Game 41 Open Thread - Royals (19-21) at Marlins (23-17)
Kansas City Royals @ Florida Marlins
The Battle for Scott Pose's Legacy Begins!
The Royals turn to Brett Tomko (5.67 ERA) tonight in Florida hoping to extend their modest four game winning streak and inch ever closer to the .500 mark. Battling Tomko, will be Andrew Miller (6.52 ERA). Get this, despite being an incredibly hyped young pitching prospect, Miller has struggled. Incredible!
Of course, the Royals have to deal with the weird Marlins are really good in interleague play factor, which is totally relevant because Florida has always been noted for having a very stable roster. They're like the 1970s Dodgers practically.
Speaking of that roster, for some reason I totally thought that Marlin backup catcher Mike Rabelo was a former Royal. But that would be wrong. Didn't the Royals once have a guy with a name like that? I'm blanking.
Should be a fun game tonight. The library should be inhabitable again, now that Finals Week has ended here at one of Iowa's finest schools for undergraduate education. As someone who a) likes the library and b) spends much time there, I always resent the four-day influx of undergrads, especially since they manage to maintain their firm avoidance of ever using a book. No, it's Google and Wikipedia and Spark/Cliff/Pink Monkey online and nothing else. But it's all good because the U of I is a public institution, which means that hey, every two or three days the place gets cleaned! So there's not much trash anywhere. No, there's about as much trash as there is turnover on the Marlins roster, which is to say, none.
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First...
Huzzah! Time for a beer in celebration.
by blue bandwagon on
May 16, 2008 6:24 PM EDT
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damn you bluebandwagon
just beat me
by royalsreview on
May 16, 2008 6:25 PM EDT
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wait a minute...how do you get beat on the first post when you're the one that puts the thread up?
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by billybeingbilly on
May 16, 2008 6:44 PM EDT
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by the way... i recommend that people poke around at Fish Stripes
the marlins blog
the guy there is another old-timer like me… he’s been blogging there since 2005…
by royalsreview on
May 16, 2008 6:29 PM EDT
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i am dedicating...
My first first post to tony pena jr. may he bloop single and infield chopper his way to that mighty mendoza line he cherishes so much. a noble goal which we all one day will hope to have come true. you can do it little buddy, we’re pulling for you!
by blue bandwagon on
May 16, 2008 6:29 PM EDT
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just a general question to get things started...
why dont teams skip their 5th starters when an off day gives them a chance to use their better pitchers on normal rest, like tonite would?
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by billybeingbilly on
May 16, 2008 6:36 PM EDT
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I assume it is because they like occasionally giving their starters an extra day's rest
I don’t know if that’s a good reason in September. I’m pretty sure it’s not a good reason in May.
I probably disagree with you.
by NYRoyal on
May 16, 2008 6:40 PM EDT
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seems like it'd be beneficial...
we’d get 3-4 more starts out of our 4 best pitchers and if by chance one of these starters is forced to leave the game early, we have tomko out there ready to go 3 innings and one time through the lineup where he is most effective
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by billybeingbilly on
May 16, 2008 6:46 PM EDT
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been wishing they'd do it forever with Tomko...
especially since they semi-skipped his first start, which is how we’re in this situation in the first place… i thought someone was on the right track mentally… alas…
by royalsreview on
May 16, 2008 6:55 PM EDT
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tomkos really not an awful 5th starter, but it is stupid to have him pitch when its not at all necessary
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by billybeingbilly on
May 16, 2008 7:00 PM EDT
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It seems like when MLB made its move to a 5-man rotation, it became an article of the faith
Now it seems like they almost never want to tamper with the sacrosanct 5-man rotation, even when you can do so without anyone pitching on short rest.
