Game 56 Open Thread - Indians (25-29) at Royals (21-34)
by Freneau on May 31, 2008 6:31 PM EDT
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PrintCleveland Indians at Kansas City Royals, May 31, 2008 7:10 PM EDT
That was essentially your typical Gil Meche night of work, wasn't it? The maddening inability to have easy innings, to finish hitters, to avoid not hitting 100 pitches in the 5th inning, etc. And then Hillman sent in Tomko with a one-run lead, and the game was over. I still haven't figured out what the hell the Royals are trying to do with Mahay, but between last night and the Peralta disaster, it's clear that Hillman doesn't know either.
Illustrious former Brave Hiram Kyle Davies (6.24 career ERA) makes his first Major League start of the season tonight, as the Royals look to live the impossible dream, and win a game. Longtime readers of this site will know I've never really been excited about Davies, nor much of a beliver in him. Nevertheless, it took exposure to Jorge de la Rosa and Brett Tomko to make me appreciate Davies, the latter especially. We know what Tomko is, and while he's likely a better option than Southern Strong Davies, at least there's still some residual promise associated with Davies, and a 1% chance that he finally "gets it" and becomes useful. So... all hail his reappreance tonight. And just in time for the arrival of Brayan Pena too. Just when the whole ex-Brave thing was getting semi-not-true too! (For more on this, check the discussion on Pena that broke out yesterday. For the record, I still don't think Olivo is much of an option at starting catcher, much less full time DH. But when you have no good hitters, you get in situations like this. In this way the Royals are now typical of most AL teams: fielding a wholly unsatisfactory DH. Cool!)
The Indians counter with C.C. Sabathia (3-6, 4.74 ERA) who has faced the Royals 6,000 times in his career.
Ironically, I'm actually in Cleveland now...
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And he wouldn't play...
nearly as horrible defense as actual starter Esteban German
Yes...
DM wants defense up the middle to help our young SP, Kyle Davies…oh wait a sec…
Bizarre...
Why did we call up Aviles then. I would think if your not going to play TPJ you’d go will Callaspo or Aviles before German.
It's not...
The franchise’s first bizarre move…nor will it be the last
Brayan Pena designated for assignment.
Huh? I don’t understand that one… Maybe they thought they had a trade in the works that fell through?
oh and the indians have Grady DH'ing, guess that last play hurt
1. D. DeJesus, RF
2. M. Grudzielanek, 2B
3. A. Gordon, 3B
4. J. Guillen, LF
5. M. Olivo, DH
6. M. Teahen, 1B
7. J. Buck, C
8. E. German, SS
9. J. Gathright, CF
Without TPJ and Gload...
we’re sunk. They both play plus plus defense. Defense wins championships. You give me 9 Gload or TPJ’s and I’ll show you a championship team.
Wrong..
Their grit is what is so valauble
+D And No
Hit is the ultimate grit.
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by philofthenorth on May 31, 2008 7:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Why German at SS now instead of 25 games ago?
A curious move with Aviles on board. German has been with KC all year and only now is getting on the field at different positions.
Yeah. Weird.
They wait until after we call up another SS to give him his first start at SS.
The one position switch I have been waiting for is seeing Teahen at 3B
Don’t think Teahen has played an inning of 3B since Gordon arrived. They have played German there. As I remember, Teahen was too bad a fielder.
I could be wrong
but I didn’t think Teahen was bad really. Gordon just projected to be a lot better so they made the switch. I might be remembering wrong, though.
by I need more Esteban on May 31, 2008 7:23 PM EDT up reply actions
That's The Only
One I saw in the theater. I was playing in Homer in February; not much else to do.
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by philofthenorth on May 31, 2008 7:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Davies...
Has the best ERA in the AL for starters…And people doubted him….
Wow, Davies actually looks good so far.
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Also, I'm very pleased we called up Aviles to let him rot on the bench
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Typical although I wouldn't call 2 games on the bench "rotting"
Ask Justin Huber or Craig Brazell about opportunities and the Royals. Not that KC could use an offensive spark from an unexpected source.
Hillman Has Brazell
Stashed in Japan, waiting for him to blow up.
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by philofthenorth on May 31, 2008 7:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Not so good
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2 out 4 pitch walk to a guy who doesn't have a hit, weak base hit
Here we go again
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He's going to have to throw a shut out if he wants to win
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Except When He
Works the count.
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by philofthenorth on May 31, 2008 7:40 PM EDT up reply actions
CC has thrown 17 pitches through 2....gonna be a LONG short night
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Shit...
German playing SS. TPJ still sucks worse though.
Sigh we just cannot catch a break
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The Germie At
SS experiment pays dividends…...for the Tribe.
