the only one? Did anyone else notice this dude? I mean, I don’t mean to offend you guys writing from you mom’s basement, perhaps this is a RR regular? I just can’t get over it. It’s awesome. It’s a prejudice I can’t get over, I suppose. I assume he had to get behind home plate because it doesn’t require any (non-Matt) stairs, right?

by devil_fingers on Apr 25, 2008 9:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

As I mentioned,

I’m getting extra innings as soon as I’m home for the summer, but right now I just follow the gameday thing on mlb.com.

Sadly, it does not tell me about REALLY fat people behind the plate.

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Apr 25, 2008 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well, it should

I mean, obviously. It’s way more important than hearing about A. J. Burnett’s fingernail for the 12th time, or YAY ECKSTEIN’S AWESOME TOTALLY ADEQUATE ARM!

by devil_fingers on Apr 25, 2008 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'd love it

if the gameday program had that personality.

“Jose Guillen grounds to short. DAVID ECKSTEIN’S AWESOME TOTALLY ADEQUATE ARM throws him out. One out.”

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Apr 25, 2008 9:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That would be good

Maybe I can be the Gameday guy .

I actually was typing that during his sweet throw that just ALMOST beat out that speedster John Buck (now with the power of polygamy!)

by devil_fingers on Apr 25, 2008 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh, fuck the world.

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Apr 25, 2008 9:49 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Think positive remember.

Proud father of a budding Royals fan.

by Skirra on Apr 25, 2008 9:49 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Right!

On the positive side, it’s still tied and this is another stellar Greinke outing (4 Ks).

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Apr 25, 2008 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's the problem with our offense . . .

one mistake pitch and another team hits a homer. We get a single. It’s a hard hill for a pitcher to climb.

by Eppenweb on Apr 25, 2008 9:51 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Lyle Overbay, no less

but seriously I’m hoping Butler and Buck’s power show up ASAP.

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Apr 25, 2008 9:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Damn 7th inning

Last night with Banny and tonight again. At least grienke was able to cut it off at one.

Proud father of a budding Royals fan.

by Skirra on Apr 25, 2008 9:52 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Man, Goldberg is weird

He’s like the Craig Sager of the Royals

by raefzilla on Apr 25, 2008 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Why, God, why?

did I keep Buck in my fantasy league?

(reverse jinx in effect)

by devil_fingers on Apr 25, 2008 9:55 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

He'll destroy the ball

in two months, whiff for four. Will’s documented this, so…hope for May to be a good month? :P

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Apr 25, 2008 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Is Anyone Else Getting

The Jays’ radio feed by clicking on KCSP? It blows.

I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.

by philofthenorth on Apr 25, 2008 9:56 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

hey!

Eck error. We’ll take it.

Don't Stop Believing!

by KC Chris on Apr 25, 2008 9:57 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Very gritty effort by Overbay

to try and catch the ball with Buck thundering down on him.

(And by “effort” I mean “chickenshit flinching”)

Sarcasmâ„¢. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on Apr 25, 2008 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

HA!

They pitched out for the patented royals hit-and-run with buck/tpj.

Don't Stop Believing!

by KC Chris on Apr 25, 2008 9:58 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

The world is going to end.

TPJ got a hit. Whoa…..........

Blown Save

by BlownSave on Apr 25, 2008 9:59 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Thanks for the update! :P

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Apr 25, 2008 9:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Only the Royals

Could be facing Eckstain and STILL have the crappier starting ss

by devil_fingers on Apr 25, 2008 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

holy crap!

DJ!!!

Don't Stop Believing!

by KC Chris on Apr 25, 2008 9:59 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

HEY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

2-1!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Blown Save

by BlownSave on Apr 25, 2008 10:00 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

See,

Singles really are better than selfish HRs!

by raefzilla on Apr 25, 2008 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

there we go tony.

nice work on teh path, jetk

Don't Stop Believing!

by KC Chris on Apr 25, 2008 10:01 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

that's the play I was mocking

Ah, my wonderful timing. I was going to say something about “Pearl Harboring ourselves,” but that might push the boundaries of taste.

by devil_fingers on Apr 25, 2008 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

or leo

Don't Stop Believing!

by KC Chris on Apr 25, 2008 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

sorry

i was just being a smart ass. Let me know when whoever was goign to invent that sarcasm font gets it up and running…

Don't Stop Believing!

by KC Chris on Apr 25, 2008 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Have I mentioned that I will be sad

when we trade DDJ?

