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Game 39 Open Thread - Tigers (16-23) at Royals (17-21)

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Detroit Tigers @ Kansas City Royals


Your pitching matchup:

W-L ERA WHIP K BB
2008 - Luke Hochevar 2-2 4.94 1.47 19 11

W-L ERA WHIP K BB
2008 - Justin Verlander 1-6 6.43 1.47 30 21


Remember when Jim Leyland's Old School wisdom and take-no-gruff attitude was so inspirational and perfect?

Oh, and Verlander's ugly ERA? Guess what starting pitcher has had the most tack-on runs charged to him thanks to poor bullpen support? Yea, that'd be Justin Verlander.

 

 

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Gah!!!!

I wish I had been first. /kicks-a-rock

I really don't know what to say... Did the post above this signature make sense? Probably not.

by RoyalsFanInMarinerTown on May 14, 2008 7:48 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I have a feeling!

This is going to be an EPIC game! Everyone should recommend this thread to get it on the front page of SportsNation!

Support my nomination for the front page!

I really don't know what to say... Did the post above this signature make sense? Probably not.

by RoyalsFanInMarinerTown on May 14, 2008 7:50 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Another shameless plug:

While waiting for the game, check out the “Greinke and the Brain Theme Song” fanpost and let me know what you think. I might make it into a Youtube video if people like it enough.

by Eppenweb on May 14, 2008 7:51 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Pena

is he in the lineup?

sign Greinke a Evan Longoria type deal now.

by kcscoliny on May 14, 2008 8:00 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

This is one of the days Pena should be in the lineup

Hochevar so far has been an extreme groundball pitcher—52% GB%.

by Gopherballs on May 14, 2008 8:07 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Oh, please do make a video!

That would rock.

I really don't know what to say... Did the post above this signature make sense? Probably not.

by RoyalsFanInMarinerTown on May 14, 2008 8:02 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Today's Lineup

Granderson, CF .229
Polanco, 2B .274
Guillen, 3B .294
Ordonez, RF .306
Cabrera, 1B .262
Joyce, LF .333
Thames, DH .260
Renteria, SS .266
Rodriguez, C .278

DDJ, LF .311
Grud, 2B .328
Gordo, 3B .274
Guillen, DH .216
Billy, 1B .279
T-Bag .270
Bucky, C .268
TPJ, SS (ugh) .165
Gator, CF .250

I count pitches.

by royallyblue on May 14, 2008 8:04 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Nice

No Gload. Now, if only Callaspo was starting at short.

by royaldaddy on May 14, 2008 8:06 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Good thing we got

Gator and his sub-.600 OPS in. The next Spreadsheet baseball article is not going to be for the faint of heart.

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on May 14, 2008 8:22 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

huber is starting tonight for the padres

I predict 4-4 with 3 grand slams and an inside the park homer

by royalsreview on May 14, 2008 8:04 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

*Inside the park grand slam

He’ll top it off by making a catch and climbing the outfield wall to steal a kiss from the nearly nude Victoria’s Secret model sitting in the cheap seats.

winning records follow good bullpens

by slayor on May 14, 2008 8:08 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Seconded,

and speaking of “terrible unlikely home runs,” damn Jay Payton to hell.

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on May 14, 2008 8:20 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Nice work by Hoch there.

He’s fitting right in with this rotation.

by royaldaddy on May 14, 2008 8:15 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

He'll rebound

he’s way too good of a pitcher not to end the the year with an ERA around 4.

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on May 14, 2008 8:21 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

over/under?

Gordon seeing 11 pitches tonight.

I count pitches.

by royallyblue on May 14, 2008 8:21 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'll take over

I’m still quite optimistic-reasonably, I think-about A-Gord this year. Plus, Verlander can have bouts of wildness where I’m pretty sure I could work a walk off him.

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on May 14, 2008 8:23 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Unforunately Verlander seems to be throwing moderately hard today...

