Game 34 Open Thread - Orioles (16-18) at Royals (15-18)
Baltimore Orioles at Kansas City Royals, May 8, 2008 8:10 PM EDT
Yesterday we pondered -- the royal we, man, the editorial -- the likelihood that the Royals could crawl back to .500 this season, an event which, depending on how you looked at the details, seemed about a 10-15% possibility. In case you missed it, a loyal reader delved into the math a little bit more and found that the probably sweet spot for the Royals was something like a 17-13 burst. This is more likely than, say, a straight four game winning streak, or, conversely, going four games over .500 over a much long period (which was my initial guess).
Well thanks to Zack Greinke and an offensive explosion last night against the Angels, that glittering dream is now that much closer to reality, with the Royals ready to jump all over a Baltimore team that still owes us big for stealing away Paul Bako.
Your pitching matchup:
And don't forget to share your thoughts on tonight's episode of The Office of course.
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Tonight's Edition Of
The Royals:
D. DeJesus cf 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .314
M. Grudzielanek 2b 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .302
A. Gordon 3b 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .280
B. Butler dh 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .281
M. Teahen rf 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .270
A. Callaspo lf 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .341
R. Gload 1b 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .276
J. Buck c 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .253
T. Pena Jr. ss 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .161
Totals 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Guillie sits, and Callie gets to show his OF skills.
I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.
Why is Guillen sitting after last night? Is his neck still hurting?
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Orioles series is really big for KC right now
The Orioles are the type of team that KC needs to sweep or win the series. KC is at home and the O’s have lost 5 in a row. KC had two good wins vs. the Indians. They played pretty well vs. Angels with Tomko’s performance and a breakout last night.
Royals have momentum with Hochevar on the mound. He pitched a great game vs. Indians. Cabrera has 23/27 ratio BB/Ks. Let’s go Royals.
Luke is really going to have to do better than a walk for every K
walking guys with 2 outs is bad. His groundball tendencies will save him a lot there, but it’s just not a good way to pitch
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Have I mentioned
that I hate the Orioles only about <this> much less than I hate the Yankees?
Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.
who hates the o's?
that’s like hating the royals.
The O's Used
To be worth hating (I know I did), and once you start it’s hard to stop.
I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.
by philofthenorth on May 8, 2008 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions
You don't understand.
My ex-wife grew up in a Baltimore suburb.
I live 75 miles from Baltimore, in a completely different state, and they have the gall to argue that I’m in their territory.
Lastly, I took said ex-wife to the following doubleheader at the K in 1991, and she Orioled me to death for MONTHS:
http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/KCA/KCA199106231.shtml
http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/KCA/KCA199106232.shtml
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It's not like there's a major-league team in Lake Charles
with a better claim to your viewing loyalty.
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I hope we improve on last year's season against the Orioles...
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Luke is throwing a ton of pitches
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Ugh, walk leads to a run via wild pitch
That’s ugly
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Yikes. 28 pitch first inning.
Everything hit on the ground. But when you walk guys with two outs, yeah.
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Is it just me
or does David always seem like he can’t remember where the dugout is at first when he Ks?
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Sound the alarms.
I think that’s the first time this year a Royal could have taken an extra base and failed to.
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Yay..extra base power
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There is the first RISP stranded
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Why the Royals organization is better than the Orioles
We may have a fan promotion that almost never pays out, but at least winners get cash. You know what the Orioles fans get?
Maryland scratcher lottery tickets. “You win a chance to win!”
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good bounceback inning
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More important, why have back to back hitters
Struck out looking at fastballs…. down the middle?
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Teahen Got A
Terrible call; the ball was at his ankles.
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by philofthenorth on May 8, 2008 8:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Sorry, I just turned the game on
But still
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At Least The
Ump is giving the low strike to Hooch, too.
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by philofthenorth on May 8, 2008 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions
I like the K's, but not the balls to the backstop
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Stop. Walking. Guys
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Just bad pitching
Can’t pitch like that and be successful
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Banny Will Coach
And/or manage if he wants to.
I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.
With his groundball-inducing sinker
he needs to learn to throw strikes to the Melvin Moras of the world, and save pitches for the Nick Markakises.
Sigh, now we have almost zero chance of winning
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Why do the Orioles own us? They suck juts as bad. I don't get it
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If It's Over
The plate and doesn’t bounce it’s a strike tonight. Use that.
I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.
BWAHAHAHAHA
Gary Thorne: “Pena obviously up there trying to draw a walk…”
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We look as miserable at the plate tonight as ever
Cabrera just firing in fastballs
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On the rare occasions Cabrera can locate his fastball (like tonight)
he is a pretty tough pitcher to face.
Worst int he league if I remember correctly
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Then again I think we're probably the worst at hitting offspeed stuff also
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That May Be
Why Guillie is sitting tonight; his bat is becoming “slider speed”.
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by philofthenorth on May 8, 2008 9:19 PM EDT up reply actions
When Hooch Comes
Up, he needs to come way up, like the letters.
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Another inning of us looking helpless
How many times have we seen this so far this season…
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The Hanger For
Strike 2 to Butler was the pitch to hit; obviously he wasn’t expecting it.
I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.
He's been slumping
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Does it really matter
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Will it continue to annoy you
if he keeps going 7 without giving up runs?
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That seems incredibly likely
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nice double play
Brian Roberts… where was all the outrage about him destroying our national innocence
how many protests against him tonight at the k
Oh god
So, on this Orioles commercial, this guy was wearing an Orioles jersey—only the lettering was like the old Garvey-era Padres jerseys.
It scared me.
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I'm getting really sick
of watching opposing shortstops get web gems AND hit against us.
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I'm sick of us letting mediocre pitchers throw <12 pitches an inning
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(Since I don’t suspect most people are stuck with the MASN feed: they’re running interstitial interviews with him before almost every inning, AND they’ve spent this entire half-inning on the phone with his BROTHER.)
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wow
but is Amber Theoharris working tonight ? or does she only do home games
she’s like erin anderws lite
Troy Percival just blew a 3 run ninth inning lead for the Rays
After about 3 articles running in two days on the invincibility of their Bullpen.
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we have:
1) a AA slap hitter playing SS
2) a 2B playing LF
3) a light hitting 3B playing RF
4) a bench player playing first
5) a fifty year old at 2b
etc…
John Buck has really put together a string of great AB's spanning th last few games
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Our best scoring chance of the game, and we have TPJ at th plate
Talk about a total joke. The goal of us scoring here has to be like, 3%.
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i really wish he would try to bunt for a hit at least 65% of the time
the other 35% try to top it over the 3Bs head
There was the 3%
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Wow, We're Really
Screwed with TPJ in RISP situations from now on.
I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.
by philofthenorth on May 8, 2008 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm rooting for him
to have a freak accident at home that lands him on the 60-day
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If Royals management hasn't figured out by this point that TPJ isn't the long-term solution
then they probably don’t deserve to be managing a major league franchise
He just brings back all those bad
Rey Sanchez and David Howard memories.
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Whoa whoa whoa
Rey Sanchez was 10 times the player TPJ is
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...and Neifi Perez and Angel Berroa and CHRIST WE HAVEN’T HAD A SHORTSTOP SINCE PATEK.
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Hey, we had one good year of Angel
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As he grounds the fastball down the middle to second base
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Yeah, 6 innings should do it
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I don't really know how to judge this start by Hochevar
6 IP, 4H, 4ER, 2BB, 5K’s
Obviously the walks killed him today, but I supposed he pitched a bit better than the line.
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Hoch does get a lot of ground balls
That’s nice to see. I think he’s got a future!
Which is interesting because it means the Royals have 4 rotation spots locked up
barring injuries, for the next 3-5 years…
yes, very nice
i’d love to bring in a good FA guy for the #5 slot
and basically have an awesome rotation
We'll see, we've seen the great and the godawful
Hopefully he settles out into the 4.5 ERA serviceable range
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Which comes back to the point - the pitching is really solid
The division is as mediocre as may ever get.
They need to find a hitter…this year.
Not gonna happen - keep dreaming
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Man, another terrible Butler AB - the hitting woes continue
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One Night In
Bangkok.
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by philofthenorth on May 8, 2008 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Surprised to see Luke back out there
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Excuse me, please
But when was the last Oriole batter NOT retired by a ball hit to Pena?
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.250 works for me
at least he has a 1/4 shot of getting on base then
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Yeah, 'Cause He
Is clinically incapable of walking.
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by philofthenorth on May 8, 2008 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Okay, we cannot let that runner on second score
Pull Luke
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I guess it worked though, so there's a +1 for his confidence
7 IP 4 runs does look a fair bit better than 6 with 4
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Back In My
Day…..........
