Game 75 Open Thread - Giants at Royals
by Freneau on Jun 21, 2008 5:45 PM EDT
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Kevin Correia (5.17 ERA) versus The Epic (5.12 ERA) tonight at the K, as the Royals try to get back on the winning train.
I'll be at my high school reunion tonight, feeling like a failure and being awkward. The Game Thread is in your able hands.
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Reunions suck
I went to mine two years ago. Waste of time.
Speaking of reunions, Brett Tomko is reunited with his couch. He was placed on unconditional waivers last night.
Relive Royals History at royalsretro.blogspot.com
At Will's Reunion?
I’ll probably be at Wyandotte’s 35 year Class Of ‘73 reunion in September. I didn’t graduate from there, but I went to school with the people that did until I moved to Topeka. I barely know most of the Topeka West Class of ‘73. I hope to make a game or two, too.
I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.
by philofthenorth on Jun 21, 2008 7:27 PM EDT up reply actions
gload...
what are the odds he starts again tonight?
what’s the over / under on how many games until
A. he hits a double
B. he runs out a gritty single
C. a roster move is made involving him
i'll give mine
80%
A. 5 games (that he plays in)
B. 2 games (that he plays in)
C. 45 days (i’m not sure if that’s hopeful / pessimistic or idiotic)
mine..
95% chance tonight
A. 1 Game (He’s due tonight)
B. Tonight (big game for gload)
C. Never! muahahhaa we keep him forever muhahaha
this DRays season could be fantastic...
both the Sox and the Yankees could miss the playoffs
i dont understand
why grudz should be in the 5 hole? when he was doing well at batting 2nd.. besides aviles would be a much better 5 hitter.. more power that is..
they have won with Grudz at the grittiest spot in the line-up
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did I ever tell you
Your avatar scares the living crap out of me? Like looking at a ghost.
Pecota, watch over us.
Chris McCandless, Boogerhead
To the stars.
I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.
by philofthenorth on Jun 21, 2008 7:36 PM EDT up reply actions
I find little sympathy for people
who do really stupid things.
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specialized stat quesiton of the night
what is the Royals record on bobble-head nights?
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Aviles just really impressed me.
The chatter here on RR the past couple of days has basically said that his biggest hole, right now, is the breaking ball low-and-away. Pitchers are starting to develop the book on him, and that is to throw breaking balls low-and-away, where he has seemed lost at times (as do most MLB hitters).
And today, he took a low-and-away off-speed pitch and just went with it, poking it over the second basemen’s head. If that is a longterm adjustment, and he can start getting hits off of the low-and-away stuff, then he will have a better chance at sticking as a SS longterm, obviously.
Just wanted to say that his last plate approach really impressed me…
And again.
This time it was a FB, but it was again away and he just went with it the other way.
Double.
His approach, right now, is one that should be able to stick longterm.
As unlikely as it seemed just a week ago, we just may have found our SS for 2009 and beyond, if he can continue to adjust to the pitchers’ adjustments and etc.
Olivo Is Tailspinning
On the bench tonight.
D. DeJesus lf 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 .306
M. Aviles ss 1 0 1 0 0 0 0 .321
A. Gordon 3b 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 .268
J. Guillen dh 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .286
M. Grudzielanek 2b 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .307
M. Teahen rf 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .260
J. Buck c 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .249
R. Gload 1b 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .234
J. Gathright cf 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .249
Totals 1 0 1 0 2 0 0
I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.
Nice first three innings for Meche
We really can’t be complaining about our starting pitching these days.
into the wild was such a good book
i’ve scared to watch the movie. have you read the rest of krakauers stuff?
The first thing I know about someone in a KC hat is that they're loyal.
freakin' great
highly rec Under the Banner of Heaven. unless you’re a fundamentalist mormon, in which case, you should probably read it anyway.
The first thing I know about someone in a KC hat is that they're loyal.
Into the Wild
I absolutely loved the book, and I saw the movie…It was a solid movie, just not great compared to the book
How long until this is real?
Wouldn’t it be awesome if we truly had a good hitting shortstop?
Pecota, watch over us.
i'm so insanely glad
this is happening. i’m so insanely scared that he’ll he-who-must-not-be-named us, though.
The first thing I know about someone in a KC hat is that they're loyal.
True
I don’t know if this franchise will ever trust surprisingly good shortstops ever again.
Pecota, watch over us.
i don't know if this franchise
will ever trust again.
The first thing I know about someone in a KC hat is that they're loyal.
ouch
suprisingly lacking in grit
The first thing I know about someone in a KC hat is that they're loyal.
a gloadie explodie!!!
Rossie hits a double?
I think Gator is going yard now!!!
