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The 100 Greatest Royals of All-Time - #56 Brent Mayne

"Some men are born mediocre, some men achieve mediocrity, and some men have mediocrity thrust upon them. With Major Major it had been all three."
-Joseph Heller, Catch-22

Stretching the term "greatest" in the loosest sense possible, #56 on our list is Brent Mayne.

I've gotten the emails, I've read the comments. I know this list is depressing at times with the number of mediocre, even crappy players that rank surprisingly high on the list. Take heed that many of these players were elevated on the list by sticking around for so long. It wasn't that they were great, it was that Royals management was too inept or too lazy to find someone better.

Brent Mayne was one such mediocre player. He was so amazingly mediocre that the Royals employed him in two separate stints. He is on this list for one reason only - he is 20th in Royals history in games played. He has played more games for Kansas City than Danny Tartabull, Brian McRae, Darrell Porter, Bo Jackson or Paul Splittorff. He spent nine seasons in Kansas City, more than Bret Saberhagen, Joe Randa, Steve Busby or Carlos Beltran. He is a reflection of both the weakness of using Win Shares to compile such a list, and the weakness of Royals management in the mid 90s.

Brent Mayne was actually a first round pick out of college baseball powerhouse Cal State-Fullerton. He was taken ahead of Cal Eldred, Mo Vaughn and Chuck Knoblauch, although in fairness, he was taken right after Jeff Juden. A lot of other teams felt he was a stretch for a first-round pick. He was a left-handed hitting catcher and baseball guys love left-handed hitting catchers. I've never really figured that out. Here are the left-handed or switch-hitting catchers taken in the first round from 1989-1999:

1989 - Tyler Houston (2nd), Atlanta
1989 - Alan Zinter (24th), NY Mets
1990 - Paul Ellis (30th), St. Louis
1990 - Marcus Jensen (33rd), San Francisco
1994 - Mark Johnson (26th), Chicago White Sox
1995 - Ben Davis (2nd), San Diego
1999 - Eric Munson (3rd), Detroit

Not an All-Star in the group. Sure you'll have your Joe Mauers every once in awhile, but I've never been impressed with the myth of the left-handed hitting catcher.

After just seven games in low A ball, Mayne began 1990 all the way in AA where he hit .267 with two home runs and 61 RBI, and found himself in Kansas City for a cup of the coffee at the end of the year. In the spring of 1991, Mayne beat out Tim Spehr for the chance to backup starting catcher Mike MacFarlane. He began the year with a 3-for-3 game against the Yankees and was hitting .301 as late as July of his rookie season. A second half slump dropped him to .251/.315/.325 in 85 games, as he filled in for an injured MacFarlane.

With MacFarlane blocking him for a starting role, the 23 year old Mayne was the subject of trade talk in the winter of 1991. The Astros were interested in him and were willing to deal a speedy outfielder named Kenny Lofton for Mayne. When the Royals insisted on also receiving reliever Antonio Osuna, the Astros balked, and instead dealt him to Cleveland. Oops.

Failing to land some bats in exchange for Mayne, the Royals picked up some bats from the Mets instead. They dealt Bret Saberhagen in a blockbuster deal for infielders Keith Miller, Gregg Jefferies and outfielder Kevin McReynolds. Complicating the situation was the Royals acquisition of catcher Bob Melvin from the Orioles for pitcher Storm Davis. Melvin was added just in case Mayne was dealt, but in the end, the Royals had to carry all three catchers on the roster. The Royals got off to an awful start that year, and Mayne was no exception. Without regular playing time, he would struggle much of the year, finishing at .225/.260/.272. 

Brent would spent the next three seasons in Kansas City, serving mostly as Mike MacFarlane's backup until 1995 when Mac left for Boston. Over 1993-1995 Mayne would post very consistent numbers, hitting between .251 and .257, posting an on-base percentage between .313 and .323 and posting a slugging percentage between .326 and .347. After giving Mayne a starting job in 1995 and seeing Mayne post his consistently pedestrian numbers, they decided to bring Mac back and dealt their former first round pick to the Mets for minor leaguer Al Shirley.

Mayne bounced around as a backup catcher from the Mets to the Athletics to the Giants to the Rockies. He had career years in 1999 and 2000, hitting .301 each year and posting an on-base percentage in the .380s. In 2000, he posted career highs in games played, at bats, home runs, RBI, and walks. He even pitched an inning an earned a win with an 83 mph fastball, becoming the first position player to earn a victory since 1968.

