Costa Now!
No, it's not a weekly "forum" hosted by Bob Costas dedicated to having his friends come on and discuss issues with only the insight and intelligence that a guy who stands in front of a camera can deliver. No, not that at all.
It's Costa Now!
What this lineup needs is Costa. Costa now.
OK, that may be a bit of an overstatement. But I do think that it's time to give Costa an extended bit of playing time at the Major League level.
For whatever reason, a true Free Costa campaign has never really caught on on this site. He's had his supporters over the years, but no one has ever been too excited about his upside, or so it seems. Moreover, he's actually seen a fair amount of action with the Royals, albeit in weird chunks and in strange situations. Basically, this has been the only thing that I'd ever thought about him: the Royals have found a number of lineup slots and positions to play him, while never really committing to anything much. Costa for all the world has looked like a tweener: he can't play center and he can't hit enough to hold a corner slot. End of story.
I'm not sure that's necessarily true anymore. Costa is hitting .313/.357/.565 this season in Omaha, and has already hit seven home runs. Costa has always been a .300 hitter in the minors, but the knock against him has always been a lack of power. Well, he may have improved in that regard, and a modest power spike in the mid to late twenties is actually fairly standard. Furthermore, this is the Royals we're talking about, and at a certain point Costa's status vis-a-vis traditional conceptions of how to build a lineup is irrelevant. The question is, essentially, is he better use of a roster spot than Joey Gathright. Only it's not. Gathright is out of options and must clear waivers to hit the minors. It's hard to see Moore jettisoning Gathright (or running the risk of it) for a few weeks of Costa. So who has options remaining? Basically no position players other than Butler and Gordon. I believe Peralta might , but I am not positive. Ditto for Yabuta.
No, as odd as it sounds, barring any trades or dramatic changes of course, the only player that Costa can easily replace on the Big League roster is Billy Butler. Sending Butler to Omaha so that Costa can snag Joey Gathright's playing time isn't a terrifically obvious move, but I think it has some merit.
- Costa can outhit Gathright. Gathright is a career .265/.328/.312 hitting in the Major Leagues. While is lack of home run power is obvious, it's startling how few doubles Gathright produces, especially considering his speed. Last year, Gathright had 70 hits and 62 of them were singles. As a Royal, Gathright has cranked out 15 doubles, four triples and one home run in 586 trips to the plate. On a different team, Gathright's dogged efforts to get on base (he did post a .371 OBP last year) might be more valuable, but on the Royals it just means he can advance to third base on a Mark Teahen single and be stranded when Jose Guillen strikes out. The thing is, the knock on Costa has always been that he's basically a singles hitter, and he very well might be. Joey Gathright is still a bigger singles hitter, one of the most singles-based hitters in the universe, actually. Again, Costa is showing some pop this season in Omaha, and it wouldn't be unheard of for a guy to flash a little more power than previously shown when he turns 26. Costa doesn't have to slug .550 in the Majors to be an upgrade over Gathright. He doesn't have to slug .500. If Costa can slug .450 in the majors this year, maybe even just .400, he'll probably do enough to off-set what even the best case scenario for Joey Gathright is. Even if all of that isn't true, and Gathright's likely to be a better overall player, the Royals know what they have in Gathright at this point (I hope) but regarding Costa, they don't. They need to find out.
- Billy Butler needs a sabbatical. There is perhaps a deep irony in calling up Costa to chase after a 100 points of slugging but at the cost of demoting Billy Butler, as I well understand. However, at the moment the matter may be mute because Butler is slugging .362. That number is even more remarkable when you consider that Billy is actually hitting .277. As they did with Alex Gordon last season, the Royals have shown remarkable patience with Butler, which in many ways is very admirable, even courageous in the limited way that these matters can truly be courageous. Considering that Butler has no baserunning value and limits Hillman's options afield, it goes without saying that he's not pushing the offense much by hitting an empty .277. As is often said, the American League is not an instructional league, and I think that there is sufficient evidence that Butler could still use some lower-stress instruction in many aspects of the game. While I am generally not in favor of arb-clock gaming, it must also be said that it may be in the team's financial best interest to have Butler work on things in Omaha. Gordon and Butler are similar, but they are not the same: Butler is much younger and lacks much of Gordon's overall polish. Even though Gordon struggled last season, a rational case can be made that it was good for him to experience that, and hopefully learn from it, at the highest level. It isn't obvious that Butler is at that point.
