Game 41 Open Thread - Royals (19-21) at Marlins (23-17)
Kansas City @ Florida
The Battle for Scott Pose's Legacy Begins!
The Royals turn to Brett Tomko (5.67 ERA) tonight in Florida hoping to extend their modest four game winning streak and inch ever closer to the .500 mark. Battling Tomko, will be Andrew Miller (6.52 ERA). Get this, despite being an incredibly hyped young pitching prospect, Miller has struggled. Incredible!
Of course, the Royals have to deal with the weird Marlins are really good in interleague play factor, which is totally relevant because Florida has always been noted for having a very stable roster. They're like the 1970s Dodgers practically.
Speaking of that roster, for some reason I totally thought that Marlin backup catcher Mike Rabelo was a former Royal. But that would be wrong. Didn't the Royals once have a guy with a name like that? I'm blanking.
Should be a fun game tonight. The library should be inhabitable again, now that Finals Week has ended here at one of Iowa's finest schools for undergraduate education. As someone who a) likes the library and b) spends much time there, I always resent the four-day influx of undergrads, especially since they manage to maintain their firm avoidance of ever using a book. No, it's Google and Wikipedia and Spark/Cliff/Pink Monkey online and nothing else. But it's all good because the U of I is a public institution, which means that hey, every two or three days the place gets cleaned! So there's not much trash anywhere. No, there's about as much trash as there is turnover on the Marlins roster, which is to say, none.
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Huzzah! Time for a beer in celebration.
by blue bandwagon on May 16, 2008 6:24 PM EDT 0 recs
wait a minute...how do you get beat on the first post when you're the one that puts the thread up?
TPJ...you're dead to me
by billybeingbilly on
May 16, 2008 6:44 PM EDT
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by the way... i recommend that people poke around at Fish Stripes
the marlins blog
the guy there is another old-timer like me… he’s been blogging there since 2005…
by royalsreview on May 16, 2008 6:29 PM EDT 0 recs
i am dedicating...
My first first post to tony pena jr. may he bloop single and infield chopper his way to that mighty mendoza line he cherishes so much. a noble goal which we all one day will hope to have come true. you can do it little buddy, we’re pulling for you!
by blue bandwagon on May 16, 2008 6:29 PM EDT 0 recs
just a general question to get things started...
why dont teams skip their 5th starters when an off day gives them a chance to use their better pitchers on normal rest, like tonite would?
TPJ...you're dead to me
by billybeingbilly on May 16, 2008 6:36 PM EDT 0 recs
I assume it is because they like occasionally giving their starters an extra day's rest
I don’t know if that’s a good reason in September. I’m pretty sure it’s not a good reason in May.
I probably disagree with you.
by NYRoyal on
May 16, 2008 6:40 PM EDT
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seems like it'd be beneficial...
we’d get 3-4 more starts out of our 4 best pitchers and if by chance one of these starters is forced to leave the game early, we have tomko out there ready to go 3 innings and one time through the lineup where he is most effective
TPJ...you're dead to me
by billybeingbilly on
May 16, 2008 6:46 PM EDT
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been wishing they'd do it forever with Tomko...
especially since they semi-skipped his first start, which is how we’re in this situation in the first place… i thought someone was on the right track mentally… alas…
by royalsreview on
May 16, 2008 6:55 PM EDT
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tomkos really not an awful 5th starter, but it is stupid to have him pitch when its not at all necessary
TPJ...you're dead to me
by billybeingbilly on
May 16, 2008 7:00 PM EDT
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It seems like when MLB made its move to a 5-man rotation, it became an article of the faith
Now it seems like they almost never want to tamper with the sacrosanct 5-man rotation, even when you can do so without anyone pitching on short rest.
I probably disagree with you.
by NYRoyal on
May 16, 2008 7:01 PM EDT
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i really wish some manager with a solid track record would go back to the 4 man rotation
thats the only way it’ll happen is if someone like larussa or cox just said ‘fuck it…my fifth starter sucks’ im not gonna pitch him
TPJ...you're dead to me
by billybeingbilly on
May 16, 2008 7:13 PM EDT
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4 man PAP
This is the same board that argues about just how serious PAP is, but a 4-man rotation is still on the table? We’d probably have to re-run all of the sabermetric calculations if that happens…
I mean, I’m all about the four-man rotation, but I’m just not certain that it and a strict adherence to worries about PAP aren’t some exotic sort of doublethink. Yes, I know you’re talking about pitches per start, but I would guess those pitch count numbers would shrink if it were a 4-man rot.
by wentToARoyalsGameBeforeRR on
May 16, 2008 7:29 PM EDT
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im not normally involved in he pap conversations....
i think pitchers should just toughen up a little bit
TPJ...you're dead to me
by billybeingbilly on
May 16, 2008 7:32 PM EDT
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I know, not you...
I put the reply on the wrong one… meant to go one above that one. Not that I’m baiting a fight, though it may seem that way - really, I don’t know nearly enough about PAP to have that conversation on too deep of a level. Just had a thought and wanted to put it out there.
But speaking of toughening up… forget the pitchers, what about the NBA??? I tell you what, I’ve played hockey and I’ve played basketball, and there’s no way those two sports should have equal time off before games.
Unless Ron Artest is in the starting five of your opponents.
by wentToARoyalsGameBeforeRR on
May 16, 2008 7:43 PM EDT
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playing 48 mins of basketball is tough
TPJ...you're dead to me
by billybeingbilly on
May 16, 2008 7:44 PM EDT
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It depends
on your GRIT average, really.
by wentToARoyalsGameBeforeRR on
May 16, 2008 7:46 PM EDT
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Actually, the creators of PAP love the 4-man rotation idea
Rany and Woolner love the 4-man rotation, with monitored pitch counts. Their research shows that it isn’t a dangerous workload.
I probably disagree with you.
by NYRoyal on
May 16, 2008 10:38 PM EDT
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Just a note
While Miller’s numbers aren’t good for the whole season, his last two starts have been pretty good. Let’s hope that ends tonight, though.
by I need more Esteban on May 16, 2008 6:38 PM EDT 0 recs
Pro Robbie Dolphin Bowl Stadium, to be exact.
Apparently you’re more worried about the “Marlins good in interleague” factor than the “Marlins have 4th best record in MLB” factor…?
by wentToARoyalsGameBeforeRR on May 16, 2008 6:38 PM EDT 0 recs
Remember what we did to Andrew Miller last year?
August 29, 2007
0.2 ip, 5 h, 5 r, 5 er, 2 bb, 1 k
That was his last start in the majors last year.
I probably disagree with you.
by NYRoyal on May 16, 2008 6:42 PM EDT 0 recs
Greinke
gets a few AB’s this weekend. That’s exciting.
by I need more Esteban on May 16, 2008 6:45 PM EDT 0 recs
last time i remember him hitting he gave up like 12 runs to the dbacks
TPJ...you're dead to me
by billybeingbilly on May 16, 2008 6:46 PM EDT 0 recs
pre... it was long ago...
I remember those games. I was in Colorado for some reason, and it was pretty difficult to do regular posting….
will’s memories
by royalsreview on
May 16, 2008 6:57 PM EDT
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so, i'll take away one of them and he only gave up 11
TPJ...you're dead to me
by billybeingbilly on May 16, 2008 6:49 PM EDT 0 recs
Anybody know why no DeJesus?
Is he hurt?
I probably disagree with you.
by NYRoyal on May 16, 2008 7:10 PM EDT 0 recs
Gathright is a very patient leadoff hitter
winning records follow good bullpens
by slayor on May 16, 2008 7:13 PM EDT 0 recs
missed the first AB...sarcasm or no?
TPJ...you're dead to me
by billybeingbilly on
May 16, 2008 7:14 PM EDT
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Maury Wills Didn't
Bunt this often.
I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.
by philofthenorth on
May 16, 2008 7:15 PM EDT
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Well, Miller still looks like garbage
Let’s get him guillen
winning records follow good bullpens
by slayor on May 16, 2008 7:14 PM EDT 0 recs
Tomko Mashes
His career line:
311 450 23 71 9 0 0 29 0 1 19 177 .158 .191 .178
I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.
by philofthenorth on May 16, 2008 7:15 PM EDT 0 recs
i hate pitchers hitting
TPJ...you're dead to me
by billybeingbilly on May 16, 2008 7:16 PM EDT 0 recs
Me too.. unless it's micah owings
winning records follow good bullpens
by slayor on
May 16, 2008 7:16 PM EDT
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so, is everyone that was trashing guillen the first month a fan now?
TPJ...you're dead to me
by billybeingbilly on May 16, 2008 7:16 PM EDT 0 recs
It was just a matter of time until he started hitting
winning records follow good bullpens
by slayor on
May 16, 2008 7:17 PM EDT
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if you listened to 99% of the people on this site, he was the worst signing and the worst player ever
TPJ...you're dead to me
by billybeingbilly on
May 16, 2008 7:17 PM EDT
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All I have to say is
that I can call Jose my boy without having to check and see if anyone’s about to call me on my hypocrisy!
Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.
by jonfmorse on
May 16, 2008 7:32 PM EDT
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Jo-Gui Is Hot
Of late, no?
I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.
by philofthenorth on May 16, 2008 7:17 PM EDT 0 recs
8 game streak...9 rbis in that span
TPJ...you're dead to me
by billybeingbilly on
May 16, 2008 7:18 PM EDT
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Now that we've given Bombko a lead to blow
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by slayor on May 16, 2008 7:18 PM EDT 0 recs
Hello, I Must
Be going; it’s nice out today. I’ll be listening.
I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.
by philofthenorth on May 16, 2008 7:18 PM EDT 0 recs
Very nice first inning... walk,double, 2 run single. That's how our offense is gonna have to execute to win
winning records follow good bullpens
by slayor on May 16, 2008 7:19 PM EDT 0 recs
apropos zilch:
was listening to an interview with aubrey huff a few days ago on espn news and in response to the last question of the interview, “what’s the most important statistic to you, as a hitter?”: he said, “RBI’s”. the interviewer (who, presumably is stat-friendly), basically porky pigged his way into the break, trying his hardest not to insult him. anyway, just thought that it was a pretty clear indication that Brian Bannister is still in the minority when it comes to statistical appreciation/application…
by billexgordler on May 16, 2008 7:22 PM EDT 0 recs
rbis make you money...fluky or not and thats what most players care about
TPJ...you're dead to me
by billybeingbilly on
May 16, 2008 7:23 PM EDT
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Good god, I'm watching the Indians at Reds game simultaneously
Great American Ballpark is a freakin’ bandbox. Place plays like a minor league stadium.
winning records follow good bullpens
by slayor on May 16, 2008 7:23 PM EDT 0 recs
that place sucks....i dont know what HOK was thinking with that one
TPJ...you're dead to me
by billybeingbilly on May 16, 2008 7:25 PM EDT 0 recs
I don't understand why MLB approved the dimensions.
It’s just too small. If I was a pitcher, there is no way in hell I would sign a contract to play there.
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by slayor on
May 16, 2008 7:26 PM EDT
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agreed.
i’ve been to all but the Washington Nationals new park and between Cincy and St. Louis, there isn’t a single original idea. HOK is generally fine, but I really think they stopped innovating somewhere along the line…
by billexgordler on
May 16, 2008 7:26 PM EDT
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busch and cincy are my two least favorite newish stadiums and ive been to pretty much all of em
TPJ...you're dead to me
by billybeingbilly on
May 16, 2008 7:27 PM EDT
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yeah.
they’re awful. every other new one (post-skydome, i’m talking) has a number of things going for it, but st. loo and cincy are just bland. it’s too bad, too, because you only get one shot per generation on these deals.
by billexgordler on
May 16, 2008 7:34 PM EDT
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oops....
thought you were talking the stadium in miami
by mikewormdog on
May 16, 2008 7:28 PM EDT
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Hey Buck, you get winters off...
ever hear of Natural Family Planning??
I kid, congratulations.
I have many leather bound books...
by juano on May 16, 2008 7:27 PM EDT 0 recs
maybe this explains his late season slump last year....
too busy making babies
TPJ...you're dead to me
by billybeingbilly on May 16, 2008 7:28 PM EDT 0 recs
We have to get rid of Tomko
and get someone with a better bat in there.
Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.
by jonfmorse on May 16, 2008 7:35 PM EDT 0 recs
There goes half the lead...
winning records follow good bullpens
by slayor on May 16, 2008 7:38 PM EDT 0 recs
Fastball down ze middle.
winning records follow good bullpens
by slayor on
May 16, 2008 7:38 PM EDT
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when the hell are we going to luck into a 30 hr hitter like uggla?
the closest thing i can think of is vlademil
TPJ...you're dead to me
by billybeingbilly on
May 16, 2008 7:40 PM EDT
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We had Ibanez but let him go
He had a 30 bomb year for Seattle, I think
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by slayor on
May 16, 2008 7:44 PM EDT
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Here comes the walk after the home run...
Required by all major league pitchers
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by slayor on May 16, 2008 7:39 PM EDT 0 recs
anyone else watch the games on mlb.tv?
if so, what’s your policy of checking the royalsreview thread in key situations? with the lag, i’m always able to figure out what happens before it actually happens by reading the threads…can you protect against it?
by billexgordler on May 16, 2008 7:39 PM EDT 0 recs
And now the wheels start to come off tomko
Fun
winning records follow good bullpens
by slayor on May 16, 2008 7:41 PM EDT 0 recs
That was an awesome no-IBB.
Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.
by jonfmorse on May 16, 2008 7:42 PM EDT 0 recs
billy catches fly balls better than gordo
TPJ...you're dead to me
by billybeingbilly on May 16, 2008 7:42 PM EDT 0 recs
Can tomko get the pitcher out?
winning records follow good bullpens
by slayor on May 16, 2008 7:43 PM EDT 0 recs
lets walk a 6'6 pitcher to load the bases...thatd be fun
TPJ...you're dead to me
by billybeingbilly on May 16, 2008 7:43 PM EDT 0 recs
Andrew Miller looks like he's
about 14.
Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.
by jonfmorse on May 16, 2008 7:44 PM EDT 0 recs
We just got bailed out byt the pitcher batting
Thank you National League
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by slayor on May 16, 2008 7:44 PM EDT 0 recs
Gotta love seeing that pitcher's spot come up in the lineup
Wonder if NL opponents will think the same about KC’s 8th and 9th slots.
Tomko has the ability to get the K!
by daveyork on
May 16, 2008 7:46 PM EDT
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Pitchers Hitting Pumps
My nads.
I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.
by philofthenorth on May 16, 2008 7:45 PM EDT 0 recs
Man, Phil, that's
a weird fetish.
Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.
by jonfmorse on
May 16, 2008 7:46 PM EDT
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I Think That
Was Judd Nelson in “The Breakfast Club”.
I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.
by philofthenorth on
May 16, 2008 7:47 PM EDT
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Mmmm, just-legal Ally Sheedy.
Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.
by jonfmorse on
May 16, 2008 7:49 PM EDT
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She's Legal Now

I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.


