Game 29 Open Thread - Royals (12-16) at Indians (14-15)
Kansas City Royals @ Cleveland Indians
Let's try this again...
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OK. Back to baseball.
Our Royals look to claw their way out of last place (last place already?) this weekend in Cleveland. RR Fest hero Luke Hochevar (5.91 ERA) looks to build on a nice start against the Blue Jays, while the Tribe counters with C.C. Sabathia (7.87 ERA) who just looks corpulent.
If you don't mind, here's a snippet I posted last week, only to have it get lost in the site crash:
Shifting gears, as many of you know, I have some Cleveland ties, and lived there last summer (and will be back there in about a month). I'm not sure if every fanbase feels this way, but there is a definite meme in Cleveland that the Royals always give us trouble. I've heard it personally, heard it on the radio, seen it on Lets Go Tribe and on and on. Well, let's check the facts:
Cleveland's Record Against the Royals Since 2001:
2002: 9-102003: 6-132004: 11-82005: 13-62006: 10-82007: 11-7Total Since 2001: 61-42
So nope, the Royals don't really give the Tribe any trouble. Other than those few years when the Indians are really bad and the Royals are ok.
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my prediction for the game
royals lose 6-2
by Billybutlerformvp on
May 2, 2008 6:53 PM EDT
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Let's hope
C.C. isn’t on his game again tonight…..
Oh no, Rain, we might be in for a crappy night.
by I need more Esteban on
May 2, 2008 7:01 PM EDT
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I have a feeling
that how Hochevar pitches tonight has a causal relationship with the speed of John Bale’s recovery.
by Gopherballs on
May 2, 2008 7:03 PM EDT
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dont think this game is gonna happen
by royalsreview on
May 2, 2008 7:05 PM EDT
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+1
last shot before commerical looked dark and it was pouring. Damn, what am I going to do at work now?
by I need more Esteban on
May 2, 2008 7:07 PM EDT
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any more info on likelihood of playing?
by Royal Revival on
May 2, 2008 7:22 PM EDT
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Still expecting to play
there will be another update at the top of the hour.
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by Skirra on
May 3, 2008 6:55 PM EDT
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can i just say...
the last TWO times I have bitched about gordon not batting 3rd, the next day, he’s been batting third
by royalsreview on
May 2, 2008 7:18 PM EDT
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Game Canceled.. See Ya Tomorrow
A lot of you wont like me... by I assure you my opinion will be voiced GO ROYALS!
by focs on
May 2, 2008 8:03 PM EDT
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They just said on the TV broadcast that the game will be delayed
but they should get it in.
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by Skirra on
May 3, 2008 6:42 PM EDT
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(Set X Foils for Attack Position!)
Red 5 Standing By
I really don't know what to say... Did the post above this signature make sense? Probably not.
by RoyalsFanInMarinerTown on
May 3, 2008 6:33 PM EDT
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Only 3 Lefties
But Gordon stays in the 3-hole.
D. DeJesus cf 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .354
M. Grudzielanek 2b 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .316
A. Gordon 3b 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .292
J. Guillen lf 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .176
B. Butler 1b 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .291
M. Teahen rf 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .269
M. Olivo dh 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .233
J. Buck c 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .225
T. Pena Jr. ss 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .152
Totals 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Olivo gets to play…...kinda.
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by philofthenorth on
May 3, 2008 7:11 PM EDT
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He said "maybe they'll trade me."
He’ll be a cancer in the clubhouse any day now.
I probably disagree with you.
by NYRoyal on
May 3, 2008 7:54 PM EDT
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It Looks Like
They’ll be playing soon.
http://radar.weather.gov/ridge/Conus/centgrtlakes_loop.php
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by philofthenorth on
May 3, 2008 7:14 PM EDT
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I was waiting for you to come through with the weather update.
I almost asked where you were with the forecast.
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by Skirra on
May 3, 2008 7:34 PM EDT
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Who will see more pitches tonight? Olivo or TPJ?
by royalsreview on
May 3, 2008 8:20 PM EDT
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Did the rain scare everyone off?