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I'd like to see some numbers on how many innings of less than 10 pitches KC's offense has
It seems like so many especially against pitcher who are control types – see Kevin Slowey for latest example. Plate discipline sounds good but very few of Royals do it. How many walk over last games?
I'm going to the
game tomorrow. It’s build a bear otter give away day. I can’t wait.
Now the four pitch walk... yep I am pretty sure we've seen this davies before
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During the losing streak, the ability to stop the bleeding just hasn't been there
A dangerous time for the game.
Lol @ Peralta... 11 HR 19 RBI. How?
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Davies Missed By
3 feet to Peralta, got the whiff on high heat accidentally.
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WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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Choo will hit a grand slam...
It would be so Royals-esque
Well it's
easy to see that Davies doesn’t quite have his control issues taken care of yet.
by I need more Esteban on May 31, 2008 7:55 PM EDT reply actions
Shocking, I know
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I think he should
talk with Meche about pitch count and efficiency.
Success is counted sweetest by those who ne'er succeed. - Emily Dickinson
Crap, beat me to it
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So...
I heard the Royals are having a TPJ Booblehead giveaway…No I’m not kidding
I heard they're having a TPJ bat giveaway
Not like he uses them, so hey….
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haha. when?
i’m buying my plane ticket now
by blue bandwagon on May 31, 2008 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Not sure...
They were talking about the Mayberry booblehead, and said that later in the season they’re doing a TPJ and a Gordon booblehead giveaway.
I saw that.
Hopefully TPJ will be DFA’d by then. That would be akward.
I was thinking...
The exact same thing lol
TPJ
will be fresh off his all-star appearance.
by blue bandwagon on May 31, 2008 8:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Kyle Davies is definitely a product of the Gil Meche School of Pitching
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Wow!!!
Look who muscled up. From goat to hero!
DDJ Goes DDDeep!
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by philofthenorth on May 31, 2008 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Wow last pitcher I'd expect david to take yard
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He Is Starting
To develop some nice grit.
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by philofthenorth on May 31, 2008 8:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Take The Rest
Of the night off, baby.
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by philofthenorth on May 31, 2008 8:05 PM EDT up reply actions
We Need Blake
For the bad beard if nothing else.
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Anything that doesn't give up 6 runs / 9 innings > Tomko
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Good point!!!
For some reason people keep insisting that he’s not only a great #5 starter but also a good #4 starter as well.
You speak too soon
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Gutierrez Was Safe
Bad throw or not.
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by philofthenorth on May 31, 2008 8:12 PM EDT up reply actions
These 5 inning starts are just killing our bullpen
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Bullpens are overrated...
It’s not like winning records follow good bullpens.
don't mock me!
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Too bad Gathright can't hit...
I really do enjoy watching him play.
He's A Project
He’ll learn to hit by the time he’s 35.
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by philofthenorth on May 31, 2008 8:16 PM EDT up reply actions
He'll Be Like
Lenny Dykstra.
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by philofthenorth on May 31, 2008 8:18 PM EDT up reply actions
I heard it tastes like chocolate
Dipped in chocolate
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???
“Win”...Are you speaking some foreign language?
Wins Are Vestigal
Like an appendix.
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by philofthenorth on May 31, 2008 8:24 PM EDT up reply actions
My 800K Feed
Is working acceptably today!!!!
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Davies just cannot get a 123 inning to save his life
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TPJ Could Have
Made coffee while he made that play.
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That ball was smoked, though
It’s not like it was a routine play.
by I need more Esteban on May 31, 2008 8:29 PM EDT reply actions
I don't think Esty is the answer at short
sad to say…
Success is counted sweetest by those who ne'er succeed. - Emily Dickinson
professional third base play there
Success is counted sweetest by those who ne'er succeed. - Emily Dickinson
I guess you have to be happy iwth Davies tonight
5 innings, 1 run facing one of the hottest pitchers in baseball. I guess considering he leaves the game with the score tied, he did about all you could ask.
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Another pretty good play by Este
I know I might eat it later, but I don’t see how he is really that bad. There is a lot of game left, though, I guess.
by I need more Esteban on May 31, 2008 8:34 PM EDT reply actions
We're setting up the bunt!
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Teahen...
should have gone home on that one
Be clutch Esty, be clutch
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in a losing streak like this...
the only question that comes to mind is: how we gonna screw this up?
Yep definitely not going to score here
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I wonder if the third base coach
is too concerned about the losing streak. the throw went to second and with Teabag’s
base running ability, he should have been able to score. but, it is a non issue as we are going to have a three run rally killing homer here.
Success is counted sweetest by those who ne'er succeed. - Emily Dickinson
Thank God We
Have Gator up here instead of TPJ.