I think I’ve watched every game he’s started this season, and in a lot of them he’s been working 91-93mph. Today it’s 93-95. It also seems like he’s thrown a ridiculous number of offspeed pitches this year, and he’s been getting burned on a lot of them. Really seems to fall in love with his curveball.

winning records follow good bullpens

by slayor on May 14, 2008 8:25 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

In case it has not been noted elsewhere

Fangraphs.com has two articles on its front page related to two subjects of interest: (1) Dayton Moore’s white whale, Wladimir Balentien (comparing him to Wily Mo Pena) and (2) Justin Verlander’s struggles this year (scroll down). Verlander has been unlucky, but his fastball is down 1.5 MPH and his K/9 and BB/9 rates are going the wrong direction.

by Gopherballs on May 14, 2008 8:25 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

18 pitch 1st inning

wish we could do that more often.

sign Greinke a Evan Longoria type deal now.

by kcscoliny on May 14, 2008 8:27 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Where is Hoch's count?

I’d guess good to fair?

I count pitches.

by royallyblue on May 14, 2008 8:33 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

21 pitches in 2 innings.

winning records follow good bullpens

by slayor on May 14, 2008 8:34 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I have to say, I've been really impressed with Luke's slider.

Reading the scouting reports on him coming up, I was under the impression that his best pitches are fastball curveball. To date though, in the majors the curveball really hasn’t been there but the slider has been money – it’s a legitimate swing and miss pitch for him. Hopefully it can remain that way – a lot of guys pitch a long time in the big leagues without developing a swing and miss breaking ball.

winning records follow good bullpens

by slayor on May 14, 2008 8:33 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Go Butts!

Swing that stick!

I really don't know what to say... Did the post above this signature make sense? Probably not.

by RoyalsFanInMarinerTown on May 14, 2008 8:35 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Butler

1st to 3rd. Looked like he was pulling a plow, but nevertheless…

I count pitches.

by royallyblue on May 14, 2008 8:37 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

GODDAMNIT

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on May 14, 2008 8:39 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Sigh.

winning records follow good bullpens

by slayor on May 14, 2008 8:39 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Walking TPJ... just wow

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by slayor on May 14, 2008 8:41 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Now TPJ can hit into a 3-0 DP

oh, wait, he WALKED?

“Help, I’m slippin’ into the twilight zo-one…”

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on May 14, 2008 8:41 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

hey, me and my co-workers could not come up

with who sang that song. Help me out, who was it?

by royaldaddy on May 14, 2008 8:43 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Golden Earring.

“So you will come to knowww… when the bullet hits the bone, whaa-aa-oh, when the bullet hits the bone…”

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on May 14, 2008 8:44 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Golden Earring

I had to try to decipher the lyrics one time; they’re Dutch, so the phraseology and terminology is nearly impossible to figure out at times.

I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.

by philofthenorth on May 14, 2008 8:45 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

according to

Denny Mathews Butler made the correct play. Force the 3rd baseman to make the decision.

sign Greinke a Evan Longoria type deal now.

by kcscoliny on May 14, 2008 8:41 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

We have to get a run here...

winning records follow good bullpens

by slayor on May 14, 2008 8:42 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

God joey just put the ball in play

winning records follow good bullpens

by slayor on May 14, 2008 8:43 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You know what you'd be saying

if he’d “just put the ball in play” on the ground to second base. ;)

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on May 14, 2008 8:45 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

There we go.

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on May 14, 2008 8:44 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Wow.... that is definitely how Joey would get a RBI hit

But props to him for putting the ball in play. Execute, good things happen.

winning records follow good bullpens

by slayor on May 14, 2008 8:44 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That is how he had his high OBP/BA success last year

That is why I was a big supporter of him.

I really don't know what to say... Did the post above this signature make sense? Probably not.

by RoyalsFanInMarinerTown on May 14, 2008 8:45 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I approve of that attempt, actually.

So I’m okay.

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on May 14, 2008 8:46 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Oh my god what the fuck was that

UGHHHH

winning records follow good bullpens

by slayor on May 14, 2008 8:46 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

How, how how do we give a free out to a struggling pitcher

My brain is exploding

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by slayor on May 14, 2008 8:46 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It was a good spot for the attempt

And it would have put them both in scoring position for DDJ. It was an attempt to allow our hottest hitter to drive a stake through the Tigers in the second inning.