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by Skirra on
May 3, 2008 8:27 PM EDT
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everyone's got rockin' saturday night plans...
not me though…
by royalsreview on
May 3, 2008 8:28 PM EDT
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Me neither just taking a break from finals studying.
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by Skirra on
May 3, 2008 8:29 PM EDT
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this is a good time in the semester
at least here at Iowa… one week of class to go, not stressful yet, etc.
by royalsreview on
May 3, 2008 8:32 PM EDT
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can we go to an all bunting offense?
lets make CC run around a little
"So whattya say, should we clean this place up?" - Tom Cruise
by DyeFan187 on
May 3, 2008 8:33 PM EDT
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oh hey
an out on the basepaths? that never happens…
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by wildthang on
May 3, 2008 8:34 PM EDT
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and that is our offense in a nutshell
a fucking leadoff double and we cant score it.
pathetic
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by wildthang on
May 3, 2008 8:35 PM EDT
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Guillie Just Missed
A double; he gets around on the inside fastball well. Too bad about DDJ at home; it was close.
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by philofthenorth on
May 3, 2008 8:36 PM EDT
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should he have been sent?
I just have internet
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by DyeFan187 on
May 3, 2008 8:38 PM EDT
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Yeah, He Was
There before the ball, but I don’t think he was able to reach the plate; good blockout by Martinez.
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by philofthenorth on
May 3, 2008 8:40 PM EDT
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RoyalsReview
I was going to post this as a fanpost but since it is just you and me it can go here I guess.
I know this week has been hard on bloggers and you especially because of the ESPN/Grass Creek article. But I wanted to commend you for the environment you have created here. I know that some have called this their own little on line pub and I suppose that is somewhat accurate. I howoever, have a different view. I hale from a small Kansas farming town and this is like the small town cafe for me. It is the place where we meet and discuss the events that matter to our common interest, argue about the merits of changes, and hope for a better future. There are those here who are cranky or at least contrarians(sp?), those who provide insight to our future, those who can recall our history, and those who just show up to hang out and talk shop. This place is a reflection of all of those people , but most of all it is a reflection of you and your hard work. The reason we all come back is because you have created a comfortable place where ideas can grow and opinions are aired freely. Thank you for this.
I know a little sappy but it is true and we all appreciate your work, however unprofitable it may be.
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by Skirra on
May 3, 2008 8:42 PM EDT
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thanks man
I appreciate it. The vibe here is great. I don’t know if it’s a midwestern thing or what, but it really is pretty cool.
by royalsreview on
May 3, 2008 8:47 PM EDT
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Hooch Is Rocking
The Eastwood thing with that flat bill pulled down low. Billy actually mad the force unassisted at 1B; impressive.
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by philofthenorth on
May 3, 2008 8:42 PM EDT
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Diving into first not a good idea, generally.
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by Skirra on
May 3, 2008 8:42 PM EDT
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He Was Safe
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by philofthenorth on
May 3, 2008 8:43 PM EDT
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Yeah but he probably could have made it easier to call by running.
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by Skirra on
May 3, 2008 8:44 PM EDT
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I HATE THE dive into first
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by DyeFan187 on
May 3, 2008 8:44 PM EDT
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Hasn't It Been
Proven that it’s slower to dive?
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by philofthenorth on
May 3, 2008 8:48 PM EDT
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3-2, Buck's Running
TPJ at the plate; it just doesn’t get any better.
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by philofthenorth on
May 3, 2008 8:47 PM EDT
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TPJ leading the pictches seen race, no?
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by Skirra on
May 3, 2008 8:49 PM EDT
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Actually, The Team
Has done pretty well on that account; just my subjective impression.
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by philofthenorth on
May 3, 2008 8:51 PM EDT
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They have done remarkably well, for them.
I was referring to royalsreview’s question about who would see more pitches Olivo or TPJ
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by Skirra on
May 3, 2008 8:52 PM EDT
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I think TPJ has seen more
so far
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by LeoBloom on
May 3, 2008 9:01 PM EDT
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V-Mart Could Not
Havew reached that with a broomstick.
