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Milton Bradley vs. Ryan LeFebvre

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For those of you w/o past knowledge of Ryan's calls of Bradley's play....it is really biased.  But as anyone who follows Milton Bradley can attest to, the guy is a prick and doesn't necessarily attract praise.  For instance, during Tuesday night's game, on the ball that went under Bradley's glove as a run scored (i know, miraculously), Ryan exclaimed as Bradley half-assedly (new word Webster, get on it) ran towards the ball, "He's not hustling after it at all."  While this is not unbiased reporting, it is also the truth.  Milton Bradley is a bonafide prick in the baseball community.  He goes after umpires, fans, coaches, teammates, and occasionally his own body in the process (see injury in last season's playoff chase for the Padres).  Now, he has reached a new level.  Four levels in fact.  He climbed four flights of stairs in pursuit of Ryan LeFebvre, our beloved comedian-er, play by play guy.  Link: sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3438827 ...so, who is right?  The comedian honest observer/villain in Milton's world?  Or Milton 'We almost acquired you for Leo Nunez; thank god we didn't' Bradley?

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Bradley seems pretty psycho
Upon returning to the clubhouse, Bradley screamed at teammates and broke down in tears.

“Some broadcaster said I was loafing in the field. I just can’t take it anymore!” Waaaaaah! Waaaaaaah! Waaaaaah!

He reacts to some pretty lightly negative comments from a broadcaster by going after the guy? Grow the hell up, Milton. You made a bad play and then half-assed it in the field. Ryan called you on it. And you have a history of being a jerk. So you really can’t be surprised when people call you a jerk. Bradley, like Guillen, and Pierzynski have earned a reputation of being assholish (and lazy in Bradley’s case). Grow up and get over it. What a moron.

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Jun 12, 2008 3:14 AM EDT   0 recs

he has been like the top hitter in the AL so far this year....

and hasnt gotten suspended….and he made a bad play…which everyone does. I dont agree with praising someone for overcoming crack/heroin addictions by attacking someone who has had none of those issues. It is in no way Miltons fault that Hamilton nearly killed himself. There was no reason to bring Milton into that conversation at all.

And my god ryan, if i hear you talk about ‘how old is too old’ to bring a god damned glove to the game im gonna start watching other teams broadcasts

TPJ...you're dead to me

by billybeingbilly on Jun 12, 2008 3:22 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

So what exactly did he say that was wrong?

Hamilton has come back from drug addiction to rebuild his life and career. At the same time, Milton Bradley is a consistent jerk and psycho (my words, not Ryan’s). He proved that again last year by overreacting to an umpire. He proved it yet again by overreacting to the very mild criticisms of a broadcaster (Ryan is no Jim Rome). This guy is nuts. He’s certainly hit well, but he’s also a legitimate psychotic with serious anger and impulse control issues. The dude needs therapy and/or meds.

I find Ryan’s attempts at humor usually miss. He can be annoying. But his criticisms of Bradley were fair (guys like Bradley, Guillen and AJP have earned those criticisms). And if he can’t take those criticisms without trying to hunt down the broadcaster for a confrontation, he’s in the wrong line of work.

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Jun 12, 2008 3:29 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

if you want to criticize bradley...as ryan did last night for a bad, lazy play...thats fine...

but to act like hamilton and his crack problems are in some way better than bradleys anger issues…thats stupid to me.

TPJ...you're dead to me

by billybeingbilly on Jun 12, 2008 3:33 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

not that ryan is stupid...

but i think its a stupid misguided argument to say that almost killing yourself is better than throwing temper tantrums

TPJ...you're dead to me

by billybeingbilly on Jun 12, 2008 3:35 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Did he say that drug addiction is worse than temper tantrums?

Or did he praise Hamilton for recovering from his addiction and turning his life around, and then say that it would be great if Bradley could get past his own problems too?

This was a massive, silly overreaction by Bradley, essentially proving that Ryan’s criticisms of him were both fair and accurate.

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Jun 12, 2008 3:38 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I'm sorry

but I must have missed the memo on Bradley having recovered from his problems and stayed “clean” for an extended period of time.