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on May 14, 2008 8:48 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It was a terrible spot

Pena isn’t good at stealing bases, lefty at the plate, Verlander is quick to deliver and Pudge behind the dish. Grudz has killed the Tigers all year, a double steal is not playing for the big inning. Not to mention Verlander was fighting the strike zone. Total waste of an out.

winning records follow good bullpens

by slayor on May 14, 2008 8:49 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

double steal with a

lefthander up at the plate

sign Greinke a Evan Longoria type deal now.

by kcscoliny on May 14, 2008 8:47 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I have a feeling i'm going to be going Denny Green after this game...

WE KNEW EXACTLY WHO THEY WERE…AND WE LET ‘EM OFF THE HOOK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I have many leather bound books...

by juano on May 14, 2008 8:49 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Man, if Billy can be the regular 1B and Gload the Defensive replacement . . .

That would open a huge hole for another impact bat once Guillen got healthy, and into next year. Dunn, anyone?

by Eppenweb on May 14, 2008 8:53 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Dunn is hitting .203 right now and

he’s a strikeout monster. How much are you willing to pay?

by royaldaddy on May 14, 2008 8:54 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Dunn has been the free agent big bat of choice around here . . .

but I realize he might not be worth it. Who would you prefer?

by Eppenweb on May 14, 2008 8:58 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'm glad he's having a down year

Hopefully that will decrease the interest in him and his price. I wouldn’t overreact to one bad year….ever.

I probably disagree with you.

by NYRoyal on May 14, 2008 9:00 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

DOH!

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on May 14, 2008 8:53 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Will Guillen be ready

for Interleague play? Or is he limited to DHing?

I count pitches.

by royallyblue on May 14, 2008 8:54 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I hope

but watching him labor around the bases yesterday makes me wonder.

I count pitches.

by royallyblue on May 14, 2008 8:59 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

He sure didn't look ready to play in the field

Man, our pitching better show up for those interleague games or we are t-o-a-s-t.

winning records follow good bullpens

by slayor on May 14, 2008 9:01 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I don't mind playing a LFer with limited range

He can get around. It would limit his range, but I can live with that.

I probably disagree with you.

by NYRoyal on May 14, 2008 9:02 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Well, he did

to the extent that he kept the lead runner from going to third.

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on May 14, 2008 8:55 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Clutch pitching by young Skywalker

Get ahead in the count, then get the out

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by slayor on May 14, 2008 8:58 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Good job Luke.

Maybe he’ll actually earn that “Cool Hand” nickname Rany wants to give him.

by Eppenweb on May 14, 2008 8:59 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

lets look

at some pitches Verl at 41 entering inning.

sign Greinke a Evan Longoria type deal now.

by kcscoliny on May 14, 2008 9:02 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

10 points for Alex

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on May 14, 2008 9:03 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Gordon Will Steal

I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.

by philofthenorth on May 14, 2008 9:07 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

18 pitches?

Plus a throw to first.

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on May 14, 2008 9:08 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

D'oh, Billy got himself out on that pitch

But it’s ok, because Verlander is labouring and Hoch is cruising.

winning records follow good bullpens

by slayor on May 14, 2008 9:08 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

NBA Playoffs Update

CLE46, BOS 43 – Halftime

Blown Save

by BlownSave on May 14, 2008 9:09 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Guillen's nickname should be "Mr. Hacktastic" . . .

leader of the Hacktastic Four: Guillen, Olivo (The Bulk), TPJ (The Invisible Bat), Gload (The Human EXGLOSION!)

by Eppenweb on May 14, 2008 9:09 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

No, no

Olivo is “The Swing”.

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on May 14, 2008 9:11 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

And Pena might be “The Ineffectual Twirl”...

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on May 14, 2008 9:12 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

He can be the new AO

only instead of Amos Otis, it’s automatic out

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by slayor on May 14, 2008 9:13 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I remember Jason Grimsley getting tossed from a game

at the K once and just going nuts! He threw stuff out on the field. Used a bat against a water cooler. The works. Then, it seemed crazy. Now, I know it was just “roid rage”.

by royaldaddy on May 14, 2008 9:16 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I met Jason Grimsley opening day 05 I think?