I probably disagree with you.
by NYRoyal on
May 16, 2008 7:01 PM EDT
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i really wish some manager with a solid track record would go back to the 4 man rotation
thats the only way it’ll happen is if someone like larussa or cox just said ‘fuck it…my fifth starter sucks’ im not gonna pitch him
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by billybeingbilly on
May 16, 2008 7:13 PM EDT
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4 man PAP
This is the same board that argues about just how serious PAP is, but a 4-man rotation is still on the table? We’d probably have to re-run all of the sabermetric calculations if that happens…
I mean, I’m all about the four-man rotation, but I’m just not certain that it and a strict adherence to worries about PAP aren’t some exotic sort of doublethink. Yes, I know you’re talking about pitches per start, but I would guess those pitch count numbers would shrink if it were a 4-man rot.
by wentToARoyalsGameBeforeRR on
May 16, 2008 7:29 PM EDT
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im not normally involved in he pap conversations....
i think pitchers should just toughen up a little bit
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by billybeingbilly on
May 16, 2008 7:32 PM EDT
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I know, not you...
I put the reply on the wrong one… meant to go one above that one. Not that I’m baiting a fight, though it may seem that way - really, I don’t know nearly enough about PAP to have that conversation on too deep of a level. Just had a thought and wanted to put it out there.
But speaking of toughening up… forget the pitchers, what about the NBA??? I tell you what, I’ve played hockey and I’ve played basketball, and there’s no way those two sports should have equal time off before games.
Unless Ron Artest is in the starting five of your opponents.
by wentToARoyalsGameBeforeRR on
May 16, 2008 7:43 PM EDT
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playing 48 mins of basketball is tough
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by billybeingbilly on
May 16, 2008 7:44 PM EDT
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It depends
on your GRIT average, really.
by wentToARoyalsGameBeforeRR on
May 16, 2008 7:46 PM EDT
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Actually, the creators of PAP love the 4-man rotation idea
Rany and Woolner love the 4-man rotation, with monitored pitch counts. Their research shows that it isn’t a dangerous workload.
I probably disagree with you.
by NYRoyal on
May 16, 2008 10:38 PM EDT
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Just a note
While Miller’s numbers aren’t good for the whole season, his last two starts have been pretty good. Let’s hope that ends tonight, though.
by I need more Esteban on
May 16, 2008 6:38 PM EDT
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Pro Robbie Dolphin Bowl Stadium, to be exact.
Apparently you’re more worried about the “Marlins good in interleague” factor than the “Marlins have 4th best record in MLB” factor…?
by wentToARoyalsGameBeforeRR on
May 16, 2008 6:38 PM EDT
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I don't even look at the record of National League teams
by royalsreview on
May 16, 2008 6:56 PM EDT
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they keep score?
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by billybeingbilly on
May 16, 2008 7:00 PM EDT
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Remember what we did to Andrew Miller last year?
August 29, 2007
0.2 ip, 5 h, 5 r, 5 er, 2 bb, 1 k
That was his last start in the majors last year.
I probably disagree with you.
by NYRoyal on
May 16, 2008 6:42 PM EDT
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Greinke
gets a few AB’s this weekend. That’s exciting.
by I need more Esteban on
May 16, 2008 6:45 PM EDT
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last time i remember him hitting he gave up like 12 runs to the dbacks
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by billybeingbilly on
May 16, 2008 6:46 PM EDT
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But he hit a HR!
I probably disagree with you.
by NYRoyal on
May 16, 2008 6:47 PM EDT
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Was that pre
or post therapy?
by I need more Esteban on
May 16, 2008 6:49 PM EDT
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pre... it was long ago...
I remember those games. I was in Colorado for some reason, and it was pretty difficult to do regular posting….
will’s memories
by royalsreview on
May 16, 2008 6:57 PM EDT
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so, i'll take away one of them and he only gave up 11
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by billybeingbilly on
May 16, 2008 6:49 PM EDT
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Anybody know why no DeJesus?
Is he hurt?
I probably disagree with you.
by NYRoyal on
May 16, 2008 7:10 PM EDT
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it worked yesterday?
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by billybeingbilly on
May 16, 2008 7:12 PM EDT
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Gathright is a very patient leadoff hitter
winning records follow good bullpens
by slayor on
May 16, 2008 7:13 PM EDT
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missed the first AB...sarcasm or no?
