Game 28 Open Thread - Royals (12-15) at Rangers (10-18)
by Freneau on May 1, 2008 12:30 PM EDT
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Sidney Ponson will make his second start of the season this afternoon against the Royals, looking to build on a strong performance last week against the Twins.
Wait...
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Sidney Ponson is still in baseball? Yes, yes he is. I must have lost track somewhere after his random time in St. Louis.
Sir Sidney will square off against Zack Greinke (1.25 ERA), as Zack looks to improve on a 3.27 career ERA in Arlington. With a victory on today's getaway day the Royals can begin claiming huge chunks of territory in Oklahoma. We'll start in Tulsa and Enid, and work our way south.
- One pre-game link worth checking out. Mellinger's Q&A with Teahen.
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First!
Come on boys! Lets take 2 out of 3!
Finally coming back to the 'K'!!!! I'm going to be there 7/11/08, vs the SEA Mariners, of course!
by RoyalsFanInMarinerTown on May 1, 2008 12:38 PM EDT reply actions
Sir Sidney
4.60 ERA vs. Royals in 19 starts.
5.88 ERA lifetime in Arlington
And he’s fat.
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Best part of the interview
Is the stuff about Farnsworth and the mini-interview with Farns afterwards
Preety sure last night was the last time we had a homer in the 3 hole since opening week
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No doubt
and who would have thought it would be DDJ?
by Matt Klaassen on May 1, 2008 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions
not me for one
This team desperatly needs a 3 hitter
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+1
they just need more hitters, period. And some of those they have just need to grow into it. I’m guessing that Gordon and Butler will be able to hold down the middle of the order for a long time.
by Matt Klaassen on May 1, 2008 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Wow.. Hiroki Kuroda for the dodgers has 36 pitches through 4 innings of work
Take lessons Bannister and Tomko :D only kidding Bannister but tomko. take lessons
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Also
take lessons from the Marlins’ hitters: do the opposite of what they’re doing
by Matt Klaassen on May 1, 2008 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Pisses me off..
I picked up Kuroda for my fantasy team today and he gave up a run because Juan Pierre decided to close his eyes for a whole play and completely miss play a pop up and they didnt count it as an error so the run was counted to him after a Hanley double
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That sounds like me
Fantasy is supposed to make baseball more fun, but I find myself just getting more pissed of when, e.g., my closer is used in a non-save situation, or when my team is winning a blowout, but I still get mad because the inning ends before one of my hitters gets up.
by Matt Klaassen on May 1, 2008 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions
EXACTLY!
Hints why i was so mad when Teahen swung at that 3-0 pitch with butler coming up with the bases loaded when butler is on my fantasy team :D or used to be
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And need i say
CJ Wilson is on my team too and he was brought in a non save situation last night and buck bombed him.. but i never put Fantasy baseball before the royals so i was happy but mad later
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(Insert line)
about Joe Guillen always thinking its a getaway when he’s at the plate
by Matt Klaassen on May 1, 2008 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions
I can shoudler lean
I dont know how da dance doh
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They will be at the end of may too
29-0
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I can ride my bike with no handle bars
no handle bars no handle bars
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Same as last night
J Gathright CF 0 0 0 0 0 0 .260
M Grudzielanek 2B 0 0 0 0 0 0 .319
D DeJesus LF 0 0 0 0 0 0 .333
J Guillen DH 0 0 0 0 0 0 .183
M Teahen RF 0 0 0 0 0 0 .277
B Butler 1B 0 0 0 0 0 0 .290
A Gordon 3B 0 0 0 0 0 0 .301
J Buck C 0 0 0 0 0 0 .221
T Pena Jr. SS 0 0 0 0 0 0 .156
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Can someone explain
this lineup to me? I mean, I guess I understand why Gathright’s on top. I don’t agree with it (since he doesn’t get on base), but I get the old-school obsession with “speed at the top!?
