Game 39 Open Thread - Tigers (16-23) at Royals (17-21)
Detroit Tigers @ Kansas City Royals
Your pitching matchup:
Remember when Jim Leyland's Old School wisdom and take-no-gruff attitude was so inspirational and perfect?
Oh, and Verlander's ugly ERA? Guess what starting pitcher has had the most tack-on runs charged to him thanks to poor bullpen support? Yea, that'd be Justin Verlander.
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First!
I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.
by philofthenorth on
May 14, 2008 7:33 PM EDT
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Gah!!!!
I wish I had been first. /kicks-a-rock
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by RoyalsFanInMarinerTown on
May 14, 2008 7:48 PM EDT
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I have a feeling!
This is going to be an EPIC game! Everyone should recommend this thread to get it on the front page of SportsNation!
Support my nomination for the front page!
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by RoyalsFanInMarinerTown on
May 14, 2008 7:50 PM EDT
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Another shameless plug:
While waiting for the game, check out the “Greinke and the Brain Theme Song” fanpost and let me know what you think. I might make it into a Youtube video if people like it enough.
by Eppenweb on
May 14, 2008 7:51 PM EDT
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Pena
is he in the lineup?
sign Greinke a Evan Longoria type deal now.
by kcscoliny on
May 14, 2008 8:00 PM EDT
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This is one of the days Pena should be in the lineup
Hochevar so far has been an extreme groundball pitcher—52% GB%.
by Gopherballs on
May 14, 2008 8:07 PM EDT
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Oh, please do make a video!
That would rock.
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by RoyalsFanInMarinerTown on
May 14, 2008 8:02 PM EDT
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Today's Lineup
Granderson, CF .229
Polanco, 2B .274
Guillen, 3B .294
Ordonez, RF .306
Cabrera, 1B .262
Joyce, LF .333
Thames, DH .260
Renteria, SS .266
Rodriguez, C .278
DDJ, LF .311
Grud, 2B .328
Gordo, 3B .274
Guillen, DH .216
Billy, 1B .279
T-Bag .270
Bucky, C .268
TPJ, SS (ugh) .165
Gator, CF .250
I count pitches.
by royallyblue on
May 14, 2008 8:04 PM EDT
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Nice
No Gload. Now, if only Callaspo was starting at short.
by royaldaddy on
May 14, 2008 8:06 PM EDT
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Good thing we got
Gator and his sub-.600 OPS in. The next Spreadsheet baseball article is not going to be for the faint of heart.
A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.
by NHZ on
May 14, 2008 8:22 PM EDT
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huber is starting tonight for the padres
I predict 4-4 with 3 grand slams and an inside the park homer
by royalsreview on
May 14, 2008 8:04 PM EDT
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*Inside the park grand slam
He’ll top it off by making a catch and climbing the outfield wall to steal a kiss from the nearly nude Victoria’s Secret model sitting in the cheap seats.
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by slayor on
May 14, 2008 8:08 PM EDT
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Nice work by Hoch there.
He’s fitting right in with this rotation.
by royaldaddy on
May 14, 2008 8:15 PM EDT
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No one will ever accuse Luke of working up in the zone
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by slayor on
May 14, 2008 8:16 PM EDT
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He'll rebound
he’s way too good of a pitcher not to end the the year with an ERA around 4.
A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.
by NHZ on
May 14, 2008 8:21 PM EDT
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If there is a team that can heal him, it's us
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by slayor on
May 14, 2008 8:21 PM EDT
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over/under?
Gordon seeing 11 pitches tonight.
I count pitches.
by royallyblue on
May 14, 2008 8:21 PM EDT
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I'll take over
I’m still quite optimistic-reasonably, I think-about A-Gord this year. Plus, Verlander can have bouts of wildness where I’m pretty sure I could work a walk off him.
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by NHZ on
May 14, 2008 8:23 PM EDT
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Unforunately Verlander seems to be throwing moderately hard today...
I think I’ve watched every game he’s started this season, and in a lot of them he’s been working 91-93mph. Today it’s 93-95. It also seems like he’s thrown a ridiculous number of offspeed pitches this year, and he’s been getting burned on a lot of them. Really seems to fall in love with his curveball.