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by billybeingbilly on
May 16, 2008 7:14 PM EDT
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Maury Wills Didn't
Bunt this often.
I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.
by philofthenorth on
May 16, 2008 7:15 PM EDT
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Well, Miller still looks like garbage
Let’s get him guillen
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by slayor on
May 16, 2008 7:14 PM EDT
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Tomko Mashes
His career line:
311 450 23 71 9 0 0 29 0 1 19 177 .158 .191 .178
I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.
by philofthenorth on
May 16, 2008 7:15 PM EDT
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i hate pitchers hitting
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by billybeingbilly on
May 16, 2008 7:16 PM EDT
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Me too.. unless it's micah owings
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by slayor on
May 16, 2008 7:16 PM EDT
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so, is everyone that was trashing guillen the first month a fan now?
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by billybeingbilly on
May 16, 2008 7:16 PM EDT
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It was just a matter of time until he started hitting
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by slayor on
May 16, 2008 7:17 PM EDT
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if you listened to 99% of the people on this site, he was the worst signing and the worst player ever
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by billybeingbilly on
May 16, 2008 7:17 PM EDT
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All I have to say is
that I can call Jose my boy without having to check and see if anyone’s about to call me on my hypocrisy!
Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.
by jonfmorse on
May 16, 2008 7:32 PM EDT
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me as well
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by billybeingbilly on
May 16, 2008 7:34 PM EDT
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Jo-Gui Is Hot
Of late, no?
I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.
by philofthenorth on
May 16, 2008 7:17 PM EDT
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8 game streak...9 rbis in that span
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by billybeingbilly on
May 16, 2008 7:18 PM EDT
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Now that we've given Bombko a lead to blow
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by slayor on
May 16, 2008 7:18 PM EDT
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Hello, I Must
Be going; it’s nice out today. I’ll be listening.
I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.
by philofthenorth on
May 16, 2008 7:18 PM EDT
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Very nice first inning... walk,double, 2 run single. That's how our offense is gonna have to execute to win
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by slayor on
May 16, 2008 7:19 PM EDT
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apropos zilch:
was listening to an interview with aubrey huff a few days ago on espn news and in response to the last question of the interview, “what’s the most important statistic to you, as a hitter?”: he said, “RBI’s”. the interviewer (who, presumably is stat-friendly), basically porky pigged his way into the break, trying his hardest not to insult him. anyway, just thought that it was a pretty clear indication that Brian Bannister is still in the minority when it comes to statistical appreciation/application…
by billexgordler on
May 16, 2008 7:22 PM EDT
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rbis make you money...fluky or not and thats what most players care about
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by billybeingbilly on
May 16, 2008 7:23 PM EDT
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Good god, I'm watching the Indians at Reds game simultaneously
Great American Ballpark is a freakin’ bandbox. Place plays like a minor league stadium.
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by slayor on
May 16, 2008 7:23 PM EDT
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that place sucks....i dont know what HOK was thinking with that one
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by billybeingbilly on
May 16, 2008 7:25 PM EDT
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I don't understand why MLB approved the dimensions.
It’s just too small. If I was a pitcher, there is no way in hell I would sign a contract to play there.
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by slayor on
May 16, 2008 7:26 PM EDT
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agreed.
i’ve been to all but the Washington Nationals new park and between Cincy and St. Louis, there isn’t a single original idea. HOK is generally fine, but I really think they stopped innovating somewhere along the line…
by billexgordler on
May 16, 2008 7:26 PM EDT
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busch and cincy are my two least favorite newish stadiums and ive been to pretty much all of em
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by billybeingbilly on
May 16, 2008 7:27 PM EDT
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yeah.
they’re awful. every other new one (post-skydome, i’m talking) has a number of things going for it, but st. loo and cincy are just bland. it’s too bad, too, because you only get one shot per generation on these deals.
by billexgordler on
May 16, 2008 7:34 PM EDT
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I think they were thinking...
football stadium
by mikewormdog on
May 16, 2008 7:25 PM EDT
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oops....
thought you were talking the stadium in miami
by mikewormdog on
May 16, 2008 7:28 PM EDT
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Hey Buck, you get winters off...
ever hear of Natural Family Planning??