The concept of progress acts as a protective mechanism to shield us from the terrors of the future. - Collected sayings of Muad'Dib
well
a walk is almost as unusual
The concept of progress acts as a protective mechanism to shield us from the terrors of the future. - Collected sayings of Muad'Dib
The Missing Link
continues his Cindarella story (I hope)
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Have I mentioned my man crush on Aviles?
Sure am glad he’s been in AAA all year.
You can't triple stamp a double stamp
Mike Aviles- A
Huge stud or the hugest stud?
I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.
at the very least, the grittiest stud
That was some big-time grit Aviles showed.
Just in case...
Don’t jinx Meche if he gets closer…
I'm just glad it is him
and not TPJ up there at bat
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Just checking in tonight
Aviles does it again. I was thinking he has probably seen Correira in AAA at one time or another. Clutch two hit! I’m so use to non production from SS, I don’t know what to do with 9 RBIs in that position
yeah, i feel bad for the guy
but credit where credit is due-that was a hell of a catch by Winn-if he misses that, it is a surefire 2-run triple for Gordon.
I guess they are winning for the most part
with this line-up, so go with it. Balance of higher average (Grudz) vs. more RBI potential (Teabag). I don’t pretend to understand why it seems to be working…
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He's The Leadoff
Hitter for the second half of the lineup.
I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.
by philofthenorth on Jun 21, 2008 9:07 PM EDT up reply actions
last inning for Meche?
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crap, crap, crap
Meche loses shutout, but has nobody to blame but himself
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doesn't he need 6 full innings?
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I Said A
Bad word.
I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.
by philofthenorth on Jun 21, 2008 9:04 PM EDT up reply actions
herring?
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No
I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.
by philofthenorth on Jun 21, 2008 9:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Not That Bad!!!
I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.
by philofthenorth on Jun 21, 2008 9:08 PM EDT up reply actions
buddy?
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Lalalala I Can't
Hear you.
I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.
by philofthenorth on Jun 21, 2008 9:11 PM EDT up reply actions
does it rhyme with
bloody hell?
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May-day!
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poop
i ate dinner, come back to two runs for them and a non-savior-like moment from aviles
The first thing I know about someone in a KC hat is that they're loyal.
the lesson?
no food till october.
The first thing I know about someone in a KC hat is that they're loyal.
hmmmm
no ball hit out of the infield
I hope we haven’t shut it down again
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I had forgotten that the 6th was the Sonic Slam inning
they are saving Sonic money by not even threatening to hit a homer (out of the park of course)
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Gordo has such a faster swing
than Teabag
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Hey all
Ugh…high school reunion day? I dunno if I’ll ever attend one of those.
A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.
Me neither
...but my high school class’s reunion is coming up next year. The suspense of whether or not I decide to go is killing me…
Yeah
seeing as I don’t give a fuck about the majority of my high school class (we only had 80 people or so)...I really doubt it.
A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.
I don't even know a majority of my high school class
...we graduated about 450 in my year.
It isn’t that I hate my class or anything, I just will likely be too lazy to fly in from Cali for something like a reunion.
See, for me
is has more to do with the fact that I break out into hives as soon as I set foot in my old, shitty small town where I went to high school.
A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.
That is an unfortunate affliction
Maybe that is how DDJ got hives earlier this year…he went to a reunion….hmmmm. I suspect foul play…
Maybe Gathright
told him to go to the reunion, causing the hives, and giving Joey more PT!!!?
A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.
I have avoided it so far
I did go to a reunion of people who were in graduate school with me about 5 years ago and it was a blast. But, I had much more in common with them than 99% of my high school class. I guess since I moved away, I’m not trapped in that environment like some of my old friends. When I do see them, it is like they never left high school. I find that somehow sad.
The concept of progress acts as a protective mechanism to shield us from the terrors of the future. - Collected sayings of Muad'Dib
i'm not happy about that part
but there are several old friends that i’d like to see all at once. we occasionally get together at weddings and funerals, but we live all over the place. plus, i wanna get loaded in front the above mentioned people and stun them with my wit.
The first thing I know about someone in a KC hat is that they're loyal.
well sure
who wouldn’t? I do still have a couple of friends I get together with when I go home, but I don’t keep in close contact them otherwise.
The concept of progress acts as a protective mechanism to shield us from the terrors of the future. - Collected sayings of Muad'Dib
Big Boy Hit!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The concept of progress acts as a protective mechanism to shield us from the terrors of the future. - Collected sayings of Muad'Dib
that'll learn them babies
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Wooooo Guillen
It sure was considerate of Aviles to fly out, or else we’d have a four-run game and wouldn’t get to watch Mexituff make the Giants hitters look silly.
rally killing bastard
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it could have been lower
if he could throw to second base
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that's a relief...