Despite a decent season in 2000, the Rockies decided to go with young Ben Petrick and shopped Mayne around. On June 24, the Royals re-acquired Mayne in exchange for P Mac Suzuki and C Sal Fasano.

"He is an above-average receiver...He has the experience we need at the major-league level to continue the development of our pitchers here as well as the guys we will bring up."
-General Manager Allard Baird

"He doesn't supply a whole lot of power, but that's not what we're looking for. We're looking for contact and the ability to move some runners. He supplies that."
-Manager Tony Muser

"No comment right now."
-Catcher Brent Mayne

Mayne was less than thrilled to be dealt to the hapless Royals and called the trade "unsettling." He split time the rest of the season with Gregg Zaun for the 97 loss Royals, hitting .241/.283/.313 and providing untold veteran presence for a young pitching staff that produced a 4.87 ERA. He went into 2002 as the starting catcher and hit .236 while shepherding a pitching staff with a 5.21 ERA.

I'm sure catchers can have an impact on pitching staffs. But just because a catcher is old and wise, doesn't mean he will have that impact.

Pitchers stats against while Brent Mayne was catching: .281/.349/.462 in 3257 at bats
Pitchers stats against while A.J. Hinch was catching: .285/.348/.468 in 2345 at bats

Virtually no difference.

Mayne was finally rewarded for sticking around Kansas City so long when in 2003 the team got off to an amazing start and led the American League Central Division for much of the season. He hit .245 with six home runs and 36 RBI. The pitching staff did seem to fare a bit better under his guidance than under that of backup catcher Mike DiFelice, although in fairness, they probably were scared DiFelice would light their rear-ends on fire .

After the season, the Royals let the thirty-five year old Mayne go and he signed on with Arizona. He was dealt midseason to the Dodgers and that fall appeared in his first post-season, collecting two hits. When the Dodgers declined to pick up his contract that winter, Mayne decided to retire.

So here's to you Brent Mayne. You didn't hit for much of an average. You didn't hit for any kind of power. You didn't draw walks. You didn't magically turn around pitching staffs. You didn't even throw out basestealers at a very high rate. But you were quiet, hard-working and you persevered. The fact that you appeared in 1279 big league games without a seeming ability to do anything particularly well is quite a testament to something. I'm just not sure what that is.

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another player the royals brought back for multiple tours

damn they did that alot in the 90s

and it was never even with good players!

I want Mark Redman, Tony G and Emil Brown back on this team in two years

by royalsreview on May 8, 2008 4:26 PM EDT reply reply   0 recs

Is Graffanino retired?

I haven’t seen him anywhere. His next stint with the Royals will be his third!

Relive Royals History at royalsretro.blogspot.com

by RoyalsRetro on May 8, 2008 4:40 PM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

I enjoyed...

the last paragraph most of all. It sounds like something that should be on a tombstone or resume for Homer Simpson.

by djk royal on May 8, 2008 4:51 PM EDT reply reply   0 recs

am i the only one who is completely embarrassed by this...

excercise? the fact that a journeyman, no hit catcher is our 55th most productive player ever is awful

TPJ...you're dead to me

by billybeingbilly on May 8, 2008 4:58 PM EDT reply reply   0 recs

As others have pointed out

If you take any team from 1969-2007, their #50-#60 players in Win Shares aren’t going to be very good. Lots of journeymen who just ate innings and plate appearances.

I probably disagree with you.

by NYRoyal on May 8, 2008 5:07 PM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

it also shows the weakness of Win Shares

(not that I mean that as a criticism, I love the series)

But, as I understand it, you can’t earn negative Win Shares, so even though Bako was most certainly a below-average hitter, he’s bankin points just for showing up.

by royalsreview on May 8, 2008 6:28 PM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Ahh,

That’s the secret to my success at work too!

Let's Go Blues!

by powderbluesfor08 on May 8, 2008 6:45 PM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Ah, Brent Mayne

He was my brother’s favorite player. He even had a #2 Mayne T-shirt jersey. His favorite KU basketball player was Jeff Graves, if that tells you anything about his method for selecting favorites.

by raefzilla on May 9, 2008 2:53 AM EDT reply reply   0 recs

He was part of that 2003 Finals team

With Langford and Miles. He had a huge game in one of the tourney games – 16 points and 16 boards. Other than that, he was pretty much a 4 point 6 rebound a game guy.