I kid, congratulations.
I have many leather bound books...
by juano on
May 16, 2008 7:27 PM EDT
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maybe this explains his late season slump last year....
too busy making babies
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by billybeingbilly on
May 16, 2008 7:28 PM EDT
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i hate tony pena
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by billybeingbilly on
May 16, 2008 7:28 PM EDT
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We have to get rid of Tomko
and get someone with a better bat in there.
Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.
by jonfmorse on
May 16, 2008 7:35 PM EDT
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There goes half the lead...
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by slayor on
May 16, 2008 7:38 PM EDT
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That was Uggly.
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by jonfmorse on
May 16, 2008 7:38 PM EDT
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Fastball down ze middle.
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by slayor on
May 16, 2008 7:38 PM EDT
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when the hell are we going to luck into a 30 hr hitter like uggla?
the closest thing i can think of is vlademil
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by billybeingbilly on
May 16, 2008 7:40 PM EDT
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We had Ibanez but let him go
He had a 30 bomb year for Seattle, I think
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by slayor on
May 16, 2008 7:44 PM EDT
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Here comes the walk after the home run...
Required by all major league pitchers
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by slayor on
May 16, 2008 7:39 PM EDT
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Man I'm good.
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by slayor on
May 16, 2008 7:40 PM EDT
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anyone else watch the games on mlb.tv?
if so, what’s your policy of checking the royalsreview thread in key situations? with the lag, i’m always able to figure out what happens before it actually happens by reading the threads…can you protect against it?
by billexgordler on
May 16, 2008 7:39 PM EDT
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get dircet tv or move
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by billybeingbilly on
May 16, 2008 7:40 PM EDT
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well then...i dont know what to tell ya...other than the obvious
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by billybeingbilly on
May 16, 2008 7:42 PM EDT
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And now the wheels start to come off tomko
Fun
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by slayor on
May 16, 2008 7:41 PM EDT
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That was an awesome no-IBB.
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by jonfmorse on
May 16, 2008 7:42 PM EDT
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billy catches fly balls better than gordo
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by billybeingbilly on
May 16, 2008 7:42 PM EDT
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Can tomko get the pitcher out?
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by slayor on
May 16, 2008 7:43 PM EDT
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lets walk a 6'6 pitcher to load the bases...thatd be fun
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by billybeingbilly on
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Andrew Miller looks like he's
about 14.
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by jonfmorse on
May 16, 2008 7:44 PM EDT
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We just got bailed out byt the pitcher batting
Thank you National League
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by slayor on
May 16, 2008 7:44 PM EDT
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Gotta love seeing that pitcher's spot come up in the lineup
Wonder if NL opponents will think the same about KC’s 8th and 9th slots.
Tomko has the ability to get the K!
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May 16, 2008 7:46 PM EDT
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Pitchers Hitting Pumps
My nads.
I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.
by philofthenorth on
May 16, 2008 7:45 PM EDT
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Man, Phil, that's
a weird fetish.
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May 16, 2008 7:46 PM EDT
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I Think That
Was Judd Nelson in “The Breakfast Club”.
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by philofthenorth on
May 16, 2008 7:47 PM EDT
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Mmmm, just-legal Ally Sheedy.
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by jonfmorse on
May 16, 2008 7:49 PM EDT
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She's Legal Now

I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.
by philofthenorth on
May 16, 2008 7:52 PM EDT
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She was much cuter in 1985.
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by jonfmorse on
May 16, 2008 7:54 PM EDT
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Yeah....
But not unheard of. There seem to be large pockets of people who really appreciate this stimulation in cities such as St. Louis, Atlanta, Los Angeles, and San Francisco. They congregate at the ball parks to get their ethereal high from watching pitchers bat.