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by philofthenorth on
May 3, 2008 8:52 PM EDT
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Guillie The Dancing
Bear runs it down.
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by philofthenorth on
May 3, 2008 8:55 PM EDT
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Hochevar Short-Arms
A pitch every once in a while, and ball 4 was one.
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by philofthenorth on
May 3, 2008 8:59 PM EDT
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I know that one could say that power numbers have dropped (re Hafner)
because of no more steroids for hitters. But I wonder if some of it is that you have fewer pitchers who are roided up but have no clue where the ball is going? The type of guys who supplied a lot of the power because they were fringe players stuff wise, but got the call due to throwing 95+ on the juice.
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by Skirra on
May 3, 2008 8:59 PM EDT
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it's really hard to say, there are a million factors
Hafner is decievng because he started his big league career pretty late, and he hasnt been around long, but is already declining
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by LeoBloom on
May 3, 2008 9:02 PM EDT
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yea, who can say really… we know barely anything about how PEDs were actually used, or what they actually help, etc. especially re: pitchers…
by royalsreview on
May 3, 2008 9:05 PM EDT
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Casey Blake will be a Royal by the end of this decade
I have no doubt
by royalsreview on
May 3, 2008 9:00 PM EDT
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don't rule out the Cards
TLR prolly loves this guy
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by LeoBloom on
May 3, 2008 9:02 PM EDT
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He Already Has
The grit; veteran presence is coming along nicely.
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by philofthenorth on
May 3, 2008 9:03 PM EDT
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Does he "hustle"
and play the game the “right” way. Otherwise I don’t want him on my team, contributions be damned.
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by Skirra on
May 3, 2008 9:04 PM EDT
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damn… I gotta change locales… be back in a few innings
by royalsreview on
May 3, 2008 9:08 PM EDT
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Hooch Was Not
Fooling Sizemore.
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by philofthenorth on
May 3, 2008 9:14 PM EDT
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He can walk anyone he wants if he continues to get
DPs and strikeouts to get out of the inning without damage.
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by Skirra on
May 3, 2008 9:15 PM EDT
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Coming In To
Sizemore was not a good idea; something about discretion and valor?
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by philofthenorth on
May 3, 2008 9:17 PM EDT
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Has anyone invented
a fielding independent hitting statistic. Many times you will hear an announcer say he it is hitting the ball hard but right at people. I think it would be good to know if there is something a bit more refined than BABIP, perhaps using line drive % etc.
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by Skirra on
May 3, 2008 9:20 PM EDT
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Olivo Will Go
Yard; you heard it here first.
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by philofthenorth on
May 3, 2008 9:21 PM EDT
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maybe he will get his pt then.
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by Skirra on
May 3, 2008 9:21 PM EDT
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Missed It By
That much.
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by philofthenorth on
May 3, 2008 9:23 PM EDT
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If Sabathia had fallen down there
we would have felt it in KC, hell phil may have felt it in Alaska.
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by Skirra on
May 3, 2008 9:26 PM EDT
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3-2, 2 Out
Runners at 2B and 3B, TPJ on deck; you have to swing.
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by philofthenorth on
May 3, 2008 9:28 PM EDT
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I agree just swung a bit underneath it.
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by Skirra on
May 3, 2008 9:29 PM EDT
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i'm amazed that the game is actually on TV tonight
and now i’m enthralled by it ;)
Let’s see how things turn out. Let’s go Royals, yeah?
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by loyal2theroyals on
May 3, 2008 9:29 PM EDT
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There Goes The
No-no.
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by philofthenorth on
May 3, 2008 9:31 PM EDT
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Loyal you must be bad luck tonight.
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by Skirra on
May 3, 2008 9:32 PM EDT
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V-Mart Is
A great hitter; he’ll be at 1B soon.
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by philofthenorth on
May 3, 2008 9:32 PM EDT
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Nicely Done, Hooch
Now the DP.
