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Royals claim P Robinson Tejeda off waivers

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The Royals have claimed P Robinson Tejeda off waivers from the Texas Rangers. To make room on the 40 man roster, they have transferred P John Bale from the 15 day DL to the 60 day DL. They will have to make a 25 man roster move before tonight's game.

Robinson Tejeda Baseball Reference Stats

Tejeda is a 26 year old right hander in his fourth season. He has a 5.01 ERA in 260 2/3 innings pitched. He posted a 3.57 ERA his rookie season with Philadelphia, but control problems have plagued him and he posted a 6.61 ERA last year with Texas. In four relief appearances this year, he gave up six runs in six innings with five walks and four strikeouts.

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Robinson's acceptance of Jesus Christ as his Lord and savior made him an attractive candidate for the Royals pitching staff

Seems like a decent guy to take a flyer on. If he can work out his command, he can be a decent long reliever. He's still youngish and can start or relieve. Ho-Ram might be the odd man out.

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Let's Hope Ho-Ram

Is not the victim of this move. He deserves a chance to get his ERA up to, say, 27.00 or higher so he’ll have one of those really ridiculous stat lines at Baseball Reference..

I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.

by philofthenorth on Jun 24, 2008 3:08 PM EDT   0 recs

Im actually thinking Joel Peralta will be the odd man out

Yasuhiko Yabuta is to Major League Baseball as Drew Carey is to The Price is Right

by focs on Jun 24, 2008 3:14 PM EDT   0 recs

Do we know that he's going to be added to the 25-man roster?

Brayan Pena was on the 25-man roster on paper for a few hours too.

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Jun 24, 2008 3:19 PM EDT   0 recs

According to the press release

He’ll be added to the 25 man roster, but it may just be a paperwork thing like Brayan.

I think Tejeda is better than Ho-Ram, so I actually hope he gets added.

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by RoyalsRetro on Jun 24, 2008 3:22 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I think its because you despise Ho-ram..

I think peralta is the worst pitcher on our staff… so yes i think ho ram is better than peralta and he is more valuable because he can pitch long relief… i think if he even does join our 25 man its for peralta

Yasuhiko Yabuta is to Major League Baseball as Drew Carey is to The Price is Right

by focs on Jun 24, 2008 3:28 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I despite Ho-Ram

Because he is terrible. Peralta is much better.

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by RoyalsRetro on Jun 24, 2008 3:41 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

+1

How could Peralta seriously be considered worse than Horacio Ramirez?

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Jun 24, 2008 4:49 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Should we expect Peralta to stop giving up HR's with great frequency?

And if so, when?

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Jun 24, 2008 4:51 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Shortly after his pitching arm

meets a tree chipper head on

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on Jun 24, 2008 4:53 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Backup QB phenomenom I suppose

Everyone looks good until you find out they suck.

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by RoyalsRetro on Jun 24, 2008 5:04 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Hard to say what I'd prefer

Part of me would like for him to work on things in Omaha, but it’s hard to say who is best/worst among H.Ramirez, Peralta and Tejeda. They’ve all been pretty awful this year (except of course that we have very little to go by with H.Ramirez this year).

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Jun 24, 2008 3:38 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

But as you always say

Look at the last couple seasons. Peralta has gotten it done the last few years. Ho-Ram was terrible last year, and has always had extremely poor K numbers. Tejeda has at least put together two decent seasons and was awesome in AAA this year.

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by RoyalsRetro on Jun 24, 2008 3:41 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I hear what you're saying

But Peralta has been really bad this year. His propensity to give up HR’s has been amazing. And they just keep coming. As far as H.Ramirez goes, if they called him up, then I’m guessing they’re seeing something different from him than last year. I hope that’s true. Clearly it wasn’t true of Tomko. My bottom line is that we’re looking at three poor, unreliable options for two roster spots. I’m not going to be too upset about which two bad pitchers stay and which bad pitcher goes down.