It really spooks the shit out of me, though. ;)
I really don't know what to say... Did the post above this signature make sense? Probably not.
by RoyalsFanInMarinerTown on
May 16, 2008 7:49 PM EDT
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Joey G... 4 pitches and 2 outs tonight, yikes
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by slayor on
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So much for that plate discipline and working the count
especially with a young guy who has shaky control on the mound.
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May 16, 2008 7:48 PM EDT
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it's too bad that...
Miller didn’t match up with Hochevar in this series. That would’ve been fun…
by billexgordler on
May 16, 2008 7:49 PM EDT
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Unfortunately, Andrew Miller has suddenly found his control
And is throwing everything for strikes. Tomko better get his act together next inning.
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by slayor on
May 16, 2008 7:50 PM EDT
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Think Hochevar has gotten a bad rap in the draft deal
He sat out a year in the holdout and spend time in the minors learning to pitch with not his best stuff. I think Hochevar will be a good big league starter for many years.
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May 16, 2008 7:50 PM EDT
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i agree...
...and with the way power sinker-ballers are having such great success (Wang, Carmona, Webb, et al), it seems like his ceiling’s been raised to that of a legitimate #1 guy.
by billexgordler on
May 16, 2008 7:53 PM EDT
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Has Florida ever visited the K?
Or is this the first time we’ve ever played them?
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by jonfmorse on
May 16, 2008 7:53 PM EDT
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The Radio Crew
Said they have.
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by philofthenorth on
May 16, 2008 7:53 PM EDT
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i hate tony pena
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by billybeingbilly on
May 16, 2008 7:53 PM EDT
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You mean you don't think that should be an infield single?
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by slayor on
May 16, 2008 7:54 PM EDT
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nah...booted routine grounders are errors in my world
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by billybeingbilly on
May 16, 2008 7:55 PM EDT
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Way to go there, mister defensive wizard.
Quit telling me how awesome Pena is in the field. I mean it.
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May 16, 2008 7:53 PM EDT
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Jesus
That beard does not make him look cool, or tough. It also doesn’t help him make plays.
I really don't know what to say... Did the post above this signature make sense? Probably not.
by RoyalsFanInMarinerTown on
May 16, 2008 7:54 PM EDT
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Oh, no
The obligatory strike-zone shrink when the wheels are clearly coming off the opposing pitcher.
by Royals Nation on
May 16, 2008 7:54 PM EDT
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Yeah, this strike zone sucks... Tomko got squeezed there, and Miller got 2 very high strikes on Guillen
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by slayor on
May 16, 2008 7:55 PM EDT
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hahaha
So true
I really don't know what to say... Did the post above this signature make sense? Probably not.
by RoyalsFanInMarinerTown on
May 16, 2008 7:55 PM EDT
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for every spectacular play he makes, he makes an error
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It's A Zen
Thing; yin and yang.
I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.
by philofthenorth on
May 16, 2008 7:55 PM EDT
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I have a bad feeling about this game
A 2-1 lead really feels more like a tie, given this “offense”.
The good news is that, as much as every game counts and I’d like to win, at least there’s a 4-game win streak to signal a bit of margin for error. But still….let’s win this damn ballgame.
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May 16, 2008 7:57 PM EDT
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I'm just worried because the marlins can mash
Unlike the Tigers, who are supposed to be able to but can’t
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by slayor on
May 16, 2008 7:58 PM EDT
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we're gonna get this one
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by billybeingbilly on
May 16, 2008 7:58 PM EDT
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God I love tomko... from 0-2 to 3-2 on 3 pitches baby
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by slayor on
May 16, 2008 7:58 PM EDT
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The 3-2 slider, they never see it coming
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by slayor on
May 16, 2008 7:59 PM EDT
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Jayson werth has 7 RBI's in 2 innings against the Jays
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by slayor on
May 16, 2008 8:01 PM EDT
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If he was a real man he'd have 8
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May 16, 2008 8:03 PM EDT
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2 grand slams in 2 innings is difficult, the 3 run bomb and slam are easier
I wish he was on my fantasy team
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whats with all the Jayons
instead of jason
does that Y mean something?