Understand, I think the fawning over Hamilton is a crock of shit; his career has recovered from something he did to it his own damn self. He shouldn’t be praised at all. I mean, I’m glad for the guy for overcoming his demons, but he’s not “a great story”. But even at that, Hamilton’s had his act together for a few years now.

Milton Bradley couldn’t even go 8 months without snapping off another tantrum.

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on Jun 12, 2008 5:38 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

He shouldn't be praised?

Apparently you’ve never known anyone who suffered from a crack addiction. Very few people come out of crack addictions unscathed. Most end up dead or in prison. For him to not only recover from the addiction but play Major League Baseball at the level that he’s playing right now is simply amazing and he deserves all the praise he gets.

by Butters on Jun 13, 2008 2:46 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

+1

I have to agree. I agree with the AMA and APA that drug addiction is a disease. I’m not going to blame him for falling prey to this disease. And he deserves credit for having overcome it, at least so far.

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Jun 13, 2008 2:59 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I agree with them that it is a disease

However, it is a disease one can only contract through one’s own actions (barring being forced to take drugs under threat of force, I suppose).

And there’s a difference between “credit” and “praise”. See below.

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on Jun 13, 2008 3:26 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Of all of the things that I'm interested in getting into a long debate over, this isn't

I’ll just say that I don’t think it is cut and dried. There are lots of diseases that people can get through their own actions. I don’t think that means the person should be blamed for being a horrible person for getting the disease. Lots of people experiment with illegal drugs. I don’t think those people are awful for doing that. It’s not a good thing. It’s not a good idea. But a lot of people do it and I don’t think it is an awful, horrible, morally bankrupt act. And, particularly in the case of a drug like crack, this can lead to instant addiction. I don’t have a problem with someone being lauded for overcoming that disease, even if his own experimentation led to the disease.

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Jun 13, 2008 3:45 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

No, he doesn't.

He deserves credit, and I will even say he warrants the wholehearted support of anyone and everyone, but I refuse to accept that we should praise people for overcoming obstacles which they inflict upon themselves.

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on Jun 13, 2008 3:21 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Milton was in the wrong here

But as soon as Ryan brought up Bradley’s name in contrast to Hamilton, I thought it was a really odd juxtaposition. Bradley has never had substance abuse issues. He’s having a terrific season. It was a really weird comparison. But he should have ignored it. He’s only making the issue worse.

Relive Royals History at royalsretro.blogspot.com

by RoyalsRetro on Jun 12, 2008 10:15 AM EDT   0 recs

Thanks for posting this

Lefebvre can say what he wants about Bradley. Bradley would be better served by getting a better handle on his emotions (real news flash there). So Lefebvre may have been less then kind to Bradley, but Bradley, in his position as a professional athlete with a track record, can’t deal with criticism through confrontation.

When I read about Bradley the impression I get is someone who actually has a psychological problem. He seems like a bright guy who knows he has a habit of making the same mistake again and again, yet he can’t seem to stop himself once he gets a rush of blood to the head. He has accepted responsibility for his actions in the past, at times almost immediately after the incident when he cools down. So I don’t classify Bradley as an asshole so much as a guy with a problem who I wouldn’t want to hang around with.

www.rockchalktalk.com for pretty good KU baseball coverage

by James Quinn on Jun 12, 2008 10:20 AM EDT   0 recs

What's really depressing

about Bradley is that of the three guys NYRoyal mentioned (AJP, Guillen, and Bradley), Bradley is, when healthy, clearly the best player. He’s having a career year. And he has overcome a tough upbringing. He is the guy we should be cheering rather than Josh Hamilton. In a way, it’s like Barry Bonds—this is a guy we should all be enjoying, but he makes it almost completely impossible to do so.

(Yes, I realize a lot of people think Bonds’ public relations problems are just a product of the evil media out to get him, but I think the point regarding MB is there anyway).

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Jun 12, 2008 12:33 PM EDT   0 recs

Oops, for got add

That of the “big three,) MB is both the most talented but also the one whose psychological/behavioral problems hold him back the most.