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by slayor on
May 14, 2008 8:25 PM EDT
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In case it has not been noted elsewhere
Fangraphs.com has two articles on its front page related to two subjects of interest: (1) Dayton Moore’s white whale, Wladimir Balentien (comparing him to Wily Mo Pena) and (2) Justin Verlander’s struggles this year (scroll down). Verlander has been unlucky, but his fastball is down 1.5 MPH and his K/9 and BB/9 rates are going the wrong direction.
by Gopherballs on
May 14, 2008 8:25 PM EDT
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18 pitch 1st inning
wish we could do that more often.
sign Greinke a Evan Longoria type deal now.
by kcscoliny on
May 14, 2008 8:27 PM EDT
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And that was with Guillen hacking away at the first pitch
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by slayor on
May 14, 2008 8:28 PM EDT
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Where is Hoch's count?
I’d guess good to fair?
I count pitches.
by royallyblue on
May 14, 2008 8:33 PM EDT
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21 pitches in 2 innings.
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by slayor on
May 14, 2008 8:34 PM EDT
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I have to say, I've been really impressed with Luke's slider.
Reading the scouting reports on him coming up, I was under the impression that his best pitches are fastball curveball. To date though, in the majors the curveball really hasn’t been there but the slider has been money – it’s a legitimate swing and miss pitch for him. Hopefully it can remain that way – a lot of guys pitch a long time in the big leagues without developing a swing and miss breaking ball.
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by slayor on
May 14, 2008 8:33 PM EDT
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Go Butts!
Swing that stick!
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by RoyalsFanInMarinerTown on
May 14, 2008 8:35 PM EDT
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Time for a patented Royals mini rally...
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by slayor on
May 14, 2008 8:37 PM EDT
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Butler
1st to 3rd. Looked like he was pulling a plow, but nevertheless…
I count pitches.
by royallyblue on
May 14, 2008 8:37 PM EDT
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GODDAMNIT
Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.
by jonfmorse on
May 14, 2008 8:39 PM EDT
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Sigh.
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by slayor on
May 14, 2008 8:39 PM EDT
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Walking TPJ... just wow
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by slayor on
May 14, 2008 8:41 PM EDT
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Now TPJ can hit into a 3-0 DP
oh, wait, he WALKED?
“Help, I’m slippin’ into the twilight zo-one…”
Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.
by jonfmorse on
May 14, 2008 8:41 PM EDT
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hey, me and my co-workers could not come up
with who sang that song. Help me out, who was it?
by royaldaddy on
May 14, 2008 8:43 PM EDT
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Golden Earring.
“So you will come to knowww… when the bullet hits the bone, whaa-aa-oh, when the bullet hits the bone…”
Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.
by jonfmorse on
May 14, 2008 8:44 PM EDT
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Golden Earring
I had to try to decipher the lyrics one time; they’re Dutch, so the phraseology and terminology is nearly impossible to figure out at times.
I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.
by philofthenorth on
May 14, 2008 8:45 PM EDT
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according to
Denny Mathews Butler made the correct play. Force the 3rd baseman to make the decision.
sign Greinke a Evan Longoria type deal now.
by kcscoliny on
May 14, 2008 8:41 PM EDT
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Yeah, it just seems like it's been happening a lot
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by slayor on
May 14, 2008 8:43 PM EDT
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We have to get a run here...
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by slayor on
May 14, 2008 8:42 PM EDT
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God joey just put the ball in play
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by slayor on
May 14, 2008 8:43 PM EDT
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You know what you'd be saying
if he’d “just put the ball in play” on the ground to second base. ;)
Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.
by jonfmorse on
May 14, 2008 8:45 PM EDT
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As long as he beat out the double play, I don't care
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by slayor on
May 14, 2008 8:46 PM EDT
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There we go.
Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.
by jonfmorse on
May 14, 2008 8:44 PM EDT
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Verlander's velocity may be back tonight
but his command is horrible.
by Gopherballs on
May 14, 2008 8:44 PM EDT
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Wow.... that is definitely how Joey would get a RBI hit
But props to him for putting the ball in play. Execute, good things happen.