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Apr 25, 2008 10:05 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Even worse

will be them running Gathright out there every day, and reading people trying to talk themselves into him as a starter.

Any chance Teahen can defend in center adequately (since his bat looks like it fits better there than in the corner)

by devil_fingers on Apr 25, 2008 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

but he cares!

Don't Stop Believing!

by KC Chris on Apr 25, 2008 10:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I wouldn't hate the guy

because he HAS had a good career, but seriously…commentators and columnists have made him totally aborrent what with the totally superfluous praise they dish out to him.

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Apr 25, 2008 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's like Jeter

Only worse, because Jeter (while overrated, or praised for the wrong reasons), has actually been good.

by devil_fingers on Apr 25, 2008 10:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Is it me?

or has this been as unusually quick game?

More importantly, has anyone else noticed that enormous fat guy behind home plate (in the stands)?

It was pretty funny to have that guy in view while the TV guys (Jays channel) talked about Billy Butler being a big guy (they actually called him a “hoss.” WTF, is Jim Ross calling Jays games now?). If BBs a “hoss,” what is that guy inthe stands?

by devil_fingers on Apr 25, 2008 10:07 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

9 David Eckstein's equals the Royals

no power, decent defense, no runs

Blown Save

by BlownSave on Apr 25, 2008 10:07 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

i was

unfortunately, thinking the same thing. but then i realized we were mostly way too young (i.e., not gritty enough).

Don't Stop Believing!

by KC Chris on Apr 25, 2008 10:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think he did the right thing,

Nunez can’t be great EVERY time out.

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Apr 25, 2008 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

108 is a little iffy

but that he kept the pitch count down today suggests that he recognizes that back-to-back 100+s are events to be limited.

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Apr 25, 2008 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Zack was on a roll though

when you need a win, you don’t pull one of the hottest pitchers in baseball

Blown Save

by BlownSave on Apr 25, 2008 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes,

but he was at 93 pitches…a long inning for Greinke and we second guess him the other way.

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Apr 25, 2008 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah.

i think it was the correct call even though he gave up the run. It is his first of the year…

Don't Stop Believing!

by KC Chris on Apr 25, 2008 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

This is what stinks about

a scuffling offense/a pitcher’s duel. It makes me want to yell at Leo Nunez when it’s not Leo Nunez’s fault that no one is hitting.

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Apr 25, 2008 10:10 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

and that's why

people think that it’s better to keep Soria or Chamberlin in that pen… they grab onto incidents like this, ignoring the overwhelming logic and evidence pointing elsewhere

by devil_fingers on Apr 25, 2008 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nunez was due for a so-so outing . . .

I just wish it was not in a close game.

by Eppenweb on Apr 25, 2008 10:11 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

um...

what just happened on that at-bat with Wells? Gameday is less than eloquent.

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Apr 25, 2008 10:12 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

i like the Frank

was giving Guillen the business for throwing to the wrong bag (i.e., blowing the DP potential there…)

Don't Stop Believing!

by KC Chris on Apr 25, 2008 10:13 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Bring Soria in, I know it's not a save situation but you have to win this game

if they lose this we’re looking at a double digit losing streak.

by MKforKC on Apr 25, 2008 10:14 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Man, this is scary . . .

Nunez could blow the game right here. Which is horribly depressing.

by Eppenweb on Apr 25, 2008 10:14 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

god i hate sports sometimes

Accidentally not thedude925 anymore. I do hate this new name.

by wildthang on Apr 25, 2008 10:15 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

in football

sure

Accidentally not thedude925 anymore. I do hate this new name.

by wildthang on Apr 25, 2008 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, in basketball probably not so much.

I’m an SC grad my fiancee is a UCLA grad.

by MKforKC on Apr 25, 2008 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

nice

Accidentally not thedude925 anymore. I do hate this new name.

by wildthang on Apr 25, 2008 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well, it certainly covers the major sports.

we have an uneasy truce, i cheer for ucla basktball she cheers for usc football. although she sure was cheering for ucla in that 14-9 game.

by MKforKC on Apr 25, 2008 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

maybe neuheisel will actually do something here

and you guys won’t have to switch it up anymore

Accidentally not thedude925 anymore. I do hate this new name.

by wildthang on Apr 25, 2008 10:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hey, he's got Chow now.

I was pissed when they ran Chow off. He’s as good as they come on gameday.

by MKforKC on Apr 25, 2008 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

On the plus side

I like Frank White as the color guy. He knows a lot about baseball.

by hippdoghipp on Apr 25, 2008 10:15 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

hey maybe he could be a manager someday

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by wildthang on Apr 25, 2008 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Has a team ever tried moving a manager up with a particularly good group of prospects?