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Jun 12, 2008 12:43 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

"forgot TO add"

this is great

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Jun 12, 2008 12:43 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I'm sure everyone who watches KC games

realizes this but Milton Bradley is a constant spot of conversation between the announcers. Split, White and Ryan bring his name up constantly even when KC isn’t playing Texas. Always saying Milton is Ryan’s favorite player so somethng tells me there is something else between the two of them we don’t know.

That being said Bradley is a FREAK. How long is this guy gonna continue to act like a spoiled brat. Did everyone see his dance into second base Monday night? Then he was jawing with the fans putting his hand to his ear. Washington even pulled him in the 9th inning, maybe for defense but mostly because the guy wasn’t focused.

It’s too bad that this guy can’t control himself. He has made alot of money but I wonder how much he has cost himself.

Billy at worst will be Sean Casey jr.

by kcscoliny on Jun 12, 2008 1:45 PM EDT   0 recs

Yeah, this is atleast the third time that Ryan Lefebvre has said something about Bradley in the last 2 series with Texas.

Im feeling that either it has something to do with ST, or either of their prior stops along the way. That being said, it shines a poor light on the orginizations PR staff and the orginization as a whole for this to being ran through the national media. There is no good that can come fom this.

How do you think Guillen would react if several times during the Rangers broadcasts the teams announcers imply that he is a cheat for using PED’s? Or Greineke about his emotional state? or even Ryan Lefebvre’s bouts with depression? Sometimes I truly think the brain to mouth filter needs to be used a little bit more.

by laxtonto on Jun 12, 2008 1:55 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Who gives a damn?

It shines a poor light on the organization? How? Because a broadcaster points out Bradley’s recurrent problems, issues and bad behaviors? Is he supposed to pretend the guy doesn’t get into trouble all the time?

How do you think Guillen would react if several times during the Rangers broadcasts the teams announcers imply that he is a cheat for using PED’s?

Did Ryan imply that Bradley is a cheat? Let’s make a better hypothetical. How do you think Guillen would react if another broadcaster brought up the fact that Guillen gets in trouble everywhere he goes with both management and some teammates and that he’s got problems and issues that just keep coming up? Well, I’ve heard other teams’ announcers say those things about Guillen, and I haven’t heard of him chasing any of them down. Broadcasters bring that stuff about A.J. Pierzynski all the time (and rightfully so) and he doesn’t throw a fit and yell and cry about it like Bradley did.
Or Greineke about his emotional state?

For every Greinke start, the opposing team’s broadcasters always bring up his psychological issues, social anxiety disorder and depression. For some reason, it doesn’t cause Greinke to lose it. Must be the meds.

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Jun 12, 2008 2:12 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Bad light on the org?

How does the media spouting off on another Milton Bradley rant give our organization a bad rep? Bradley is a joke and who cares what ESPN thinks of the Royals.

All I said was there was probably more to the story than just last night incident.

Billy at worst will be Sean Casey jr.

by kcscoliny on Jun 12, 2008 11:18 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

No Bradley in the lineup today

Where’s the game thread?

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Jun 12, 2008 2:15 PM EDT   0 recs

Bradley must be in his cage cooling off

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Jun 12, 2008 2:23 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

It's not that black and white

I’ll say I agree with LeFebvre but man, this post is even more biased than Ryan. Milton Bradley, besides being a headcase, is a darn good player when healthy. Yeah he makes the occasional errors but they are not quite Manny’s hilarious level yet. And please, before you say anything about him being a so so player, look up his number this year.

by playingwithfire on Jun 12, 2008 2:46 PM EDT   0 recs

Did anybody say he wasn't a good player?

Can’t he both a good player and a A-hole with frequent behavior problems at the same time?

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Jun 12, 2008 3:06 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

He was, and is.

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Jun 12, 2008 6:28 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

And I have no problem with a broadcaster recognizing the obvious

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Jun 12, 2008 6:41 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Me neither

It was the comp to Hamilton that struck me as odd.

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Jun 13, 2008 2:49 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

It was an ill-advised parallel

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Jun 13, 2008 2:58 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Whats kind of odd

Is as far as I can tell, Milton’s been on his best behavior in the clubhouse this year. How does Ryan know he’s still a jerk? Does he travel with the Rangers or something?

Relive Royals History at royalsretro.blogspot.com

by RoyalsRetro on Jun 12, 2008 3:10 PM EDT   0 recs

And Hamilton had drug issues every year

Until last year. He’s supposedly clean now, and everyone lauds him. Well, I haven’t heard an incident about Bradley up until Lefebvre called him out, so how was that justified?

Relive Royals History at royalsretro.blogspot.com

by RoyalsRetro on Jun 12, 2008 4:05 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

How was it justified?

Ryan said very little. Ryan said that Bradley has had issues which it didn’t seem like he’d been able to get past. Are you saying that Ryan shouldn’t have said that because maybe Bradley has turned over a new leaf and now his character and personality are completely different now? So nobody gets to mention his past behavior until he does something new? Why? And does that hold for Guillen too? Are we supposed to pretend that Guillen isn’t an a-hole anymore? Is that something no one should talk about? The reality is that their long, frequent track records of assholish behavior have proven what Guillen and Bradley are. They are A-holes who blow up frequently. It would be silly for a broadcaster or fan to pretend otherwise.

Ryan “called him out.” Is pointing out past behavior “calling him out”? If so, then Guillen, Sheffield, AJP and Bradley get called out every week by some broadcaster. It’s called recognizing reality.

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Jun 12, 2008 4:24 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I have no problem calling out past behavior

But he’s saying Hamilton has “turned his life around” while saying Bradley has not. He has no idea if Bradley has turned his life around or not. He doesn’t cover the Rangers, he has no idea what their clubhouse is like or how Bradley has been in that clubhouse. By all accounts, Bradley has been fine in the clubhouse, like Guillen has been with the Royals. But Ryan just assumes Milton is the same clubhouse cancer, but Hamilton is a model citizen now.

I’m all for calling out players, I just think the way Ryan goes out of his way to call out Milton Bradley, not just in this telecast, but other games, is odd, and not really necessary. And I’m no Milton Bradley fan (I was very much against us trading for him last year).

Relive Royals History at royalsretro.blogspot.com

by RoyalsRetro on Jun 12, 2008 5:05 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

"Mildly critical"

Is always going to be in the eye of the beholder. If someone were saying things I felt were false about me, I might want to talk to them about it too.

It is also kind of odd that everyone assumes Bradley was confronting Lefebvre to fight him or something. Bradley has done this before. Earlier, he talked to Josh Llewin after a game to explain his side of the story. Supposedly it was all cordial. I think its entirely possible Bradley was doing the same here, wanting to ask Lefebvre why he was making negative comments, and explaining his side of the story. I understand that Milton doesn’t deserve the benefit of the doubt, but that doesn’t mean we have to automatically assume the worst about him either.

Relive Royals History at royalsretro.blogspot.com

by RoyalsRetro on Jun 12, 2008 5:28 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Talking about it
Is always going to be in the eye of the beholder. If someone were saying things I felt were false about me, I might want to talk to them about it too.

Do you think he wanted to sit down and have a nice chat with Ryan about it?
It is also kind of odd that everyone assumes Bradley was confronting Lefebvre to fight him or something.

I doubt he would have hit Ryan. I think he wanted to have one of his typical screaming flip outs and unload on Ryan verbally.
Supposedly it was all cordial.

You buy that? Two of his coaches stopped him from getting to Ryan. Do you think they thought it was going to be nice and cordial? If so, I have some swamp land to sell you.
I think its entirely possible Bradley was doing the same here, wanting to ask Lefebvre why he was making negative comments, and explaining his side of the story.

Why? Because Bradley’s typical use of calm restraint? Bradley is what he is. He’s an emotional hot head with anger and impulse control issues. People’s personalities don’t change that much from year to year. You really can’t expect guys like Bradley or Guillen to change much.

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Jun 12, 2008 5:39 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

You don't think Guillen has changed?

I think the guy in Seattle is a far cry from the guy in Anaheim.

Relive Royals History at royalsretro.blogspot.com

by RoyalsRetro on Jun 12, 2008 5:49 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Little, if any

Same goes for Bradley, Sheffield and AJP

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Jun 12, 2008 6:03 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Nate Bukaty saw him when he was looking for him

and said that he looked pretty mad and doubted that he just wanted to have a chat.

by I need more Esteban on Jun 12, 2008 7:09 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I also think

that his behavior in the series helped him bring this up….Bradley dancing on 2nd base, Bradley yelling at fans at first base and holding his hand up to his ear, Bradley allowing a ball to go by him in the outfield and then jogging to go get it at the wall instead of sprinting. I saw all those things this series.

by I need more Esteban on Jun 12, 2008 7:06 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

i never thought id be in the (however slight) majority on this one...

but I really liken this to this hypothetical situation…someone in the rangers broadcast booth points out that bob davis used to be a drunk but he recovered from it while pointing out that Ryan still has a drinking and depression problem. How do you think that would go over? How would Ryan feel? Some people have problems that they havent solved yet, it happens. It doesnt need to be brought up over and over again on TV. I have no problem with him pointing out the night before that Milton didnt hustle after the ball after he misplayed it, but last night was a joke.

TPJ...you're dead to me

by billybeingbilly on Jun 12, 2008 7:03 PM EDT   0 recs

Big differences

It is the job of a MLB broadcaster to comment on the players. It is not his job to speak about the personal, private life of the other team’s broadcasters. If Ryan has or had a drinking/depression problem, has it ever become public? Bradley’s problems/issues have been very public, on the field, in the dugout and in the clubhouse. That is a baseball issue relevant to a broadcaster. The personal and private issues of another team’s broadcaster is not a baseball issue.

The real and truly on point hypothetical is this: What if someone in an opposing team’s both pointed out that Guillen has had repeated attitiude and behavior issues and problems throughout his career, causing team after team to cut ties with him and that Guillen hasn’t gotten past that yet. This “hypothetical” has basically happened many times this season. Watching Royals games on MLBEI, I’ve heard many broadcasters discuss that in much the same terms as Ryan discussed Bradley. Did it piss me off? Not at all. Did Guillen make a big deal of it? Never. Similarly, ever team’s broadcasters bring up Greinke’s psychological issues every time he starts. Again, no big deal.

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Jun 12, 2008 7:24 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

ryans problems are very public...

he has spoken about them. he’s a public figure in the public eye just like the players are. i dont see how emotional problems and emotional/drinking for two public figures are any different. like i said last night…praise hamilton all you want (though i wouldnt), but Bradley shouldve never been brought into it…nor should he have reacted in the manner that he did. But i think that Ryan was more in the wrong last night.

TPJ...you're dead to me

by billybeingbilly on Jun 12, 2008 7:28 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Oh please

Ryan isn’t baseball player and that is what broadcasters are supposed to be talking about. Broadcasters NEVER talk about the personal lives of the other team’s broadcasters, or other employees of the team. “Boy have you heard how much of a drinker the Cubs Marketing Director is?” Ryan isn’t a player. His problems haven’t been on the field, in games, in the dugout and in the clubhouse. They have been in his personal life. Broadcasters can and do talk about the character and behavior of players (like Bradley, Guillen, Sheffield, AJP and many more).

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Jun 12, 2008 7:36 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

On point here

Ryan was commenting on Bradley’s play on the field and how he acts on the field. The comparision to Hamilton’s off the field problems was probably poor. I never heard Ryan say Bradley’s a bad guy or a bad person or a bad father or anything like that.

Talk about thin skin though. Get Bradley some drugs.

by Stook on Jun 12, 2008 7:39 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

And apparently broadcasters are supposed to pretend that players don't have character issues, a long history of behavioral and anger problems

I guess they are just supposed to do the PBP and nothing else.

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Jun 12, 2008 7:41 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Because it is mentioned in an article, it is something broadcasters can/should be talking about?

this is getting really, really silly. If you can’t see the difference between broadcasters talking about players’ behavior on the field and talking about the personal life of other broadcasters, then I don’t know what to say to you. Couldn’t be more different.

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Jun 12, 2008 7:38 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

i see theres a little difference....but explain to me why Ryan had to bring Bradley up at all...

when praising Hamilton. It was just another chance for him to take a potshot at Bradley…something he never misses a chance to do. Praise Hamilton all you want…he overcame immense problems…all of which he created by the way. Would it have been alright for Ryan to make fun of Zack before he got help with his emotional problems?

TPJ...you're dead to me

by billybeingbilly on Jun 12, 2008 7:41 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

'hey...look at that adam laroche...he got himself some aderral for his ADD....

he’s a completely different person…too bad zack hasnt gone down that same path’

TPJ...you're dead to me

by billybeingbilly on Jun 12, 2008 7:45 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Dude the did and still do

make fun of Zack for being a little weird.

by Stook on Jun 12, 2008 7:47 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

a little weird yes....

being suicidal, no

TPJ...you're dead to me

by billybeingbilly on Jun 12, 2008 7:48 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I'm sure they would have if they would have known.

And who knows what kinds of things get said by fans to Zack. I’m sure they are way worse then what is said of Bradley.

by Stook on Jun 12, 2008 7:52 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

now fans and announcers should have the same filter?

i would be fired like 5 times every game for the things i say to players

TPJ...you're dead to me

by billybeingbilly on Jun 12, 2008 7:54 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Ok..this is silly

Bradley’s crazy and needs help. That’s pretty much the end of this.

by Stook on Jun 12, 2008 8:00 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Guillen vs Bradley

I might be wrong but I don’t remember Guillen ever getting into it with fans. Bradley has regularly done that. Dude is a HOT HEAD and to compare him with Guillen is a overreaction. Guillen reacts to his coaches and his teams play.

Billy at worst will be Sean Casey jr.

by kcscoliny on Jun 12, 2008 11:22 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Why did he bring up Bradley?

Because he was playing in the game that Ryan was broadcasting.

It wouldn’t have been ok for any broadcaster to “make fun of Zack.” But Ryan didn’t “make fun of” Bradley. He pointed out that he has problems/issues. It would have been fine for a broadcaster to mention that. And broadcasters frequently do mention Zack’s issues, as well as Guillen’s.

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Jun 12, 2008 8:01 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I don't get why people have a problem with this

Ryan said it, Bradley backed it up by letting it get to him and going to find him. It’s pretty easy to see that Lefebvre was partially right in that Bradley could still use some guidance. That’s it….he didn’t say that he was crazy, he didn’t call him any names, he just said he could learn about “turning it around” from Josh Hamilton. It wouldn’t have been an issue if Bradley didn’t make it one.

by I need more Esteban on Jun 12, 2008 7:31 PM EDT   0 recs

ryan made it one by trashing bradley every chance he gets....

theres something personal involved that none of us know about b/c he doesnt go after every player who loafs on a play or has anger issues like he does with bradley.

TPJ...you're dead to me

by billybeingbilly on Jun 12, 2008 7:33 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

guillen doesnt run out every ground ball...

wheres ryan on those?

TPJ...you're dead to me

by billybeingbilly on Jun 12, 2008 7:34 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

all season? and for the past 10?

he’s never run hard on all of his ground balls…i really dont have a problem with him doing that, but it is loafing just as bradley loafs

TPJ...you're dead to me

by billybeingbilly on Jun 12, 2008 7:35 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Trashing him?

That’s nuts. He made a few very mild comments. It’s the same kinds of things that other broadcasters say about Bradley, Guillen, AJP, Sheffields and others all the time. Of course the guy isn’t going to be very critical of his own team’s players. That’s how broadcasters are. If you think Guillen hasn’t gotten the same kind of comments this year and for years, then you’re really missing something.

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Jun 12, 2008 7:40 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

just because it happens doesnt mean it should....

and mentioning it one time a year would be plenty…ryan never goes an entire game without talking badly about milton bradley…he even talks badly about him when bradleys not even playing in the same city…hes got a vendetta against him for some reason.

TPJ...you're dead to me

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