He was also from the KC area, so I can kind of understand why one would cheer for him.

Relive Royals History at royalsretro.blogspot.com

by RoyalsRetro on May 9, 2008 3:17 PM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Langford was a stud

"So whattya say, should we clean this place up?" - Tom Cruise

by DyeFan187 on May 9, 2008 3:24 PM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Graves was pretty integral to that team

2003 probably doesn’t happen without Graves. Hinrich and Collison were great. But Graves was our only other big man after Simien went down. Hard to believe a team with Bryant Nash as the first big guy off the bench made it to the National Title game.

Graves had 16 and 16 in the national title game and a double double in the win over Arizona. He should have fared better after that, but we changed coaches and he never jived with Self. And he liked the wacky weed…

It’s a testament to the charisma of Mayne that this thread so quickly devolved into discussion of KU basketball players of the past.

by Big Guy on May 9, 2008 3:56 PM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

my favorite KU player was probably Jerrod haase

but now when i rewatch those old games, I basically hate his game

he drug those teams down

by royalsreview on May 9, 2008 3:12 PM EDT reply reply   0 recs

I'm a KSU fan...

but I think jerrod haase and billy thomas cost them several final four appearances.

by djk royal on May 9, 2008 3:15 PM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Not a fan of Haase?

I guess you don’t have this book

Jerrod took grit and put it on the basketball court.

Relive Royals History at royalsretro.blogspot.com

by RoyalsRetro on May 9, 2008 3:18 PM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Haase shot way too many threes

and poorly

"So whattya say, should we clean this place up?" - Tom Cruise

by DyeFan187 on May 9, 2008 3:24 PM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

yea

he was actually a very dumb player, and again, I loved the guy

back in the day, since I had a Cross Country base, when we were playing hoops everyday I was actually pretty effective purely on energy and speed… i loved it when haase would just put his head down and fling himself to the basket… and like once a game he’d hit a three in transition…

by royalsreview on May 9, 2008 3:57 PM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

For as many good players as Roy had...

I was always shocked at how poorly we shot the ball. I was happy to see that the trend has continued at UNC. If they can’t run you out of the building or beat you up in the interior, they aren’t going to shoot their way to a win.

by Big Guy on May 9, 2008 3:59 PM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

They also

Poorly guarded against the three. He was all about the fast break and the interior game. Dunks are cool!

Relive Royals History at royalsretro.blogspot.com

by RoyalsRetro on May 9, 2008 4:07 PM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Rabbit Was A

Total stats cipher; he was TPJ on an amateur basketball team.

I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.

by philofthenorth on May 10, 2008 1:33 AM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

God I hated Haase

But then, I’m a Mizzou fan. Actually, that’s probably a pretty good tribute to a player—if the fans of your arch-rival just can’t stand the guy, he’s probably doing something right. I’m sure you KU folks have similar feelings about players like Grimm, Church, Sandbothe,etc.

by Professor Chaos on May 9, 2008 5:48 PM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

If ifs worth anything

I hated Jason Sutherland, and he was probably the equivalent of Haase.

Relive Royals History at royalsretro.blogspot.com

by RoyalsRetro on May 9, 2008 5:54 PM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Objectively speaking

Sutherland was similar to Haase, and at his best he added a lot to the team, but there were 2 or 3 incidents where Jason probably crossed the line in a way I never saw from another Big 8/Big 12 player except Najera. Playing hard is one thing, but going out there trying to hurt people is different. I love the Tigers, and I loved how they used to play under Norm, but there were times when Sutherland was pretty tough to root for.

by Professor Chaos on May 9, 2008 7:26 PM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

I actually like this "deficiency" of Win Shares

It seems to me that in a list of greatest players, one should account for playing time. It says something about the team whether this something is bad or good. But like it or not, Myane played a bunch of games for the Royals. That makes him a true Royal to say it stupidly. I don’t think I’m explaining it well, but I like that playing time is in the equation.

by mazoboom on May 9, 2008 10:24 PM EDT reply reply   0 recs

I get what you mean

I think its better to honor guys that actually spent a lot of time in a Royals uniform, for better or for worse, than honor All-Star talents that were here in the blink of an eye.

Relive Royals History at royalsretro.blogspot.com

by RoyalsRetro on May 9, 2008 11:57 PM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs


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