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4 inning save!
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Awesome...
How are we going to blow this one?
2 OUT RBI BASE HIT OMG
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Choo...
will hit the go-ahead G-Slam in the 9th off Peralta
Yimmy Yobble should be available also
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No, He's Married
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by philofthenorth on May 31, 2008 8:51 PM EDT up reply actions
where is RR when his boy is brought in?
Success is counted sweetest by those who ne'er succeed. - Emily Dickinson
is he there mocking the Tribe fans?
Success is counted sweetest by those who ne'er succeed. - Emily Dickinson
Yes
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by philofthenorth on May 31, 2008 8:54 PM EDT up reply actions
If Mahay stays this efficient maybe we can get 2 from him
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Esty - gold glover at SS!
it does make me nervous having him at SS and Teahan at 1B
Success is counted sweetest by those who ne'er succeed. - Emily Dickinson
after Este's next AB, Pena will probably replace him
by I need more Esteban on May 31, 2008 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Germie Will Go
To 2B, Gritz to 3B, A-Gor to 1B, Teahie to CF, Gator to RF, DDJ to LF, Guillen rests…...the baby.
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by philofthenorth on May 31, 2008 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Olivo to right
Gload behind the plate
TPJ DH
Success is counted sweetest by those who ne'er succeed. - Emily Dickinson
professional grown up hitter there
Success is counted sweetest by those who ne'er succeed. - Emily Dickinson
is Sabbathia filling out his pants more now
or is he wearing better tailored uniforms?
Success is counted sweetest by those who ne'er succeed. - Emily Dickinson
He Fears Me
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by philofthenorth on May 31, 2008 9:01 PM EDT up reply actions
is that what Grimace is calling himself now?
Success is counted sweetest by those who ne'er succeed. - Emily Dickinson
TONY PENA TIME
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Anyone Else Notice
A calm in the storm of hit-and-runs and stolen base attempts recently? Even the bunts are fewer and farther between.
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hopefully...
this will be the beginning of his role – late inning defensive replacement
Leadoff walk, late inning, close game = GOOD THINGS
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I'm glad you share my enthusiasm
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Is it just me
or does KC continually do things that are so fundamentally poor like walk the leadoff batter? I shuttered when I heard Peralta was up in the pen. Put the leadoff hitter on for Sizemore and the rest of the lineup. YUCK
I knew it...
Peralta is coming in…Let’s say he gives up 2 hits…Bases are loaded with Choo on…Go-Ahead G-Slam…My prediction was golden
I know right, this just can't end well
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Because We Can
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by philofthenorth on May 31, 2008 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions
You have to use your best reliever in this situation donchaknow
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I Saw John
Mayberry play in person. Envy me.
I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.
Big John was my first favorite Royal
When he got traded to the Blue Jays, I was stunned. Found out later he was out drinking with his friends during the playoffs but kids back in those days didn’t know that stuff. His son isn’t too bad of a ballplayer with Rangers org.
Hillman falls into the trap of RH/RH
even though the right hander is Peralta and Mahay can get RHer out. This situation has bad news written all over it. Could we bring in Soria now – it is no longer a 4 inning save?
Jamey Carroll...
Potential grit replacement for Grudz?
From 0-2 to 3-2..... god I love this
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Wow...
Ryan Lefevre’s rehashing some old wounds…He’s talking about Chip Ambres and the 19 game losing streak
unf&$(&king believable
un
fking
believable
get peralta out NOW
how the $$( do you walk JAMEY CARROLL AFTER BEING AHEAD 0-2
WHAT THE USHGAUSHGA
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Bloop single
right here, then Grand Slam by Choo…just as I predicted
My Day, Nay,
My whole world is now complete.
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by philofthenorth on May 31, 2008 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions
The Deadly Warning
Track power.
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by philofthenorth on May 31, 2008 9:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Don't Let Peralta
Get cold.
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by philofthenorth on May 31, 2008 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions
We just can't wait to get this game over with
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Holy shit Soria for the two inning save
~!!!!
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Not a thrilling start
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Is This The
Beginning of stretching Soria?
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I think it's the we've lost 2938283 games in a row and have to do everything possible to win
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I love bringing Soria out
time to end this!
by I need more Esteban on May 31, 2008 9:33 PM EDT reply actions
Jesus fucking chrrist
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Cananything more go wrong
OHmy god
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Soria Is Pressing
Fastball is going high.
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should be out of this inning
Success is counted sweetest by those who ne'er succeed. - Emily Dickinson
I don't care if he lost it in the sky...
that’s not an earned run for soria.