-Increased Strategical Flexibility. With Costa replacing Butler, Hillman gains another chess piece for the late game pinch-hitting that he seems to be in favor of. The Royals have a number of extremely slow players (Buck, Olivo, Grudz, Gload) as well as a certain shortstop who essentially should never bat more than 3 times a game if you can avoid it. With Costa around, Hillman should feel more comfortable using German and Gathright more optimally and earlier in the game. Or, he can keep German in his back pocket, and feel safer using Callaspo earlier. Costa might also be useful in spelling Guillen and Teahen, while allowing Hillman to feel comfortable that he still has an infield reserve available in German. Butler creates problems, Costa creates solutions. (Ok, that's unbelievably cheesy, but I couldn't resist.)
The best Shane Costa has ever performed at the Major League level came at the opening of the 2006 season, when he was a nearly-regular player for the first 21 games of the campaign. Over that stretch, Costa hit .317/.333/.533, in 61 PAs. A little hacktastic, sure, but that issue is almost a sunk cost with this team at this point. Since then, despite appearing a lot, he's never really got extended playing time, which has likely driven his numbers down. Maybe, maybe not. Yes, unlike, say, Justin Huber, Costa has actually been given a solid chunk of playing time, over 400 PAs in fact, but on the whole it's been haphazard, with lots of pinch-hitting and spot starts. Plus, he's older now, and, the wonderful thing about being in your twenties is that it's a rare moment in your life when being older actually makes you better at stuff.
In both the short and long term, the Royals would be better served by replacing Billy Butler with Shane Costa on the roster. Butler will, without any doubt in my mind, have the better career in baseball. Actually, I'd be willing to be a large sum that he'll be better next year. He might even be better by August. But, with all facets of the game considered equally, he's not not better now. This season isn't about winning, it's about positioning the team to win next year (right? we don't have to wait until 2010, do we?). Billy Butler is still just 22 years old and remains one of the youngest players in baseball. His future is bright. However, he has no position and appears lost on the bases and he isn't hitting. The Royals' plan for him seems to be one of resignation: he is what he is and he isn't going to get better, so let's just guarantee that he becomes a Super Two and accept him for what he is. If that's the case, then the half-hearted efforts to get him starts at first base seem especially ill-conceived. Nothing is being accomplished by the status quo, and even less so will be forwarded once inter-league play begins.
What the Royals need now, is Costa, sweet Costa.
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Appendix:
- Royals Authority on Costa in 2007 and then in 2008, the latter link, when they "broke up" with Costa.
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I'm ready....
Let’s throw Gathright on the scrapheap, and bring up Costa. Guillen can DH for a while.
I really don't know what to say... Did the post above this signature make sense? Probably not.
by RoyalsFanInMarinerTown on
May 12, 2008 12:14 AM EDT
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I Politely Disagree With All of This
Gathright – Plays a much better field (probably the best on the team in the OF) than Costa and has great speed (Pinch Running late in games)
Butler – Really? just really? i dont agree with that at all… like NY Royal always says this team is in no way a win now team.. 2009 is the year that most of us believe we can contend.. we need to get this young guy the most experience he can get not only at hitting in the bigs but playing first base and seeing if he can handle it..