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by slayor on
May 14, 2008 8:44 PM EDT
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That is how he had his high OBP/BA success last year
That is why I was a big supporter of him.
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by RoyalsFanInMarinerTown on
May 14, 2008 8:45 PM EDT
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I approve of that attempt, actually.
So I’m okay.
Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.
by jonfmorse on
May 14, 2008 8:46 PM EDT
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Oh my god what the fuck was that
UGHHHH
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by slayor on
May 14, 2008 8:46 PM EDT
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How, how how do we give a free out to a struggling pitcher
My brain is exploding
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by slayor on
May 14, 2008 8:46 PM EDT
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It was a good spot for the attempt
And it would have put them both in scoring position for DDJ. It was an attempt to allow our hottest hitter to drive a stake through the Tigers in the second inning.
Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.
by jonfmorse on
May 14, 2008 8:48 PM EDT
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It was a terrible spot
Pena isn’t good at stealing bases, lefty at the plate, Verlander is quick to deliver and Pudge behind the dish. Grudz has killed the Tigers all year, a double steal is not playing for the big inning. Not to mention Verlander was fighting the strike zone. Total waste of an out.
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by slayor on
May 14, 2008 8:49 PM EDT
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double steal with a
lefthander up at the plate
sign Greinke a Evan Longoria type deal now.
by kcscoliny on
May 14, 2008 8:47 PM EDT
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I have a feeling i'm going to be going Denny Green after this game...
WE KNEW EXACTLY WHO THEY WERE…AND WE LET ‘EM OFF THE HOOK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I have many leather bound books...
by juano on
May 14, 2008 8:49 PM EDT
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THEY ARE WHO WE THOUGHT THEY WERE!!!!
I count pitches.
by royallyblue on
May 14, 2008 8:50 PM EDT
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Billy's looking more agile over there
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by jonfmorse on
May 14, 2008 8:52 PM EDT
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Man, if Billy can be the regular 1B and Gload the Defensive replacement . . .
That would open a huge hole for another impact bat once Guillen got healthy, and into next year. Dunn, anyone?
by Eppenweb on
May 14, 2008 8:53 PM EDT
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Dunn is hitting .203 right now and
he’s a strikeout monster. How much are you willing to pay?
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May 14, 2008 8:54 PM EDT
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Dunn has been the free agent big bat of choice around here . . .
but I realize he might not be worth it. Who would you prefer?
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May 14, 2008 8:58 PM EDT
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I'm glad he's having a down year
Hopefully that will decrease the interest in him and his price. I wouldn’t overreact to one bad year….ever.
I probably disagree with you.
by NYRoyal on
May 14, 2008 9:00 PM EDT
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Pat "The Bat" Burrell would work
but I’d rather go the trade route rather than trying to win a bidding war.
by royaldaddy on
May 14, 2008 9:00 PM EDT
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The problem is, this team can't afford to subtract much
We need to add.
I probably disagree with you.
by NYRoyal on
May 14, 2008 9:01 PM EDT
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minor league arms and one of Teahen/Dejesus
will have to be our currency.
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May 14, 2008 9:03 PM EDT
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The problem is that we need a big bat...and I don't think those pieces of currency add up to a big bat.
I probably disagree with you.
by NYRoyal on
May 14, 2008 9:03 PM EDT
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Will Guillen be ready
for Interleague play? Or is he limited to DHing?
I count pitches.
by royallyblue on
May 14, 2008 8:54 PM EDT
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I've got to think he's close to being ready to play in the field again
I probably disagree with you.
by NYRoyal on
May 14, 2008 8:59 PM EDT
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I hope
but watching him labor around the bases yesterday makes me wonder.
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by royallyblue on
May 14, 2008 8:59 PM EDT
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He sure didn't look ready to play in the field
Man, our pitching better show up for those interleague games or we are t-o-a-s-t.
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by slayor on
May 14, 2008 9:01 PM EDT
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I don't mind playing a LFer with limited range
He can get around. It would limit his range, but I can live with that.
I probably disagree with you.
by NYRoyal on
May 14, 2008 9:02 PM EDT
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Ahhhhh I thought he was going to make that play
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Well, he did
to the extent that he kept the lead runner from going to third.
Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.
by jonfmorse on
May 14, 2008 8:55 PM EDT
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Hoch needs to nip this in the bud... can't give any back against a tough pitcher
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May 14, 2008 8:54 PM EDT
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Clutch pitching by young Skywalker
Get ahead in the count, then get the out
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by slayor on
May 14, 2008 8:58 PM EDT
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Good job Luke.
Maybe he’ll actually earn that “Cool Hand” nickname Rany wants to give him.
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May 14, 2008 8:59 PM EDT
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Heh, he just needs to have the hot hand for now
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by slayor on
May 14, 2008 9:00 PM EDT
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lets look
at some pitches Verl at 41 entering inning.
sign Greinke a Evan Longoria type deal now.
by kcscoliny on
May 14, 2008 9:02 PM EDT
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working the count...
I count pitches.
by royallyblue on
May 14, 2008 9:03 PM EDT
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Yeah, very nice PA working the walk from 0-2
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by slayor on
May 14, 2008 9:04 PM EDT
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10 points for Alex
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that was not such a sexy AB
Blown Save
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May 14, 2008 9:05 PM EDT
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Gotta love him take the meatballs then swing at the pitch in the dirt
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May 14, 2008 9:06 PM EDT
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It Was A
Productive K.
I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.
by philofthenorth on
May 14, 2008 9:07 PM EDT
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Guillen sure does pack his lip
I mean, I chew, but Damn!
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May 14, 2008 9:05 PM EDT
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Gordon Will Steal
I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.
by philofthenorth on
May 14, 2008 9:07 PM EDT
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Wouldn't surprise me at all if he's going 1-1
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by slayor on
May 14, 2008 9:07 PM EDT
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18 pitches?
Plus a throw to first.
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May 14, 2008 9:08 PM EDT
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D'oh, Billy got himself out on that pitch
But it’s ok, because Verlander is labouring and Hoch is cruising.
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by slayor on
May 14, 2008 9:08 PM EDT
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I don't think he was expecting another change up
by Gopherballs on
May 14, 2008 9:09 PM EDT
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Verlander has been throwing that thing like it's going out of style this year
His refusal to challenge with the fastball is puzzling
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by slayor on
May 14, 2008 9:10 PM EDT
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NBA Playoffs Update
CLE46, BOS 43 – Halftime
Blown Save
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May 14, 2008 9:09 PM EDT
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Guillen's nickname should be "Mr. Hacktastic" . . .
leader of the Hacktastic Four: Guillen, Olivo (The Bulk), TPJ (The Invisible Bat), Gload (The Human EXGLOSION!)
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And Pena might be “The Ineffectual Twirl”...
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May 14, 2008 9:12 PM EDT
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He can be the new AO
only instead of Amos Otis, it’s automatic out
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by slayor on
May 14, 2008 9:13 PM EDT
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Sucks for Hoch....an infield hit and two dunkers.
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May 14, 2008 9:15 PM EDT
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I remember Jason Grimsley getting tossed from a game
at the K once and just going nuts! He threw stuff out on the field. Used a bat against a water cooler. The works. Then, it seemed crazy. Now, I know it was just “roid rage”.
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I met Jason Grimsley opening day 05 I think?
It was after his last season for the Royals, I think he was signed to the Dbacks or whatever and was injured but he was at opening day in the stands. I went up and talked to him, he was pretty cool. Before that I had always thought he was a huge douchebag.
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by slayor on
May 14, 2008 9:18 PM EDT
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Pretty solid 4 innings.
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May 14, 2008 9:20 PM EDT
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Don't look now, but the Indians are about to run away with the division.
Yikes. Their starting pitching over the past 10 days has been insane. Sabathia just churned out a CG SHO tonight. They are rolling.
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by slayor on
May 14, 2008 9:23 PM EDT
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Hooch's Pitch Count
59 through 4.
I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.
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May 14, 2008 9:23 PM EDT
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Unreal. Another pick off. How does this keep happening?
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by slayor on
May 14, 2008 9:25 PM EDT
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That was just dumb bad luck.
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what the
hell is Teahan doin
sign Greinke a Evan Longoria type deal now.
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Leadoff Walks Are
Wildly overrated.
I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.