It was after his last season for the Royals, I think he was signed to the Dbacks or whatever and was injured but he was at opening day in the stands. I went up and talked to him, he was pretty cool. Before that I had always thought he was a huge douchebag.

winning records follow good bullpens

by slayor on May 14, 2008 9:18 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Filth

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on May 14, 2008 9:19 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Pretty solid 4 innings.

winning records follow good bullpens

by slayor on May 14, 2008 9:20 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Don't look now, but the Indians are about to run away with the division.

Yikes. Their starting pitching over the past 10 days has been insane. Sabathia just churned out a CG SHO tonight. They are rolling.

winning records follow good bullpens

by slayor on May 14, 2008 9:23 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Hooch's Pitch Count

59 through 4.

I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.

by philofthenorth on May 14, 2008 9:23 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

what the

hell is Teahan doin

sign Greinke a Evan Longoria type deal now.

by kcscoliny on May 14, 2008 9:25 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Leadoff Walks Are

Wildly overrated.

I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.

by philofthenorth on May 14, 2008 9:25 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

75 I think

He should be good for 7 at this pace

winning records follow good bullpens

by slayor on May 14, 2008 9:29 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

don't know

if gettin to the pen is a good thing with this Royals team.

sign Greinke a Evan Longoria type deal now.

by kcscoliny on May 14, 2008 9:30 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

If we can mount a threat this inning

he won’t make it to 6

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on May 14, 2008 9:30 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

anyone see this

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3396451

could bode well for resigning Greinke

sign Greinke a Evan Longoria type deal now.

by kcscoliny on May 14, 2008 9:32 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The New Rays certainly know what they are doing

They just keep sigining elite talent to below market deals, and then top them off with team options that eliminate any risk with the extra year(s).

by Gopherballs on May 14, 2008 9:36 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Pena

makes up for the one he didn’t get earlier.

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on May 14, 2008 9:33 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

This strike zone is terrible

winning records follow good bullpens

by slayor on May 14, 2008 9:34 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

agreed

but its both ways…

I count pitches.

by royallyblue on May 14, 2008 9:35 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That.... is really annoying. 2 out 4 pitch walk

This is wher eyou end up wasting a bunch o fpitches and giving away runs

winning records follow good bullpens

by slayor on May 14, 2008 9:37 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Luke, Luke, Luke

How can you be so effective and so frustrating at the same time?

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on May 14, 2008 9:37 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Honestly, watching him pitch reminds me a LOT of Fausto Carmona

Well, especially 2008 Carmona – he hasn’t been throwing a lot of strikes, but he continues to get guys out because he keeps the ball down. It can be maddening to watch, but in reality, when he does throw a strike all you can do it beat it into the ground.

winning records follow good bullpens

by slayor on May 14, 2008 9:40 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Don't ask me to explain

But I’m convinced, just by watching HOW he moves around the bag, that Billy will be a very good, albeit quietly so, first baseman. No flash, no gold gloves, but he’ll be good.

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on May 14, 2008 9:39 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

A two-base strikeout

I haven’t seen one of those in ages.

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on May 14, 2008 9:45 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

between inning question

when at the ballpark, what is your favorite kind of sunflower seeds?

I count pitches.

by royallyblue on May 14, 2008 9:47 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

+1

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on May 14, 2008 9:48 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Long cut mint here

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on May 14, 2008 9:50 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I used to use WG

But it just got to the point where it felt like it was burning my lip. Mint doesn’t have that effect.