The concept of progress acts as a protective mechanism to shield us from the terrors of the future. - Collected sayings of Muad'Dib
We've Drawn 6
Walks tonight? Who are these imposters in blue?
I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.
buncha base-clogging lazy people
who don’t want to be aggressive, that’s who
Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.
wow, Teahen hit it to the opposite field
what a shocker
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On The Ground
To 2B….......with a runner on 1B…......and one out.
I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.
by philofthenorth on Jun 21, 2008 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions
situational hitting
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Ram Rod
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it's strategery
to clog the basepaths
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We must keep the game close enough
for a save, I guess.
A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.
please, no more discussions about those
The concept of progress acts as a protective mechanism to shield us from the terrors of the future. - Collected sayings of Muad'Dib
I've been trying to forget the discussion of
Harang’s facial growth
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Did Gator drop that?
The concept of progress acts as a protective mechanism to shield us from the terrors of the future. - Collected sayings of Muad'Dib
good luck, team.
ima go play music. hopefully the bar’ll have an ice cold soria waiting for me.
The first thing I know about someone in a KC hat is that they're loyal.
I hope it is a smokin' hot Soria
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no
The concept of progress acts as a protective mechanism to shield us from the terrors of the future. - Collected sayings of Muad'Dib
NOOOOOOOOO!
The concept of progress acts as a protective mechanism to shield us from the terrors of the future. - Collected sayings of Muad'Dib
you need to give up those smokes
The concept of progress acts as a protective mechanism to shield us from the terrors of the future. - Collected sayings of Muad'Dib
You mean that wasn't a long enough "Nooooo"?
Let’s try again.
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOooooooo-(breath)-OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOooooooooo!!!111
A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.
that's what (blank) (blank)
The concept of progress acts as a protective mechanism to shield us from the terrors of the future. - Collected sayings of Muad'Dib
Oh, what did she say?
Was it
A-”You mean that wasn’t a long enough ‘Nooo’?”
B-Let’s try again.
C-NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOooooooo-(breath)-OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOooooooooo!!!111
D-All of the above.
A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.
E- wake up, you're having that dream again
The concept of progress acts as a protective mechanism to shield us from the terrors of the future. - Collected sayings of Muad'Dib
that's what she said
The concept of progress acts as a protective mechanism to shield us from the terrors of the future. - Collected sayings of Muad'Dib
You know what,
she would’ve been a good woman if someone had shot her every day of her life.
A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.
ok, it's Soria time, baby!
The concept of progress acts as a protective mechanism to shield us from the terrors of the future. - Collected sayings of Muad'Dib
and out #1
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this
not thid. I don’t think thid is a word unless someone punches you in the nose.
A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.
+1
I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.
by philofthenorth on Jun 22, 2008 12:51 AM EDT up reply actions
or plays scrabble with you
The concept of progress acts as a protective mechanism to shield us from the terrors of the future. - Collected sayings of Muad'Dib
Rich, swing harder
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yes, you are right
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Mexi-Tuff!!!!!!!!
the start of a new streak!
The concept of progress acts as a protective mechanism to shield us from the terrors of the future. - Collected sayings of Muad'Dib
how can you say that
are you a hater?
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is it Hiram tomorrow?
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then, you can put it in the book!
The concept of progress acts as a protective mechanism to shield us from the terrors of the future. - Collected sayings of Muad'Dib
but, but the Royals are H-O-T hot
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I don't know if it will be
It depends on how quickly we can get into the Giants’ pen. Lincecum is kept on a pretty tight leash—he’s only gone over 110 pitches twice this year. Running up the opposing starter’s pitch count hasn’t been our forte, but if we can chase Lincecum out of there after six innings, we may have an alright shot.
It also depends on how many walks Davies passes out tomorrow—if they’re going like party favors, we may be in for a long game.
some great comments on soria from the giant fans:
“1.41 ERA = DOOM & the Peripherals to match”
“yikes”
“What a lousy swing rich”
“How the hell do you hit this guy?”
hee hee
"How the hell do you hit this guy?"
You don’t.
It’s really awesome to have a pitcher like Joakim around. Even with the team 10 under…he still rules.
A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.
this is why I hope they keep him in the bullpen
take your shot NYRoyal…
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Here's my shot
Wouldn’t you rather have him dominating for 180+ innings instead of 75 innings? The reality is that closer innings aren’t extremely high leverage innings, so the importance of those 75 innings does not outweigh the value of a starters 180+ innings.
This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.
by Scott McKinney on Jun 21, 2008 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions
but he can have a positive impact on many more games
as closer than as a starter
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Most of those games are either low leverage situations or games in which another pitcher would have converted the Save
If he’s a good SP (not even a great one), the Royals would win more games with him in the rotation than as a closer.
This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.
by Scott McKinney on Jun 21, 2008 11:24 PM EDT up reply actions
While I wholeheartedly agree that, yes, he should be moved to the rotation...
Tonight was the strongest evidence I’ve seen yet for why he should stay as closer. With only a 2 run lead, going into the 9th the K was rocking. The looping curve was ‘ON’ big-time tonight, and the crowd shots on FSNKC were quite funny. People were mocking the Giants’ futile swings in the stands, and despite the game being a relatively close one, with the tying deck always in the on-deck circle, everyone acted like we had already won.
Hell, FSNKC went down to Joel Goldberg with two outs left and talked about what the Royals postgame would be like “after a Royals win”. They tried to preface it with the usual “If they hang on”, but it was more-than-obvious that they fully expected for the Mexicutioner to close things down.
And I’ve gotta admit, it was pretty awesome knowing that the game was over, along with almost every other Royals fan, as well as the Giants’ fans. While many people overrate the psychological effects of baseball, there is certainly something to be said for basically being assured a win if you go into the 9th with a lead.
So, there is my argument for why he should stay in the bullpen. I completely want him to be moved into the rotation for next year, 180 > 75, but I think that if there was a argument to be made for him to stay, it would be that, especially with what should be a fairly young ball club with fairly young starters. Now, if someone like RamRod or Leo the Kid can come in and at least approach Soria, then that would ease much of the psychological scars. But even if not, as long as some can passably get the job done, I say move Soria to the rotation.
The reason why Joel Goldberg said if they hang on is because...
He jinxed them on that twins game when they scored like 5 to tie it.. so he doesnt say “After the royals win we will have so and so on the postgame show”
Yasuhiko Yabuta is to Major League Baseball as Drew Carey is to The Price is Right
Ryan and Split were even talking about that a little
Split was saying something along the lines of, “You see the scouting report on Soria and it says his fastball is 90-91 mph, and you think, no problem…and then you try to hit it, and it feels like 96.”
Soria doesn't even throw all six of them
...he doesn’t need to.
My personal favorite comment on Soria from the Giants SB blog: ”...and us duscovering [sic] just how much of a badass the Royals closer is.”
My personal favorite:
“this is the first time I’ve watched him. Best stuff I’ve seen this season.”
I guess Soria really is a secret that most of MLB (at least the NL) doesn’t know about.
If he played in NY, on the other hand…
comparisons in what capacity?
Rivera is all about the cut fastball, Soria relies more on his slider and curveball in addition to the fastball.
Badda bing,
badda boom.
New winning streak coming up!
(this is also what she said)
A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.
Great win!
As long as we’re at .500 by the end of the year, the 2008 season should be considered a success by any measure: new manager, new #4 hitter, 2 new starters, etc.
I’m not going to lie: I’m still basking in the glow of the Cardinal sweep. That alone should ensure Hillman of at least two more seasons. – TL
One more thing:...
...What I liked the best about this game was the 6 walks we took—-3 by Gordon alone. Good stuff. – TL
This is a little late...
...but I just want to say thank you to the Royals for coming to St. Louis and getting a sweep. As a lifelong KC fan now living in St. Louis (for reasons I won’t get into), I got a ton of sick pleasure listening to all of the Cards radio talk bemoaning their pitiful offensive performance. Any vengeance I can get after being one of the very few Royals fans living in Columbia, MO in ‘85 when I was in fifth grade is very much appreciated!
Cool, jbrocato...
...I’m glad I’m not the only one around these parts! In about two and a half years here, I’ve only seen one person with a KC hat, and one dude with one of those “Royals: best farm team for MLB” types of shirts (so clever these Cards fans!). Once I stopped at a bar and asked if they had the Chiefs game on, and a couple of people looked at me like I was loony or something! Anyway, here’s hoping we sweep ‘em again at the K!!!
by No Coast Nate on Jun 22, 2008 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions
I have attended all 21 regular season Royals games in STL
and sweeping the Cardinals is always fun!
That's sweet!
I’ve been to several Royals games, as well as Cardinals games, but have yet to see them square off against one another. Maybe one day!
Perhaps you’re a lucky charm for KC?
Oops...
that should have been a reply, not a new comment.
by No Coast Nate on Jun 23, 2008 12:35 AM EDT up reply actions
The Royals are 4-2 when I've attended in 2008
Lost 2 games in Chicago
Defeated Texas at home
Swept all 3 in St. Louis
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