Holyyyyyyyyyyy shit
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Joakim soria has balls of steel
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that gives new meaning to Mexican Tough
Success is counted sweetest by those who ne'er succeed. - Emily Dickinson
I am listening on radio and from Denny and Bob
it sounds like the Royals are getting squeezed at the plate. They have that drawn in their voice when describing the location of “where was that one?”
Like Soria being in there for the 8th and 9th. The game was on the line in the 8th inning with bases loaded. That is when an ace like Soria should do his job. A high stress inning but one that Soria handled well.
He did about as good as a job as you can ask for there
Bases loaded, 1 out, only one run with the heart of the lineup. Man..
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Royals 12 game losing streak...
7
Success is counted sweetest by those who ne'er succeed. - Emily Dickinson
Code words...
Are you serious? That’s just setting up for miscommunication and an interesting loss
Another quick out from our leadoff hitter
Thought that guy was suppose to work the pitcher.
ok
1-2-3 and I can savor a celebratory beer
Success is counted sweetest by those who ne'er succeed. - Emily Dickinson
We're Winning And
Still giving up a CG to CC.
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that's ok
he is on my fantasy baseball team, so a loss is balanced by a lower WHIP
I’m willing to take one for the team
Success is counted sweetest by those who ne'er succeed. - Emily Dickinson
Anyone Else See
That coming?
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by philofthenorth on May 31, 2008 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions
I haven't been able to see many games this season
is the facial hair new for Soria?
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Yes..
He’s been growing since Guillen called the team a bunch of babies…He’s trying to separate himself from the babies
He Grows It
Like a Mexican man.
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by philofthenorth on May 31, 2008 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions
god DAMN where dids that 2nd pitch mis to Francisco
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Ugh and of course pEralta is the tying run
AHHHHHHH
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oops
Victor turned on that one
Success is counted sweetest by those who ne'er succeed. - Emily Dickinson
YOU CAN PUT IT ON THE BOARDDDDDDDDDYES
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I wonder if one of the workers on the renovation
buried a Twins jersey in the foundation….
Success is counted sweetest by those who ne'er succeed. - Emily Dickinson
TPJ Is The
Man!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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"Trey Hillman rolls the dice and uses his closer for 6 outs"
Putting Soria in with a lead is the least risky thing Trey’s done in 2 weeks.
Should be “Trey Hillman rolls the dice and does a hit and run with TPJ at the plate”
+10
KC has got to break the standard – use the closer only for one inning. Soria has the ability to be an old fashioned fireman. And let’s face it, he gets lots of time off in the pen when KC is losing so much. They have to throw him into mop roles just to get him some work.
TPJ was used tonight in the absolute correct role – defensive replacement in the last 2 innings. Maybe as a PR then glove man.
What was the take on German as the starting SS?
At Least He
Doesn’t look like the little leaguer picking dandelions in RF when he’s at SS.
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by philofthenorth on May 31, 2008 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions
German made a couple pretty nice plays.
Missed a hot shot that would be a tough play for anyone, and a little bloop went over his head because the infield was in. Personoally, thought he wasn’t bad.
by I need more Esteban on May 31, 2008 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah
10 game winning streak starts tonight!!
by I need more Esteban on May 31, 2008 9:59 PM EDT reply actions
if they follow a schedule, yes
Success is counted sweetest by those who ne'er succeed. - Emily Dickinson
So nice to see a win again
I went to the game last night. Great game but really disappointing.
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You're Out Of
Line, JQ.
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by philofthenorth on May 31, 2008 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Out of line?
How so?
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by James Quinn on May 31, 2008 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions
You're A Radical
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by philofthenorth on May 31, 2008 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Radically optimistic about the Royals still!
They’ve played pretty well last few games.
That was the most bearable 12 game losing streak I’ve ever seen the Royals have!
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by James Quinn on May 31, 2008 10:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Thaty Is An
Incredibly glass-half-full take, but I can accept it.
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by philofthenorth on May 31, 2008 10:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Ace, As In
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by philofthenorth on May 31, 2008 10:07 PM EDT up reply actions
That's #5
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by philofthenorth on May 31, 2008 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Davies will have to do better to keep his rotation spot
100 pitches in 5 innings with runners left on base all over the place just isn’t good enough. Royals bullpen with Peralta and Soria were able to keep the damage to a minimum. Good for Peralta with his poor game vs. Twins.
Paul Byrd for the Indians and Bannister for Royals. Byrd is the type who usually carves up the Royals. Hope to see Aviles at SS and Callaspo at 2B. Of course, German is 100% victories with starting SS role.
Listened to the entire game tonight
and enjoyed it even when stressing about the last few innings. Losing streaks are bad for the soul. Talk to you later!!
I Owe My
Soul to the company store.
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by philofthenorth on May 31, 2008 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions
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