But why is Gordon, the best hitter on the Royals so far this year, hitting 7th?
again
NOt another stupid matchip thing, I hope,
by Matt Klaassen on May 1, 2008 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions
i like the lineup if teahen and gordon were to swap
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I think DeJesus should be leading off
Gordon third, then Gathright further down. Gotta get your best hitters the most ABs
by Matt Klaassen on May 1, 2008 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions
+1
I’d like it except for that. Teahen has the experience to handle the “last man in the foxhole” mentality necessary to bat in front of Buck and Pena. And if Gordon’s the one getting pitches to hit before Butler, he’s more likely to do something really good with them.
However, Teahen’s hit some of his best balls in the last two nights, so maybe at least that is working. Mostly they just have to have Buck and Pena hit a lit bit so the 7th hole isn’t like the 8th spot in the National League.
Gathright Strikes out to start the game
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2 men out grudz grounds out
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And that's why DeJesus needs to be leading off
with Gordon and others behind. If he walks with no outs instead of two, that’s three chances to drive him in, instead of 1
Whoever came up with the "Zack follows Banny" theory
get’s a medal. And a slap in the face.
Let’s hope Zack turns it around after the early homer.
anyone read
somewhere (I can’tr remember where) that Greinke is a “Spaceman Lee for the 21st century”? Perfect.
So far Ponson looks unhittable
LOL
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My lineup
LF DeJesus
2B Grudz
1B Butler
DH Guillen
3B Gordon
RF Teahen
C Buck
SS Pena
CF Gathright
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Teahen 1B
Davey LF
Butler DH
Gordon 3b
Guillen RF
Grudz 2B
Buck/Olivo C
Callaspo SS
CF Gathright
TPJ...you're dead to me
by billybeingbilly on May 1, 2008 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Not to nitpick
two lefties in a row (Gordon Teahen). Flipping Gordon with Guillen or Butler would to the trick. Especially since at the moment he’s hitting better than either of them.
by Matt Klaassen on May 1, 2008 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Does anyone get out faster than us?
I get up to go to the bathroom before the inning starts and I get back an Zack is pitching again. Wahat happened?
Hate to say this but Ponson is the kind of awful pitcher
that gives the Royals offense trouble. Let’s hope I just jinxed him – I’d love to be wrong. Instinct tells me he’ll have about 3 innings of 10 or less pitches.
Nice to hear Ryan L. on the radio broadcast today.
There is ol pena laying down a bunt again
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At least somebody can get the job done
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I hate it...
when we get rewarded for small-ball. It makes them think that sacrificing a runner to second with 1 out is always a good idea. Granted, when it’s Gath at the plate, but still.
Nice to even the score, though.
Pretty sure Joey was bunting for a base hit
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I know it led to a run
but did the Royals really sacrifice twice to get 1 run against Sidney Freaking Ponson???
TPJ and Gathright were batting, what do you expect, a HR
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Fair enough
I just think that Hillman thinks it’s good strategy. And if a guy’s best play is the bunt, then he sure shouldn’t be at the top of the order (Gathright).
by Matt Klaassen on May 1, 2008 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Dejesus is absolutely on fire, man is getting it done
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Imagine if he was hitting leadoff
with the big guys behind him driving him in, instead behind the BuntMeisters
by Matt Klaassen on May 1, 2008 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions
To be fair..
He’d still be behind the “buntmeisters”, they’d just be the bottom of the order, not part of the bottom and the top.
True
I’m sure at this point it doesn’t make that much of a different. Still, it drives me nuts to think of Gathright getting more at bat opportunities than Dejesus, Gordon, Butler, Guillen, Teahen…
by Matt Klaassen on May 1, 2008 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions
what really drives me nuts is pena getting twice as many at bats as callaspo.