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Jun 24, 2008 3:45 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Peralta has been awful this year

But Ho-Ram has a pretty consistent track record of sucking. And the fact that everyone passed on him “should tell us something.”

I’m not saying Peralta and Tejeda are some great studs. But I’d easily rank them as being better than Ho-Ram and much more acceptable as the last guy in the bullpen.

Relive Royals History at royalsretro.blogspot.com

by RoyalsRetro on Jun 24, 2008 3:55 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

H.Ramirez's track record

He really sucked last year. But the years before that were merely below average.

And the fact that everyone passed on him "should tell us something."

Certainly it does. I’m not arguing that he’s good or even average. I’m not even saying that he’s merely below average. But we’re talking about the front end of the bullpen and those #5-#7 spots in just about any team’s bullpen is populated by marginal major league pitchers. And the Royals 5-7 is no better. So how much of a downgrade could H.Ramirez be? He may well be an upgrade.
I’m not saying Peralta and Tejeda are some great studs. But I’d easily rank them as being better than Ho-Ram and much more acceptable as the last guy in the bullpen.

The only thing is that neither of us knows how he’s pitching this year. Is the velocity the same as last year? Are the breaking pitches the same? Is the control the same? If so, then he’ll be awful again. If some important things have changed, then he might be better. I kind of think that if the Royals called him up, their seeing improvement. I could be wrong and they could be wrong too. Given the state of the Royals 5-7, I don’t mind exchanging one chump for another and seeing how he does for a little while in a limited, low-leverage role.

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Jun 24, 2008 4:01 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

But the years before that were merely below average.

His peripherals were awful. Most stat guys predicted his implosion. Guys that don’t strike out that many and don’t have pinpoint control generally don’t fare well.

“But we’re talking about the front end of the bullpen and those #5-#7 spots in just about any team’s bullpen is populated by marginal major league pitchers. And the Royals 5-7 is no better. So how much of a downgrade could H.Ramirez be? He may well be an upgrade.”

I’m not sure why you even mention this, since I’m not arguing that our pen is better or worse than anyone else’s. I’m not saying Ho-Ram is a downgrade from the last guy in other people’s pen. I’m saying he’s a downgrade from Peralta and/or Tejeda.

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by RoyalsRetro on Jun 24, 2008 4:15 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

You may be right

I just see each of H.Ramirez, Peralta and Tejeda as poor pitchers with a lot of downside potential this year. I really don’t see one as the obvious worst who should go to the minors.

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Jun 24, 2008 4:19 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Not bad

He has power stuff, maybe a new environment and a new pitching coach will help him iron things out.

Rowdy Hardy Fan Club member.

by doublestix on Jun 24, 2008 3:36 PM EDT   0 recs

Just have him land on his toes instead of his heel.

Problem solved.

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Jun 24, 2008 3:39 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Off Subject

Any news on the negotiations with Mehlville and Hosmer? If there’s any info out on it, it may be more speculation than news but I am quite curious.

I don't fight extra players.

by paleblueeyes on Jun 24, 2008 3:51 PM EDT   0 recs

A little Melville news

A poster at Royals Corner who is hooked in and usually has good information says that the Royals and Melville have come to an agreement which should be come official in a week or two. We’ll see.

And there probably won’t be any news on Hosmer for quite a while. I remember Moore said that last year the Royals offers to Moustakas through Boras were literally ignored until August. Boras didn’t respond to them at all, hoping to put pressure on the Royals. Pretty much all of the real negotiations happened within a week or so of the deadline. I expect something like that to happen again.

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Jun 24, 2008 4:04 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Why has he sucked so badly the last two years?

Any insight into this? 101 innings and 84 runs allowed. 65/73 BB/K ratio during that time.

That is Baird-era bad pitching.

www.rockchalktalk.com for pretty good KU baseball coverage

by James Quinn on Jun 24, 2008 3:54 PM EDT   0 recs

Good stats in AAA this year, for whatever that's worth

High K’s, low BB’s , good ERA. And then only 4 ip in the majors this year.