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on May 14, 2008 9:51 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yeah, that's true

I used to chew Cope, but that stuff will mess your lip up something fierce.

by royaldaddy on May 14, 2008 9:52 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The kind that

aren’t getting spit all over me

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on May 14, 2008 9:48 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

at least he is showing patience tonight

sign Greinke a Evan Longoria type deal now.

by kcscoliny on May 14, 2008 9:48 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

91 pitches for

Verlander thru 5. 1 more inning then the pen.

sign Greinke a Evan Longoria type deal now.

by kcscoliny on May 14, 2008 9:49 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

At least it looks like we're guaranteed 3 innings of Detroit bullpen

I don’t see how that can’t be anything but a positive. Still, only a 2 run lead… more zeros plz

winning records follow good bullpens

by slayor on May 14, 2008 9:50 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Todd Wellemeyer... 6 IP 1H 3BB 5K

As my fantasy team continues to roll through the Royals Review Yahoo Keeper league

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by slayor on May 14, 2008 9:51 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That 2-2 pitch was strike 3

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by slayor on May 14, 2008 9:56 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

JESUS where was that pitch

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by slayor on May 14, 2008 9:57 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

who

did they show warming in the pen?

I count pitches.

by royallyblue on May 14, 2008 9:58 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Mahay

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by slayor on May 14, 2008 9:58 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Nice outing, Hooch

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on May 14, 2008 9:59 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

BAM... SEE YA

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by slayor on May 14, 2008 10:00 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You will take that outing from your #4-5 starter every single time

His control needs work, but man you can’t complain about what he’s done since being called up.

winning records follow good bullpens

by slayor on May 14, 2008 10:01 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

+1

Frustrating as hell to watch, but I’ll take 6 IP 0 R any day.

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on May 14, 2008 10:01 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The 3 walks are a bit more bearable when you realize he only gave up 4 hits in 6 innings

But still, if he takes out 2 of those walks, maybe it saves him 10 pitches, he pitches the 7th, etc. He’s gonna get better though and considering how good he’s been already, that’s pretty exciting.

winning records follow good bullpens

by slayor on May 14, 2008 10:03 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Man, I wish I didn't have to drive three hours

to get to a Hardee’s. I’m having a craving.

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on May 14, 2008 10:01 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I just discovered

that they’ve opened on in Stafford, which is only an hour away, and there’s a Roy Rogers in Manassas (15 minutes) that offers the Hardee’s menu!

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on May 14, 2008 10:04 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I don't know where you guys live, but here in the Kansas side of the KC suburbs

They closed all the hardees a few years back. Well, I have to drive about 25 minutes. It sucks.

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by slayor on May 14, 2008 10:05 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'm about 10 minutes from Saint Joe.

So, I can hit up a Hardees rather quickly (and often).

by royaldaddy on May 14, 2008 10:07 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'm 20 miles WNW of DC

Where I’m also 45 minutes from the nearest Sonic, FOUR HOURS from the nearest Steak-n-Shake, and 45 minutes from the nearest Godfather’s. :/

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on May 14, 2008 10:07 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

(On the other hand, I have five different Five Guys within 20 minutes of me, since this is where they started.)

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on May 14, 2008 10:09 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Oh, man.

You just said the magic word. Godfathers. MMMMMMMMMMMM!!! One thing I miss about Texas is Whataburger. I would have those things air-mailed if I could.

by royaldaddy on May 14, 2008 10:09 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Whataburger was always hit-or-miss with me

Some of them are just awesome, and some of them just make me wanna hurl.

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on May 14, 2008 10:09 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Meh, KC has to have some of hte worst fastfood selection of any major city.

It’s McDonalds, Burger King, Wendy’s, KFC / Taco Bell / Long John Silvers / A&W, only very recently Chik-Fil-A, Pop Eyes. I think we got one Del Taco now. It’s pretty miserable… not even Jack in the Box, or What a Burger.

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by slayor on May 14, 2008 10:09 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Your NY is showing

In-n-Out, Whataburger, Fatburger, Five Guys >> Hardees >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> McDonalds, Burger King, Wendy’s

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on May 14, 2008 10:12 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Oh, man

I used to go to the original Fatburger in Wilshire LA. Where they’d cook your burger right in front of you. On a grill. With fresh patties.

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on May 14, 2008 10:15 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

This is the truth

winning records follow good bullpens

by slayor on May 14, 2008 10:13 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I disagree

As a college student that some weeks lives entirely on fast food and tv dinners, there is a huge difference. Your palate just has to be low class enough to appreciate it.

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by slayor on May 14, 2008 10:13 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Nobody's palate is lower class than mine

Just ask my fiance.

I probably disagree with you.

by NYRoyal on May 14, 2008 10:14 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

JitB and Whataburger

are both really regional nowadays. So’s Del Taco.

I also miss Taco Bueno and Taco Cabana…

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on May 14, 2008 10:11 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I grew up on Taco Tico

I miss that

I probably disagree with you.

by NYRoyal on May 14, 2008 10:11 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I don't even wanna think about

how many taco burgers from taco tico i’ve eaten…

I count pitches.

by royallyblue on May 14, 2008 10:12 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I miss Taco Via too, something terrible

But they were always KC only anyway.

...Don Chilito’s, too.

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on May 14, 2008 10:13 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It's a good thing I just ate a Hy-Vee

take and bake pizza or else I’d be making a food run.

by royaldaddy on May 14, 2008 10:13 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yeah, I had a burrito bol a couple of hours ago

So I can control my irrational Thickburger craving. For now.

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on May 14, 2008 10:15 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i love getting home and seeing...

we have a CS at third and have had a guy picked off

by royalsreview on May 14, 2008 10:11 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

We're very giving in our outs

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by slayor on May 14, 2008 10:14 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The pickoff was just dumb luck, honestly

Verlander almost threw the ball away, and only Cabrera catching the ball ON Teahen’s shoulder saved the error.

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on May 14, 2008 10:18 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I hope he can be a good #2
1 – Greinke
#2 – Meche
#3 – Bannister
#4 – Hochevar

I don’t think Bannister or Hochevar are #2 material, so unless we are waiting for Rosa to come up, then I’m not sure we’ll have a legit #2 if Meche does not come around. Now, that’s still a damn fine rotation, but it could be a little bit better.

by Eppenweb on May 14, 2008 10:21 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

My brain just exploded....

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by slayor on May 14, 2008 10:18 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

He's lost a step.

That’s a triple last year.

Blown Save

by BlownSave on May 14, 2008 10:18 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Because Verlander is pitching like a dumbass

Throwing TPJ an 0-1 changeup when he was late on the heat. Sped up the bat, bam, extra base hit.

winning records follow good bullpens

by slayor on May 14, 2008 10:19 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Time for the suicide squeeze?

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by slayor on May 14, 2008 10:22 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It would matter to most managers

Particularly when that manager has crappy relievers to work with

I probably disagree with you.

by NYRoyal on May 14, 2008 10:26 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

But no one walks to get to feared hitters.

How many people walk to get to Hanley Ramirez? BJ Upton? I doubt that many, because they are feared young hitters. That’s the part that should sting Gordon.

by Eppenweb on May 14, 2008 10:28 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I wouldn't surprised if there was a IBB to get to Upton

He’s not Pujols or A-Rod and he doesn’t get treated like them. All Leyland had to work with was getting the best matchup for his LOOGY. That leads to some odd moves.

I probably disagree with you.

by NYRoyal on May 14, 2008 10:29 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

If he takes it out on the ball

and hits the Ford, I’m cool with it.

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on May 14, 2008 10:25 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That was the pitch to hit

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by slayor on May 14, 2008 10:26 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

wow, that was a close pitch

i’ll take the walk though

Blown Save

by BlownSave on May 14, 2008 10:27 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Wow. Not that I mind

but that was a small strike zone for Gordo.

by royaldaddy on May 14, 2008 10:28 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Oh come on Jose

Keep your feet in your cleats

winning records follow good bullpens

by slayor on May 14, 2008 10:31 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Ugh.

winning records follow good bullpens

by slayor on May 14, 2008 10:32 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It is, after all, the most important thing

If Soria doesn’t win Rolaids, the season is a bust

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on May 14, 2008 10:36 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Comes in handy

while watching the first 8 innings of a Royals game

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on May 14, 2008 10:37 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

For now

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on May 14, 2008 10:34 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yank him if a runner gets on I guess

He’s been about as good as anybody else

winning records follow good bullpens

by slayor on May 14, 2008 10:35 PM EDT