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by philofthenorth on
May 3, 2008 9:33 PM EDT
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All hell just broke loose on the nascar race that I hav on in the background (crashes are cool)
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by Skirra on
May 3, 2008 9:35 PM EDT
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We Just Had
One of our own here. 3-2 short-arm in the dirt, BB/WP run in .
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by philofthenorth on
May 3, 2008 9:38 PM EDT
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with or offense that is game over :(
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by Skirra on
May 3, 2008 9:39 PM EDT
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are you kidding skirra?
i’m ALWAYS bad luck.
fucking Royals, trying to hate on me.
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by loyal2theroyals on
May 3, 2008 9:36 PM EDT
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Nice how your comment concided with a wp that allows a run.
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by Skirra on
May 3, 2008 9:37 PM EDT
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The Mighty Casey
At the bat.
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by philofthenorth on
May 3, 2008 9:39 PM EDT
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I Can't Believe
Blake swung at that.
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by philofthenorth on
May 3, 2008 9:41 PM EDT
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Nice play by butts to get out of the inning.
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May 3, 2008 9:42 PM EDT
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Billy The Dancing
Bear comes through; disaster averted for now.
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by philofthenorth on
May 3, 2008 9:42 PM EDT
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Would like to see a bit more efficiency out of Hoch.
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by Skirra on
May 3, 2008 9:49 PM EDT
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How's That?
Hooch has not fooled Sizemore at all today.
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by philofthenorth on
May 3, 2008 9:51 PM EDT
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Who Had The
Most HR’s for KC in the 90’s?
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May 3, 2008 9:50 PM EDT
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I Never Would
Have thought of him, but it makes sense.
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by philofthenorth on
May 3, 2008 9:57 PM EDT
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what is the answer?
it might be someone like Gaetti…
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May 3, 2008 9:58 PM EDT
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dye only had 39 HRs with the royals in the 90s
i guess his 33 in 2000 wouldnt count
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May 3, 2008 9:59 PM EDT
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G-man blows by that...
as does dean palmer
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May 3, 2008 10:01 PM EDT
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the royals just had so much roster movement in the 1990s
yu have random appearances by guys… then they move on
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May 3, 2008 10:02 PM EDT
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We're Only 4
Errors from tying it up.
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by philofthenorth on
May 3, 2008 9:56 PM EDT
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Really though, Hochevar is pitching ok tonight.
He needs to cut down on the walks, but this performance is encouraging to me. If he can do this consistently, and Meche can improve, we’ll have a pretty awesome 1-4 rotation.
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May 3, 2008 9:57 PM EDT
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Agreed
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May 3, 2008 10:01 PM EDT
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Why Does A
2-out single by Butler not thrill me?
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by philofthenorth on
May 3, 2008 10:01 PM EDT
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Now would be a good time for that Olivo HR
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May 3, 2008 10:04 PM EDT
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We Muat Believo
In Olivo.
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May 3, 2008 10:04 PM EDT
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nevermind
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My Very Word
That was my next post. Muat is my neologism of the day.
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by philofthenorth on
May 3, 2008 10:06 PM EDT
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Uno, Dos, Tres
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May 3, 2008 10:06 PM EDT
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This team is a joke
5 games under, 12-17. One of the worst in baseball…
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May 3, 2008 10:07 PM EDT
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I would say that one component of this team is a joke.
The pitching has been good enough to win games, but gets no consistent help from the offense.
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May 3, 2008 10:09 PM EDT
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This offense is absof'inglutely terrible
It’s beyond bad, it has to be the worst in baseball outside of the Giants. I would rather have the Twins collection of nobodies at this point. So far GMDM has shown me NOTHING at all in terms of pointing together an offense. He looks clueless.
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May 3, 2008 10:13 PM EDT
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Hooch Is Pitching
Like he wants Red Lobster.
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May 3, 2008 10:09 PM EDT
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This is the hidden problem with BA offense.
Cleveland has two runs on three hits because they got walks and got a homer – power and patience. We have no runs on six hits because most of the hits are singles and the players before or after those hits struck out or hit into double plays.