TPJ...you're dead to me
by billybeingbilly on May 1, 2008 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions
and so many more bunts
I still think DM is convinced that TPJ is acceptable because he learned the “Braves way” or something brilliant like that
by Matt Klaassen on May 1, 2008 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions
pretty sure the big guys are batting after him...being on base for the 4-5-6 is ideal
TPJ...you're dead to me
OK
I’ll stop beating the dead horse. I’m more objecting to Gathright leading off and Gordon being dropped to 7th than anythign else. I like DeJesus, I’m complimenting him by saying he should be leading off
by Matt Klaassen on May 1, 2008 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions
2 more runners stranded, I thought Jose was heating up
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hmm....2 at bats...
TPJ...you're dead to me
How About This?
Teahen RF
Butler 1B
DDJ CF
Guillen LF
Gordon 3B
Gritz 2B
Gator DH
Buck C
TPJ SS
I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.
Better than this one
although I suspect “Japanese aggression” would lead to Butler laying down a lot of Bunts… (shudder)
by Matt Klaassen on May 1, 2008 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions
switch dejesus and butler and i like it kinda.. or but ddj at 1 and teabag at 2 butler at 3rd
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I worry too much about
two lefties in a raw, I guess. That’s the problem when you don’t have enough good righties. Too bad we never had a hold on a cheap right-handed outfielder, like, say, Matt Diaz…
by Matt Klaassen on May 1, 2008 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Part Of The
Point of this order was to keep DDJ in the 3 hole; he seems to like it there. I’d put Gordon in the 2 hole if it didn’t make 3 LH’s in a row. Also, I can’t see the point of putting Gator in CF and Guillen at DH; with this OF, we’re very good defensively. If Gator has to play, let him DH.
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by philofthenorth on May 1, 2008 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions
other than having the wrong shortstop i dont mind that lineup....
however, i do envision a TON of double plays after teahen gets on to lead off the game which is very disheartening to me
TPJ...you're dead to me
by billybeingbilly on May 1, 2008 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions
WOOOO!
Look at Greinke retiring 9 in a row and racking up some K’s
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Yeah he looks pretty sharp today, nice curveball
On pace for 6 innings, 8 K’s. I would take that
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he's a stud...no getting around it...and he doesnt spend all of his free time worrying about weather conditions unless if affects his golf game
TPJ...you're dead to me
Did you read the quotes from Banny Fanshot i made. go check it out they are funny
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It must be nice
to pitch with normal earth gravity, eh, Zack?
by Matt Klaassen on May 1, 2008 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Any flyball pitcher
that doesn’t check the wind in his games isn’t doing his job. There were at least two balls I thought were popups last night that landed over the fence, including the grandslam. It was like being at Coors field.
It’s fine to make fun of a guy for being cerebral, but I think all this talk is way off base.
what good did checking the wind conditions do?
TPJ...you're dead to me
by billybeingbilly on May 1, 2008 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Yikes, terrible AB by butler. How do you not swing at that last pitch?
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Gordon has a higher OPS
than everyone else hitting ahead of him except DeJesus… who I like, but has a small sample size due to injury and is riding a hot streak… why is Gordon hitting 7th
oh yeah, said I’d drop it.
thanks for letting me off the hook
even if what i said is still true
by Matt Klaassen on May 1, 2008 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions
ehh...double plays happen to everyone
TPJ...you're dead to me
by billybeingbilly on May 1, 2008 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Ponson owning us hardcore
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Well Ponson had a badass winter league ERA, a badass minor league ERA, and a badass spring training ERA
So i think he figured something out
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too many swings
They’re letting him off the hook
by Matt Klaassen on May 1, 2008 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions
if it was the first time id seen us struggle against a bad pitcher....
id think maybe it was ponson, but having witnessed the two livan starts, im certain that its our offense
TPJ...you're dead to me
Retired 12 In a Row 6 K's
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very very good...fucking kinsler
TPJ...you're dead to me
Greinke is cruisinggggggggg
I figured he would put up a bunch of K’s today… This is the lineup to do it against.
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On pace for 7 innings 10 K's
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I like the Zeros
I don’t care so much about the K’s as I do the outs and zeros on the board. Am I weird for appreciating the 1 pitch ground out more than the two strikeouts?
I’d take 7 innings and 96 pitches for Zack today. And 3 more zeros…
Let's hope the offense gets going.
Something about Greinke vs. Ponson doesn’t sound like a pitcher’s duel. Greinke is on his game and well, Ponson is to paraphrase Denny Green “He was who we thought he was and we let him off the hook.”
Buck with a high lazy flyball – imagine that
We sure aren't making Ponson work
at all
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8 pitch inning
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aggression!
I think if I were interviewing a prospective manager, and during that interview, no matter how much he talked up OBP, he said something like “it’s important to get on base, but I want my big hitters to be aggressive,” or “I don’t want them going up there looking to walk” or “productive out” that I would end the interview right there, thank them for their time, and then have security escort them out and never let them back in the facilities.
But that’s just me.
by Matt Klaassen on May 1, 2008 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Thanks
I think.
I forgot to add that anything about “clogging the basepaths” would result in the interview being buried beside Jimmy Hoffa
by Matt Klaassen on May 1, 2008 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions
we're making the fat aruban look like a cy young winner
TPJ...you're dead to me
Good pitch, Brandon freakin Boggs
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How come none of our young hitters...
look like Boggs? I know what they look like doesn’t determine how they play, but wouldn’t you like to see some guys that look like olympic sprinters or wrestlers? Someone that scares a pitcher.
Not to mention he’s killing us…
Well
Butler’s pretty big, but he looks more like a combination of Howdy Doody and the Stay-Puft Marshmellow Man… I can just hear the pitchers’ thoughts “I never thought he could hurt us…”
by Matt Klaassen on May 1, 2008 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions
what about billy?
TPJ...you're dead to me
I'd say Billy is cuddly.
Granted, his bat is scary, but not his physique.
WOW where did that pitch miss
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Not to mention
the devastating, rattling Smirk-of-Doom
by Matt Klaassen on May 1, 2008 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Two weeks? More like two minutes
Can say I’m far behind.
At least he’s not Rod Gardenhire.
Yet.
by Matt Klaassen on May 1, 2008 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions
you know what would help our offense?
Joe Mauer and Jimmy Rollins. Hillman would hit them 8th and 9th, respectively.
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Hey
at least Buck would finally get at-bats pinch-hitting for Mauer
by Matt Klaassen on May 1, 2008 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions
The Royals have these types of offensive funks
once a week or so. It is one reason why the Orioles owned the Royals last year. Same with the Twins.
he's ripped but he still looks skinny.....and buck is a guy i wouldnt wanna cross in a bar
TPJ...you're dead to me
What are the odds of running into John Buck in a bar?
about the same as running into Tom Cruise at a psychiatrist’s office
by Matt Klaassen on May 1, 2008 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Okay wierd time to bring this up but how did we not pick Lincecum?
I know the thinking with getting the more experience Hochevar but it does make me wonder if some royals brass regret not picking up lincecum instead.
by MKforKC on May 1, 2008 3:22 PM EDT reply actions
i guess that makes sense.
his k/9 rate is crazy though.
by MKforKC on May 1, 2008 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions
signability was the issue with Miller (lucky break)
TPJ...you're dead to me
by billybeingbilly on May 1, 2008 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions
I still like the Hochevar pick
I like what he’s shown so far in the big leagues. Lincecum has amazing stuff, but I’m still not convinced he doesn’t end up in the back end of the bullpen….
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little guy anti-bias
that plus weird mechanics. it seems like there’ve been enough little guys succeed (oswalt, pedro, johan) that clubs wouldn’s be scared of little pitchers, but they still are…
you make the call...
tie game. 1-1. bottom 8. greinke has 97 pitches. do you send him out for the eighth?
With most teams I would say this is the type of game that will be won with a HR
last in the game. However, with KC’s lineup, I hope I’m wrong since the Rangers are more likely to hit one than KC. How long can Ponson stay in the game? Ranger bullpen should be good for KC.
I'm thinking the exact same thing about the HR
Which is a problem, because Zack is the type of pitcher to give p a HR
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What do you know, DDH gets a hit
Needs his annual hot-streak to give us hope that he’ll be more than above average (not sneak out of Quinn award contention) before a slight slump and getting hurt again.
Teahen must hate his guts right now.
There goes another baserunner
F’ing retarded
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Don't have a problem with him stealing, but getting picked off by Sidney Ponson?
It’s not andy f’ing pettite
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the worst part was that it was predictable
Royals need to fire their first base coach and/or change their philosophy. We must be leading the league in this category.
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For those of you watching on TV,
is Greinke losing it or what? Kinsler and the HR ball sounded like they were hammered. If KC loses this game, 2-1, it will be another black mark on KC’s offense. One run off Ponson is pathetic.
shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit
TPJ...you're dead to me
There goes the ballgame.SUcks.
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Jesus this stadium is a fking bandbox
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The fences are on whels so they can move them in for the Rangers.
Proud father of a budding Royals fan.
I bet
Gathright could jump over them in a single bound, though
by Matt Klaassen on May 1, 2008 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Did anyone answer the question
about how the field plays as to doubles or triples versus the H?. If the questioner’s theory was right then the HR’s would be tempered by a lack of doubles and triples.
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anyone watching:
was that a well-hit ball or not?
On the radio
Sounds like it wasn’t, and it was barely fair.
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maybe callaspo will make an appearance today
TPJ...you're dead to me
by billybeingbilly on May 1, 2008 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions
ooooh no
in a close game like this, what you need is DEFENSE, right, Trey?
(rolling eyes thingy)
by Matt Klaassen on May 1, 2008 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions
9 punchouts in 6 innings
And we still are probably going to lose. Wow. losing 2 out of the 3 to the rangers would be demoralizing. Have to get runs.
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Still 3 more AB's left
I mean I know we haven’t hit today but it’s one run. Maybe some faith?
by I need more Esteban on May 1, 2008 3:39 PM EDT reply actions
Zack's starting to leave everything up
Is Hillman watching the pitch tracker on Gameday? I doubt it. Hopefully Bucky will let him know between innnings. I can’t see him going more than another inning. Time to get some runs.
Thought that Greinke was around 90 pitches through 6.
I would think next inning will be his last.
wow...
greinke has taken his k/bb from almost 2:1 to almost 3:1. he’s so good. man crush.
Jose Guillen is a 5 tool player
If all five of those tools are: LOB.
Seriously he’s got to be leading the majors in left on base. He’s great from that 4 spot.
by MKforKC on May 1, 2008 3:41 PM EDT reply actions
he IS leading our team in RBIs
TPJ...you're dead to me
by billybeingbilly on May 1, 2008 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions
KC must lead the AL in runners left on base
The lack of clutch hitting is remarkable. Even the game they won vs. Rangers they left 12 on base.
Well, we hav ea baserunner
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Wheels On Base
This could be entertaining.
I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.
Good performance GORDON!!
2 Double plays
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Yeah, we are going to lose
So bad
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well...if you hit into DPs every time you'll never leave anyone on base
TPJ...you're dead to me
If Callapso isn't hitting in the 8th, I wll fly to Texas
And throw Trey Hillman off a bridge
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that number fading from the horizon more and more quickly is .500
nm
by MKforKC on May 1, 2008 3:46 PM EDT reply actions
12-16 is a ways away from .500
13-15 is a bit better though…cross your fingers
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Or learn to foul off a pitch...
instead of trying to put a 3-2 changeup into play.
Royals baseball in a nutshell
Hoping that Sydney Ponson won’t make it another inning based no pitch count.
by MKforKC on May 1, 2008 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions
At least his next start will suck
if they “overuse” him in this game. Serve them right…
Score 9 runs on back to back days
Then get completely shut down by Sir Sidney
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Not many, but he's really starting to miss
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Guillen Would Be
In the hospital if he’d tried that.
I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.
gimme some ramon
TPJ...you're dead to me
Jose Guillen = Tony Pena Jr. On A "Weight Lifting Routine"
by MKforKC on May 1, 2008 3:50 PM EDT reply actions
im pretty certain that even jose could get a fucking bunt down
TPJ...you're dead to me
by billybeingbilly on May 1, 2008 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions
and i repeat....he's leading the team in RBIs
TPJ...you're dead to me
by billybeingbilly on May 1, 2008 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions
thats nice...seems like thats when he learned to hit as well
TPJ...you're dead to me
by billybeingbilly on May 1, 2008 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions
I'd like to buy a vowel
Boyfriend of the Year 2008: It's gonna be big!
by loyal2theroyals on May 1, 2008 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions
it is my eyes or are there too many blanks in the 2nd word?
TPJ...you're dead to me
by billybeingbilly on May 1, 2008 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions
the last letter is an "s"
to make up for all of the other years
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Happy Birthday
If the Royals drop this game, they hate birthdays. For shame.
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7 IP, 4H, 0 BB, 9K
Good enough to win pitching for any team other than the Royals / blue jays.
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Have to think that will be Greinke's last inning.
Pitched a great game but let down by hitters. Good for Callaspo to get in the game.
My advanced metrics
Show the Royals win every game they have outscored their opponents.
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what's our record...
when we get outscored?
by billexgordler on May 1, 2008 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions
if i ever become a general manager
you guys will be the first players i sign. why? you know how to win.
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hit the showers, kid.
great outing for zack. I’m thinking ramirez in the eighth.
Just what I was thinking. Ramirez is the right fit for this game
Greinke’s ability to pitch is really growing. Changing speeds, dialing more heat when needed. Greinke is truning the corner to be a true ace.
Ugh, BULLSHIT
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On getaway days
The Royals very often make really terrible pitchers look awesome. I remember Ryan Franklin’s CG SH a few years ago where he threw like 57 pitches in nine innings in a game that took 45 minutes.
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Um
His defense blows. I mean he falls over himself out there and throws the ball in the stands. Pena on the other hand has yet to make an error in his career and has the range of a young Ozzie Smith.
Or something like that.
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correct
remember when Callaspo fell over that tarp? and when that baseball hit his head and went for a homer?
(by the way, zero outs to shortstop this game. but 4 at bats. pena should never ever ever start when Greinke pitches)
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Especially when Greinke is pitching, the SS defense plays a lesser role
Zack throws more Ks and more fly balls. Callaspo isn’t so terrible. KC is desperate for hitting of any kind. The bottom third is a black hole for base production
If Callaspo can help the offense, preventing runs for KC doesn't look like the biggest problem
If you can’t score more than one run off the Ponsons of the world, it doesn’t really matter.
At the very worst
They should start Callaspo when they have a flyball pitcher like Zack on the mound.
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Callapso can hit.
Joey Gathright, can not.
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1 run against sidney ponson in 8 innings
Unbelievable
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While I enjoy listening to the day games, the frustration of the Royals
on get away days drives me crazy. They give away lots of ABs and make below average pitchers look great.
Ugh - can we get to 40 games already?
I want GMDM to evaluate the team and realize WE HAVE NO OFFENSE!
Our pitching, unless Hoch and Banny and Meche all really come through, is not good enough to win like this.
Against good teams, we just might be down to hoping we win Zack’s starts and that’s it.
Ugh. This month makes me think that we’re not going to hit 70 wins this year.
GMDM hasn't exactly shown himself to be an outstanding evaluator of offensive talent
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Can he evaluate his own performance as well.
Start with signing Guillen. Yes, it’s a dead horse that I’m whacking, so?
by MKforKC on May 1, 2008 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Wouldn't surprise me at all if Hillman threw Greinke out for the 8th
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Scoring just one run in Arlington
Is like not getting laid in a whorehouse.
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Losing 2 out of three to the rangers is beyond embarassing
It’s horrifically terrible
winning records follow good bullpens
Scoring just one run in Arlington
Is like falling into the ocean and not getting wet.
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Who votes for olivo to pinch hit for teahen in the 9th
Because lefty lefty matchup and teahen cant hit leftys
A lot of you wont like me... by I assure you my opinion will be voiced GO ROYALS!
At least Olivo might hit a home run
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No way
Teahen had a really great three months in 2006! He’s due!
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What would Teahen's trade value be as a 3B?
His bat as a 3B wouldn’t be so bad but as a corner OF the production just isn’t there.
its terrible for a 3b as well
TPJ...you're dead to me
by billybeingbilly on May 1, 2008 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions
you guys think...
...that gillian will let guillen prepare at “his own pace” in spring training? seems like maybe he didn’t prepare himself all that well. or maybe he just isnt that good…I
once again...he had a terrible month and still led the team in RBIs and HRs...he's not our problem
TPJ...you're dead to me
Our problem is the collection of singles hitters that makes up our lineup
Billy Butler, Alex Gordon, Mark Teahan – Where is your XBH power?!
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Yes, this is true but it is more a condemnation of KC's hitting than Guillen's ability
I do think Guillen will be a hot streak away from having strong numbers. Has he been a streaky player in the past?
Eh, RBI?
RBI isn’t so much a product of Guillen doing well, its a product of where he hits in the lineup. Of course he leads the team in RBI, he consistently hits cleanup. That puny .220 OBA and his embarrassing .346 SLG are a huge reason why we’re struggling.
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id say our 3 hole having 6 rbis the entire year is more of a pressing issue
TPJ...you're dead to me
by billybeingbilly on May 1, 2008 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions
guillen is a proven big league hitter with a long track record who had a bad month...teahen is just a bad hitter for the middle of the lineup and gordo and butler havent done much either
TPJ...you're dead to me
by billybeingbilly on May 1, 2008 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm not saying I expect Guillen to be this terrible all season
He will obviously improve, but his slow start is a big reason why we’re struggling offensively. You can’t post a .600 OPS from the cleanup spot.
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And Gordo
Has been very good this year, I don’t know how anyone could say he’s off to a slow start.
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he's been alright, not great....average if you take defense into account
TPJ...you're dead to me
by billybeingbilly on May 1, 2008 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions
in the land of the blind the one-eyed man is king
but by his own standards he’s been very bad. I just think that it’s possible he’d do better if he got more than like 20 ABs in AZ.
by billexgordler on May 1, 2008 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions
ehh...maybe he's just not a cold weather guy and we've had a ton of cold weather...tons of the latin guys hit terribly in april every year
TPJ...you're dead to me
by billybeingbilly on May 1, 2008 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions
sure...
but when you opt out of spring games and prepare at your own pace then lay a stink bomb in April, you lose the benefit of the doubt.
by billexgordler on May 1, 2008 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions
last time i checked, guillen wasnt the manager or the gm
TPJ...you're dead to me
by billybeingbilly on May 1, 2008 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions
zack didnt want to pitch in ST either, but hillman put him out there
TPJ...you're dead to me
by billybeingbilly on May 1, 2008 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions
exactly
hat’s what I’m asking. do you think they let him take it easy next spring based on how bad he’s been?
by billexgordler on May 1, 2008 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions
let's just hope he's not even on the team by next year.
like we trade him to a condender for some actual talent.
by MKforKC on May 1, 2008 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions
he's our only proven above average mlb hitter
TPJ...you're dead to me
by billybeingbilly on May 1, 2008 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions
I will not accept losing 2 of 3 to Texas
Let’s go Royals!