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This team has to lead baseball in runners picked off.
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by slayor on
May 14, 2008 9:26 PM EDT
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Verlander over 70 pitches yet?
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75 I think
He should be good for 7 at this pace
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by slayor on
May 14, 2008 9:29 PM EDT
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Nevermind, I thought we were through 5. LOL
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don't know
if gettin to the pen is a good thing with this Royals team.
sign Greinke a Evan Longoria type deal now.
by kcscoliny on
May 14, 2008 9:30 PM EDT
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I think it is with the Tigers pen
I count pitches.
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May 14, 2008 9:31 PM EDT
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It's a good thing with this Tigers pen.
‘Cause they’re awful.
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May 14, 2008 9:31 PM EDT
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Aquilino Lopez is decent, I think that's about it thoguh
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by slayor on
May 14, 2008 9:32 PM EDT
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If we can mount a threat this inning
he won’t make it to 6
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May 14, 2008 9:30 PM EDT
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anyone see this
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3396451
could bode well for resigning Greinke
sign Greinke a Evan Longoria type deal now.
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May 14, 2008 9:32 PM EDT
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I would like to hear GMDM's thoughts on it
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The New Rays certainly know what they are doing
They just keep sigining elite talent to below market deals, and then top them off with team options that eliminate any risk with the extra year(s).
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May 14, 2008 9:36 PM EDT
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Pena
makes up for the one he didn’t get earlier.
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May 14, 2008 9:33 PM EDT
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Nice to see Luke just staying with the fastball
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by slayor on
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This strike zone is terrible
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by slayor on
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agreed
but its both ways…
I count pitches.
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May 14, 2008 9:35 PM EDT
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Weee..busting out the 4 seamer for the punchout
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That.... is really annoying. 2 out 4 pitch walk
This is wher eyou end up wasting a bunch o fpitches and giving away runs
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May 14, 2008 9:37 PM EDT
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Luke, Luke, Luke
How can you be so effective and so frustrating at the same time?
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by jonfmorse on
May 14, 2008 9:37 PM EDT
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Honestly, watching him pitch reminds me a LOT of Fausto Carmona
Well, especially 2008 Carmona – he hasn’t been throwing a lot of strikes, but he continues to get guys out because he keeps the ball down. It can be maddening to watch, but in reality, when he does throw a strike all you can do it beat it into the ground.
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by slayor on
May 14, 2008 9:40 PM EDT
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Don't ask me to explain
But I’m convinced, just by watching HOW he moves around the bag, that Billy will be a very good, albeit quietly so, first baseman. No flash, no gold gloves, but he’ll be good.
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by jonfmorse on
May 14, 2008 9:39 PM EDT
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A two-base strikeout
I haven’t seen one of those in ages.
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by jonfmorse on
May 14, 2008 9:45 PM EDT
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Alright, let's turn this gift into a run
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by slayor on
May 14, 2008 9:46 PM EDT
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between inning question
when at the ballpark, what is your favorite kind of sunflower seeds?
I count pitches.
by royallyblue on
May 14, 2008 9:47 PM EDT
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that works......
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by royallyblue on
May 14, 2008 9:48 PM EDT
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Long cut mint here
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by jonfmorse on
May 14, 2008 9:50 PM EDT
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I like long cut wintergreen
The new Skoal Edge is great.
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May 14, 2008 9:50 PM EDT
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I used to use WG
But it just got to the point where it felt like it was burning my lip. Mint doesn’t have that effect.
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by jonfmorse on
May 14, 2008 9:51 PM EDT
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Yeah, that's true
I used to chew Cope, but that stuff will mess your lip up something fierce.
by royaldaddy on
May 14, 2008 9:52 PM EDT
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The kind that
aren’t getting spit all over me
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by jonfmorse on
May 14, 2008 9:48 PM EDT
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really thought he hit that a little better
by royaldaddy on
May 14, 2008 9:48 PM EDT
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Damn, I thought that one was gonna plate a run
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by slayor on
May 14, 2008 9:48 PM EDT
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Off the bat
I thought it was gonna plate two.
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by jonfmorse on
May 14, 2008 9:49 PM EDT
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at least he is showing patience tonight
sign Greinke a Evan Longoria type deal now.