The real problem is, I’m not sure that GM Moore realizes the significance of institutional valuing of power and patience over BA. If he does not get that, our team is not going to win, even if he has the correct pitching philosophies.
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May 3, 2008 10:10 PM EDT
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Clearly BA should never be discussed in player deveopment/acuisition meetings
held by the baseball operations guys.
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May 3, 2008 10:12 PM EDT
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I'm more worried about about a quote I read a while back . . .
but I;m not sure where. It was comparing Billy Beane, who has an institutional rule that propects must average so many walks before they are allowed to progress, to GMDM who said his philosophy was to let players swing, find “what pitches they can’t hit” and then learn to lay off those pitches and take walks. The problem I see reflected in Billy Butler and Alex Gordon is that in confident players, this kind of philosophy leads to them swinging at way too much, and getting singles instead of waiting for a pitch to drive. I am afraid GMDM’s hitter development philosophy will prevent us from ever developing patient power hitters.
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May 3, 2008 10:17 PM EDT
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What's really frustrating is that GMDM
Is clearly awesome at developing and identifying pitching talent, more so than any other recent GM. And it really sucks that we finally get a GM that can give us general competence and good pitching, and he is on the wrong side of the SLG-OBP/BA development philosophy. About all I can hope for is the Royals get good-hitting Free Agents, but that is hard to do in KC.
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May 3, 2008 10:22 PM EDT
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I just worry
that instead we will waste another two years trying to fix the problem by having more speed
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May 3, 2008 10:12 PM EDT
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Nice Pitch Sequence
To Jhonny.
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6 k's in 6 innings is pretty sexy
Too bad he walked 4. Whatever, 2 runs in six innings is a fantastic effort from your 5th starter against perhaps the best team in the division. Oh, wait – we can’t score. Doesn’t matter anyway.
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Hafner Spoiled A
Great 0-2 pitch, but the next one was just as good. I like what I see.
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May 3, 2008 10:15 PM EDT
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Can we scor ethis runner?
Million dollar question
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It Might Take
A HR to do it.
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Hey, TPJ Can
Bunt!
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DDJ Hacking, But
It works. That pitch was in his eyes.
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May 3, 2008 10:21 PM EDT
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Carsten May Not
Survive this.
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May 3, 2008 10:22 PM EDT
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DDJ is a stud
Must score at least one more.
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It's on Gordon...no pressure
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by slayor on
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OK, That Made
Sense; I’m serious.
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by philofthenorth on
May 3, 2008 10:23 PM EDT
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Vaudeville Lives In
RF here in Cleveland.
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by philofthenorth on
May 3, 2008 10:26 PM EDT
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Gordon is clutch
Let’s go for the kill
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by slayor on
May 3, 2008 10:26 PM EDT
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10 hits, 2 runs
Epic
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by slayor on
May 3, 2008 10:26 PM EDT
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You ninja'd me.
I was going to make the same point – this is slap-happy baseball at its best.
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May 3, 2008 10:27 PM EDT
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it's playing the game "the right way"
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May 3, 2008 10:28 PM EDT
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It's "the Royals way"
at least in the last few years. How many times have we made this complain on this site for the past years?
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May 3, 2008 10:30 PM EDT
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I don't care how scrilegious it is - I want a Red Sox offense circa 2004 . . .
The kind where every guy takes a ton of pitches, and practically anyone can hit a home run.
The “right way” can take a hike.
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May 3, 2008 10:31 PM EDT
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Hot Dog!
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by philofthenorth on
May 3, 2008 10:29 PM EDT
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no worries, guillen is up
no worries at all
by royalsreview on
May 3, 2008 10:29 PM EDT
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Ughhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
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by slayor on
May 3, 2008 10:29 PM EDT
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has hillman tried a stupid hit and run recently?
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You know, he didn't have to do much at all
And he couldn’t even do that.
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by slayor on
May 3, 2008 10:30 PM EDT
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This is the department of clutch hitting, phoning Billy Butler
Coming into work today?
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by slayor on
May 3, 2008 10:32 PM EDT
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Double, single, single, single, single
Including a bunt single, and a sac bunt. Some old Japanese dude would be proud. 3 run home run plz?
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by slayor on
May 3, 2008 10:34 PM EDT
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Hot Dog Man
Doesn’t miss many bats.
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by philofthenorth on
May 3, 2008 10:34 PM EDT
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Perez is pretty nasty though
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by slayor on
May 3, 2008 10:36 PM EDT
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It would be really funny if . . .
Teahen got a single or a walk here, and Olivo made the last out. We would have batted all the way around, and scored only 3 runs – the exact minimum for batting around.
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May 3, 2008 10:36 PM EDT
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Teahen Should Bunt
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by philofthenorth on
May 3, 2008 10:37 PM EDT
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What is this?
A true middle of the order?
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May 3, 2008 10:37 PM EDT
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Well, Except For
Guillie.
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by philofthenorth on
May 3, 2008 10:41 PM EDT
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Yessssssss. Insurance runs.
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by slayor on
May 3, 2008 10:37 PM EDT
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Are We Allowed
To do that?
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by philofthenorth on
May 3, 2008 10:39 PM EDT
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Wow, how did we only score 4 runs there?
Time for the bullpen to be good.
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by slayor on
May 3, 2008 10:41 PM EDT
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looks like I woke up just in time
Too bad I gotta go to work.
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May 3, 2008 10:42 PM EDT
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love those singles
thank god for Grudz’s totally pointless bunt too
i’m sure we’ll hear all about how critical that was
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May 3, 2008 10:45 PM EDT
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I didn't really mind the bunt
Gordon has hit into a lot of DP’s this year / K’d a lot, and we couldn’t afford to not score there. Plus the sinkhole that is Jose Guillen is hitting behind him, and sure enough he couldn’t even score the runner from third.
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May 3, 2008 10:46 PM EDT
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Let it be aknowledged . . .
Hillman did the right thing pulling Hochevar here, both in terms of pitch counts and game situation.
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May 3, 2008 10:46 PM EDT
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Smooth Mahay . . .
walk the #9 hitter right in front of Sizemore.
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May 3, 2008 10:50 PM EDT
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i am dying for a two inning Soria save tonight
who is with me?
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May 3, 2008 10:51 PM EDT
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I wouldn't be opposed as long as he can pitch tomorrow night also
On the otherhand, Ramon Ramirez has been pure filth up until this point also.
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May 3, 2008 10:53 PM EDT
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I'm with you
Sidenote: I’m a little lost on rules for winning pitchers. If we hold on, Hooch is still in line for the win, right?
And don’t worry, I threw practically every anti-jinx into this post short of sacrificing a goat in a Sabathia jersey…
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May 3, 2008 10:53 PM EDT
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hoch is in line
but i’m also terrible at that stuff
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May 3, 2008 10:54 PM EDT
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Hear, Hear!
Mahay missed a pitch to Sizemore by 6 feet at least. El Guapo needs the work.
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by philofthenorth on
May 3, 2008 10:54 PM EDT
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This team sure looks a lot better when the bottom of the lineup gets on base
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May 3, 2008 10:55 PM EDT
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Anybody else notice Justin Verlander is now 1-5?
I’ve watched all his starts this year, and there is definitely something different about him. He’s obviously very talented, but it looks like the beginners luck has worn off to a certain extent.
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by slayor on
May 3, 2008 10:57 PM EDT
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TPJ At The
Plate is a wonder.
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by philofthenorth on
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At times I wonder if he has a bat in his hand while swinging
then he grounds one back to the pitcher
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by slayor on
May 3, 2008 10:58 PM EDT
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So does this mean Nunez has officially lost the set up job to Ramirez?
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For the time being, I'd say yes.
Ramirez is more likely to get the K, I think, so less likely to let the batter put the ball in play, and I’d almost prefer stretching Nunez out to a middle relief, two-inning kind of guy.
But I’m against having set roles for relief pitchers anyway. I’d rather keep it flexible, aside from the closer, and then only grudgingly.
by RoyalsFanInBillings on
May 3, 2008 11:02 PM EDT
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i love ramirez, but i dont agree
oh well
we gotta get 6 outs no matter what
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May 3, 2008 11:01 PM EDT
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Tying run to da plate
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by slayor on
May 3, 2008 11:01 PM EDT
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Rami Was Screwed
On that one.
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by philofthenorth on
May 3, 2008 11:02 PM EDT
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When can we start calling him Ram Ram
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May 3, 2008 11:02 PM EDT
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Fantasy baseball be damned.
I want to to V-Mart hit into a DP right now.
by RoyalsFanInBillings on
May 3, 2008 11:03 PM EDT
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Ask and ye shall receive . . . courtesy of our kick-ass bullpen.
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May 3, 2008 11:04 PM EDT
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As long as the Royals are in such a generous mood on my requests...
I’d like one more insurance run this inning, and a perfect ninth from Soria for the save.
Is that being greedy?
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May 3, 2008 11:05 PM EDT
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Yes on the first, no on the second.
The Royals scored 4 runs already . . . now you want more? How ungrateful.
by Eppenweb on
May 3, 2008 11:06 PM EDT
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lost tv
fsn just switched over to some poker game.
by kyyrewyyoae on
May 3, 2008 11:03 PM EDT
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Ramon Ramirez just got 3 outs on 6 pitches
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May 3, 2008 11:03 PM EDT
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Makes sense
cause nothing is more exciting then watching someone else play cards
by RoyalsFanInBillings on
May 3, 2008 11:04 PM EDT
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ITS OFFICIAL, I FREAKIN' HATE FSN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WENT TO POKER IN KC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Dos, Tres
Inning over. I’m beginning to believe in Rami.
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by philofthenorth on
May 3, 2008 11:04 PM EDT
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Set up man and Closer
Ram Ram and Walk Sore…there’s a joke in there somewhere.
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by juano on
May 3, 2008 11:05 PM EDT
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I Have My
Best people on it.
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by philofthenorth on
May 3, 2008 11:09 PM EDT
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Man, we have 5 bullpen guys I have a ton of confidence in:
Soria
Nunez
Ramirez
Gobble
Mahay
I mean, we need some long relief (bale anyone?) but when our starting pitching goes at least 6 innings we really don’t need anyone else.
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In other words: we should totally go with an 11-pitcher roster.
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If We Can
Find a dependable 5th starter.
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by philofthenorth on
May 3, 2008 11:10 PM EDT
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Point. We'll see if Tomko can fill the bill.
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If not Davies may fit the bill starting in june/july.
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May 3, 2008 11:12 PM EDT
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Of course, it doesn't matter what our pitchers do
if we can’t score runs…which makes today’s game (thus far) so sweet. Run production + solid starting pitching + outstanding relief work = happiness.
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No more runs tonight guys
It’s up to the man crush of Royals nation, Joakim Soria to deliver us the most holy of holy wins… The defeat of CC Sabathia.
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by slayor on
May 3, 2008 11:09 PM EDT
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We clearly shot our wad offensively. The last two innings took like a minute combined.
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These games are a whole lot of foreplay, and if we get lucky some climax
But we aren’t getting lucky often enough
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by slayor on
May 3, 2008 11:10 PM EDT
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That curve is nasty.
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by Skirra on
May 3, 2008 11:13 PM EDT
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That curveball is ridiculous
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That Is Unfair
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by philofthenorth on
May 3, 2008 11:14 PM EDT
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Jesus, they stood no chance
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Tell me Joakim Soria isn't one of the top 5 relievers in the AL
And and I laugh in your face
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by slayor on
May 3, 2008 11:15 PM EDT
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His curve may be the best breaking ball in baseball.
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How Is He
So different from every other pitcher with a similar skill set? I see him miss badly at times, but it’s never a fat pitch. Maybe that’s just luck. Mostly, he throws the ball where he wants to, and that will suffice most of the time.
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He hides the ball well.
Every report I have seen says that hitters don’t pick the ball up until it is on top of them. Plus it is hard for most guys to throw the curve when they are behind in the count but he locates it better than most.
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May 3, 2008 11:21 PM EDT
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It's the little things SOria does
Hides the ball well, and it cuts – when you hide the ball, they see the ball for a shorter amount of time, which makes it look like you throw harder. So when he was throwing 92 tonight, he was getting swings and misses like he was throwing 96. Add in the cut, and suddenly he’s a lot more effective against lefties.
His slider has a lot of horizontal tilt, which is rare from a righty and his changeup arm action is superb. Mix in a curveball at 2 different speeds (both with a lot of late and large vertical action), superb command and you have Joakim Soria….
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May 3, 2008 11:24 PM EDT
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In other news, we are tied for last with Detroit.
And, by the way, the AL Central sucks. We have one team above .500, the Twins, and they are only a half game above .500. And we might have the best pitching in the division. So hey, we might have a shot . . . and monkeys might fly out of my butt.
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We are an impact bat away from first place.
2 games back, and the other teams have flaws that would be fatal in other divisions. Lets’ just hope that if we are buyers at the deadline that we don’t try a Juan Gone type experiment.
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May 3, 2008 11:28 PM EDT
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Except we have our own flaw
Our terrible offense, and that flaw has been fatal in our OWN division…
Wait, we just won…cut out the pessimistic outlook right now, mister!
I agree, if we’re still in the hunt (maybe within 5-7 games of a wildcard spot) at the trading deadline, it would be nice to pick up some pop for the middle of the order, but I’m not sure we have enough to offer. There’s so much young talent that I don’t want to see us lose. Our biggest bargaining chip at this point is probably Grudz and German, and I don’t see a way for us to flip either (or both) of them for an impact bat for this year.
by RoyalsFanInBillings on
May 3, 2008 11:35 PM EDT
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It would have to be a rental type guy like Burrell.
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Maybe our offense will be better in the rest of the season than it was in April
There is a possibility that what happens in one month doesn’t determine how the team will be for the rest of the season.
I probably disagree with you.
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NYRoyal many may disagree tih you
but as I am on here more and more I am finding that you are the voice of reason, or at least say what I am thinking more often than pretty much everyone else.
I think that we will get better offensively plus Hillman stated today that if Pena doesn’t start hitting w/in the next month he will be sitting.
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The two extremes are almost always wrong
The “we’re great, playoffs here we come” people are wrong. There are few of them and they come out of the woodwork everytime the Royals win a few games in a row. The “we suck, the offense is and always will be horrible, the pitching staff is a house of cards and Moore has no idea what he’s doing” people are wrong. They have knee-jerk overreactions to anything even slightly negative that happen. In fact, they sometimes have negative overreactions to good things that happen. “How could we only have scored 4 runs that inning?” Knee-jerk negative overreactions are very, very common here and among the Royals fan base. “We’ve been bad for a long time, so I have a right to expect the worst!” I guess that’s true, but it is a poor excuse for half-assed and inaccurate analysis. I do my best to accurately analyze this team. There’s good and there’s bad. Right now, there’s more good than bad in the pitching staff. Right now, there’s more bad than good in the lineup. But it is a 6-month season. So far, we’ve played 1 month. Some of the good things will turn bad and some of the bad things will turn good. Assuming the worst and always focusing on the negative is an odd choice for a fan to make. But it is a common one.
I probably disagree with you.
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Looking forward if we are 5-7 games out in the wildcard hunt
we may be in first place by an equal number of games projecting out how good the AL east and west may be.
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May 3, 2008 11:52 PM EDT
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I STOPPED WATCHING AN NOW WE WON
WHERE IS THE LOVE IN THIS?????????????
I’ll have the BOD up sometime tomorrow. I’m not in the right frame of mind to HTML.
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Never Stop Watching
Nothing good can come of it.
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