Two guys that i really would be in favor for sending down for Costa is
Esteban German – Never gets playing time at all.. no use for him.. we use him in the OF as much as the INF.. so why not just bring up an outfielder.. callaspo can handle the INF on his own
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Yasuhiko Yabuta – this team has so many starters that go 6,7,8 innings almost every start he is not very good and only gets used in mop up roles.. we dont need him.. our bullpen is really good and everyone has trouble getting regular pitching time out of the pen anyway.. i think it would be fine for him to go down and get his shit together down there
Yasuhiko Yabuta is to Major League Baseball as Drew Carey is to The Price is Right
by focs on
May 12, 2008 12:16 AM EDT
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:(
The poor guy has no place on this team anyway.. he gets no playing time at all.. what about a trade then ?
Yasuhiko Yabuta is to Major League Baseball as Drew Carey is to The Price is Right
by focs on
May 12, 2008 12:22 AM EDT
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trade could happen, probably will at some point
although it’s hard to know or predict just who will be gone
Having Costa around may, in theory, actually mean more PT for German. Then again, it may not. This team just has so many guys who are basically the same player…
by royalsreview on
May 12, 2008 12:26 AM EDT
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exactly.
We dont mix well.. this offense doesnt mix well at all..
Yasuhiko Yabuta is to Major League Baseball as Drew Carey is to The Price is Right
by focs on
May 12, 2008 12:29 AM EDT
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You mean...we don't hit?
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by NHZ on
May 14, 2008 6:44 PM EDT
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Costa,
I mean, sure. Give the guy some playing time. It’s not like anyone ahead of him is particularly distuingishing themselves. Just temper your expectations…Shane Costa would be very fortunate to slug .450 in the majors.
Then again, let’s see…who on this team is slugging .450?
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by NHZ on
May 12, 2008 12:38 AM EDT
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+1
Except I think Costa would be lucky to break a Teahen-esque .420 SLG
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by RoyalsRetro on
May 12, 2008 10:24 AM EDT
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How many shots are we going to give this stiff?
I really feel like Costa is getting the treatment Huber should have gotten. Over 3 seasons, he’s gotten a good deal of playing time. He’s gotten his shot over and over again. And yet, some in the fanbase keep asking for more. How many times does this guy have to fail? This is one of the reasons I wasn’t so unhappy that Huber didn’t get his shot. No matter how much PT he got, it wouldn’t have been enough for the fans. No matter how poorly he performed with the Royals, the fans would have just said that he’s never quite been able to catch his stride. But just call him up and he’ll find it any day now!
Shane Costa would be lucky to slug .400 in the majors.
I probably disagree with you.
by NYRoyal on
May 12, 2008 12:41 AM EDT
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Exactly
I think we’ve already seen Costa’s peak/luckiest season
2005 .333 SLG
2006 .405 SLG
2007 .301 SLG
I probably disagree with you.
by NYRoyal on
May 12, 2008 2:38 AM EDT
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Before we start giving up on people for this season...
... I think we should wait until after the draft in June. We are talking about young guys here.
If you want to get rid of Grudz to play a young guy (same with Tomko, Gload, etc.) that’s fine. We need to figure out what we have in these kids. But Gathright has NEVER played a full season in the big leagues as a semi-regular. Neither has Butler and Gordon is only in his second season. We need to give these kids some innings and some ABs before making crazy claims about Costa. The guy has one good month in AAA (for what seems like the first time ever) and we’re ready to declare him the savior of our SLG%?
Let’s chill out and give these kids a chance to grow up a little.
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by BlownSave on
May 12, 2008 1:13 AM EDT
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Ugh!
Costa? Haven’t we went down this road enough in the last few years. Thanks, but no thanks. NYroyal is being nice by calling him a stiff. If you’re going to send Butler down, make a deal for a guy like Matt Murton or something. If you look up AAAA in the dictionary, Costa’s picture pops up.
by royaldaddy on
May 12, 2008 1:22 AM EDT
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Right next to Jack Cust!
Hope is not a strategy. And neither is playing Tony Pena every day. (Rany Jazayerli)
by devil_fingers on
May 12, 2008 10:24 AM EDT
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Sending Butler down would be a mistake
He is the youngest regular on the team, but he might have the most mature approach at the plate. He swings at a relatively low percentage of balls outside the strike zone, and makes contact at a high rate of balls inside the zone. Although patience (like power) tends to develop later than other skills, he already walks at a league average rate. He strikes out at a below league average rate. Sure, he had a rough couple of weeks, but it is not like he started hitting like Tony Pena Jr. Sending him down to face AAA breaking balls is not going to help his development. The power will come.
Costa might be a fine fourth outfielder, and probably makes more sense than the 12th pitcher and maybe Gathright, but his next shot should not come at the expense of Butler.
by Gopherballs on
May 12, 2008 1:25 AM EDT
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Seriously guys, look at Gathright's #s again
http://www.baseball-reference.com/g/gathrjo01.shtml
He has 28 career doubles. 28! in 1,027 PAs
For a guy with his speed, thats incredible.
by royalsreview on
May 12, 2008 2:04 AM EDT
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costas OPS is not significantly better and joey does have some skills that are valuable as a pinch runner and defensive substitution
i dont see how costa would improve this team. he’s not a better hitter than anyone who is a regular except for the shortstop
TPJ...you're dead to me
by billybeingbilly on
May 12, 2008 2:21 AM EDT
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Yeah, Gathright's no prize, but at least he has a couple of plus skills
Costa really doesn’t. He’s yet another guy who is a bit old for his level, repeating the level for the third time and, unsurprisingly hitting well in a hitter’s league. This kind of thing happens all the time, and fans usually overreact to it. It’s Craig Brazell all over again.
How long until the “Aviles Now!” story?
I probably disagree with you.
by NYRoyal on
May 12, 2008 2:41 AM EDT
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Brazell, I'm willing
to bet you, could slug .400. How many people on this team are slugging .400? :P
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by NHZ on
May 12, 2008 3:35 AM EDT
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Yup!
And that’s totally his REAL ability, that last half of 2006, not all the other major league experience and hundres of minor league at-bats!!! 111 One !! 1
Hope is not a strategy. And neither is playing Tony Pena every day. (Rany Jazayerli)
by devil_fingers on
May 12, 2008 10:25 AM EDT
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except brazell was never given a chance to prove he sucked at the highest level
TPJ...you're dead to me
by billybeingbilly on
May 12, 2008 2:59 AM EDT
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here's an idea
Dump Gload, and if we’re not comfortable with Butler’s defense at 1B, we can shift Teahen there. Otherwise, Costa becomes our new DH/4th Outfielder.
So, we can have:
CF DeJesus
RF Teahen
LF Guillen
1B Butler
DH Costa
3B Gordon
2B Grudz
SS Callaspo (god willing)
Odds are nobody will pick up Gload if we DFA him. If someone does, then I believe they are now on the hook for his salary, and we save a million bucks. Win-win.
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by marbotty on
May 12, 2008 7:24 AM EDT
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I like the idea...
I also think we might try to showcase Gload more and hope to find a trade partner for him…
hey, it could happen
by royalsreview on
May 12, 2008 8:54 AM EDT
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They've got Bavasi on speed dial, right?
Hope is not a strategy. And neither is playing Tony Pena every day. (Rany Jazayerli)
by devil_fingers on
May 12, 2008 10:26 AM EDT
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Costa might be confusing a seperate issue, which is whether or not Butler should be sent down
I don’t think it’s a bad idea.
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by LeoBloom on
May 12, 2008 8:06 AM EDT
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yeah, i'm not sure what we want to do re: Butler
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by marbotty on
May 12, 2008 11:10 AM EDT
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few points
1. The first issue, and seemingly the one most of you disagree with me on, is the matter of Gathright versus Costa. Gathright’s career OPS in the Majors is .639. His career OPS in the minors is .713. Costa’s numbers, respectively, are .659 and .852. Perhaps who is the better hitter, or player, overall is debatable. But I don’t see it as an obvious slam dunk for Gathright. Yes, Gathright has skills (or tools, really, as it were) that Costa doesn’t possess. But that is also true in reverse. Costa has at least some pop, and may be in potential to have his Lew Ford moment. But even if he isn’t, outhitting Gator isn’t exactly a tall order.
2. As I tried to suggest in the third point, adding Costa to the rosta (yes) may allow Hillman to more properly use Gathright as a super-sub and pinch-runner type. Heck, make him desginated bunter. The somewhat confusing thing about what I’m saying I guess is that while Gathright is part of the issue, he’s out of options, and I’m envisioning him playing alongside Costa. Costa gives Hillman the freedom to use German and Gathright more and in better situations. Just making Joey the #9 or #2 or #1 hitter and giving him four plate appearances is not optimal.
3. Maybe I just have no credibility on these matters (who thought coming up next would be Aviles Now!?) but I’m not saying Costa is going to be an All-Star, or even that he’ll be a good player. I think he can outhit Joey Gathright. Actually, I think he can out slug Joey Gathright, which is really the main issue. He’s somewhere between a stopgap, 4th OF and a bench player. And that is OK. It is the job of the player development system to produce those kinds of guys too.
4, Finally, there is the issue of Butler. Frankly, I feel like this is the messier point than Costa/Gathright. As an informed outsider, I really don’t know what type of instruction Billy is getting in KC or if it is better or worse or whatever than in Omaha. I also don’t know how he might respond - positively or negatively - to a demotion. And I can see that these are all important issues. Further, maybe he’ll start racking tomorrow, and will fully justify being an immobile, positionless roster spot. At the moment however, he isn’t hitting enough to justify what he is and the kinds of problems he creates tactically. Typically, it is unclear as to what the Royals are even trying to do: he plays first sometimes, sometimes he doesn’t. I contend there is a good baseball argument for demoting him, maybe even to AA if he’s more comfortable with the staff there (I don’t know) and letting him work on his swing and defense more intensely for awhile. Moreover, there are financial implications to the current plan, so we have to ask if that is worth it.
Good stuff guys. Enjoying the discussion.
by royalsreview on
May 12, 2008 8:53 AM EDT
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re: #1
Leaving aside the main point of this thread (Costa), is there anyone else out there who still needs convincing that Gathright will never be more than a 4th outfielder on a crappy team? Even if you think his defense is acceptable at CF…
He can’t hit. He just can’t. His good streak last year was every bit as lucky as Costa’s one chance. Only the presence of Tony Pena, Jr. convinces people otherwise. If TPJ were replaced by someone who just kind of sucked, instead of completely sucking, everyone would realize the suckitude of Gator. And it pains me to say this, too. He’s sort of a fast, OF version of Ken Harvey—the entertainment value (jumping over cars is to Gathright as ugly-ass swing is to Harvey) can’t overcome the overall crappiness.
Hope is not a strategy. And neither is playing Tony Pena every day. (Rany Jazayerli)
by devil_fingers on
May 12, 2008 10:31 AM EDT
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But he can jump over a car!
And he runs really fast, which reminds me of the Royals of the 80s!
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by RoyalsRetro on
May 12, 2008 10:33 AM EDT
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you cant decide on butler just yet.
and one good day at the plate liek yesterday allready boasted his average up to 286. so if he goes 4-4 with 2 hrs tom his batting 310 and all looks good just like if goes 0-4 he goes down to 270. can we atleast wait for a quarter of the season to be over before we really have this debate,
by Billybutlerformvp on
May 12, 2008 11:01 AM EDT
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Billy on WHB
Said that he and Kuntz (or maybe Owen, but I’m pretty sure he said Kuntz) do fielding work EVERY game day—Billy is one of the first guys to get to the clubhouse, pretty sure that’s the reason. So he’s getting the coaching.