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May 14, 2008 9:48 PM EDT
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91 pitches for
Verlander thru 5. 1 more inning then the pen.
sign Greinke a Evan Longoria type deal now.
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At least it looks like we're guaranteed 3 innings of Detroit bullpen
I don’t see how that can’t be anything but a positive. Still, only a 2 run lead… more zeros plz
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by slayor on
May 14, 2008 9:50 PM EDT
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Todd Wellemeyer... 6 IP 1H 3BB 5K
As my fantasy team continues to roll through the Royals Review Yahoo Keeper league
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by slayor on
May 14, 2008 9:51 PM EDT
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Yeah I'm not sure David catches up with that one
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May 14, 2008 9:52 PM EDT
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how far will they ride Hoch?
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by royallyblue on
May 14, 2008 9:54 PM EDT
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He's at 86 right now
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by jonfmorse on
May 14, 2008 9:54 PM EDT
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After this Cabrera single, this is probably his last inning I'm guessing
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by slayor on
May 14, 2008 9:54 PM EDT
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NOW he's done.
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by jonfmorse on
May 14, 2008 9:56 PM EDT
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That 2-2 pitch was strike 3
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by slayor on
May 14, 2008 9:56 PM EDT
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JESUS where was that pitch
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by slayor on
May 14, 2008 9:57 PM EDT
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who
did they show warming in the pen?
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by royallyblue on
May 14, 2008 9:58 PM EDT
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Mahay
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by slayor on
May 14, 2008 9:58 PM EDT
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do they go an inning w/him
then Gobbler/
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by royallyblue on
May 14, 2008 9:59 PM EDT
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Mayday
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by jonfmorse on
May 14, 2008 9:58 PM EDT
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Nice outing, Hooch
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May 14, 2008 9:59 PM EDT
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BAM... SEE YA
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by slayor on
May 14, 2008 10:00 PM EDT
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You will take that outing from your #4-5 starter every single time
His control needs work, but man you can’t complain about what he’s done since being called up.
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by slayor on
May 14, 2008 10:01 PM EDT
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+1
Frustrating as hell to watch, but I’ll take 6 IP 0 R any day.
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by jonfmorse on
May 14, 2008 10:01 PM EDT
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The 3 walks are a bit more bearable when you realize he only gave up 4 hits in 6 innings
But still, if he takes out 2 of those walks, maybe it saves him 10 pitches, he pitches the 7th, etc. He’s gonna get better though and considering how good he’s been already, that’s pretty exciting.
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by slayor on
May 14, 2008 10:03 PM EDT
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The way he grinds his way through jams
impresses me
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May 14, 2008 10:02 PM EDT
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Man, I wish I didn't have to drive three hours
to get to a Hardee’s. I’m having a craving.
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by jonfmorse on
May 14, 2008 10:01 PM EDT
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Thickburger, curly fries, and a handscooped vanilla shake
Dude, that sounds awesome!
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May 14, 2008 10:02 PM EDT
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I just discovered
that they’ve opened on in Stafford, which is only an hour away, and there’s a Roy Rogers in Manassas (15 minutes) that offers the Hardee’s menu!
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by jonfmorse on
May 14, 2008 10:04 PM EDT
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I don't know where you guys live, but here in the Kansas side of the KC suburbs
They closed all the hardees a few years back. Well, I have to drive about 25 minutes. It sucks.
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by slayor on
May 14, 2008 10:05 PM EDT
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I'm about 10 minutes from Saint Joe.
So, I can hit up a Hardees rather quickly (and often).
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May 14, 2008 10:07 PM EDT
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I'm 20 miles WNW of DC
Where I’m also 45 minutes from the nearest Sonic, FOUR HOURS from the nearest Steak-n-Shake, and 45 minutes from the nearest Godfather’s. :/
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May 14, 2008 10:07 PM EDT
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(On the other hand, I have five different Five Guys within 20 minutes of me, since this is where they started.)
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May 14, 2008 10:09 PM EDT
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Oh, man.
You just said the magic word. Godfathers. MMMMMMMMMMMM!!! One thing I miss about Texas is Whataburger. I would have those things air-mailed if I could.
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May 14, 2008 10:09 PM EDT
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Whataburger was always hit-or-miss with me
Some of them are just awesome, and some of them just make me wanna hurl.
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by jonfmorse on
May 14, 2008 10:09 PM EDT
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Meh, KC has to have some of hte worst fastfood selection of any major city.
It’s McDonalds, Burger King, Wendy’s, KFC / Taco Bell / Long John Silvers / A&W, only very recently Chik-Fil-A, Pop Eyes. I think we got one Del Taco now. It’s pretty miserable… not even Jack in the Box, or What a Burger.
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by slayor on
May 14, 2008 10:09 PM EDT
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There's little difference between one national (or regional) burger chain and another
I probably disagree with you.
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May 14, 2008 10:10 PM EDT
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Your NY is showing
In-n-Out, Whataburger, Fatburger, Five Guys >> Hardees >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> McDonalds, Burger King, Wendy’s
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by jonfmorse on
May 14, 2008 10:12 PM EDT
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To me they are all similar, mass-produced burger products
I probably disagree with you.
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May 14, 2008 10:13 PM EDT
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This is the truth
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by slayor on
May 14, 2008 10:13 PM EDT
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I disagree
As a college student that some weeks lives entirely on fast food and tv dinners, there is a huge difference. Your palate just has to be low class enough to appreciate it.
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May 14, 2008 10:13 PM EDT
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Nobody's palate is lower class than mine
Just ask my fiance.
I probably disagree with you.
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May 14, 2008 10:14 PM EDT
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JitB and Whataburger
are both really regional nowadays. So’s Del Taco.
I also miss Taco Bueno and Taco Cabana…
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by jonfmorse on
May 14, 2008 10:11 PM EDT
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I grew up on Taco Tico
I miss that
I probably disagree with you.
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May 14, 2008 10:11 PM EDT
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I don't even wanna think about
how many taco burgers from taco tico i’ve eaten…
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May 14, 2008 10:12 PM EDT
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I miss Taco Via too, something terrible
But they were always KC only anyway.
...Don Chilito’s, too.
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It's a good thing I just ate a Hy-Vee
take and bake pizza or else I’d be making a food run.
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May 14, 2008 10:13 PM EDT
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Those things are money, I love their cheese
It’s so different from most pizza
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by slayor on
May 14, 2008 10:14 PM EDT
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They're on par with the Little Caesars 5 dollar hot n ready
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by slayor on
May 14, 2008 10:15 PM EDT
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I just buy a few of them and put them
in my freezer. Much better than those frozen pizzas in the store.
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May 14, 2008 10:16 PM EDT
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Yeah, I had a burrito bol a couple of hours ago
So I can control my irrational Thickburger craving. For now.
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by jonfmorse on
May 14, 2008 10:15 PM EDT
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Time for some Royals bullpen action... hope they've got 9 outs in'em
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by slayor on
May 14, 2008 10:07 PM EDT
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They usually do
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by NYRoyal on
May 14, 2008 10:10 PM EDT
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Knock on wood
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by slayor on
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i hope there aren't runs mixed in between 9 outs..
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by royallyblue on
May 14, 2008 10:11 PM EDT
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i love getting home and seeing...
we have a CS at third and have had a guy picked off
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May 14, 2008 10:11 PM EDT
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We're very giving in our outs
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by slayor on
May 14, 2008 10:14 PM EDT
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The pickoff was just dumb luck, honestly
Verlander almost threw the ball away, and only Cabrera catching the ball ON Teahen’s shoulder saved the error.
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by jonfmorse on
May 14, 2008 10:18 PM EDT
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Our rotation feels so legitimate... if Gil can get it together
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by slayor on
May 14, 2008 10:17 PM EDT
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Ah - that might be a big "if," then again it might not.
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I think Meche is a lock to be at least a solid #3
I probably disagree with you.
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I hope he can be a good #2
#2 – Meche
#3 – Bannister
#4 – Hochevar
I don’t think Bannister or Hochevar are #2 material, so unless we are waiting for Rosa to come up, then I’m not sure we’ll have a legit #2 if Meche does not come around. Now, that’s still a damn fine rotation, but it could be a little bit better.
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May 14, 2008 10:21 PM EDT
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I think Bannister is definitely #2 material
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Ladies and gentlemen, Tony Pena, Jr.
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My brain just exploded....
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by slayor on
May 14, 2008 10:18 PM EDT
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He's lost a step.
That’s a triple last year.
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May 14, 2008 10:18 PM EDT
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Who's posing as TPJ all of a sudden?
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Because Verlander is pitching like a dumbass
Throwing TPJ an 0-1 changeup when he was late on the heat. Sped up the bat, bam, extra base hit.
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by slayor on
May 14, 2008 10:19 PM EDT
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It's like the "JD Drew just hit a clutch Grand Slam" reaction
only about 1,000 times less meaningful
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I'm turning off my TV after that....
Take shelter!
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May 14, 2008 10:18 PM EDT
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Me thinks we absolutely have to find a way to get this run i.
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by slayor on
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That is, if Gator is not bunting I'm going to be baffled.
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May 14, 2008 10:20 PM EDT
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jinx
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May 14, 2008 10:20 PM EDT
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I sense an upcoming GatorBunt™.
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gator bunting him over?
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You can count on some manufacturing
ultra-small ball
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May 14, 2008 10:20 PM EDT
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what would be the ultimate small ball?
bunting with one out?
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May 14, 2008 10:21 PM EDT
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Bunting every time up, Gathright-style
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May 14, 2008 10:24 PM EDT
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Gator almost singled.
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No kidding, that was close. Which is why that's the right play there 100% of the time.
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May 14, 2008 10:21 PM EDT
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except when there's two outs...
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May 14, 2008 10:22 PM EDT
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Time for the suicide squeeze?
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Time to find a fly ball hitter?
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God.... still can't get the run in. Ugh
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Gordo is going to hit the Ford...o
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AT LEAST WE'RE GOOD AT THE FUNDAMENTALS GUYS
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That's gotta sting Alex's pride a little. He was walked TO and he's supposed to be one our best bats.
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Lefty vs. lefty
though
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The idea is if Gordon was hitting like he should, lefty-lefty shouldn't matter.
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It would matter to most managers
Particularly when that manager has crappy relievers to work with
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Yeah, it's like who else does he have out there. Zach Miner? Aquilino Lopez?
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But no one walks to get to feared hitters.
How many people walk to get to Hanley Ramirez? BJ Upton? I doubt that many, because they are feared young hitters. That’s the part that should sting Gordon.
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I wouldn't surprised if there was a IBB to get to Upton
He’s not Pujols or A-Rod and he doesn’t get treated like them. All Leyland had to work with was getting the best matchup for his LOOGY. That leads to some odd moves.
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If he takes it out on the ball
and hits the Ford, I’m cool with it.
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Aaaaaaaand Grudz almost got picked off...
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That was the pitch to hit
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wow, that was a close pitch
i’ll take the walk though
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Wow... I guess Guillen is going to get his shot
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Wow. Not that I mind
but that was a small strike zone for Gordo.
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Dear Jose Guillen:
Drive in some runs.
Signed, Royals Review
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Your ideas intrigue me, sir, and I would like to subscribe to your newsletter.
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RBI's are for selfish people. Do the right thing and strikeout.
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Oh come on Jose
Keep your feet in your cleats
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Fukudome would have hit a grand slam
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You mean "Fuckyoudome" right?
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So would've E-mail.
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huber would have doubled & advanced to tihrd on the throw
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Huber would have
watched it on TV in Omaha
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Yabuta may have given one up to him....
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Paging Barack Obama . . .
“What happens, see, these people have gone through years of loss and frustration, so they cling to guys like Fukudome, and Huber . . . “
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Ugh.
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This offense is really good at piling the pressure on this pitching staff...
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I wouldn't want them to rob Soria of a save situation.
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It is, after all, the most important thing
If Soria doesn’t win Rolaids, the season is a bust
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May 14, 2008 10:36 PM EDT
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I hear he'd get a free case of Rolaids for that
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Comes in handy
while watching the first 8 innings of a Royals game
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you all okay with Mahay in the 8th?
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Yank him if a runner gets on I guess
He’s been about as good as anybody else
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