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by philofthenorth on May 8, 2008 10:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Warning Track Power
Is not a pretty sight.
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by philofthenorth on May 8, 2008 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Hackfest continues
13 groundouts, 1 fly out
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7 pitch 7th inning
Yes, this offense is terrible. All fastballs, no foul balls.
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I think the good he's done with the pitching staff outweighs the bad on the offense
But I’m definitely questioning his judgment to a certain degree. There have really been no offensive bright spots to this point – which is hard to believe 40 games in. I guess Dejesus has been good in the handful of games he’s played, and Olivo has been a bit better than expected. Other than that, all of GMDM’s players have flopped thus far – and while I realize his plan is stockpile pitching then deal it for sticks, I wonder if he’s going to be able to get us GOOD bats.
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+1. It feels like GMDM is to pitching what Allard Baird was to offense.
I mean, Baird never had problem finding guys that could hit.
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I'd Settle For
Better bats at this point.
I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.
by philofthenorth on May 8, 2008 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes, because if I have to sit through games like this all season
I’m going to punch something
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No BB, But
He’s quietly become good at working the count; he’s fouling off a lot of pitches.
I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.
by philofthenorth on May 8, 2008 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions
The amazing thing is, he's throwing two pitches
Low to mid nineties nineties fastball and a slider, OCCASIONALLY. And we can not hit him. It’s not like he’s just painting the corners either, we are consistently late on the pitch or rolling it over to the infielders. I’m all for giving the opposing pitcher credit, but this is pathetic.
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Nothing weirder than him going from 0-2 to 3-2
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Heh, of course he can always just fall back on the cutter
And throw it inner half and get the pop up. Gotta love it
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this game makes my soul sad
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by loyal2theroyals on May 8, 2008 10:24 PM EDT reply actions
hey trey...
if you had used soria in the 9th 3 days ago in a tie game, you wouldn’t have to be “getting him work” now
I think he pretty much admitted that was a mistake in the postgame
I doubt it’s one he’ll make again
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Now, see, I'm not sure exactly what he was admitting.
If he was admitting he should have brought Soria in, that was one lesson, but not the most important one.
Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.
The curveball command is not there tonight
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He Stuck His
Knee out to get hit.
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by philofthenorth on May 8, 2008 10:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, but he's still missed with both of them
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They're Arguing Pinhead
Angels at this point.
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Check me on this
wouldn’t the interference interfere with the chance of throwing Payton out trying to get back to first?
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since there was no advance...
there wasn’t an advantage gained, right?
There was an attempted advance
And there was a play at first afterward.
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Holy crap, Soria might actually give up a run.
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Jesus, 2 HBP, WTF
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What a bizarre-o outing from Soria
I’m sure he’ll be fine, but still.
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asleep at the wheel?
let’s hope.
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by loyal2theroyals on May 8, 2008 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, if Soria has to struggle this is the time to do it
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Peralta should be good for a double play, right?
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FUCKING PERALTA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You wanna talk about giving up on a game
A lot of you wont like me... by I assure you my opinion will be voiced GO ROYALS!
Jor-El Is Not
A bad pitcher.
I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.
by philofthenorth on May 8, 2008 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions
No kidding, the 0.0 is intact
I gotta say, Jack hasn’t looked as sharp in his past few outings. I wonder if they’ll have him pocket the slow slow curve for a couple games after his problems with it tonight.
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This could be the end of Joakim Soria's ERA as we know it
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I Swear I
Listened to the A’s come back from 10 down in the 9th against the Yankees when I was a kid; people had left the park and were trying to get back in.
I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.
by philofthenorth on May 8, 2008 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions
I wish they were putting Sherrill out there
There is no way we rally off Cabrera
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Great sequence to grudz
Fastball fastball fastball fastball
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Yeah, then the EXACT SAME SEQUENCE TO GORDON!
For the staring strikeout. Genius dude.
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What a fitting way to end a horrific game
Jesus CHrist
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This just in: the Royals can not hit a major league fastball
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You know what the best thing ever to happen to Baltimore was?
The nuke in Sum of All Fears.
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Made even sweeter by the fact that the orioles were struggling mightily coming into this game
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Another well pitched game thrown down the shitter, seriously
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Cliff Lee Just
Blew the Yankees away yesterday; it happens.
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by philofthenorth on May 8, 2008 10:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Rick Dempsey is talking about
“what pitchin’ and catchin’ is all about”.
Please, help me resist the obvious rude Deadspinnish comment.
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