Sometimes you just gotta roll the potato.
by CentralChamps2009 on
May 14, 2008 5:13 AM EDT
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I'm...
lukewarm on Costa but I think this would send a message. Costa is performing in AAA so he will be promoted. Butler is currently playing poorly in all phases of the game except hitting singles and base clogging so he will be held accountable. If an example needs to be made it might as well be someone with options.
by djk royal on
May 12, 2008 10:11 AM EDT
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Not convinced
I’m really down on Costa, and I’m convinced he’s had quite a few chances, and has shown he’s a AAAA player. However, with the state our offense is in, and the way he is hitting, I would be all for letting him get a shot.
Sending down Butler however would be a bad move. Really, I see two hitters on the roster who should not be on the roster:
Esteban German
Ross Gload
Neither are particularly young, neither are particularly good. They both have some utility as bench players, but that utility is rather limited. I would love to trade either or both of them if there was a taker, but if there isn’t, I think the Royals should bite the bullet and outright release them. I know they have played reasonably well in the past, but they are clogging the roster while providing only marginal value. Other teams are making the wise decision to release formerly good players, the Royals should have the courage to do the same. Axe both and call up Shealy and Costa to see what you have in those younger players.
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by RoyalsRetro on
May 12, 2008 10:27 AM EDT
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German can sorta play the infield though
there aren’t many SS/2b backup types availible if he’s gone
by royalsreview on
May 12, 2008 1:01 PM EDT
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How quickly you foresake
Jason Smith.
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by RoyalsRetro on
May 12, 2008 1:29 PM EDT
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if i recall costa had great #s at omaha
last season and stunk it up when he came up to big leagues. the guy is a AAAA hitter not an mlb hitter.
by Billybutlerformvp on
May 12, 2008 10:51 AM EDT
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he's surpassed .900 OPS the last three stints in Omaha
It could be a fluke, and he could be a AAAA player. Or, it could be that he’s turned a corner in the power department and just hasn’t had a large enough audition in the pros.
Regardless, I’d rather bring him up to replace Gload, who we know for a fact is not going to hit well—he’s had 908 at bats, and compiled a .291/.333/.424 line, and is doing even worse this year with an OPS is that just a sliver above .600. That’s horrible for a 1B/DH. Actually, that’s horrible anywhere on the field.
I fail to see the downside to making this move. If we’re concerned about defense at 1B, we can slip German there or perhaps Costa. Lord knows that the KC Brass isn’t loathe to move Teahen around to different positions, so perhaps he’d work out there.
The upside is we get to fin out if Costa is for real. I’ve had real doubts about him ever since he was drafted, but it seems like his performance the last few years warrants at least a look. Who knows… we may have another Matt Diaz on our hands. We won’t know unless we try, and there’s really no reason not to give him a shot, other than a fear of replacing one of the worst bats in the majors.
Here’s an analogy I’ve thrown around a bit on the intertubes, but it applies here, and I’m hoping it’s new for some of you:
Imagine you’re on Let’s Make A Deal, and you just won a can of spam (i.e. Gload). Monte Hall offers you the opportunity to walk away with that spam, or to take what’s behind Curtain #2. Now, there’s a good chance there’s a goat hiding behind there, or a half eaten bowl of Hormel Chili. But what if it’s a BRAND NEW CAR?
Point being, we know what we’ve got in Gload, and it isn’t pretty. Sure, we might get zonked by going with Curtain #2, but it’s worth the risk. Considering we may be released from Gload’s multimillion dollar contract in the process, it’s a huge gain for us, even if it doesn’t work out.
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by marbotty on
May 12, 2008 11:08 AM EDT
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Great post
I agree wholeheartedly. I’m not wild on Costa, but it beats knowing what we have in Gload.
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by RoyalsRetro on
May 12, 2008 11:21 AM EDT
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I also agree
I just can’t see GMDM jettisoning Gload. As someone mentioned above, we need to get Bavasi on speed dial.
by royalsreview on
May 12, 2008 1:02 PM EDT
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Agreed
I can’t see him releasing Rossy right after giving the guy a two year contract.
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by RoyalsRetro on
May 12, 2008 1:30 PM EDT
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On top of that
...man, I think we’ve all said this at one time or another, but Gload’s one of those guys even a great team wouldn’t mind having on the bench.
I just tend to suspect that German and Callaspo are both on the roster for a reason, or even two: Moore expects Pena to fail, and/or Moore expects Grudz to be elsewhere by August. If there’s an intent for German’s job to be uber-super-sub, that lessens the need for Gload, IMO.
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by jonfmorse on
May 12, 2008 2:25 PM EDT
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if you do it for gload its worthit.
but not gathright or butler.at least right now.
by Billybutlerformvp on
May 12, 2008 11:16 AM EDT
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Costa no why not Aviles
Gathright provides a very good pinch runner and his defense Sunday is what we need in Centerfield. Why not give Aviles a shot at SS. The kid has proven he can hit AAA ball why not give him a run in the bigs. Pena needs to be benched. This team has to manufacture every run they get and Pena’s lack of bunting and hitting ability is a liability this team can’t have. As for Butler that would be the most ridiculous move ever. This guy is 22 and has proven he can hit major league pitching something Costa hasn’t done. Butlers glove hasn’t been the liability many thought it might be.
by kcscoliny on
May 12, 2008 2:24 PM EDT
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Because Aviles is a butcher.
A couple of weeks ago, I was arguing toward possible improvement, as Aviles had still not yet made an error despite playing every day at 2B or SS.
He’s got four now.
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by jonfmorse on
May 12, 2008 2:27 PM EDT
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Add his limited range to the equation and you've got a second baseman...maybe.
I probably disagree with you.
by NYRoyal on
May 12, 2008 2:50 PM EDT
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New Starting infield for the royals...
1b. Esteban German
2b. Mike Aviles
ss. Alberto Callapso
3b. Alex Gordon
Grudz traded for a PTBNL and salary dump. Gload and TPJ are defensive replacements spot starters. Instant speed and offense upgrade. I LIKE IT!
by djk royal on
May 12, 2008 3:00 PM EDT
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I would actually like to see that for about a week.
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May 12, 2008 3:01 PM EDT
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And then after a week of unimpressive hitting and poor defense we'd be begging and/or screaming for a major change
I probably disagree with you.
by NYRoyal on
May 12, 2008 3:09 PM EDT
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Perhaps.
Like I said, “a week”, just to see what happens.
Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.
by jonfmorse on
May 12, 2008 3:18 PM EDT
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that infield defense seems like a potential disaster...
and I can see zack just up and retiring after his IF makes 6 errors in one of his starts…we dont want that
TPJ...you're dead to me
by billybeingbilly on
May 12, 2008 3:04 PM EDT
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Certainly possible...
I bet German could handle first though. A bad second baseman would probably be a better than average first basemen.
by djk royal on
May 12, 2008 3:08 PM EDT
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German at first
In the very least, there would be a significant adjustment period. He’s never played that position before. Even if he has the skills/tools to play the position well, it does take practice to learn when to lay off a ground ball to your right, when and how to make the throw to second base, when and how to make plays on bunts, and how to pick low/bad throws.
I probably disagree with you.
by NYRoyal on
May 12, 2008 3:12 PM EDT
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I know...
It would be nice if we started playing someone there with a future though. Train Butler or German. Just stop playing Ross Gload. That’s all I ask.
by djk royal on
May 12, 2008 3:14 PM EDT
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For the record, German doesn't have much more of a future than Ross Gload.
I think he’s one year younger.
I probably disagree with you.
by NYRoyal on
May 12, 2008 3:21 PM EDT
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I dunno.
Offerman took to it like a duck in water…
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by jonfmorse on
May 12, 2008 3:17 PM EDT
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Yes, he was an excellent defensive 1B
I don’t recall if he had a difficult transition. I do remember him being a very good defensive 1B. I wouldn’t be surprised if he had a few bad weeks at the start though. Regardless, I don’t know that we can expect Offerman II.
I probably disagree with you.