I Urge Everyone To Do This
Go to mlb.com gamecast of this game. Click on Field Controls and first choose Away Hits and Outs. Then click off of it and click on Home Hits and Outs.
The disparity is ridiculous. The Rangers have over 5 hits to the track. The Royals? Not one past mid-outfield. Pathetic.
by MKforKC on May 1, 2008 4:10 PM EDT reply actions
Another reason not to like Sidney Ponson: Joe Nathan’s appearance in this game convinced them Giants that he didn’t have the makeup to become a good closer, yet he would never have made that appearance if Ponson had done the job the Giants acquired him to do, which was to be a reliable #2 starter in the playoffs. But Ponson did not get the job done, departing after only 5 innings, and Nathan made an unexpected and very shaky appearance that put him irrevocably in Felipe Alou’s doghouse. Later that year, he was sent to Minnesota to become a Historically Great Closer, becoming a Royals’ nemesis.
Sigh, 2 more outs
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Woo wee, we sure didn't go down without a fight!!11
winning records follow good bullpens
The Cleveland Indians are in big, big trouble
We are due for so many runs. We are going to explode all over Jacobs Field.
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That was depressing
Ponson wasn’t even left-handed. We can struggle to hit against anyone…
I am the only one tempted
To buy a Kauffman Stadium Legacy Brick that read “YOU SUCK TONY PENA JR.!”
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'i hate both tony penas'....cant let Sr. off the hook
TPJ...you're dead to me
by billybeingbilly on May 1, 2008 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Teahen chases one at his eyeballs
And we lose 2 out of 3 to the Texas Rangers. Wowwwwwwwwwwwwwww. Hillman better be pissed, talk about pissing away whatever momentum we had. How many do we lose in a row this time?
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Man, I got killed last year for suggesting that Teahen is merely a mediocre hitter with no business being in the 3 spot.
but I think I was even being kind saying that.
by MKforKC on May 1, 2008 4:18 PM EDT reply actions
He'd be a good leadoff guy
Unfortunately we already have a guy with the exact same skillset already in the lead off spot named David DeJesus.
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he's either a 1 ro 2 or 7 or 8
TPJ...you're dead to me
Discouragement setting in after listening to that mess.
Games like today’s leave me discouraged about KC’s progress as a team. Yes, I know it is only one game but the symptoms of Royals’ crappiness seem to be lurking again. Another wasted performance by Greinke. Hitters don’t have a clue.
I don’t want to hear Hillman talk about how they battled or the lack of fundamentals – can’t bunt, picked off first. They are big leaguers against Sidney Ponson. The rest of the baseball knows what Ponson can do. How can the Royals be so terrible against someone so terrible. Did they have an inning with more than one base runner? Losing two out of three in Arlington to a team with only 9 wins is awful. Haven’t seen much to make me think the Royals will perk up offensive – singles, can’t use their speed and lack of clutch hitting will continue to be a problem. Could be a long summer of watching crappy pitchers like Ponson and Livan carve up the Royals on less than 100 pitches.
I'm just worried about the effect it will have on Greinke
This team has sucked ass lately. How long until he gets bored, and decides to start mailing it in? I mean, what’s the point of trying if you pitch your ass off, throw an amazing ballgame, and still get nailed with the L facing Sidney Ponson and the terrible Texas Rangers? It sounds ridiculous, but I’m worried it will get to him. We need him to break out this season so bad.
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he's got 3 wins...not too much for him to be discouraged by...nothing like 2005
TPJ...you're dead to me
by billybeingbilly on May 1, 2008 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, but this team is trending down.
We’re 3-10 in our last 13 games. That’s pretty damn bad.
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What really scares me is this feels exactly like last year.
We haven’t improved. That is the worst part. I have yet to see a legitimate Royals-developed hitter with power and plate discipline come up to the big league club in the 2000s. Butler and Gordon are supposed to be those guys, but they have not shown it yet. What I really worry about is that the organization cannot develop hitters. That’s a hard problem to fix, and it leads to games like this.
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