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Jun 24, 2008 3:56 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Am I the only one who...

...hoped, when I saw the headline at the Royals mlb site, that this was somehow Miguel Tejada?! I know that teams occasionally try to slip high quality, expensive players through wires, but that is usually later in the summer. And I couldn’t believe that Miguel Tejada would actually be available for the taking. Anyway, false alarm. – TL

by timlacy on Jun 24, 2008 4:20 PM EDT   0 recs

Dayton is an idiot

For not offering Jimmy Gobble and Esteban German for Miguel Tejada.

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by RoyalsRetro on Jun 24, 2008 4:28 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Probably would've needed another power arm...

like Joel Peralta or Jeff Fulchino.

What doesn't kill us only brings us closer to death

by ksuroyals on Jun 24, 2008 5:12 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Was that all it would have taken?

I was all for the Royals going after Tejada in a big way. I expected he would have cost more than Gobble and Geman. But maybe he could have been bought for Gobble, German, De la Rosa and a prospect or so.

www.rockchalktalk.com for pretty good KU baseball coverage

by James Quinn on Jun 24, 2008 6:27 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

He was joking

It would have taken a lot more than Gobble, German, DLR and a prospect, unless those prospects were Hochevar and Moustakas.

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Jun 24, 2008 6:30 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Someone has to get optioned for a day

lucky Peralta, they should see if they can slide Pena thru

Billy at worst will be Sean Casey jr.

by kcscoliny on Jun 24, 2008 4:20 PM EDT   0 recs

tejeda

has always been one of those guys ive always irrationally liked and rooted for.

I am really happy about it.

Accidentally not thedude925 anymore. I do hate this new name.

by wildthang on Jun 24, 2008 4:21 PM EDT   0 recs

Me too.

That’s weird.

by rockchalk on Jun 24, 2008 4:55 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Just listening to 610

and they believe it will be a position player that will be off the 25 man in exchange for tejeda and they believe it will be esteban german because he simply has no place on this team.. they thought he might have been showcased last night playing left field..

Yasuhiko Yabuta is to Major League Baseball as Drew Carey is to The Price is Right

by focs on Jun 24, 2008 4:27 PM EDT   0 recs

That makes no sense

They’re going to go with a 13-man pitching staff? They are going to just DFA German (he can’t be optioned). Unless they have some source from the Royals organization on this, it is really off the wall speculation which doesn’t make any sense.

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Jun 24, 2008 4:29 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

i can seel Hillman/Moore wanting 13 pitchers though

it fits, sadly, it fits

I wanna know what love is, I want you to show me

by LeoBloom on Jun 24, 2008 4:30 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

They're such idiots

I think they’ll go with 15 pitchers.

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Jun 24, 2008 4:30 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

pitching is the currency of baseball

I wanna know what love is, I want you to show me

by LeoBloom on Jun 24, 2008 4:31 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

That is correct

It is.

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Jun 24, 2008 4:36 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Which is really odd

Considering how good our starting pitching has been. I mean, I kinda understand a 13 man staff in the days of Allard’s crappy pitching staffs. But not now. Not when you need bats.

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by RoyalsRetro on Jun 24, 2008 4:31 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Very true

12 is not needed. 13 is even more superfluous. But I’m going to wait to start complaining until this goes from unsupported speculation to actual fact. We (including I) complained a lot about adding a third catcher, but then it only happened on paper for one day.

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Jun 24, 2008 4:37 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I've heard the same

13 pitchers seems rather….excessive. Maybe it would be a temporary move to trade German, slip Tejada through waivers and bring Billy Butler back.

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by RoyalsRetro on Jun 24, 2008 4:29 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Davies has options

No need to DFA a useful guy.

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by James Quinn on Jun 24, 2008 6:28 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

is he actually a born again?

I wanna know what love is, I want you to show me

by LeoBloom on Jun 24, 2008 4:29 PM EDT   0 recs

You mean...

...born again as a Royal. :) – TL

by timlacy on Jun 24, 2008 4:39 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Could it be Grudz

going on the DL?

by Grace's Dad on Jun 24, 2008 4:31 PM EDT   0 recs

Maybe

they option German, get rid of him essentially then option Peralta/Tejada later after Tejada clears to bring up Butler

Billy at worst will be Sean Casey jr.

by kcscoliny on Jun 24, 2008 4:50 PM EDT   0 recs

German has no options remaining

Do you mean DFA him? If so, that would be idiotic.

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Jun 24, 2008 4:52 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Yea, another Kyle Davies

Robinson Tejeda is basically another Kyle Davies, with major league stuff but minor league control. He is not someone you plan around, but worth a look if you have the room just in case he puts it together.

Joel Peralta should avoid high leverage situations due to his fly ball tendencies, but is otherwise an adequate major league reliever who can soak up middle innings.

Horacio Ramirez has the skillset of a minor league journeyman nearing the end of the line.

by Gopherballs on Jun 24, 2008 4:50 PM EDT   0 recs

his numbers are much worse than Davies

This move doesn’t make any sense whatsoever, unless you’re out to prove you completely disregard stats when making roster decisions.

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by marbotty on Jun 24, 2008 5:05 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

A waiver claim

on a guy with a good arm doesn’t make sense? It’s hardly a lasting committment.

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Jun 24, 2008 5:11 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Are Tejeda's AAA numbers from this year at all relevant?

If so, he’s been better than Davies.

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Jun 24, 2008 5:16 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Very low risk, potentially decent reward

And if all he’s blocking is Neal Musser or Joel Peralta, I’m fine with it.

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Jun 24, 2008 5:17 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

???

Davies MLB career (313 IP): 6.47 K/9, 4.77 BB/9, 1.27 HR/9, 23.1% LD%, 37.3% GB%, 5.20 FIP, 5.98 ERA

Tejeda MLB career (260.2 IP): 6.39 K/9, 5.11 BB/9, 1.14 HR/9, 17.6% LD%, 35.6 GB%, 5.26 FIP, 5.01 ERA

Those lines are not league or park adjusted, which hurts Tejeda.

by Gopherballs on Jun 24, 2008 5:19 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

i was looking at minor league stats, mostly

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by marbotty on Jun 24, 2008 5:20 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

But certainly not this year's minor league stats

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Jun 24, 2008 5:28 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

???

Davies AAA 2008: 5.88 K/9, 3.18 BB/9, 0.64 HR/9, 2.06 ERA, 3.92 FIP

Tejeda AAA 2008: 10.64 K/9, 2.73 BB/9, 0.55 HR/9, 2.18 ERA, 2.62 FIP

Davies did not pitch more than 15 innings in any of the three previous minor league seasons.

by Gopherballs on Jun 24, 2008 5:32 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

minor league career

Davies 2.75 ERA, 8.71 K/9, 3.24 BB/9, 1.20 WHIP .58 HR/9
Tejeda 4.02 ERA, 8.19 K/9, 3.97 BB/9, 1.32 WHIP .98 HR/9

The reason I was looking at minor league more than ML is that they’ve each got about 2x as many innings there, so I weighed it more.

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by marbotty on Jun 24, 2008 5:42 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

besides, if we're looking at 2008 minor league numbers

we might as well look at 2008 major league numbers:

Davies 1.54 ERA, ~4 K/9 ~3 BB/9, 1.37
Tejeda 13.50 ERA, 4.50 K/9, 11.25 BB/9, 2.50 WHIP

Really, both seem like long shots to end up being any good. I suppose it doesn’t hurt to take a flier on Tejeda, but I think it’s a bad idea to bump someone from the 25 man in order to do it. (That was my understanding from other comments—perhaps I’ve misunderstood?)

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by marbotty on Jun 24, 2008 5:48 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

im just making a point

that we need to look at careers in entirety, not from one year

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by marbotty on Jun 24, 2008 5:55 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I'm more interested in what they've done at higher levels of the minor leagues than lower levels

How relevant is it that one player was better in A-ball then the other. And there is no point in bringing up Tejeda’s 6 MLB inning this year. That’s pretty meaningless.