Not badmouthing Hillman but it could have been a good idea with Frank.

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by Skirra on Apr 25, 2008 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i had

that same thoguht when we were looking. they had success at the previous level together. why not move them all along??? maybe he gives a horrible interview???

Don't Stop Believing!

by KC Chris on Apr 25, 2008 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I went to school with his son and he was a good student so therefore by the

transitive property of know-nothingness, he’s probably a good teacher.

by MKforKC on Apr 25, 2008 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Damn. Damn. Damn.

Gobble yesterday, today Nunez. What happened to our bullpen?

by Eppenweb on Apr 25, 2008 10:17 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

well...

you really didn’t think it was as good as they were making it out to be did you? they had a nice lucky little run to start the season with that era.

by MKforKC on Apr 25, 2008 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

They have to give up runs at some point...

it’s not really “what happened” it’s “wow, it didn’t happen for a while.”

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Apr 25, 2008 10:19 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

missed the reply button

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Apr 25, 2008 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

3-0 don't swing!

Don't Stop Believing!

by KC Chris on Apr 25, 2008 10:23 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

OK.

Now hit the shit out of it!

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by KC Chris on Apr 25, 2008 10:23 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

ok.

now hit the shit out this one.

Don't Stop Believing!

by KC Chris on Apr 25, 2008 10:24 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Or Walk!

Yay!

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by KC Chris on Apr 25, 2008 10:24 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

What just happened?

teahen’s going to first, but he didn’t swing the bat? I think I’ve seen something like that before, but I can’t remember where…

by devil_fingers on Apr 25, 2008 10:24 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

just catch up?

:)

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by KC Chris on Apr 25, 2008 10:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

No, I've decided to positively reinforce the Royals.

For every walk or extra base hit, I am going to proclaim it in all-caps to show my approval.

by Eppenweb on Apr 25, 2008 10:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

wow!

nice baserunning!!!

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by KC Chris on Apr 25, 2008 10:26 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

who is getting smashed if we win?

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by wildthang on Apr 25, 2008 10:26 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

thats the spirit

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by wildthang on Apr 25, 2008 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Who is getting smashed if we lose?

And don’t you dare jinx us again!

by Eppenweb on Apr 25, 2008 10:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

whats this stuff

i dont know whats going on!

LOUD NOISES!!!!!!!!!!!

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by wildthang on Apr 25, 2008 10:27 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

i love lamp!

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by KC Chris on Apr 25, 2008 10:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

"knows how to play the game"

Is it just me or did they keep the runner from going to second—unlike our highly disciplined japanese style boys…

by kjfinkes on Apr 25, 2008 10:27 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

The "roots" of Gordon's improvement

Just a break for the pitching change—This is the first KC game I’ve caught on TV this season. I couldn’t help noticing that Buck got rid of the awesome mullet. But does Gordon seem to be growing one or what?

NHZ, is there something on BP about mulleted power hitters and their hot streaks?

by devil_fingers on Apr 25, 2008 10:28 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I lol'ed reading back through this...

I’ll have to get on it.

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Apr 28, 2008 12:47 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Obviously the jays don't know about gload

and his reverse platoon splits

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by Skirra on Apr 25, 2008 10:29 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

THANK YOU

for being so damned gritty eckstein!

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by KC Chris on Apr 25, 2008 10:30 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

wait

is gamecenter wrong on sportsline

or is Mike Sweeney actually starting in CF for Oakland?

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by wildthang on Apr 25, 2008 10:30 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

its at least listed as Mike Sweeney

and his picture came up during the at bat

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by wildthang on Apr 25, 2008 10:32 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

ESPN says it is M Sweeney in CF

Maybe they are trying to get him kiled so they can insert Thomas into the lineup

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by Skirra on Apr 25, 2008 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i'm gonna have to check that stuff out

because, i would really be interested to know what kind of range he shows!!! :)

Don't Stop Believing!

by KC Chris on Apr 25, 2008 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

FAIR BALL!

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by KC Chris on Apr 25, 2008 10:31 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

that didn’t look fair…..

OH WELL!!!!!!!!!

Blown Save

by BlownSave on Apr 25, 2008 10:32 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

you have to lean really hard

with the controller to keep it fair

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by KC Chris on Apr 25, 2008 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

AMAZING

ITS OFFENSE

WHERE DID IT COME FROM

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by wildthang on Apr 25, 2008 10:32 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

By the way

Nice clutch anti-Eckstein gloating by everyone here

by devil_fingers on Apr 25, 2008 10:32 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I love it

Pena getting IBB

by raefzilla on Apr 25, 2008 10:33 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

ive never seen something as incredible as an intentional walk to TJ

half the time i call for us to make an intentional strike out when pena bats

by billybeingbilly on Apr 25, 2008 10:33 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

The only possible reason

Buddy Bell is secretly the Jays’ bench coach

by devil_fingers on Apr 25, 2008 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah

after he and JP got into the pissing match about meche last year, they decided they liked his old-school toguhness and use him as a double agent when the Sox are on the road.

Don't Stop Believing!

by KC Chris on Apr 25, 2008 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Buddy hates the Jays

Remember, Ricciardi is an idiot

by raefzilla on Apr 25, 2008 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

and I used to think it was incredible

when Berroa got IBB when batting in front of the pitcher

by raefzilla on Apr 25, 2008 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

here comes a triple from pena

he always strieks when least expected. and are you seriously walking pena??

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by wildthang on Apr 25, 2008 10:34 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

WTF IS GOING ON????

Us…..scoring runs…I dont understand…

Formally PhantomRoyals

by FattyFMcFatass on Apr 25, 2008 10:35 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

You think that's incredible

Mark Teahen took a “walk” earlier, whatever that is

by devil_fingers on Apr 25, 2008 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

lets get Joakim up!!!

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by wildthang on Apr 25, 2008 10:36 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Save some damn runs for the next game.

Look at that they’re storming back. They won’t let a good (hill)man down.

by MKforKC on Apr 25, 2008 10:36 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Come on Dejesus

Be a real man…hit it out of the park

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by FattyFMcFatass on Apr 25, 2008 10:38 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Are you the guy

sitting in the stands right behind the plate?

by devil_fingers on Apr 25, 2008 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i've had enough to drink

that you’re starting to crack me up, like actually out loud laughing.

Don't Stop Believing!

by KC Chris on Apr 25, 2008 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Are you mocking me?

If so, i deserve it

Either way, I’m glad someone else noticed that dude. My Lord!

by devil_fingers on Apr 25, 2008 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

can we blow one game open please

i dont thnink we lose even a one run game but it would be nice to put up 7 or 8

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by wildthang on Apr 25, 2008 10:38 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Awesome Jays announcers

“How does something like that happen to David Eckstein?”

by devil_fingers on Apr 25, 2008 10:38 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

that drop by eckstein...

is a fortnight-changer.

it will give us momentum to (hopefully) close out the win tonight, and give us momentum the next two weeks.

at least i hope so…

by rockchalk on Apr 25, 2008 10:38 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

tony pena jr.

intentionally walked. my head might explode.

by blue bandwagon on Apr 25, 2008 10:38 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

This is great

too bad Downs in on my fantasy team (it’s a deep league)

by devil_fingers on Apr 25, 2008 10:39 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

HAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!

EAT IT BLUE JAYS!

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by FattyFMcFatass on Apr 25, 2008 10:40 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

seven runs...

a truly monumental night!!!

by blue bandwagon on Apr 25, 2008 10:40 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

7 runs!

a new high water mark on the year!

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by wildthang on Apr 25, 2008 10:40 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Just so you know

the Jays announcers are talking about “just more bad luck for the Jays during this losing streak.” The Royals aren’t the only ones.

by devil_fingers on Apr 25, 2008 10:40 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

WhooHoo!

Let’s go over to the Jays’ SB Nation page and tease them about Eckstein!

by Eppenweb on Apr 25, 2008 10:40 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

i turned off my computer in disgust

but my brother called and: hurray!!!!

by Sean O Se on Apr 25, 2008 10:40 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

alright no more

i want my soria save

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by wildthang on Apr 25, 2008 10:40 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

im not

somehow im not getting a burnett win or a soria save its the worst of both worlds

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by wildthang on Apr 25, 2008 10:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

if we're not carefull

Soria isn’t going to be in a save situation

Blown Save

by BlownSave on Apr 25, 2008 10:40 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

8 runs in a game

I honestly thought I would never see this kind of run production from the Royals. For reals.

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by FattyFMcFatass on Apr 25, 2008 10:43 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

all because of david eckstein...

after 8 days of getting like zero breaks, we have gotten a couple in this inning alone, namely the eckstein error.

by rockchalk on Apr 25, 2008 10:46 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs