Measuring Intangibles – the GRIT Average
We statheads are often accused of focusing only on that which can be counted and ignoring the critical intangibles which truly define a player. Well, that ends today. After literally minutes of diligent work, I have created a stat which measures grit. I recognize the inherent difficulty in measuring an intangible. But grit does manifest itself in a number of quantifiable ways. I identified the following as important indicators of grit:

Age – While sometimes young players have grit beyond their years, typically a player acquires grit over the years, like soap scum in your bathtub
Batting Average – Gritty players hit…kind of. But they’re not particularly interested in drawing walks or even hitting for power. And they like tradition. Old school stats and old school hitting means maximizing your batting average.
Batting Average with Runners in Scoring Position – Saying that gritty players are clutch is like saying the sky is blue. It is obvious and undebatable.
Caught Stealing – Gritty players are aggressive on the basepaths. They run and they don’t stop running until they are called out. So one may argue that stolen bases should be counted. But stolen bases show speed and skill, not grit. Getting caught stealing shows that the player is trying even when he’s failing. It shows that his aggressiveness and will to win has no bounds.
Better Fielding than Hitting – Hitting is sexy and , while fielding is pedestrian and blue collar. Therefore, obviously, gritty players are better fielders than hitters.
Good Clubhouse Presence – One of the surest marks of a gritty player is that he’s a good clubhouse guy. He’s a positive presence and sometimes even a teacher to younger players.
Leadership – The grittiest players are leaders. They wear the “C” on their jersey. When players are asked who is taking a leadership role on the team, the names of the grittiest players always come up.
Playing Injured – While they often spend time on the DL, gritty players also play through injury. Injuries don’t slow them down; it just fires them up and makes them play even harder.
With these factors in mind, I developed a stat which I called the Game Related Intangible Talent Average, or GRIT Average. It is computed as follows:
(Age x 10)+(BA x 100)+(BARISP x 100)+(CS*10)+Bonus
Bonuses
Better fielder than hitter +30
Good clubhouse guy +20
Team leader +20
Plays injured +30
That gives you a raw GRIT Average. Multiply that by .00075 and you get the Equivalent GRIT Average, or EqGRIT which is roughly on the same scale as batting average.
I crunched the numbers for this year and last year and this is what I came up with:
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2008 |
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Player |
EqGRIT |
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M. Grudzielanek |
0.407 |
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Ross Gload |
0.330 |
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David DeJesus |
0.321 |
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John Buck |
0.290 |
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J. Gathright |
0.286 |
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Jose Guillen |
0.285 |
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E. German |
0.279 |
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Tony Pena Jr. |
0.277 |
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Miguel Olivo |
0.272 |
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Mark Teahen |
0.257 |
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A. Callaspo |
0.251 |
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Alex Gordon |
0.247 |
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Billy Butler |
0.227 |
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2007 |
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Player |
EqGRIT |
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M. Grudzielanek |
0.413 |
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R. Sanders |
0.363 |
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Ross Gload |
0.354 |
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Mike Sweeney |
0.344 |
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J. Gathright |
0.338 |
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E. German |
0.325 |
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Tony Pena Jr. |
0.318 |
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David DeJesus |
0.310 |
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Jason LaRue |
0.308 |
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Emil Brown |
0.298 |
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Paul Phillips |
0.295 |
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Mark Teahen |
0.287 |
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Ryan Shealy |
0.272 |
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Jason Smith |
0.260 |
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Alex Gordon |
0.255 |
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John Buck |
0.248 |
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Angel Berroa |
0.247 |
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Shane Costa |
0.245 |
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Billy Butler |
0.217 |
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Justin Huber |
0.203 |
I don’t think it will surprise anyone that the Royals resident gritmaster Mark Grudzielanek leads the team in EqGRIT this year as well as last year. He can always be counted on for All-Star quality grit. Gload also sits near the top of both lists, as he should. DeJesus has performed pretty well, grit-wise and I’m happy to see Buck having a grit rebound after an extremely low-grit 2007. And then there’s Justin Huber. A .203 EqGRIT? No wonder they sold him for $50K.
Finally, this is a new stat and therefore a work in progress. If you’ve got any suggestions on additions or changes, feel free to share them. I might actually try to come up with a GRIT Average for pitchers as well.
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Finally,
the things that don’t show up in the box score can show up in the box score. Grudz would be wise to bring these numbers to his next contract negotiation.
by raefzilla on
May 14, 2008 11:46 PM EDT
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We need to include pitchers who “succeed” by logging 170 innings of 5.60 ERA, and not striking anyone out.
I think, also, gritty players should receive bonuses for facial stubble and being generally less athletic/graceful than others.
Fans like gritty players because they see some of themselves in these players.
by sumajestad on
May 15, 2008 12:07 AM EDT
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I think the bonus for "look" is a good idea
Looks like he delivers beer as a side job: +20
Facial hair: +10
Facial hair dyed team color: +40
by stuckinstl12 on
May 15, 2008 12:23 AM EDT
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I like the idea
But I do think all dyed facial hair is more “goofy young punk” than “gritty gamer”.
I probably disagree with you.
by NYRoyal on
May 15, 2008 12:25 AM EDT
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I was thinking the Spiezio prototype only.
Hey, do DWI’s count?
by stuckinstl12 on
May 15, 2008 1:30 AM EDT
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When John Buck was rocking the long hair last year
He definitely looked like someone who delivered beer as a side job. ‘Cept for the whole being Mormon. Glad to see he still ranks high on the grit-o-meter, though.
And now that I see LaRue’s GRIT average from last year, it all makes sense why Buddy was playing him all the g.d. time.
by DarthYoshi on
May 15, 2008 12:33 AM EDT
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Brilliant
I would say this is the greatest sabremetric discovery since the heady days of Silver and McCracken, if sabremetrics wasn’t a bunch of crap thought up by a bunch of xxxxx in their xxx’s xxxxx.
This is great, though. Possible improvements:
K:moving a guy over ratio
Walk:bunt ratio
Big bonus for significant time with the Cardinals or in their system
Selfish homers:sac fly ratio
inches under 6 feet tall
Somehow figure in the humber of times the announcers refer to the player per broadcast as “grinder,” “leader,” etc.
I’ll try to think of more. But you are still the man.
Hope is not a strategy. And neither is playing Tony Pena every day. (Rany Jazayerli)
by devil_fingers on
May 15, 2008 12:29 AM EDT
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I love the acronym by the way
Game Related Intangibles Talent, thats great.
I would also look into the promising stat of HUSTLE – Heuristically Uncertain Statistical Totals of Liveliness and Energy
by raefzilla on
May 15, 2008 12:44 AM EDT
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HUSTLE...very nice
Now come up with one for CHUTZPAH
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by NYRoyal on
May 15, 2008 2:04 AM EDT
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awesome
Surprised that Gathright scored so high. But not too surprised.
Is there any metric where Huber scores well?
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by marbotty on
May 15, 2008 1:41 AM EDT
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If only we could measure fan attention/love/longing/hype
If we measured a/l/l/h per major league at bat, Huber’s average would be through the roof.
I probably disagree with you.
by NYRoyal on
May 15, 2008 2:04 AM EDT
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the proper name for that measurement is the Erubiel
or perhaps the Cust
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by marbotty on
May 15, 2008 7:12 AM EDT
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yes...
internet love would probably have to be a demerit to GRIT
by royalsreview on
May 15, 2008 6:52 PM EDT
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yes... what is the opposite of Grit?
smoothness?
the Smooth guys are guys like Huber
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by LeoBloom on
May 16, 2008 1:16 AM EDT
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I should create a SMOOTH stat
Statistical
Metric
Of
Ostensibly
Talentless
Hype
I probably disagree with you.
by NYRoyal on
May 16, 2008 1:22 AM EDT
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pine tar
pine tar as a bonus would be good. gritty players have a tendency to use excessive amounts of pine tar on their bats, to the point where it lingers on their helmet for their entire career. also, some gritty players leave stripes on their back from ridiculous swings. i’d say +20 in this would be a good addition.
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by kcisbetterthanstlateverything on
May 15, 2008 3:41 AM EDT
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You forgot to factor in a critical component
Whiteness. Everyone knows non-Caucasian players are genetically less disposed toward grit, especially if they’re short.
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by jonfmorse on
May 15, 2008 6:08 AM EDT
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Maybe
But, shortly, I think this is a bit of a red herring for certain bloggers. For example: Juan Pierre.
Hope is not a strategy. And neither is playing Tony Pena every day. (Rany Jazayerli)
by devil_fingers on
May 15, 2008 10:19 AM EDT
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should there be some kind of speed penalty?
i want my gritty guys slow as hell
by royalsreview on
May 15, 2008 10:27 AM EDT
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I dunno
Speed, or at least apparent speed, is a big part of “grit.” That’s part of the reason guys like David Eckstein, Juan Pierre, and Torriiii Hunter are always thoughts of “gritty.” You know, because they don’t selfishly walk and clog the bases like slow, patience sluggers do.
Hope is not a strategy. And neither is playing Tony Pena every day. (Rany Jazayerli)
by devil_fingers on
May 15, 2008 10:48 AM EDT
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Is Eckstein really gritty?
I think he’s really scrappy more than anything else. Is speedy grit considered scrappy then?
by mazoboom on
May 16, 2008 12:45 AM EDT
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Interesting thesis topic
How can one quantify the difference between grit and scrappiness? There is a huge overlap between scrappy and gritty. I think the key difference is age. A 21-year-old rookie can be scrappy, but cannot be gritty. Eckstein is 33, so I think he is transitioning from merely scrappy to genuinely gritty. I think you’re right that speed is also an element. Speed is not a necessary element of grit (and I think it is somewhat anti-gritty), but it is a necessary element of scrappiness.
I probably disagree with you.
by NYRoyal on
May 16, 2008 12:52 AM EDT
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Perhaps scrappy is a subset of grit
Scrappy is for “little” guys. A big guy can be gritty, but not scrappy. A little guy can be both scrappy and gritty.
But is it a subset or just an intersecting set? Can one be scrappy without being gritty?
Somehow, these stats need to incorporate an element or perception and/or media acclaim, especially for speed. I don’t think Eckstein’s particularly fast (and correct me on this if I’m wrong), but he’s seen as fast, probably because he doesn’t clog the bases like non-gritty players such as Frank Thomas.
Hope is not a strategy. And neither is playing Tony Pena every day. (Rany Jazayerli)
by devil_fingers on
May 16, 2008 11:10 AM EDT
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Love this post
Well done, NYRoyal! Finally, a way to fully appreciate gritty ballplayers!
by cookierojas73 on
May 15, 2008 11:09 AM EDT
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floorburns
one of the more important stats has to be uniform condition.
Grass & Dirt stains from sliding/diving. +1 if achieved on offense, +3 if on defense.
+5 for tearing the uniform during game play.
Also Pine Tar on the helmet is worth something, but pine tar on your back from your backswing is even better.
Vaseline or other substance on the hat etc, should also count bonus points for pitchers.
Size: Grit should be inversely proportional to height/weight. Eckstein is a monster. Andy Sisco isn’t. Randy Johnson has the hair, to make up for his height disadvantage.
by David Howards Legacy on
May 15, 2008 11:44 AM EDT
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height metric
Since taller players can be gritty, I think the GRIT stat should leave this qualification out. Therefore, I’m proposing the 2 other statistics.
SHORT - Separation Height Over Resident Team. Average team height is easy to calculate, so SHORT is measured as the differential of height of a specific player from the team which he plays for. SHORT is positive for Elves and negative for Sisquatches, thereby rewarding Eckstein and knocking Sisco down a bit. Randy will have to make up points for his hair…
SHIT = SHORT + GRIT (ala OPS = OBP + SLG…) A players SHIT stat encompasses their SHORTiness and their GRITtiness, with GRIT being the more important of the two statistics. This way, when two players who are the same height, but one Has a higher GRITtitude, they will have very different SHITtiness.
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by KC Chris on
May 15, 2008 1:54 PM EDT
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I like the suggestions
except isn’t the stuff on the pitchers hat cheating? I a gritty/scrappy player never, EVER cheats. Well, they might, but then it’s called gamesmenship, rather than a disgrace.
Hope is not a strategy. And neither is playing Tony Pena every day. (Rany Jazayerli)
by devil_fingers on
May 16, 2008 11:11 AM EDT
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Gritty position players don't cheat. But gritty pitchers do cheat.
PED’s and bat corking are not gritty. But spitballs and scuffing are part of a long tradition of quasi-accepted cheating and are therefore, very gritty.
I probably disagree with you.
by NYRoyal on
May 16, 2008 11:39 AM EDT
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What about Greenies?
We also need to adjust this whole metric for era. For example, no one freaks out any more over Babe Ruth getting caught with corked bats, but if he did now people would freak (even though we now know that it isn’t an advantage).
Hope is not a strategy. And neither is playing Tony Pena every day. (Rany Jazayerli)
by devil_fingers on
May 16, 2008 12:12 PM EDT
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GRIT+
Hope is not a strategy. And neither is playing Tony Pena every day. (Rany Jazayerli)
by devil_fingers on
May 16, 2008 12:12 PM EDT
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Actually, Ruth did use a corked bat, at least sometimes
I read that one of Ruth’s bats was in a travelling “history of baseball” exhibition and some Mariners players went to view the exhibition. They saw that there was a circle of wood at the end of the bat where the grain was going in a different direction from the rest of the wood grain. It was a “plug” that you put in after you hollow out the bat and put the cork in. It was your standard corked bat. But Ruth is everybody’s hero, so it was essentially ignored. He is also reported to have taken amphetamines sometimes before games (and god knows what other recreational drugs). Again, nobody cares, because he’s The Babe.
I probably disagree with you.
by NYRoyal on
May 16, 2008 2:06 PM EDT
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Yeah
Again, I’m agreeing with you. I was actually referencing the same story (I got it from the New Historical Abstract). The Greeines don’t surprise me (although all the other drugs probably “balanced them out.”
The greenies question re: the old days actually came to me when,during Bonds chase, I read someone who asked whether Hank Aaron might have been on greenies when he broke the record. In the current climate, I doubt anyone is going to chase down that story, though.
Hope is not a strategy. And neither is playing Tony Pena every day. (Rany Jazayerli)
by devil_fingers on
May 16, 2008 2:10 PM EDT
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VURP
Can we develop a way to measure VURP (Value Under Replacement Player)? The true gritty vet is often playing, against most people’s better judgement, when a younger, higher-ceiling player could be getting valuable MLB experience.
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by SittinByTheFoulPole on
May 15, 2008 11:58 AM EDT
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Good
But maybe it should be tweaked to reflect the how the player can’t be replaced. Perhaps we need IPI: Irreplaceable Player Index.
Hope is not a strategy. And neither is playing Tony Pena every day. (Rany Jazayerli)
by devil_fingers on
May 16, 2008 11:19 AM EDT
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measuring the intangibles...
I like it…Its like resisting the irresistable force or moving the immovable object.
I would give credit for games suspended due to a fight, you’d get Olivo up the list a little.
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by juano on
May 15, 2008 1:43 PM EDT
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now that i think about it
“intangible” is a terrible term. any thing we’ve derived stats for are essentially “intangible” —rbis, homeruns, VORP.
Maybe they should call them “immeasurables” – because you can’t measure heart or grit. And that would actually make this thread even better, because it would be measuring the immeasurable.
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by marbotty on
May 15, 2008 2:12 PM EDT
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You should consider
Adding dummy variables that correspond to a player being white, and one for being short. Ecksteinn isn’t being represented properly in this model.
by Sorry About Dresden on
May 15, 2008 3:41 PM EDT
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being born in the US
you never really a guy from Curacao being called gritty…
although Orlando Cabrera is pretty praised in White Sox homerism… and he’s Venezuelan
by royalsreview on
May 15, 2008 6:54 PM EDT
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I must again
mention Juan Pierre, who gets just as much or more undeserved praise than Eckstein. So “shortness” is a factor. Unless you’re certain firejoemorgan.com writers, who probably learned that everything was a racist plot during their brief interludes of sobriety at Stanford/Berkeley/Harvard. Pretty ironic, given that some writers have claimed the opposite, that sabremetric analysis was biased against nonwhite players because it devalued skills taht said players were allegedly associated with, e.g., steals. Of course, that turned out to be B.S., too.
But that’s a rant for another time. Whatever makes a bunch of well-off-and-miserable “dudes” happy and makes them feel like their interesting hobby has GREAT SOCIAL SIGNIFICANCE is fine with me—every field can use some self-righteousness, self-appointed priests. That’s enough, as this could turn serious and ugly, and this thread is too fun for that.
I’ve written more than I wanted to to begin with, but let me say that Aaron Gleeman had a different suggestion a while back. In the context of his frustration with Rod Gardenhire’s personel choices, he wrote that he used to think that Gardenhire simply favored veterans, especially in his comments to the press. But Gleeman later just figured that Gardenhire, particularly in his comments to the press, just took it easier on/more frequently complimented players who were simply crappy, like he was as a player. This appeals to a certain sector of sportswriters who have romantic, 1960s notions of “one person making a difference” and all that sentimental nonsense, and they’ve imported into their non-analysis of baseball. They also tend to be non-athletic, so when they see someone like David Eckstein seeming to do JUST THROUGH EFFORT AND GRIT, well, they get excited. Many of them are short asmatics, so when they see the rare occasion when Juan Pierre actually gets on base, they think THEY CAN DO IT, TOO, maybe, because everyone has a special gift, unlimited potential, and so. It’s the crude egalitarianism and sentimentalism of these people that’s the problem.
Much more could be written, but as I said, this isn’t the place.
Hope is not a strategy. And neither is playing Tony Pena every day. (Rany Jazayerli)
by devil_fingers on
May 15, 2008 7:57 PM EDT
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sub categories
I don’t know if Pierre gets talked about as gritty though. It seems like there is a subcategory of beloved speed players, but maybe not quite the same as Eckstein love.
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by DyeFan187 on
May 15, 2008 10:37 PM EDT
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I don't think you have to use the word
Check out any Plashcke (sp?) column about Juan Pierre, and/or firejoemorgan.com’s archive of Pierre-related articles. The latter “loves” Pierre about as much as Eckstein. Remember he is a diminuative leadoff man, a veteran, and has a ring!
I think with the smallness and media acclaim over against their general suckiness, it’s the same category.
Let’s not even get into the massive counterexample: Jeter (unless you’re Gary Sheffiled, then Jeter counts the other way.)
Hope is not a strategy. And neither is playing Tony Pena every day. (Rany Jazayerli)
by devil_fingers on
May 16, 2008 11:14 AM EDT
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Hee hee
This was awesome.
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by NHZ on
May 15, 2008 6:07 PM EDT
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the best part about this is that you actually ran the numbers
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by LeoBloom on
May 16, 2008 1:15 AM EDT
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I take ALL stats seriously
I probably disagree with you.
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