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Jun 24, 2008 5:58 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

i know it's meaningless

that’s why i brought it up

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by marbotty on Jun 24, 2008 5:59 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I thought you were saying, "Look, Davies has been better in the majors this year"

...and using 6 MLB ip’s to do that isn’t really intellectually honest.

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Jun 24, 2008 6:03 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

you're missing my point

Looking at 30 innings of minor league ball from 2008 is just about as relevant as the 6 major league innings, as far as sample size. That is, it’s not all that relevant.

I was instead arguing that you look at the entirety of his 700 ip in the minors.

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by marbotty on Jun 24, 2008 6:06 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

ah sorry

now i’m missing your point

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by marbotty on Jun 24, 2008 6:07 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Numbers from the low minors and from more than three years ago should be weighted the least

Davies’ numbers from the rookie Gulf Coast League in 1999 have zero value in determining what kind of pitcher he is today.

by Gopherballs on Jun 24, 2008 5:50 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

really, this whole debate is silly

While Davies was getting pounded in the Majors the last few years, Tejeda was getting pounded in the minors.

Yes, Tejeda had one “good year” two years ago in the pros, except that he also had a 1.50 WHIP, hardly struck anyone out, and barely struck out more than he walked. (4 bb/9, 5 k/9).

I’ll gladly concede that Davies is ‘worse’ than Tejeda, but that hardly qualifies Tejeda as somebody we should be looking to acquire. But, assuming he doesn’t bump someone off the 25 man, there’s no real reason to be concerned, I guess. He’s probably not much worse than Fulchino.

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by marbotty on Jun 24, 2008 6:03 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I was disagreeing with your statement that Tejeda's "numbers are much worse than Davies"

My original comment was that Tejeda and Davies are the same type of pitcher:

Robinson Tejeda is basically another Kyle Davies, with major league stuff but minor league control. He is not someone you plan around, but worth a look if you have the room just in case he puts it together.

And aside from 18 IP in 2007, Tejeda has been pretty good in the minors over the last few years.

by Gopherballs on Jun 24, 2008 6:21 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

well, then that was a waste of our time :)

Because I agree they are the same type of pitcher.

I just thought that Davies numbers were slightly better, if you put more emphasis on minor league numbers, but that’s debatable (obviously).

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by marbotty on Jun 25, 2008 9:06 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I like this as a depth move

Tejeda has major league heat, and the chance that his control/breaking stuff comes together and he ends up a useful bullpen or back of the rotation guy is worth a waiver claim.

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Jun 24, 2008 4:51 PM EDT   0 recs

exactly

no need to really get up in arms about this.

Accidentally not thedude925 anymore. I do hate this new name.

by wildthang on Jun 24, 2008 7:28 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

FWIW

I’m going to defend Peralta.

Personally, I think we are reading too much into a small sample size this year. He has yielded way too many HRs, obviously, but his WHIP and his BB and K rates are actually very good.

I am inclined to believe that the Peralta we saw the last 2 years was closer to what we will get out of him the rest of this season, and that the HR streak this spring was just one of those things.

At any rate, I still like him WAY more than either Tejada or H Ramirez.

by loyal2sdad on Jun 24, 2008 5:42 PM EDT   0 recs

+1

I liked Peralta’s contributions the last two years. The one caveat to your defense is that his high innings totals may have burned him out enough that this ridiculous HR/9 rate isn’t going to come down much.

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Jun 24, 2008 5:44 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

agree

Aside from the HRs and the ERA, he is in many ways having his best season in the pros. Granted, HRs and ERA are too important to discount, but I’d say it’s more of a fluke than anything.

If he can go 12 innings without giving up a homerun, then he’ll be essentialy the same pitcher he was in that department as he was in 2005.

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by marbotty on Jun 24, 2008 5:53 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs