Real Nicknaming for a Real Royals Blog
Let's get this out of the way: I like Rany Jazayerli. He's a longtime Royals fan. He got Rob Neyer to exchange and publish emails about the team in which Neyer seems to have zero faith and hope for (maybe some love). He makes money removing warts from ugly people. He is one of the Founders of Baseball Prospectus. I get it. He's important. Blah blah blah. Whatever. But exactly who does he think he is, starting a blog, and after just a few months deciding to have the "official" nicknaming contest of Royals internet fandom?

I'm not questioning his loyalty or his important place in on-line Royals fandom. I'm certainly no one to judge such matters. But I do think it is presumptuous for him suddenly decide, after having been cut loose by Rob Neyer, to decide that HE gets to host the nicknaming.
It's too late now. I don't want to get RR involved in a war with a cat who probably has the substances and delivery systems to give us all acne so bad none of us will be able to leave our mothers' basements -- even for a Star Trek convention.
What we can do is to establish some nicknames of our own. However, given the overwhelming enthusiasm for Jazayerli's usurpation, there's no point directly competing with him at this point. Like Michael Bluth in his high school student body presidential election, let's not -- we shouldn't -- do that to the school. I propose that the readers of this blog decide to nickname those players neglected by Dr. Epidermis: the grinders. And here I don't mean well-known bastions of grit like Ross Gload, but those players whom foolish scouts and sabermetricians consider "borderline," but whom we all know are the heart of the team. So, without further ado, let's go over a few players and some suggestions to be gathered up for later polling.
Mike Aviles. Obviously the most crucial issue at this time. We were arguing about what level of greatness he would attain long before his callup, and thus we get dibs on the most recent KC sensation that some fans might want to engage in some... questionable interactions. Sure, he might turn out to be the next Bo Hart, but I think we all know better -- it's only a matter of time before this offensive juggernaut takes over the the airwaves at the always-ready-to-jump-on-a-story-from-the-flyovers Wordwide Leader. Possibilities:
- My initial thought was "Off the Table," but, as was pointed out to me by NYRoyal, this is too abstract (although I think NYRoyal is also afraid that it might be too true!).
- NYRoyal seems to be pimping for "El Salvador," which is nice, and, again seems true. I accidentally modified this into "El Salvatore," which is actually Italian, and everyone knows that Italians make up the historically grittiest baseball ethnic group (Dimaggio, Rizzuto, Fasano...). "El Salvatore" does have some questionable connotations. In general, there could be any number of "saviors" running around in the system or the draft pool. Besides, NYRoyal already came up with the Royals Confidence Index, GRIT (although this will eventually be superseded by ERSTAD) and its offshoots, and he never lets us have fun overreacting (Moore is dooming teh franchise!!!111). But it's up to the people.
- I believe that buddyball was the first to suggest "The Missing Link." Great evolution reference, and also recalls one of my favorite WCCW wrestlers from the early 1980s. Not bad, but, again, anyone could be the Missing Link -- Shealy seems to swing like someone lower down the evolutionary tree.
- My personal favorite is my own idea, naturally: Avilanche. It sounds vaguely wrestling related, but not directly. It might also be taken to reflect a slightly pudgy built (Ronnie Belliard-pudgy, not Cal Pickering-esque massiveness). Plus, it is name-derived (in your face Rany !!!!1111one!). It also has the advantage of actually sounding like a nickname, might refer to an "avilanche" of hits.
Shane Costa. All I can think of it our fearless host's own wonderful "Costa Now! " One of the great AAA Grinders of our time. He even got name-checked by Bill "Sports Guy" Simmons a couple of years back. Shane is a man of wisdom, as evidenced by his myspace page : "not much to say about myself... im a pretty laid back dude..i play a game for a living, so i like to work hard. Im a big believer in if u work hard for what u want<< u just never know.. i value my family and friends, and have learned that what goes around comes around...so if u want to know anything else....find out for urself.." Another reason that Aviles might not be the best choice for "El Salvadore/tore," check out this picture (suitable for devotional use):
Jeff Fulchino. So many possibilities. Easy name-derived fun: Mother-Fulcher. Fuchlie! Fulchiroonie. My favorite: Jeff "I'll Bet You Didn't Even Know I Was On The Roster" Fulchino. I think "Big Head Jeff" came up at one point. Here he is chillin' with an Isotopes' fan (I believe):
Ramón Santo Ramírez. Ok, I forgot this in the original post, but always mean to have him in here. NHZ originally started the "this guy needs a nickname" train (we can all blame Rany for Nunez getting hurt since the injury came not long after putting him in the list of guys needing nicknames). NHZ's original idea, that he's still sticking with, is Super Captain Laser Hero. Other ideas include marbotty's inexplicably hilarious "Car RamRod" (and variations), Eppenweb's (and others') simple but effective "Ram Ram," and my own "Mon Ram," (meh, I like it, but it won't catch on). How 'bout "Mony?" Super obnoxious, but original and different. We could also go for something about how hesgoodbuthecantclosebecauseheisntaprovencloser or something, since we all know that 7 is different from 9 .
Justin Huber. Oh, the humanity! What hath Dayton wrought? St. Justin may be a Padre for now (or not, I haven't checked the transaction wire lately). But he will always be loyal in our hearts. He is probably the best choice for some sort of "Savior" name, since we all hope he will come again. Suggestions are welcome here. And on all of these and more, for that matter.
So, that's it. Let's take our task seriously, and sift through some of this stuff before voting and definitively showing Dr. ZitQA his place.
Update, Friday, June 20, 2008 -- It Begins: I've posted the Aviles poll. I’ll try to put up a new poll ever 5 days or so to give a good window for everyone to vote. I hope we can keep this post around as a “gathering place” for suggestions, as there aren’t nearly enough yet, even for the grinders. I also think that we should at least start gathering suggestions right here for the whole roster - the longer Rany waits, the more of the roster we will “claim.” I’m tempted to make Jose Guillen the next poll -- a shot across the bow, as it were (as if “taking” Aviles wasn’t enough). Please offer suggestions, whether it’s nickname nominations for those not voted on yet, or how to better organize this thing.
Update, Thursday, June 26, 2008. In the first poll, MIke Aviles has been nicknamed "Avilanche." I'll let NHZ, NYRoyal, and the rest think of appropriate enforcements... Tpoll thread and results can be viewed here (I pretty sure I managed to close the poll). I'm working on the next poll now, keep the ideas coming (although we may have to switch to another post/thread soon in order to keep it "up top").
Update, Sunday, June 29, 2008. The Jose Guillen Poll is up. Get to it.
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Multiple nicknames
I would argue that we don’t have to choose between “Off the Table,” “El Salvador” (there’s no “e”) and “The Missing Link,” and “Avilanche.” They are all good, and appropriate. More importantly, great players often have multiple nicknames. Ted Williams had at least four nicknames (The Kid, The Thumper, The Splendid Splinter, and Teddy Ballgame). And isn’t Aviles at least 3/4ths as good as Ted Williams?
This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.
by NYRoyal on Jun 17, 2008 2:00 PM EDT 0 recs
Edited to make me look slightly less stupid
I’m with you on the Williams comparison, isn’t that a bad precedent for our boy? I mean, Williams wasn’t exactly popular in his day with the Boston fans (A-Rod comparison would be appropriate, but was Williams genuinely an a-hole?).
OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG
by devil_fingers on
Jun 17, 2008 2:21 PM EDT
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Aviles needs to learn from Teddy Nickname
He just needs to tip his cap to the fans and all will be well
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by NYRoyal on
Jun 17, 2008 2:24 PM EDT
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I meant "wasn't Williams genuinely an a-hole?"
OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG
by devil_fingers on
Jun 17, 2008 2:25 PM EDT
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He was conceited and didn't give a damn about the fans...at least while he was a player
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by NYRoyal on
Jun 17, 2008 2:26 PM EDT
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I remember wasting time in a library a few years back
and reading bios of both Williams and Mantle. Williams came off as a real jerk (obviously, he was still an unbelievable player) who mellowed out after retirement (hence the rose-colored glasses on his playing days, especially from Boston fans), whereas Mantle seemed like a surly, chauvinist a-hole after retirement. Maybe that’s unfair—I didn’t know personally like Bob Costas and whatnot, and I don’t mean to judge the man’s entire character, but, geez.
then there is Pete Rose, who comes off as an asshole in his own books about himself.
OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG
by devil_fingers on
Jun 17, 2008 2:32 PM EDT
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there has been some good stuff written about williams
... can’t remember the titles now… but from back in the 80s, when he hadn’t been canonized
seems like a fascinating guy, almost like Bob Knight, who, despite lots of good qualities, just can’t resist being obnoxious and rude as hell to people for no reason
by royalsreview on
Jun 17, 2008 2:35 PM EDT
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Pretty much a disaster as a manager, wasn't he?
I seem to remember reading that he couldn’t understand why his hitters weren’t as good as he was.
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by RoyalsRetro on
Jun 17, 2008 2:40 PM EDT
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It was more that he couldn't
handle managing teams which, frankly, sucked balls. Kinda like Davey Johnson.
Sarcasmâ„¢. It's the new gravy.
by jonfmorse on
Jun 17, 2008 5:19 PM EDT
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Mantle
I think the deal with Mantle is that after he retired, his drinking problem really took off. And, like many alcoholics (he admitted to being an alcoholic), he wasn’t so friendly when he was drunk. So, most of the time, he was either an angry drunk or angry that wasn’t drinking at the moment. Near the end of his life, he figured some things out, got his alcohol problem under control and became a pretty nice guy.
This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.
by NYRoyal on
Jun 17, 2008 2:48 PM EDT
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I had no idea that's what Rany looked like
The first time I saw Will Carroll, Jim Callis, and even Rob Neyer, I was pretty disappointed. I don’t know what I expected them to look like. Nate Silver, on the other hand, actually looks pretty cool.
“Avilanche” is pretty good. I’ve been going with “Awesome Aviles”, but that’s not particularly creative.
Joey Gathright is Joey Jo-Jo Jr. Shabadoo or Sir Jumps-a-Lot.
Kyle Davies – Davies Strikeout, King of the Wild Frontier. Wow, that is lame. How bout “Hiram”?
Jose Guillen – Captain Shenanigans? Team Baby Inspector?
John Bale – Rocky
I like that “scissoring” is a tag. Well done!
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by RoyalsRetro on Jun 17, 2008 2:08 PM EDT 0 recs
Team Baby Inspector is good
I guess something like The Pediatrician might also work, but may be too complicated
by royalsreview on
Jun 17, 2008 2:21 PM EDT
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how about "The Nanny"?
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by buddyball on
Jun 19, 2008 3:08 PM EDT
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i was thinking the same thing
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by marbotty on
Jun 19, 2008 5:32 PM EDT
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Neyer
Doesn’t look so silly, but, and I fell terrible saying this, really, his voice is just, um, not so great. I think there was a really bad lisp. By itself, this probably set back the sabermetric revolution 3-5 years when baseball execs heard it.
OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG
by devil_fingers on
Jun 17, 2008 2:28 PM EDT
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Yeah, his speech impediment makes him a poor radio or TV guy
It’s not quite a lisp, I don’t think, but some kind of odd halting way of speaking which doesn’t allow him to get any sentence out smoothly.
This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.
by NYRoyal on
Jun 17, 2008 2:49 PM EDT
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Wow, changing the "post time" when editing really messes things up
Doesn’t list the full comments and whatnot. Wish I could change it back to the original time.
OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG
by devil_fingers on Jun 17, 2008 2:24 PM EDT 0 recs
The only nickname I've come up with that I really like
“Slappy Joe” Gathright
This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.
by NYRoyal on Jun 17, 2008 2:24 PM EDT 0 recs
Slappy Joe
is great
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by marbotty on
Jun 18, 2008 1:15 AM EDT
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Im a big believer in if u work hard for what u want<< u just never know..
by royalsreview on Jun 17, 2008 2:37 PM EDT 0 recs
Shane Costa
14 year old girl in disguise?
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by RoyalsRetro on
Jun 17, 2008 2:40 PM EDT
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Okay, explain yourself.
How does “the undead” factor into this post? :P
We ought to just do a bunch of polls to establish the RR-sanctioned nicknames. I like Rany and all, but we don’t have to pay fealty to him. We are our own nation of nicknaming nitwits (I like alliteration).
So…polls! Polls! Polls, anyone?
A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.
by NHZ on Jun 17, 2008 3:32 PM EDT 0 recs
Let's get the nominees in and then post the polls
I’m concerned about posting a number of polls for these players—won’t that push all the other posts down? Or should we do like one a week for a while?
I say we stick with the grinders, though.
(I guess Huber doesn’t count as undead—he just hasn’t risen again, yet. We’ve had the sabermetric Good Friday, which awaits the gritty Easter Sunday, to borrow a phrase from Hegel.)
OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG
by devil_fingers on
Jun 17, 2008 3:39 PM EDT
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Yes, I would stagger the posts/polls
One every 5-7 days or so.
This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.
by NYRoyal on
Jun 17, 2008 3:42 PM EDT
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I think we could make that work
of course, we’d better do it fast before everyone gets DFA’d. :P
Anyway, so do we do a nickname nomination fanpost? Or is that what this is?
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by NHZ on
Jun 17, 2008 3:45 PM EDT
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Yeah, I think this should be the ideas/nominations post
Everybody kicks in their ideas and we can use any good ones we’ve found elsewhere. Once we’ve got enough, we can start doing the polls one player at a time.
And then, whichever nickname gets the most votes becomes the player’s official nickname. The use of any other nickname for that player puts the poster on probation. Second offense is a one-week suspension. Third offense is a one-month suspension. Fourth offense is permanent banishment. This place needs some law and order.
This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.
by NYRoyal on
Jun 17, 2008 3:48 PM EDT
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I agree in principle
but I think the suspensions aren’t enough. I propose we’ll some kind of illegal torture methods based on “batting average is the best stat” immersion, the undead, and analgoes.
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by NHZ on
Jun 17, 2008 3:54 PM EDT
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And shortened sentences for posters with high FanGRIT
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by NYRoyal on
Jun 17, 2008 4:14 PM EDT
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Yeah, I meant it to be the nominations post
OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG
by devil_fingers on
Jun 17, 2008 4:01 PM EDT
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That, and a post of a pretty hilarious picture of Rany
(don’t hurt me, please, Dr. Acne!)
OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG
by devil_fingers on
Jun 17, 2008 4:01 PM EDT
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Pimple Popper, MD!
(thank you, Seinfeld)
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by NYRoyal on
Jun 17, 2008 4:14 PM EDT
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Oh, but he has
dude ALMOST has a 100 OPS+!
(NYRoyal, you are going to eat some serious crow if he ever manages to OBP .340!!!!oneoneone)
A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.
by NHZ on
Jun 17, 2008 3:43 PM EDT
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Indeed
I’m praying for regression
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by NYRoyal on
Jun 17, 2008 3:49 PM EDT
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Never!
My hero is just getting better and betterer.
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by NHZ on
Jun 17, 2008 3:55 PM EDT
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Maybe the Royals can get him back to platoon in left with Lubanski
Hube and Lube!
OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG
by devil_fingers on
Jun 17, 2008 4:04 PM EDT
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And then have
Billy “Butts” Butler spot start out there…
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by NHZ on
Jun 17, 2008 4:06 PM EDT
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When Hube meets Butts, he's going to need Lube there
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by NYRoyal on
Jun 17, 2008 4:15 PM EDT
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Right.
But no one fucks with DeJesus.
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by NHZ on
Jun 17, 2008 4:18 PM EDT
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That's not what I hear
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by NYRoyal on
Jun 17, 2008 4:19 PM EDT
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But it was his dugout
screenname!
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by NHZ on
Jun 17, 2008 4:31 PM EDT
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Anyways,
I have to nominate Super Captain Laser Hero for Ramon Ramirez, and make an accompanying picture with MSPaint.
A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.
by NHZ on Jun 17, 2008 4:07 PM EDT 0 recs
Shoot
I forgot that I was doing to add a whole section on him. Is it too late to edit?
OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG
by devil_fingers on
Jun 17, 2008 4:12 PM EDT
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It's never too late
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by NYRoyal on
Jun 17, 2008 4:15 PM EDT
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As Michael Scott told Jim,
“Never ever, ever, ever give up.”
A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.
by NHZ on
Jun 17, 2008 4:17 PM EDT
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Done
OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG
by devil_fingers on
Jun 17, 2008 4:31 PM EDT
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More on Gathright
In addition to “Slappy Joe,” I would also like to add “Gritright” and “Gathwrong”
Sometimes these things just write themselves.
And I’ve always like “Ross Choad”. Its not the most common slang word, but it is appropriate for him.
This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.
by NYRoyal on Jun 17, 2008 4:16 PM EDT 0 recs
I personally love the "G-Load" one.
Another inexplicably hilarious suggestion.
But I’m not sure he fits the criteria for “our” election.
OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG
by devil_fingers on
Jun 17, 2008 4:32 PM EDT
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Gafferight
Nobody will celebrate harder when the Royals make the playoffs!!
by juano on
Jun 17, 2008 4:47 PM EDT
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Buntright
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by NYRoyal on
Jun 17, 2008 4:49 PM EDT
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Look to the Negro Leagues for inspiration...
NICKNAMES/DISCONTENT ON THE MOONLIT HIGHWAY
“One place where the Negro Leagues had the white majors completely beaten was in the nickname department. In addition to Satchel Paige, Cool Papa Bell, and Double-Duty Radcliffe there was Jelly Gardner, Ready Cash, Spoony Palm, Groundhog Thompson, Honey Lott, Cleveland Clark, Ace Adams, True Heart Ferrell, Copperknee Thompson, Steelarm Davis, Cannonball Redding, Dolly Gray, Turkey Stearns, King Tutt, Scrappy Brown, Tank Carr, Possum Poles, Bunny Downs, Rats Henderson, Bullet Joe Rogan, and many, many more.”
Nobody will celebrate harder when the Royals make the playoffs!!
by juano on Jun 17, 2008 5:01 PM EDT 0 recs
wow!
those are fantastic nicknames…that’s poetry right there
by JSoria on
Jun 17, 2008 6:59 PM EDT
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don't forget

aka Jose Guillen
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by marbotty on Jun 18, 2008 1:18 AM EDT 0 recs
Manwich and Sloppy Joe in the same lineup
I love it.
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by NYRoyal on
Jun 18, 2008 1:24 AM EDT
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That should be Slappy Joe
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by NYRoyal on
Jun 18, 2008 1:24 AM EDT
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+1 on Manwich
That’s yours, right marbotty? I’m not sure whether we should do the “big ‘uns” or not. It would be pretty funny if we got them done before Rany, then flooded his comments if his own polls came out differently…
OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG
by devil_fingers on
Jun 18, 2008 1:34 AM EDT
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yeah
I came up with a bunch for Rany’s thing. This was perhaps the simplest and best. (Also submitted: $36 million Manwich).
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by marbotty on
Jun 18, 2008 2:12 AM EDT
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Happy with Guillen's production yet?
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by NYRoyal on
Jun 18, 2008 2:26 AM EDT
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well, my first choice was Andruw Jones, so...
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by marbotty on
Jun 18, 2008 2:29 AM EDT
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I was all for signing him too
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by NYRoyal on
Jun 18, 2008 3:07 AM EDT
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Nya-ha!
He was just about the last guy I wanted to see on the Royals.
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by NHZ on
Jun 18, 2008 4:35 PM EDT
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whoops missed this line
I propose that the readers of this blog decide to nickname those players neglected by Dr. Epidermis: the grinders.
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by marbotty on
Jun 18, 2008 2:23 AM EDT
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Isn't A Man Witch
A Warlock?
I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.
by philofthenorth on
Jun 18, 2008 11:08 AM EDT
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is he made of wood?
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by marbotty on
Jun 18, 2008 3:24 PM EDT
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There's only one way to find out
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by NYRoyal on
Jun 18, 2008 3:40 PM EDT
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throw him in the pond!
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by juano on
Jun 18, 2008 4:55 PM EDT
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No, all you need to do is weigh him and a duck
If they weigh the same amount, he’s a warlock, and then you must burn him.
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by NYRoyal on
Jun 18, 2008 4:58 PM EDT
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Mike Aviles
turned me into a newt.
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by NHZ on
Jun 18, 2008 5:02 PM EDT
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that's right...because very small rocks float as well
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by juano on
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Came up with a few
Guillen – “Samsonite”. He’s capable of carrying his teammates, but also has a reputation of having a lot of baggage.
Aviles – “Lunchbox”.
Tomko – “Knapsack”. Because he’s homeless. Again.
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