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Jose leads the league
in balls off the top of the wall
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Probably better than average for #5 guy
Weirdly.
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and he's been very unlucky
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May 16, 2008 8:06 PM EDT
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Jose Guillen is hurting the ball righ now
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Runner at 3rd; less than 2 out
Can we score the runner?
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I heard that Olivo kills lefties
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I say....
Yea!
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k coming
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May 16, 2008 8:07 PM EDT
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wow...definitely didnt expect a 15 ft infield single
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May 16, 2008 8:09 PM EDT
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Butler can SLG over .361
I know it
live the dream
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As soon as he stops hitting ground balls
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who knows where to find his groundball rate relative to league average?
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Good job running up the pitch count, Miggy
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olivo's pretty fast for a ca
tcher.
I have many leather bound books...
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especially a fat one
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The official scorer is on crack tonight.
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Now the double play is set up for teahen
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league average ground ball rate 44% billy around 49%
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That's no good
:(
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i cannot fucking believe we just did that
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Yeah, but it erases the double play
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hahahahahahaha
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does pena lead the team in IBB?
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Holy shit
that was crazy…..
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worse than the buck/tpj h&r combo
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Olivo steals a base off a lefty
TERRIBLE IDEA.. but ill take it
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Teahan with the CLUTCH whiff
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mmmmmm
My favorite
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OMG
IBB for Pena
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Didn't Tomko....
hit .286 a few years ago?
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Mark Teahen on pace to knock in 40 runs this year
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JUST LET THAT SINK IN
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yeah...i pointed that out yesterday...then i cried
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Ship his ass to bench?
Call up Costa? I’d consider it.
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Well he sure hasn't done shit this year
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Miller
Does he remind anyone else of Barry Zito? Not necessarily in stuff, but more demeanor and delivery.
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HAHAHAHAH!
PENA INT’D.. That will be the only time in his career
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Watch Tomko get a hit.
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it happened already this year before tonite
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I would rather have Tomko batting than Pena anyway
Thanks guys
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he mioght even get an extension
ala Gload and Grudz
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All this preaching of mine re: extensions
I wouldn’t want Moore & the front office to interpret it the wrong way.
(Like they actually read or view my comments, or care, haha).
Still, that would be frightening.
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the career numbers that someone posted earlier looked alot like penas
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Wow.. Tomko 0 for his last 34
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BASE HIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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HAHAHAHAHAHA
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HAHAHHAHAHA
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Jesus
E3
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i agree with that actually...since you cant give them both errors...that was an easy easy pickup
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E6?
I thought Helms dropped the ball…
Missed throw
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Pumped
I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.
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May 17, 2008 12:18 PM EDT
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Oh my holy (#*@#* lmao
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all setup by Billy's productive out and the H&R/Steal
right?
right?
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Does anyone else love Gator's expressions
when he gets a bad strike call as much as I do?
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I love Joey because he's so 'hood
His postgame comments are the best. “You know man, just doin’ my thang…”
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May 16, 2008 8:18 PM EDT
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this is like the worst half-inning in major league history
aside from Guillen’s double, it’s been a stupidity and incompetence fest
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May 16, 2008 8:18 PM EDT
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this is outrageous
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Andrew Miller walking Joey Gathright to score a run.... Yes, this inning is epicly hilarious
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May 16, 2008 8:19 PM EDT
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dayton would obviously take pena over hanely and that play proves it
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHHAHAH
YES
Yasuhiko Yabuta is to Major League Baseball as Drew Carey is to The Price is Right
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The Marlins are imposing
MANDATORY OFFENSE!
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Gator with the RBI walk
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This inning really makes you wonder who does the advance scouting for the Marlins
And how much longer they will have their job
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I wouldn’t be surprised if they even have scouts.
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May 16, 2008 8:20 PM EDT
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I have seen instructional league innings that were better played
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And this team leads the NL East
What does that tell you?
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May 16, 2008 8:20 PM EDT
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That they've already played the Nats nine times?
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Grud
Your on my fantasy team… care to get a hit?
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Thanks bud.
You always were my hero
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by focs on
May 16, 2008 8:21 PM EDT
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doesn't this marlins performance look a lot like the royals of the early 21st century?
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Only they have good players
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we had sweeney...they have hanley
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yes, i can Affeldt enduring this kind of inning
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Usually I would bitch about us failing to finish off Miller
But we are so lucky we scored anything there, I will save it for later.
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Plus, he had to throw over 30 pitches that inning anyway.
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May 16, 2008 8:22 PM EDT
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So.. After the double
The Royals struck out twice, hit three infield grounders and had two walks, one of which was intentional
THEY DO THE LITTLE THINGS SO WELL
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May 16, 2008 8:22 PM EDT
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This team puts the fail in fundamentals
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lol
miller is up to 83 pitches…dang, his defense really ‘f’ed him in the a.
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Didn’t know the bullpen at Pro Player had wireless…
then again, baseball players are big internet guys…
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Miller...
is gonna be a helluva pitcher. his breaking ball to lefties is really tough…
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You have to feel sorry for the kid at this point
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He has definitely suffered the Royals pitcher career path
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All tomko has to do now is grit us through 6 innings without hemorrhaging runs
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Dan Ugly is asking Tomko who his daddy is
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Damn
Did you see Gator gun that in again?
Where the hell did that cannon come from? I thought he had a spaghetti arm?
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He's got a nice arm
He’s showed it off a couple times this year.
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Hence "again"
after that rocket he launched earlier this week
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I don't know that I've ever seen a guy improve his D
so much in just one season.
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he’s excited to be playing in front of such a large crowd
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All 19 Marlins fans are in attendance tonight
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Thats why Dolphin Stadium loves football season
Those extra 50 fans puts food on the table for the owner
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It would really be inexcusable to lose this game. There, I said it. If the Royals lose, THERE WILL BE NO EXCUSES MADE FOR THEM.
This is a circumstance I am sure they are dreading.
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The...
...prospect of excuselessness fills them with dread. Keeps them up at night. Sweats them.
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Tomko keeps firing in meatballs to Uggla
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WHOA
Teahen almost got Uggla at second
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Did we ever decide if Ashlee Simpson was hot?
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I'd hit it
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May 16, 2008 8:29 PM EDT
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My ideas of "hot" are a few dozen degrees to the left of the norm
She’s not hot, but I wouldn’t evict her.
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May 16, 2008 8:30 PM EDT
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i only offer eviction notices to vermin...
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I'm pickier than that
But then again, I wouldn’t hit some women that most guys salivate over.
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May 16, 2008 8:33 PM EDT
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fergie
TPJ...you're dead to me
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May 16, 2008 8:35 PM EDT
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I Never Got
That one.
I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.
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I'm glad we got to have this discussion...
I think I’d prefer her to her sister at this point.
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If you believe the tabloids
I feel sorry for Jessica this week.
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May 16, 2008 8:33 PM EDT
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she gets to stare at herself in the mirror everyday
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Yeah, I'd agree with that
but I’ll tell you who I absolutely drool over, Carrie Underwood. I would pack up a run away with her in a heartbeat.
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body is an absolute 10
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I hope he's not referring to Billy.
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billy could be an 11
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AWESOME! Base open and pitcher up next
And we pitch to em.. great fucking job
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i don't disagree with that choice...
miller would probably have been pitch hit for.
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Marlins TV
just pulled Cookie Rojas on the air for a few seconds.
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If Tomko could ever keep pitches down & locate
....he would be lights-out. The problem is that he never has and never will. I’ve never seen such a disparity in stuff + control, mixed with very poor command.
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yea...
I think he was supposed to be a stud prospect back in the day… he just never really tied it all together
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i was just thinking about that...
...his last outing (which I didn’t watch) he must have had ridiculously bad luck. of the 17 balls hit in play against him, 9 went for hits. that seems like bad luck to me, but when it happens repeatedly, season after season, you have to stop calling it luck. at this point he is what he is, a ML-caliber swing guy. Bad enough to hurt you but good enough to keep him around. here’s hoping he can harness stuff this year. stranger things have happened.
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he's terrible
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yeah. pretty much...
but so are lots of guys. anyway, i’d take him over any royals starter from ‘05.
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God, Guillen just sucks.
I wish he’d go back to making outs like he’s supposed to.
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we didn't bring him here for goddam
singles. where’s the power?
(fyi, check your sarcasm meters…are you getting a reading? good.)
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May 16, 2008 8:38 PM EDT
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I'm pouring your post on a biscuit right now.
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Jooooo-seeee Jose Jose Jose
Joooo-seee Jooo-seee!
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Random thought
....I feel like our pitching is performing better than their ERA & peripherals would indicate this far into the season. Do you think our pitching staff has been mismanaged this year? I think for the most part, we’ve continued to do a good job, but keeping Yabuta around is nonsensical, and the Nomo experiment obviously should have never happened.
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How's Ryan Braun doing in Omaha?
I’ve been meaning to check but have been too busy. I still think he deserves another chance.
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we should only have 11 pitchers...
yabuta/peralta are redundant.
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I think the defense is partially to blame
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And the managing.
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I don't think the managing has been that bad.
You’re not going to agree with everything, but I think he’s done just fine.
Blown Save
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but we have pena...how could our defense be bad
TPJ...you're dead to me
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totally agree with this one on the roster
KC could use the extra bat off the bench with Costa, Maier, or Aviles (or even Tupman). Putting Olivo in the DH would make more sense if a 3rd catcher was on the roster. Peralta and Yabuta don’t have much of a role except mop up.
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I like Peralta
I know he’s had a couple of rough outings this year, but he’s normally very consistant.
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i agree.
i don’t understand the hate for peralta around here. he’s very solid. not soria/nunez/ramirez, but very solid.
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that said
if we could trade him for a (new) bag of balls at the deadline i’d do it. middle relievers have a productive half-life of like 150 innings.
by billexgordler on
May 16, 2008 8:47 PM EDT
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yabuta is the problem, agreed
and Costa is the answer
COSTA NOW
by royalsreview on
May 16, 2008 8:48 PM EDT
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I just can't do the Costa thing
We’ve been down that road too many times before.
by royaldaddy on
May 16, 2008 8:49 PM EDT
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i'm keeping the faith on yabuta...
but if someone has to go down, i guess it’d be him.
by billexgordler on
May 16, 2008 8:49 PM EDT
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Not hating on Peralta
Over the past couple of years, he has been one of the most consistent guys on the staff. Just look at the number of appearances. What I’m saying is in this bullpen – Soria – closer, Nunez – short, Gobble – LOOGY, Mahay & Ramirez – middle relief – Peralta is left with mop up or blow out duty.
What a good problem to have – I could see Peralta getting a larger role as the season goes on. Wonder what his trade value will be at the deadline?
by daveyork on
May 16, 2008 8:52 PM EDT
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worth hit another homer
TPJ...you're dead to me
by billybeingbilly on
May 16, 2008 8:49 PM EDT
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yea...
but hey… Jimmy Gobble is a great use of a roster spot. He’s on pace for… what, 12 innings this season
by royalsreview on
May 16, 2008 8:46 PM EDT
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I'm sorry, I wasn't fair to Trey
Gobble is on pace to throw 28 innings.
by royalsreview on
May 16, 2008 8:47 PM EDT
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Yes.
And if/when Pena moves to the bench, he only has value as a defensive sub if there’re 11 pitchers. You can’t afford to keep a one position defender on the bench when you only have 4 spaces.
by billexgordler on
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