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Game 29 Open Thread - Royals (12-16) at Indians (14-15)

Kansas City @ Cleveland


Let's try this again...

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OK. Back to baseball.

Our Royals look to claw their way out of last place (last place already?) this weekend in Cleveland. RR Fest hero Luke Hochevar (5.91 ERA) looks to build on a nice start against the Blue Jays, while the Tribe counters with C.C. Sabathia (7.87 ERA) who just looks corpulent.

If you don't mind, here's a snippet I posted last week, only to have it get lost in the site crash:

Shifting gears, as many of you know, I have some Cleveland ties, and lived there last summer (and will be back there in about a month). I'm not sure if every fanbase feels this way, but there is a definite meme in Cleveland that the Royals always give us trouble. I've heard it personally, heard it on the radio, seen it on Lets Go Tribe and on and on. Well, let's check the facts:

 

Cleveland's Record Against the Royals Since 2001:

2002: 9-10
2003: 6-13
2004: 11-8
2005: 13-6
2006: 10-8
2007: 11-7

Total Since 2001: 61-42

 

So nope, the Royals don't really give the Tribe any trouble. Other than those few years when the Indians are really bad and the Royals are ok.

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Let's hope

C.C. isn’t on his game again tonight…..

Oh no, Rain, we might be in for a crappy night.

by I need more Esteban on May 2, 2008 7:01 PM EDT reply reply   0 recs

I have a feeling

that how Hochevar pitches tonight has a causal relationship with the speed of John Bale’s recovery.

by Gopherballs on May 2, 2008 7:03 PM EDT reply reply   0 recs

+1

last shot before commerical looked dark and it was pouring. Damn, what am I going to do at work now?

by I need more Esteban on May 2, 2008 7:07 PM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Still expecting to play

there will be another update at the top of the hour.

Proud father of a budding Royals fan.

by Skirra on May 3, 2008 6:55 PM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

can i just say...

the last TWO times I have bitched about gordon not batting 3rd, the next day, he’s been batting third

by royalsreview on May 2, 2008 7:18 PM EDT reply reply   0 recs

Game Canceled.. See Ya Tomorrow

A lot of you wont like me... by I assure you my opinion will be voiced GO ROYALS!

by focs on May 2, 2008 8:03 PM EDT reply reply   0 recs

They just said on the TV broadcast that the game will be delayed

but they should get it in.

Proud father of a budding Royals fan.

by Skirra on May 3, 2008 6:42 PM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

(Set X Foils for Attack Position!)

Red 5 Standing By

I really don't know what to say... Did the post above this signature make sense? Probably not.

by RoyalsFanInMarinerTown on May 3, 2008 6:33 PM EDT reply reply   0 recs

Only 3 Lefties

But Gordon stays in the 3-hole.

D. DeJesus cf 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .354
M. Grudzielanek 2b 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .316
A. Gordon 3b 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .292
J. Guillen lf 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .176
B. Butler 1b 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .291
M. Teahen rf 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .269
M. Olivo dh 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .233
J. Buck c 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .225
T. Pena Jr. ss 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .152
Totals 0 0 0 0 0 0 0

Olivo gets to play…...kinda.

I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.

by philofthenorth on May 3, 2008 7:11 PM EDT reply reply   0 recs

He said "maybe they'll trade me."

He’ll be a cancer in the clubhouse any day now.

I probably disagree with you.

by NYRoyal on May 3, 2008 7:54 PM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

It Looks Like

They’ll be playing soon.
http://radar.weather.gov/ridge/Conus/centgrtlakes_loop.php

I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.

by philofthenorth on May 3, 2008 7:14 PM EDT reply reply   0 recs

I was waiting for you to come through with the weather update.

I almost asked where you were with the forecast.

Proud father of a budding Royals fan.

by Skirra on May 3, 2008 7:34 PM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

TPJ

He is the master of turning a 3-0 count into a strike-out.

Proud father of a budding Royals fan.

by Skirra on May 3, 2008 8:23 PM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

this is a good time in the semester

at least here at Iowa… one week of class to go, not stressful yet, etc.

by royalsreview on May 3, 2008 8:32 PM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

can we go to an all bunting offense?

lets make CC run around a little

"So whattya say, should we clean this place up?" - Tom Cruise

by DyeFan187 on May 3, 2008 8:33 PM EDT reply reply   0 recs

oh hey

an out on the basepaths? that never happens…

Accidentally not thedude925 anymore. I do hate this new name.

by wildthang on May 3, 2008 8:34 PM EDT reply reply   0 recs

and that is our offense in a nutshell

a fucking leadoff double and we cant score it.

pathetic

Accidentally not thedude925 anymore. I do hate this new name.

by wildthang on May 3, 2008 8:35 PM EDT reply reply   0 recs

Guillie Just Missed

A double; he gets around on the inside fastball well. Too bad about DDJ at home; it was close.

I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.

by philofthenorth on May 3, 2008 8:36 PM EDT reply reply   0 recs

should he have been sent?

I just have internet

"So whattya say, should we clean this place up?" - Tom Cruise

by DyeFan187 on May 3, 2008 8:38 PM EDT reply reply   0 recs

Yeah, He Was

There before the ball, but I don’t think he was able to reach the plate; good blockout by Martinez.

I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.

by philofthenorth on May 3, 2008 8:40 PM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

RoyalsReview

I was going to post this as a fanpost but since it is just you and me it can go here I guess.

I know this week has been hard on bloggers and you especially because of the ESPN/Grass Creek article. But I wanted to commend you for the environment you have created here. I know that some have called this their own little on line pub and I suppose that is somewhat accurate. I howoever, have a different view. I hale from a small Kansas farming town and this is like the small town cafe for me. It is the place where we meet and discuss the events that matter to our common interest, argue about the merits of changes, and hope for a better future. There are those here who are cranky or at least contrarians(sp?), those who provide insight to our future, those who can recall our history, and those who just show up to hang out and talk shop. This place is a reflection of all of those people , but most of all it is a reflection of you and your hard work. The reason we all come back is because you have created a comfortable place where ideas can grow and opinions are aired freely. Thank you for this.

I know a little sappy but it is true and we all appreciate your work, however unprofitable it may be.

Proud father of a budding Royals fan.

by Skirra on May 3, 2008 8:42 PM EDT reply reply   0 recs

thanks man

I appreciate it. The vibe here is great. I don’t know if it’s a midwestern thing or what, but it really is pretty cool.

by royalsreview on May 3, 2008 8:47 PM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Hooch Is Rocking

The Eastwood thing with that flat bill pulled down low. Billy actually mad the force unassisted at 1B; impressive.

I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.

by philofthenorth on May 3, 2008 8:42 PM EDT reply reply   0 recs

Diving into first not a good idea, generally.

Proud father of a budding Royals fan.

by Skirra on May 3, 2008 8:42 PM EDT reply reply   0 recs

He Was Safe

I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.

by philofthenorth on May 3, 2008 8:43 PM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

I HATE THE dive into first

"So whattya say, should we clean this place up?" - Tom Cruise

by DyeFan187 on May 3, 2008 8:44 PM EDT to parent up reply reply   1 recs

Hasn't It Been

Proven that it’s slower to dive?

I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.

by philofthenorth on May 3, 2008 8:48 PM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

3-2, Buck's Running

TPJ at the plate; it just doesn’t get any better.

I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.

by philofthenorth on May 3, 2008 8:47 PM EDT reply reply   0 recs

TPJ leading the pictches seen race, no?

Proud father of a budding Royals fan.

by Skirra on May 3, 2008 8:49 PM EDT reply reply   0 recs

Actually, The Team

Has done pretty well on that account; just my subjective impression.

I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.

by philofthenorth on May 3, 2008 8:51 PM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

They have done remarkably well, for them.

I was referring to royalsreview’s question about who would see more pitches Olivo or TPJ

Proud father of a budding Royals fan.

by Skirra on May 3, 2008 8:52 PM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

I think TPJ has seen more

so far

I wanna know what love is, I want you to show me

by LeoBloom on May 3, 2008 9:01 PM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

V-Mart Could Not

Havew reached that with a broomstick.

I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.

by philofthenorth on May 3, 2008 8:52 PM EDT reply reply   0 recs

Guillie The Dancing

Bear runs it down.

I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.

by philofthenorth on May 3, 2008 8:55 PM EDT reply reply   0 recs

Hochevar Short-Arms

A pitch every once in a while, and ball 4 was one.

I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.

by philofthenorth on May 3, 2008 8:59 PM EDT reply reply   0 recs

I know that one could say that power numbers have dropped (re Hafner)

because of no more steroids for hitters. But I wonder if some of it is that you have fewer pitchers who are roided up but have no clue where the ball is going? The type of guys who supplied a lot of the power because they were fringe players stuff wise, but got the call due to throwing 95+ on the juice.

Proud father of a budding Royals fan.

by Skirra on May 3, 2008 8:59 PM EDT reply reply   0 recs

it's really hard to say, there are a million factors

Hafner is decievng because he started his big league career pretty late, and he hasnt been around long, but is already declining

I wanna know what love is, I want you to show me

by LeoBloom on May 3, 2008 9:02 PM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

yea, who can say really… we know barely anything about how PEDs were actually used, or what they actually help, etc. especially re: pitchers…

by royalsreview on May 3, 2008 9:05 PM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

He Already Has

The grit; veteran presence is coming along nicely.

I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.

by philofthenorth on May 3, 2008 9:03 PM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Does he "hustle"

and play the game the “right” way. Otherwise I don’t want him on my team, contributions be damned.

Proud father of a budding Royals fan.

by Skirra on May 3, 2008 9:04 PM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Hochevar ERA Update: 4.97

by royalsreview on May 3, 2008 9:06 PM EDT reply reply   0 recs

damn… I gotta change locales… be back in a few innings

by royalsreview on May 3, 2008 9:08 PM EDT reply reply   0 recs

Hooch Was Not

Fooling Sizemore.

I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.

by philofthenorth on May 3, 2008 9:14 PM EDT reply reply   0 recs

He can walk anyone he wants if he continues to get

DPs and strikeouts to get out of the inning without damage.

Proud father of a budding Royals fan.

by Skirra on May 3, 2008 9:15 PM EDT reply reply   0 recs

Coming In To

Sizemore was not a good idea; something about discretion and valor?

I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.

by philofthenorth on May 3, 2008 9:17 PM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Has anyone invented

a fielding independent hitting statistic. Many times you will hear an announcer say he it is hitting the ball hard but right at people. I think it would be good to know if there is something a bit more refined than BABIP, perhaps using line drive % etc.

Proud father of a budding Royals fan.

by Skirra on May 3, 2008 9:20 PM EDT reply reply   0 recs

Olivo Will Go

Yard; you heard it here first.

I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.

by philofthenorth on May 3, 2008 9:21 PM EDT reply reply   0 recs

maybe he will get his pt then.

Proud father of a budding Royals fan.

by Skirra on May 3, 2008 9:21 PM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Missed It By

That much.

I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.

by philofthenorth on May 3, 2008 9:23 PM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

If Sabathia had fallen down there

we would have felt it in KC, hell phil may have felt it in Alaska.

Proud father of a budding Royals fan.

by Skirra on May 3, 2008 9:26 PM EDT reply reply   0 recs

3-2, 2 Out

Runners at 2B and 3B, TPJ on deck; you have to swing.

I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.

by philofthenorth on May 3, 2008 9:28 PM EDT reply reply   0 recs

I agree just swung a bit underneath it.

Proud father of a budding Royals fan.

by Skirra on May 3, 2008 9:29 PM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

i'm amazed that the game is actually on TV tonight

and now i’m enthralled by it ;)

Let’s see how things turn out. Let’s go Royals, yeah?

Boyfriend of the Year 2008: It's gonna be big!

by loyal2theroyals on May 3, 2008 9:29 PM EDT reply reply   0 recs

There Goes The

No-no.

I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.

by philofthenorth on May 3, 2008 9:31 PM EDT reply reply   0 recs