Draft Day Open Thread
by Freneau on Jun 5, 2008 2:12 AM EDT
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...for some reason.
Here’s hoping that Alvarez somehow drops to us.
This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.
i would be completely unopposed to alvarez, beckham or hosmer
i know im in the minority on hosmer, but im a big fan for some reason
TPJ...you're dead to me
Yeah supposed to be a pretty good bat
what dayton and co. have better have figured out is if the difference between picking a near ready college bat like alvarez, smoak or posey is worth less than what a guy like hosmer will net us.
Accidentally not thedude925 anymore. I do hate this new name.
Hosmer has lots of fans
...including multiple draft “experts.” The top 5 draft picture is very murky. Lots of good talent there and little in the way of obvious front runners.
This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.
by Scott McKinney on Jun 5, 2008 5:26 AM EDT up reply actions
In prospects we already have news
Blake Wood dominated…
Its nice having some decent pitching prospects instead of forcing ourselves to buy into guys llike Tyler Lumsden.
I can’t wait for some of the good hitters we have at high A ball to move up to AA and really show us what they can do.
Accidentally not thedude925 anymore. I do hate this new name.
God I really want Justin Smoak though
ughh please?
Accidentally not thedude925 anymore. I do hate this new name.
If the draft rumors are true
...Smoak seems unlikely at this point. Probably Alvarez or Hosmer. Maybe Posey. Maybe Beckham, but there’s no “buzz” about the Royals and Beckham.
This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.
by Scott McKinney on Jun 5, 2008 5:28 AM EDT up reply actions
I'd love to get...
...Posey. Have we ever had a decent hitting catcher (John Wathan? Darrell Porter?) in KC? – TL
Porter was the best one
Macfarlane second best.
Scary as this sounds, John Buck might be third.
Chaim Mattis Keller New York City's # 1 Royals fan!
Fixed
In like four years three of the guys taken today or tomorrow are totally gonna be Royals!
Remember that the first day doesn’t cover much ground compared to what they used to before it was televised.
"Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on or by imbeciles who really mean it." - Mark Twain
I'll be upset if we go Hosmer
We need bats to get here while we still have Butler and Gordon on the cheap, so unless its for Beckham, I hope we go college bat. Also, Hosmer’s a 1B, although that’s not as big of a concern.
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Prospects & Hosmer
In addition to Blake Wood having an excellent outing last night, so did Duffy for the Burlington Bees. Our pitching prospects are looking pretty good.
I’m reading a lot of posts and from what I can tell Rany’s anti-Hosmer post has influenced a lot of people. At first I completely agreed; however, I’ve warmed up to the idea of selecting Hosmer. Having drank the GMDM Royal Kool Aid, I’ve convinced myself that if we take Hosmer it is because our people believe he can be a superstar while Smoak or Posey will be merely good players. There are more than one draft expert out there that think Hosmer is the best talent in the draft.
Another home run from Teahen is very good news. I think the Royals need exactly 4 things to be a good team: (1) have Teahen raise his offensive performance which includes more power; (2) have Butler return to form with some power; (3) acquire an average SS; and (4) get a productive 1b/DH to go along with Butler.
I don't fight extra players.
haven't seen Rany's post
but will head there now. (ps the folks that drank the kool aid all died)
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Rany & The Kool Aid
Rany’s breakdown on the draft was great. The only down side is that it makes you fear the Royals picking Hosmer which appears to be likely if the Rays take Tim Beckham. Rany does say that if the Royals take Hosmer rather than say Smoak then they better be right about Hosmer.
Hilarious ps comment about the kool aid.
I don't fight extra players.
it appears Keith Law is in the Hosmer camp
it also appears he enjoys trolling Rany’s blog
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Don't see what's great about it
He basically just regurgitates items he “discovered” in his draft analysis a few years ago. Stix posted all the star 1st basmen that were drafted in the 1st round out of high school over the last few years, so his theory doesn’t hold much weight from me.
Rany brings some interesting analysis to the table fairly often, but when it comes to the draft I’ll listed to the guys that follow it for a living.
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RR
would it be possible to add a poll to this post? it would be interesting to see who everyone wants the Royals to take #1. Smoak, Alvarez, Hosmer, Beckham, Matusz, etc.
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Some high asking prices per Sam Mellinger
It sounds like teams will be more willing to scoff at the slotting system after Porcello last year. The quesiton is, will the Royals pony up the cash to play that game??
I have many leather bound books...
Here's the URL...haven't figured the linking thing out yet, I guess.
http://www.kansascity.com/sports/royals/story/650161.html
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Sounds like they are
They seem to be zeroing in on Alvarez and Hosmer, two of the ones making the largest bonus demands
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Posey or Hosmer
If Beckham goes 1 and Alvarez goes 2, who do you think we will take. I think the Royals will take Hosmer over Posey and Smoak. I’m not sure who I would take.
I don't fight extra players.
by paleblueeyes on Jun 5, 2008 10:10 AM EDT up reply actions
I would take Posey
The Royals might as well, or you could be right and they could go for Hosmer. I don’t think they will go for Smoak. I can’t help but wonder if Hosmer is a smokescreen…all the “experts” say we’re cool with drafting another Boras client, but I remember reading several stories last year where the Royals brass were pretty irritated at Boras for letting the Moustakas signing go down to the wire.
I don't have the patience for Hosmer
I don’t have the patience to wait 3-5 years for Hosmer plus I don’t think he’ll sign. Boras so called good relationship with the Royals is bunk. Boras only has a good relationship with money and the devil. I hope the reports are wrong and they draft Smoak if Posey and Alvarez aren’t available.
Billy at worst will be Sean Casey jr.
Luckily for us, you're not the GM
passing on an elite prospect just because you don’t have the patience to wait for him to develop is not a winning strategy.
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Doing the "Ghosts of Drafts Past"
I saw the Royals selected college pitcher Jeff Austin in 1998 because he was the closest to the big leagues. Several picks later, the Indians selected high school pitcher C.C. Sabathia.
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Plus
someone else pointed it out, but the top high school player(s) in each draft often gets to the big leagues about the same time as the top college player(s).
Baseball America ranks Hosmer as #1 HS player in terms of closest to the majors. He’s also #1 for power, #1 for strikezone judgement, and #3 for best pure hitter.
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i read the knock on Hosmer was that he had somewhat questionable
plate discipline/strikezone judgement
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But he's young, projectable, huge, and so forth! The Royals can teach him plate disciplline!
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by Matt Klaassen on Jun 5, 2008 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Boras client
When they don’t get him signed then we’ll see. Boras advised Moose to go to USC. Hosmer has already declared to ASU. If they aren’t willing to pony up the 7 million they could lose him. Take Posey, Smoak or Alvarez.
Billy at worst will be Sean Casey jr.
I would be
more willing to pay a guy more money in a position of need who could be ready to play by next year.
Billy at worst will be Sean Casey jr.
So
catcher is a position of need, but a power-hitting 1st baseman that can field isn’t?
Also, I still don’t understand why having a guy up next year is so important (let’s ignore that Posey won’t be up next year for now….). We’re not going on a WS run next year, so who cares? Draft the best talent not who will get here the fastest. That type of strategy gets GM and scouting directors fired.
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Scouting is all judgement
and Posey next to Beckham has to be the best athlete in the Top 5 picks. Guy throws 96 mph, played SS at a power collegiate program and is gonna be a great catcher. With KC’s young pitching he could be our version of Joe Mauer for years to come.
Billy at worst will be Sean Casey jr.
You act
as if Hosmer was a lock. HS are pure speculatory picks. KC’s scouts aren’t exactly wizards as the past picks have proven. Posey was projected as the 1st pick just a couple weeks ago so its not like he is a bum. Any pick you make is pure speculation.
Billy at worst will be Sean Casey jr.
Neither are locks
All of this is speculation. You seem to be wanting Posey because he’ll big a great big leaguer in a short amount of time. That is no guarantee my friend.
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Yes that is true
Posey just seems like he has a few more tools to lean on to make it the bigs. (arm, athleticism, great batters eye) All that being said sounds like the pick is gonna be Hosmer. I just hope he signs and then turns out to be as good as projected.
Billy at worst will be Sean Casey jr.
Huh?
Scouts are unanimous that Hosmer has the better tools and better upside. Your argument doesn’t hold much weight – you just don’t like Hosmer.
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defensively, Posey has more possibilities
Hosmer will be stuck at 1B. Although he will likely be crushing things there. Early nick name “3 Run Hosmer”. You heard it here first.
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I hate when people do that on here
I just don’t like Hosmer thats me. Ya considering I’ve never seen the kid play. I don’t hate Hosmer I just would rather have someone who could make an impact sooner possibly. And I like Poseys versatility he reminds me alot of Mauer. Good arm good athlete good plate discipline.
Billy at worst will be Sean Casey jr.
If $7 million is too much for the Royals, $12 million is too much as well
If they aren’t willing to pony up the 7 million they could lose him. Take Posey, Smoak or Alvarez.
If the Royals are not willing to pony up $7 million to sign Hosmer, why would the Royals be willing to sign Posey for $12 million?
Baseball America's Final Mock
http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/draft/mock-draft/2008/266271.html
Welcome to KC Mr. Hosmer.
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by eazyb81 on Jun 5, 2008 10:45 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Are you sure?
I wouldn’t give up hope yet based on BA’s projected draft. I would have diminished hope but I woulnd’t give up. Originally I was hoping for Smoak but I’ve become okay and even excited about Hosmer. If we pick Hosmer, I assume we’re ready to pony up for a big bonus—6 or 7 million. I don’t like that but I’m okay with it.
I don't fight extra players.
by paleblueeyes on Jun 5, 2008 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions
BA's final mock
has historically been very accurate
i think 2006 they hit 28 of 30 picks or something
their guys are so close to MLB people, they aren’t your typical NFL mocks where its guesses, its actually a scouting director telling them who they will pick
It won't be that high
The $7 mill number is just a starting point for negotiations.
He’ll end up getting around what Moose got last year – $4 mill.
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Boras advised Moose to pass on 4 million
if it wasn’t for the good relationship with the family he might not have signed. He was a last day signing. Hosmer might be a stud but we could use Posey. No significant catcher in the system. Plus he could be up by 09
Billy at worst will be Sean Casey jr.
Extremely skeptical on Posey
He had a sudden surge in power. Is it for real? Can he hit with wooden bats? Is is a product of FSU’s field, known as a hitters park?
The guy was a fringe first round pick last year, now suddenly he’s a top five pick? That screams red flag to me. I think he can be a solid major leaguer, but I’ll be surprised if he he is much more than a 10-15 home run guy with a solid .280 average.
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I'd be thrilled
With Beckham or Smoak. I’d be mildly pleased with Hosmer. I’d be a mildly disappointed with Posey. Not that I don’t think he’ll be a good All-Star player. But catchers are very rarely impact bats, and we badly need an impact bat. I think Posey’s upside is more Russ Martin – .280/.350/.450 type hitter. Awesome to have, but not the huge bat like Hosmer, Smoak or Beckham could be.
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DRays officially announce they're taking Beckham
Smart move. Pirates seem zeroed in on Alvarez.
I’m pretty sure we’re taking Hosmer.
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OK
Look, I’m no pro, I’m just a fan, like everyone else. There seems to be a lot of support for Hosmer among the “experts.” They’re probably right. But if they do pick Hosmer and he gets a giant bonus, I hope everyone remembers that he needs to either get to the majors around the same time as Smoak and Posey, and he’d better have a significantly higher VORP. That’s all. I can only assume that’s why they’re thinking. Here’s to “them” being right.
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by Matt Klaassen on Jun 5, 2008 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Moustakous v. Vitters
Can somebody explain exactly what happened last year with the apparent last minute switch from us taking Moustakous over Vitters?
I don't fight extra players.
Probably
The media didn’t really know what the Royals were going to do.
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I believe
we thought Moustakas was unsignable until the last minute, thus we switched from Vitters to Moose.
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I think that was unfortunate.
but I’m no expert.
Its early
But Vitters has been pretty awful thus far.
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Seriously?
Moose was awesome in May and is close to leading the league in HR, while Vitters may already be a bust.
You’re right, you are no expert.
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Moustakous v Hosmer
We took a hs bat last year and nobody complained yet this year a lot of people are very apprehensive over us possibly taking Hosmer. I’m guessing this is because Hosmer plays 1B and there are good college bats available. Thoughts?
I don't fight extra players.
Yes, that's right
Among other things, as I understand it you take a HS players because atheticism and ability indicates future growth, so shortstops are a good bet. College 1Bs are more physically developed, so you can see where they’ll end up. But the experts say Hosmer is going to be a potential A-Rod, so no worries there. When has Scott Boras led us astray?
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by Matt Klaassen on Jun 5, 2008 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm struggling to think
Of good college bats at the top of the draft last year. Beau Mills was the best, and I think he went #14 or so.
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PGCrosschecker seems to think
Hosmer won’t sign until August 15. I know Moose and Hooch and Gordon did the same thing, but that’s kinda frustrating.
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Really doubt
He’d pass up that kind of money. He’s not likely to improve his draft status three years from now.
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Royals to select Hollimon
I like it. He’s got a good fastball, seems athletic. Very experienced too – at age 77, he’s pretty polished.
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Is there a tag for "shitloads of grit"?
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by Matt Klaassen on Jun 5, 2008 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions
i can see the Royals messing up and taking him in the second round on accident
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One dumb, but important question
If I can’t get it n TV, what’s the best/easiet way to follow the first round?
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mlb.com has a live draft tracker, usually
that will be what i’m using, anyway, unless mlbtv has a thing on it
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Trivia Time
Four #1 overall picks have played for the Royals in their career. Name them!
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G-Man
Was not a #1 overall pick out of the great educational institution of Northwest Missouri State.
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Interesting Hosmer note by Goldstein
SBE (Nashville): Do you expect Hosmer to get tested as an OF by the team that drafts him, or is a 1st baseman all the way?
Kevin Goldstein: I was talking to somebody else today about this, and here’s the thing. He’s a big, big kid, like 6-4, 225 or so. And he’s 18 years old. So when he finishes up, he’s what? 6-5/250? He might be able to play there now, but you’d be wasting your time.
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I read he has "well below average speed"
so, unless he has ESP as well, it doesn’t seem like a fit.
I have many leather bound books...
16/16 on SB attempts this year
his speed is not well below average, he is actually in great shape and has some wheels.
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Against high school catchers
HS stats mean very little. Plus his body is going to keep growing. I read one scout say that he thinks Hosmer will be 6-5 250 by the time he reaches the big leagues. That’s pretty big.
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Okay, whatever
Every scout has a different take, but that doesn’t make it a fact. I’ve seen Hosmer with my own eyes, talked to many people personally, and have read a ton of scouting reports on him. He has some wheels, and it’s ridiculous to think he gains 40-50 pounds in 3-4 years.
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out of curiosity
is there any chance posey could shift back to middle infield? i’d be pretty happy with him at #3 if that were the case (and the alternative is taking Hosmer)
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Does it make a difference if the Royals sign Javy Lopez?
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by Matt Klaassen on Jun 5, 2008 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions
We already have Brayan Pena
I don’t really see catcher as a long-term issue so long as Brayan is with us.
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i believe the plan is to eventually DH Brayan
we need as many catcher bats in the lineup as possible
If anyone thinks...
that Buster Posey will have an impact bat in the middle of the line-up, they need to stop drinking the Kool Aid. He’s nothing more than a .280, 15 HR’s at best. But then again, he plays GG defense, and we all know how much DM values defense up the middle (see: Pena Jr., Tony)
I get the feeling DMGM doesn't like college boys
too many questions
(I kid, I kid. I’m sure Hosmer is a real Bill Butler on the Wonderlic)
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by Matt Klaassen on Jun 5, 2008 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions
And yes I know DMGM didn't draft Butler
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by Matt Klaassen on Jun 5, 2008 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, Dayton like cheap young studs
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by Matt Klaassen on Jun 5, 2008 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions
rephrase: Dayton likes cheap young studs
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by Matt Klaassen on Jun 5, 2008 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions
for the record
so there will be archived evidence of where we stand when we revisit this topic in 3 years, i want hosmer, i think its the best bat long term, posey will be 3rd best after him and Alvarez
I'm reading about scouts questioning
About Hosmer’s plate discipline. So he’d fit right in with our organizational philosophy
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plate discipline
is so hard for young stars to have, they are so good versus bad pitching, they can afford to swing at everything
Unfair
People doubted Delmon Young, and look how that’s working out!
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by Matt Klaassen on Jun 5, 2008 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions
True
Someday we can hope to trade Hosmer for a solid starting pitcher.
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As long at the Twins are still dumbasses
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by Matt Klaassen on Jun 5, 2008 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions
it doesnt seem fair that the rays get to pick first again
why did all their young players turn out to be good?
it isn’t fair!
If you're in first place
You should have to forfeit your #1 overall pick.
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They should determine that with the All-Star Game, too
Or better, the “World Futures Classic” or whatever it is
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by Matt Klaassen on Jun 5, 2008 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't have a TV
But I think it would be awesome if there were Jets fans bussed in to boo every pick.
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Gammons talking about Hamilton and Ankiel being "great players"
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Hamilton is, for now.
Ankiel isn’t.
A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.
by NHZ on Jun 5, 2008 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Redefining "tepid response"
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by Matt Klaassen on Jun 5, 2008 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Screw you Bud
I think its funny all reports are that all teams are pretty much saying f-you to his slot recommendations.
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A system he didn't really put in place,
but, of course, he could’ve taken a more active role in, ya know, the sport he’s commish of.
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by NHZ on Jun 5, 2008 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Did he he say "parity we have today" or "parody"
Bud Selig, master of subtlety.
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"parity we have today"
sounds like yoda-speak - surely more to that phrase there was
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They need to pay Bug more,
why the hell is up with that outfit?
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Wow,
I’m really not as high on Beckham as some of the other guys projected to go in the top five.
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by NHZ on Jun 5, 2008 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Really?
I think him and Alvarez are far and away the two best talents. Reasonable minds can disagree though.
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oddly, Law has Alvarez listed at 5th best according to his draft book
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I just think that he might be a little higher risk
than some of the others, as a high school SS that has a good chance of moving off the position. Still, I can see the rationale: dude can hit, he has five tools to some extent, and he’s got a lot of upside.
A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.
by NHZ on Jun 5, 2008 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Most scouting reports I've read
Say he can play shortstop at higher levels. We’ll see.
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You mean Tim and David
aren’t brothers?
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by NHZ on Jun 5, 2008 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Never in the finals.
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by NHZ on Jun 5, 2008 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions
I wish there were some storylines or history between these two.
I haven’t heard anything about the NBA lately.
yeah, it's not as much fun if there's isn't an intense rivalry
like Royals-Phillies or Chiefs – Dolphins
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Don't forget Royals-Ms
Long live the battle of Battle Creek, Wyoming!!!
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ESPN.com is on the phone, they want to sue for copyright infringment
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by Matt Klaassen on Jun 5, 2008 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Steve Phillips
taking a break from following Ross Gload and harrassing ESPN interns to give awesome draft commentary
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being an espn intern (female)
is basically like voilunteering at a prison
between Philips, Berman, Reynolds, etc…
Reynolds is gone,
remember?
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by NHZ on Jun 5, 2008 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Brian Anderson
You traitor!!!! How dare you sit with the Rays contingent! Have you forgotten 2003?????
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I always felt sorry
for Anderson given how many times he was injured.
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by NHZ on Jun 5, 2008 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Dammit, even though I knew it was coming
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by Matt Klaassen on Jun 5, 2008 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Poop
Pedro to Pittsburgh. Looks like we get hosmer.
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172 is not a percentage.
No scissoring for you!
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by NHZ on Jun 5, 2008 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions
70%
better question: how many college hitters do we take in first 10 picks (we had one last year)
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I hope 3 or 4
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by NHZ on Jun 5, 2008 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions
I think he'll go
For tons of toolsy high school outfielders.
Actually, I do really like Isaac Galloway with our sandwich pick. That would be nifty.
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Who else likes cheap young studs?
This is for you, RR
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is that what's her name and who's his face?
girl from the office and james gunn?
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Yup
I was going to save it for when RR pissed me off, but he’s too nice a guy, and the will probably never happen, so I just did it with Pitt got Alvarez
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by Matt Klaassen on Jun 5, 2008 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions
The suspense builds
jonfmorse will post 5 seconds before mlb.tv tells me,
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Ugh
Is there really a commercial break before the Royals selection? Thanks ESPN!
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Actually
John Sickels was saying that a lot did hinge on whether the Royals take Hosmer, Posey or Smoak.
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Hosmer
I hope that Dayton already has that $7M bonus check from Glass ready.
Sometimes you just gotta roll the potato.
by CentralChamps2009 on Jun 5, 2008 2:28 PM EDT reply actions
Meh
Player demands always exceed what they eventually get. We have the hammer on him. He ain’t going to college and risking losing out on millions.
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cool
i can’t wait till 2012, we’ll be great
boring shit, dayton better know what he’s doing
Alex Gordon in '08
2 minutes before the deadline
They just moved the deadline up to August
Sometimes you just gotta roll the potato.
by CentralChamps2009 on Jun 5, 2008 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions
it was very long, actually
although they moved the date for signing up til August, right?
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Just saw a picture
He looks like Moustakas in a different cap.
Sometimes you just gotta roll the potato.
by CentralChamps2009 on Jun 5, 2008 2:30 PM EDT reply actions
OH NOES!!!!!
DAYTON MOORE HAS SET THIS FRANCHISE BACK 20 YEARS! HOSMER SUCKS!!!!
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Thank you
:)
This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.
by Scott McKinney on Jun 5, 2008 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh, shit, he's here.
Everyone hide the beer.
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by NHZ on Jun 5, 2008 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions
I like this pick.
I don’t know if I love it, but it’s easy to dream about an actual real-live thumping first basemen on our team in the nex 3 or 4 years.
A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.
I'm still at commerical
thanks, ya’ll
see my rec’d post above, until then….
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if this is what happens when we piss you off
i’m going to do it all the time. nice photo!
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I was hoping you'd comment on the "where's her hand" pic
Especially given you “affection” for James Gunn
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by Matt Klaassen on Jun 5, 2008 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions
I completely agree
I was just trying to stroke—I mean “stoke” the flames
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by Matt Klaassen on Jun 5, 2008 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Jenna Fischer (sp? I can never remember)
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by Matt Klaassen on Jun 5, 2008 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions
she's just frumped out
unlike the British version of The Office, where they got an actual normal looking person
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Which is why America kicks ass!
USA!
USA!
USA!
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by Matt Klaassen on Jun 5, 2008 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions
the schoolmarm outfits totally hide it
Why can’t she have a baseball blog or SI collumn?
In a year or two it will be better than The Office anyway.
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by Matt Klaassen on Jun 5, 2008 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Do your own stalking, I feel dirtty as it is
I think she’s probably 32-35
Just right. Entering cougar territory.
My prediction stands: enjoy her now, because once Clooney decides he’s too old for 20something “cocktail waitresses” from Vegas, he’s going to marry Jenna and give her herpes.
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by Matt Klaassen on Jun 5, 2008 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions
(sigh)
34 (born March 7, 1974) according to Wikipedia.
There you go if you want to dedicate a column or mail her one of your big toes for her birthday.
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by Matt Klaassen on Jun 5, 2008 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions
You have a chance!
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by NHZ on Jun 5, 2008 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Steve Phillips awesome analysis
“Royals really want to get him signed”
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ESPN's coverage is pretty useless
None of the guys at the desk know anything about these guys. The only worthwhile part is Law and Callis
Phillips sucks
He might be the most useless analyst on baseball they have. That includes Joe Morgan.
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by NHZ on Jun 5, 2008 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Morgan at least
Has pretty good stories of baseball in the day. Phillips brings nothing. The only stories he brings are “remember that time I ruined the Mets? That was awesome.”
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by RoyalsRetro on Jun 5, 2008 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Or "remember that time I was a complete cock to Kim Ng?"
Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.
by jonfmorse on Jun 5, 2008 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I pretty much guarantee
He doesn’t sign til the deadline.
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If he signs at all
Sometimes you just gotta roll the potato.
by CentralChamps2009 on Jun 5, 2008 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions
You can make that same guarantee for most of the first rounders
MLB thought the new August deadline would help teams’ leverage, but it sure did not work that way last year.
Actually it did help
Every first rounder signed
This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.
by Scott McKinney on Jun 5, 2008 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions
All but a couple signed above slot unlike previous years.
The problem was not with players failing to sign (in recent years, virtually every first rounder signed), it was with the amount of the signings. Moving the date backfired with respect to slotting.
I think the real issue over the last 5+ years has been guys not signing at all
That’s how teams really get screwed. Having to pay $1M more isn’t a big deal. Losing your player is.
This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.
by Scott McKinney on Jun 5, 2008 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Not really
In the last five drafts, only two first rounds picks (out of 150 total picks) failed to sign—Townsend in 2004 and Mayberry in 2002. The issue the last several years has been Selig’s campaign to keep costs down through imposing the slotting system on teams. At the time the signing deadline was changed, the reasoning from the commissioner’s office was that it would help give teams more leverage (as unsigned players could not increase their value by playing the next year). It backfired when most first round picks held out until August 15, at which time the teams, not the players, caved and agreed to above slot contracts. Selig this year has backed off holding teams’ feet to the fire on slotting.
Mark it down
Gammons: “Might be the best power hitter in the draft.”
Hope so. Set up the Hosmer vs. Smoak tracker
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Think the O's'll take Smoak?
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by NHZ on Jun 5, 2008 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Keith Law says the same thing
Sometimes you just gotta roll the potato.
by CentralChamps2009 on Jun 5, 2008 2:32 PM EDT reply actions
Okay I'm a little ignorant about the draft but I thought we had the worst record
how did Tampa Bay get the first pick? Is it a lottery?
by MKforKC on Jun 5, 2008 2:34 PM EDT reply actions
No KC had a better record than the Rays
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by NHZ on Jun 5, 2008 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions
tampa knows when to tank
whereas we go out of our way to sweep Detroit in a meaningless end of season series
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Royals' 2008 domination of TIgers will come back to haunt next year, as well
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by Matt Klaassen on Jun 5, 2008 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Hope the kid
can hit…He’s Huge. Does anyone know where he’ll get sent? If he signs around the deadline is he apt to go to Idaho Falls ala Moose.
Billy at worst will be Sean Casey jr.
Idaho Falls
Prolly just a few games in August, then winter ball, then Burlington, IA next year.
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I wish they had a slotted salary system
so the kid could get into play sooner. Ala the NFL or NBA
Billy at worst will be Sean Casey jr.
bud looks grouchy.
more grouchy than usual at least.
He knows that O's and us
will sign the players for above slot money.
A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.
by NHZ on Jun 5, 2008 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions
OK.... this is pretty dorky
but in the course of writing the first chapter in my dissertation, I did much research on a guy named Titus Hosmer (1736-1780)
the Hosmer’s were big in 18th c. Connecticut, and Titus was a judge and a member of teh COntinental Congress… i wonder if our Hosmer is related
If you did this for a living like DMGM
you would have already known that.
Hosmer = guaranteed HoFer
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by Matt Klaassen on Jun 5, 2008 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions
serendipity
and i’m sure he is. there can’t be that many out there
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Yes, he's related
but only because Titus Hosmer’s had a bastard son with the candlemaker’s widow.
Matusz
That’s the second in a row that I’ve thought made a whole lot of sense for the team they’re going to. Baltimore’s first rounders the last two years were hitters, and they can certainly use a legit top of the rotation prospect in that system.
A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.
I'm down on Posey
Especially if he’s headed to SF.
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SF drafts...
Jeff Cirillo. They don’t believe in young players.
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Wasn't that
They were signing free agents who’d been offered arb, and forfeiting their draft picks altogether.
Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.
Yes,
They were signing average players before they could be non-tendered, purposefully getting rid of draft picks. Sabean is a genius.
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by NHZ on Jun 5, 2008 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Seriously?
I mean, I can’t think of even a stupid justification for doing that
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by Matt Klaassen on Jun 5, 2008 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions
They didn't want
to spend money in the draft.
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by NHZ on Jun 5, 2008 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions
And Sabean had the theory that
a mediocre major-leaguer had the same “utility” (in game theory terms) as a draft pick. i.e., the balance of risk/reward on a draft pick was equal to a type B free agent.
Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.
It might work...
if you have the payroll to sign the top FA hitter and pitcher every year.
Otherwise…let’s not talk about how hair-brained that idea is.
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by NHZ on Jun 5, 2008 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions
um...the rest of the post went AWOL
I was saying that it could work if you signed a 900 OPS masher and the top FA pitcher every year. Which, of course, no one does.
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by NHZ on Jun 5, 2008 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions
My joke was better
and it’s your turn in the closet.
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by NHZ on Jun 5, 2008 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions
I assume this the closet with the scissors
or am I making the wrong anal goe?
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by Matt Klaassen on Jun 5, 2008 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions
It is actually
the closet that contains Scarlett Jo. Just don’t tell Will, I don’t want to break his heart.
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by NHZ on Jun 5, 2008 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Woody Allen, is that you?
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by Matt Klaassen on Jun 5, 2008 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm much too good-looking
to be Woody Allen. Plus I’m slightly behind in movies directed/produced.
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by NHZ on Jun 5, 2008 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions
SJ in closet is like 50 Woody (ahem) points, though!
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by Matt Klaassen on Jun 5, 2008 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions
devil fingers,
how I am supposed to respond to whatever it is you just told me? :P
We need to establish how many “Woody” points is actually good…
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by NHZ on Jun 5, 2008 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions
That's a new metric
Needless to say, it requires another tag
Don’t worry, I won’t, um, try to “clipper” you
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by Matt Klaassen on Jun 5, 2008 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions
anal goe, Woody points, scissoring, adultery,
and what else? I’m having a hard time keeping up, and my post yesterday had 9 tags or something like that.
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by NHZ on Jun 5, 2008 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions
grit (probably already there), grinder, groin-grabbingly stupid
didn’t adultery already get in with the TPJ steals… post?
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by Matt Klaassen on Jun 5, 2008 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes,
I was listing the tags that really don’t mean anythign in the context of a baseball blog.
Don’t forget “ad hominem.”
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by NHZ on Jun 5, 2008 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions
thesaurus should go up, to, perhaps with "egghead"
I think joel42/jmoney42/steve philips (user – Royals Review/and just “Joel” all need to be tags
BTW, I can’t wait to use “the undead” on a post. Maybe when Sweeney hits a jack or something.
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by Matt Klaassen on Jun 5, 2008 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions
That music video
is quite weird. The song is your classic teenage “romance” song. I didn’t expect vampires.
“the undead” tag should be reserved for ex-Royals. :P
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by NHZ on Jun 5, 2008 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Not sure about Hosmer over Smoak
But then again, I’m a sucker for college guys at the top of the first round. While Tim Lincecum over Hochevar looks awesome right now, Ross Detwiler over Mostakous doesn’t look so good now(I wanted Wieters, who’s doing awesome, but I have doubts about us signing him).
Because New Fanshots seem to be broken, I'll just put it here:
From BP:
Pena’s defense is four runs below average for every 100 games played, and he’s already cost the Royals two runs defensively in addition to his issues at the plate. John Dewan’s Revised Zone Rating agrees with this assessment as well, with Pena ranking 14th out of 21 qualified shortstops.
Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.
Kevin Goldstein of Baseball Prospectus sez
Kevin Goldstein (11:32:23 AM PT): 3. Royals take Eric Hosmer. A lot of questions about why Hosmer over the big college bats, because he’s more risky. He might be, but his ceiling, especially on a power level is totally ridiculous.
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more from Goldstein
PT): Interesting fact: Eric Hosmer is the first ever high school first baseman to be selected third overall, and only the second first baseman EVER (Dave McCarty, 1991). The Royals did consider Matusz here, but they LOVED Hosmer all along.
McCarty? BOOYAH!
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two way player!
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by Matt Klaassen on Jun 5, 2008 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Eh?
I think he could be in the Orioles rotation in 2010.
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by NHZ on Jun 5, 2008 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions
But if you meant
that we really needed a hitter, I agree.
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by NHZ on Jun 5, 2008 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions
I meant
would not be good for the Royals.
my draft list reads
1. Alvarez
2. Smoak
3. Hosmer
heading in, everything concerned, like signability and royals development history.
We can draft some HS pitcher in the 2nd/3rd round
by playingwithfire on Jun 5, 2008 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions
and I think Crow is better than Matusz anyway
by playingwithfire on Jun 5, 2008 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Really? Wow.
Must places I looked had Matusz as the best pitcher available. To each his/her own, though.
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by NHZ on Jun 5, 2008 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions
I think
Crow has more upside, more risk, while Matusz is more solid and dependable.
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Not if you have four plus
pitches. It’s kind of “low risk, medium upside” versus “significant risk, good upside” and I think the picks make sense for both teams. The Nationals have a lot of back of the rotation guys in their system, so it makes sense to go for a high upside guy. The O’s have had quite enough of toolsy pitchers without results, and Matusz is probably the better bet to be an effective ML pitcher.
Just my 2 cents, anyway.
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by NHZ on Jun 5, 2008 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Apparently Law is surprised
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by NHZ on Jun 5, 2008 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions
If so...
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by Matt Klaassen on Jun 5, 2008 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions
these look like you personally took these
of course, if she’s showing you some leg, you’re in like Flynn
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"Car Wash II?"
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by Matt Klaassen on Jun 5, 2008 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions
is that really the title?
although someone needs to fire costume for the bizarre brown non-skirt thing
No, it's from the Lolliove movie she did with Mr. "Smooth Talk will get me in with Lil' Miss Bosoms With No Self-Esteem
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by Matt Klaassen on Jun 5, 2008 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions
oh, man, that's right on the money
what would it be called, though?
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High School Drama Nerd Girls Who Developed Late Do Pretentious "Directors" 1990
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by Matt Klaassen on Jun 5, 2008 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions
i think this was a good pick for chicago
i really like his power and he’s a pretty decent defender
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Kenny's PISSED
I thought the (bleeping) board said TIM Beckham was still available!!!
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Ozzie looked happy
Gordon was the guy he was yelling about. He’ll be in the lineup by Friday.
Billy at worst will be Sean Casey jr.
Gammons obviously benefitting from BillJames conversations
On G. Beckham: “He’s a baseball player.”
Pulitzer, baby
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"Earn"
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by Matt Klaassen on Jun 5, 2008 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Remember, RFK
saved their pitching staff quite a few runs, and it certainly helped that a couple of their veteran retreads turned out to still have something left.
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by NHZ on Jun 5, 2008 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Speaking of whom
What’s the over/under on DMGM’s signing of VInnie Casilla to “spell” Gordon 3-4 times a week?
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by Matt Klaassen on Jun 5, 2008 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions
That's not until Chipper has a few more years of "development" to build up his GRIT
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by Matt Klaassen on Jun 5, 2008 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions
I was thinking maybe we could
dredge up the corpse of Joe Randa.
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by NHZ on Jun 5, 2008 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions
And Mike Bacsik's post-756 interviews
were worth about 5 wins on their own
Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.
Nationals takes my favorite college arm 2 years in a roll
Now I thought Detwiler might take some time to develop, but I didn’t think he was going to be bad in A+
did they ever make a baseball card for him?
cuz that would be awesome to own
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Krivsky must work for the 'Stros now
Can’t belive they drafted Juan Castro
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by Matt Klaassen on Jun 5, 2008 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions
On the topic of can't miss
prospects, has anyone noticed Delmon Young’s excellent OPS this year?
I think the Rays win that trade.
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BREAKING NEWS
Steroid dealer David Jacobs found dead before rolling over on NFL ‘roid users
Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.
I read that as "Dana Jacobsen'
I have a tabloid part of my brain, apparently.
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by NHZ on Jun 5, 2008 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Where's Rodney Harrison?
Or Wade Wilson, for that matter?
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by Matt Klaassen on Jun 5, 2008 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions
That means the Royals should be able to get him for Olivo+Meche once he gets good
Cf. Hafner trade
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by Matt Klaassen on Jun 5, 2008 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions
makes up for
hafner, gonzalez, and teixiera. so, he’ll be off the team right before he hits big
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Great minds...
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by Matt Klaassen on Jun 5, 2008 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Not as bad a the Huber sale, but still, one more to ease the pain?
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by Matt Klaassen on Jun 5, 2008 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions
I think the fact that Smoak fell all the way to 11 should tell us something about him
Something not good.
This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.
Huh?
This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.
by Scott McKinney on Jun 5, 2008 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions
that was in the wrong place, and got truncated
by the way, like your new sig
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I've turned over a new leaf, re: humility
...at least in my sig.
This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.
by Scott McKinney on Jun 5, 2008 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions
this will make choosing a new one for you more difficult
once Pena gets his 300 at bats :)
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I think it was 400...but we'll have to check
This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.
by Scott McKinney on Jun 5, 2008 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Riiiiiiiight
oh, wait, just in your sig. Very well, I agree. :P
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by NHZ on Jun 5, 2008 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions
I also considered "peace, love, dope"
This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.
by Scott McKinney on Jun 5, 2008 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions
The fact that Albert Pujols fell to the 13th round
Should tell us something about him!
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Smoak to TEX
Seems like a great pick for the Rangers based on how low he fell.
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By the way, I don't buy into the argument that since the Royals picked Hosmer over Smoak that now Hosmer has to get to the majors as quickly as Smoak
Picking HS players with high ceilings is fine. I’m happy for him to get to the majors a year or two or three later than Smoak, as long as he’s better. I prefer taking the guy who you think will be better.
This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.
I agree
I’m actually one of the guys who said that. I agree that if he’s better than waiting is fine. I do think he has to be significantly better.
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by Matt Klaassen on Jun 5, 2008 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions
I should have said that is what I meant above
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by Matt Klaassen on Jun 5, 2008 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Significantly better?
If player X is going to have a .875 OPS and player Y is going to have an .850 OPS and X gets to the majors 2 years after Y, wouldn’t you rather go with the better player over the player that gets to the majors quicker?
This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.
by Scott McKinney on Jun 5, 2008 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions
My only quibble
Is that the longer a player takes to get to the big leagues, the more likely something can happen to him along the way. But I worry about that far less with hitters than I do with pitchers.
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here's the only thing
odds are at #3 and as a Boras agent, he’ll get a ML contract. so wouldn’t that start the clock sooner, and thus he’d be under our control for a shorter period of time?
I don’t know if that’s actually going to be the case, but if that was, we’d be better off with an older pick. (Please correct me here on this if I misunderstand the ML contract thing)
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That puts the player on the 40-man roster, but does not affect his arbitration clock
This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.
by Scott McKinney on Jun 5, 2008 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions
I also
Seriously doubt we give a HS kid a MLB contract. Boras can ask all he want, but that kid isn’t going to give up $5-6 million to risk going back to college and not getting drafted for three years.
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Yeah, MLB contracts for HS players is still very rare
We didn’t give Moose a MLB contract and he was #2 overall. I think Hosmer will get a nice bonus, like Moose did.
This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.
by Scott McKinney on Jun 5, 2008 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions
It depends
Abstracted from everything else in the situation, or everything being equal, of course I’d agree with the better player. We’ll just have to see how this works out. There’s a lot of experts raving about Hosmer, so I’m not going to try to criticize it. I’ll admit that it will be interesting, as always, to see what happens with him vs. the players he was chosen over.
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by Matt Klaassen on Jun 5, 2008 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions
I see the sooner vs. better argument a lot like the pitcher vs. hitter argument
I can understand the preference for this pick to be a guy who gets to the majors sooner, just as many (including me) preferred getting a hitter over a pitcher. But while I’d love for the draftee to get to the majors quickly and help the team soon, I think the soundest philosophy is to draft the best available talent, meaning the player who you think will end up being the best eventually.
This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.
by Scott McKinney on Jun 5, 2008 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions
'K
I don’t see that we’re that far apart. I agree with the “better player” thing, while I’m sure that my qualfications are trivial enough to narrow the gap
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by Matt Klaassen on Jun 5, 2008 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Who was arguing that?
Serious question, no sarcasm.
And +1 to your “better player” sentiment. I don’t see any reason to assume we got this wrong.
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by NHZ on Jun 5, 2008 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Is drafting by bloodlines a new thinking, moneyball, sabermetric draft strategy?
This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.
by Scott McKinney on Jun 5, 2008 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions
A's are going to draft
Pujols’ kid next year, and do a 12-year draft-and-follow
Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.
Didn't we take Albert's cousin one year?
Wilfredo Pujols?
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Hey, if he's going to be the better player eventually, that's what you have to go with
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by Matt Klaassen on Jun 5, 2008 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions
In 10 years
“Geneball,” the book that explores genetic engineering in terms of drafting the perfect baseball team.
Out of the highlands of Scotland...
the rest of the NL Central is screwed.
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by NHZ on Jun 5, 2008 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions
sounds like a gritty name
although -1 grit for hailing from NoCal
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When we get to the supplemental round and second round (both top 50 picks)
Someone who knows more about these guys is going to have to tell me if we made a good pick
This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.
If Moore likes him then he has to be good!!!!!!!!!!111
This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.
by Scott McKinney on Jun 5, 2008 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions
here's who we get based on draft position and goldstein's rating
38. Brett Devall, LHP, Niceville HS (FL)
What He Is: As advanced as any high school arm in the draft, with outstanding control and a deep arsenal.
What He’s Not: A power arm.
In A Perfect World He Becomes: A fourth starter.
Backup Plan: Some kind of big leaguer.
Open Issues: Can the fringe-average fastball set up the secondary stuff? Does his ceiling justify his price, or is there such a thing as a safe high school arm?
That doesn’t look promising.
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Soft-tossing lefty = pure awesomeness!
Sounds like he has an All-Star appearance as a lone Royals representative in his future.
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I doubt the Royals are going to go with a soft-tossing HS pitcher in the supp or 2nd round
This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.
by Scott McKinney on Jun 5, 2008 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions
they'll likely go college bat
or best available. the guy above doesn’t appear to qualify for either
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that Tyler Ladendorf guy looks like a good spot there
not that i really know, though, having just read about him today
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Agreed
I like him a lot. Hope he can stay at short, but he looks a lot like Gary Sheffield.
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Mmmm...sandwich pick
I’ve only studied scouting reports for the last week as opposed to actually watching these guys full-time for the last year, but I really like HS OF Isaac Galloway for our sandwich pick. He projects as a 20-20 guy and is pretty polished for a HS kid.
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Why do we have a sandwich pick?
Who did we lose to free agency? Sweeney? Emil? We get compensated for them?
Chaim Mattis Keller New York City's # 1 Royals fan!
Riske
This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.
by Scott McKinney on Jun 5, 2008 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions
ALERT! MATT STAIRS MENTION!!!!! 1111 ONE ONE ONE
Who was is that just said that Wallace = Matt Stairs x2
$10 million bonus now
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Gah!
Mom changed the channel to the french open (which is fine because Ana Ivanovic is playing) who dropped the Stairs reference??
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by NHZ on Jun 5, 2008 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions
I didn't have that window up
I can’t even remember if it was a compliment, I was to taken up in religious ecstacy
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by Matt Klaassen on Jun 5, 2008 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions
whenever i hear the name
i have a pavlovian response to want to grow a goatee
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And a gut
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by Matt Klaassen on Jun 5, 2008 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Not everyone from Minnesota
is a hick, morse.
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by NHZ on Jun 5, 2008 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Super Laser Double Secret Probation for Hate Crime?
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by Matt Klaassen on Jun 5, 2008 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions
He's the highest draft pick that actually showed up in Orlando, looks like...
Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.
We'd better hope a Bay Area team doesn't draft some kid named
Hippe, then.
Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.
Or "Stoopid."
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by NHZ on Jun 5, 2008 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions
No one is ever truly going to know
which side I’m on.
I love them both.
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by NHZ on Jun 5, 2008 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Escalation
Stairs vs. Huber. vs. Fischer
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by Matt Klaassen on Jun 5, 2008 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Bobby Fischer?
That man could play chess like no one’s business, but I can’t remember him playing baseball.
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by NHZ on Jun 5, 2008 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Fischer vs. Fischer: Who is the greatest American in the hearts of RR readers?
OR
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by Matt Klaassen on Jun 5, 2008 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Lawl
This could be the first ever decision where NYRoyal agrees with everyone.
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by NHZ on Jun 5, 2008 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't get it
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by Matt Klaassen on Jun 5, 2008 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't think anyone's voting for Bob,
for some reason.
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by NHZ on Jun 5, 2008 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Beards are underrated
So is chess.
So I’m still thinking.
This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.
by Scott McKinney on Jun 5, 2008 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Interesting side note
As an American living in Canda, I get a laugh out of the whole “Canadian men are generally, um, less “masculine” than Americans. But English men are even less so. Yet Australia’s like if a whole country based on “Gunsmoke.” It’s as if the further south and west you go, the more “machoness” you get in the Anglosphere.
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by Matt Klaassen on Jun 5, 2008 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions
But New Zealanders are more badass than Aussies.
It’s the Maori thing.
Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.
I think Homer said it best
When he said something to the effect that America is England’s rowdy younger son, while Canada is the older , more polite, more responsible son who has never had a girlfriend.
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Machoness
is so much macho bullshit anyway. I go to college with some people who believe they’re tough because they’re from “the hood.” It’s really insufferable.
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by NHZ on Jun 5, 2008 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions
To be fair, you live in New England
I’m talking about real, Hank Hill machoness, not Guinness-fueled, Murphy-Sully-and-SImmons frat boy belligerence
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by Matt Klaassen on Jun 5, 2008 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions
It's the same disease,
just different strains. And we don’t have any fraternities, FTR.
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by NHZ on Jun 5, 2008 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Hank Hill rules
‘Nuff said
(it was a cultural speculation, not some stupid toughness thing, by the way)
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by Matt Klaassen on Jun 5, 2008 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions
NL baseball = nearly dead to me
Hey, it’s a flaw, I’m not bragging, just confessing
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by Matt Klaassen on Jun 5, 2008 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Pitching match-up I want to see:
Johan Santana versus Jake Peavy.
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by NHZ on Jun 5, 2008 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Third base?
I thought teams thought of him as a pitcher.
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just going to post that
he and Jimmy Jones have the same “stylist”
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A Canadian??????
I don’t allow Canadians in baseball in God’s America.
This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.
by Scott McKinney on Jun 5, 2008 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Kevin Slowey is PRing
in the O’s-Twins game.
Which is fine, except he’s a starting pitcher. Shades of Huber?
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that's it, mother(bleep)er
Steealing my breaking new, bumping my BP FanShot down the page, be prepared to be scissored in your anal goe. Pissing me off is a groin-grabbingly stupid move.
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by Matt Klaassen on Jun 5, 2008 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions
I've had quite enough of
your macho bullshit. Boy howdy, I’ma gonna kick your ass while I drink this guiness.
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by NHZ on Jun 5, 2008 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions
I've never met you
But I’m pretty sure our fight would comedically blow away the Michael and Gob ones from Arrested Develeopment. Probably reach the heights of Kyle-Cartman from the “Family Guy Sucks” episodes.
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by Matt Klaassen on Jun 5, 2008 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Arrested Development: fun show.
And yes, I think we’ve developed quite the comedic rapport.
Put up your dukes. (adopts traditional Irish fighting pose) I’ve got Dirty Harry and John McClane who want to have a word with your face!
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by NHZ on Jun 5, 2008 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions
I mean our literal fight
My wife and I still laugh our asses off in the season 2 ending “fight” in front of the courthouse
Your parrot had better be locked up, though.
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by Matt Klaassen on Jun 5, 2008 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions
I think of you more as Tobias Funke
“The Man Inside Me”
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Yes,
the literal fight would be a good match too.
And Pete the Repeat Parrot threw in his lot with me a long time ago. Sucks for you.
“Awwwwk! I’ll kick your scrawny stathead arse, awwwk!”
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by NHZ on Jun 5, 2008 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions
You're the stathead
I just try to ride the cottails of NYRoyal, you, and RR with the same tired-ass jokes and mispelled comments.
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by Matt Klaassen on Jun 5, 2008 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Kevin Slowey just pinch-ran for Mike Redmond!!!
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Didn't Sabes pinch run from time to time?
I seem to remember him doing it at least once, although it may have been that 18 inning marathon against Texas.
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Woulda been better if he was running for someone with a name like
Jake Speed or Mike Quick or the like
Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.
did they just talk about Lawrie
destroying Davies and Hochevar?
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Brewers C
can mash. 2b off of Luke Hochever and Davies…Shit the kid can hit.
Billy at worst will be Sean Casey jr.
this draft is taking forever
it’ll be what, 2 hours before our next pick?
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Wake me when we get to the 30's
This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.
by Scott McKinney on Jun 5, 2008 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Weeks brothers are similar in that they both go out there to win the game
Bloodlines = drafting goldmine
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Cooper to Toronto?
Quite a reach at #17. I was thinking he’d be available at #36 for the Royals.
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Well, if a major league organization picks him that high, it should tell us something
(enigmatic silence)
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by Matt Klaassen on Jun 5, 2008 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions
ah, i thought we picked 38
So, here’s the goldstein #36th prospect:
36. Mike Montgomery, LHP, Hart HS (CA<)
What He Is: A tall, lanky, projectable teenage left-hander.
What He’s Not: Especially overpowering at this time.
In A Perfect World He Becomes: A scary good southpaw.
Backup Plan: A left-handed specialist out of the pen.
Open Issues: It’s a lot of projection at this time, as right now he has no pitch that grades out more than average.
I could live with that, I guess.
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Note to steve Phillips: probably not a good idea to mention Scott Kazmir when you are Steve Phillips
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that's horribly unfair.
Phillips made a GREAT move for the future of his beloved Tampa Bay Devil R—
oh wait
Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.
Victor Zambrano's mom
thought it was a get trade.
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by NHZ on Jun 5, 2008 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions
If I were a Mets fan
And I saw Steve Phillips, I would punch him in the weiner.
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Great line. One of about two funny seasons in the incredibly irritating Juno
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by Matt Klaassen on Jun 5, 2008 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Aw, I liked it
But yea, the first 5-10 minutes were incredibly irritating.
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It can't touch the ending
of the new “Running Scared.”
Oh, and my friend tried to do an e-brake turn on the way back from NY. The rest of us still dislike him for that.
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by NHZ on Jun 5, 2008 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Juno theory
I liked it at the time, but as a friend said, his theory is that the first 20-30 minutes are so irritating, that you’re so relived when it it over, the last hour-1 1/2 seem much bettter than it is.
Ellen Page is a cutie, though. Makes me feel super-skeevy just thinking it.
Bateman mailed it in, though.
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by Matt Klaassen on Jun 5, 2008 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions
I have a crush on her friend
I think her name is Olivia Thurlby.
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Page did a good job,
so did Cera. My sister in love with him. Oh, well.
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by NHZ on Jun 5, 2008 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Poor Michael Cera
Will be playing variations on “George Michael Bluth” the rest of his career
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by Matt Klaassen on Jun 5, 2008 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Apparently, he's in a pretty funny band
But year, good for him. But he’s impossible to dissociate from his characters. Can’t you just see him, off-set, awkwardly trying to get into Ellen Page’s pants? That would be great reality show/
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by Matt Klaassen on Jun 5, 2008 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions
I think he is very GMB in real life
He plays the befuddled, somewhat awkward character very well.
This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.
by Scott McKinney on Jun 5, 2008 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions
I actually liked that movie.
It boggled my mind that some critics had it rated as highly as There Will Be Blood and No Country For Old Men, but I still thought it was very good.
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by NHZ on Jun 5, 2008 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions
It boggles my mind
That eleventy billion people wanted to pay money to see “Transformers.”
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i wanted to see it
but it was more terrible than even my rather low expectations.
But was it more terrible than the new Indy Jones?
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I liked that too,
but only to the extent that I found it entertaining and stupid once. Nowhere near as good as any of three movies I mentioned above. Not even close.
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by NHZ on Jun 5, 2008 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions
It had giant robots!!!!!!!
This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.
by Scott McKinney on Jun 5, 2008 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Giant robots are cool.
Michael Bay is pretty much the opposite of cool.
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by NHZ on Jun 5, 2008 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions
I guess I'm just bitter
Because I was a “Go-bots” kid
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They had better names
Cy-Kill
“Roguestar.” That’s what I wanted to name my phreak/hack BBS run on C-Net on my C64.
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by Matt Klaassen on Jun 5, 2008 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Awesome interviewing: "is the whole thing getting drafted?"
New discussion: how important is getting drafted to getting on a major league team? Is that the key?
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Who are some good draft-eligible, non drafted players?
I’m struggling to think of anyone.
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Well, it's only been a couple of years since
they stopped drafting every eligible player with all four limbs.
Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.
There is an ungodly amount of sandwich picks this year.
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A good sandwich
only needs two or three toothpicks. Jeezus.
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by NHZ on Jun 5, 2008 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Shouldn't "grinder" come up in this context?
And while we’re on the subject, can we make “hoagie” another synonym for gritty players?
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by Matt Klaassen on Jun 5, 2008 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Insert mandatory "mmmmm...." line
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by Matt Klaassen on Jun 5, 2008 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Love Billy Butler
But he does look like he got his face off of the “Chunky White Hitter” assembly line.
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by Matt Klaassen on Jun 5, 2008 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions
ALERT: discussion of the importance of fundamentals
Steve Phillips, leading off!
“If a lady intern bends over, you have to grab her ass when the opportunity arises.”
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by Matt Klaassen on Jun 5, 2008 4:11 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Gritty sighting on Havens! (Phillips)
ALso, another one of those “baseball players” everyone is raving about.
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I am really afraid
The Royals take a hockey player in the second round. That would be foolish!
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Apparently you just don't get grit
Being a hockey player is a 75 point GRIT bonus.
This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.
by Scott McKinney on Jun 5, 2008 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions
How about being a football punter?
We might just have to change the acronym to ERSTAD.
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by Matt Klaassen on Jun 5, 2008 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions
That's only 50 pts
But still very important
This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.
by Scott McKinney on Jun 5, 2008 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions
I can't remember
Seriously, wasn’t Darin a hockey guy, too?
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by Matt Klaassen on Jun 5, 2008 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Don't know
But it certainly does feel like he must have.
This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.
by Scott McKinney on Jun 5, 2008 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Wikipedia: “Erstad also played hockey (36 goals and 24 assists in 26 games) and participated in track and field (winning state titles in 110 and 300-meter hurdles).”
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by Matt Klaassen on Jun 5, 2008 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions
I thought he was one of the grittiest players in baseball
Now I know he is.
This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.
by Scott McKinney on Jun 5, 2008 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions
"in baseball?"
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by Matt Klaassen on Jun 5, 2008 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Good point
But baseball is the grittiest sport, so if you are one of the grittiest players in baseball, you’re one of the grittiest players in all of sports.
This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.
by Scott McKinney on Jun 5, 2008 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't care what his projection is
If all the other teams have passed on him, that should tell us something,.
Something like, “take a baseball player.” and “drafting him should indicate that he’s a draftable player.”
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by Matt Klaassen on Jun 5, 2008 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Bloodlines!!!!!!!111
This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.
by Scott McKinney on Jun 5, 2008 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions
The Bell Curve = The New Moneyball
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by Matt Klaassen on Jun 5, 2008 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions
You're so naive
Lenny spread a lot of DNA around in the 80’s.
This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.
by Scott McKinney on Jun 5, 2008 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Dude, I don't want to know what women were doing
with gallons of spittoon juice.
Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.
Is "spittoon juice" what the kids are calling it now?
This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.
by Scott McKinney on Jun 5, 2008 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions
I like the kid a lot
For the sandwich pick. Smart kid, great power, great eye, questions about his glove though. SD can just stick him at DH though.
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Huber will block him
This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.
by Scott McKinney on Jun 5, 2008 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions
his 1-3 last night inspired two continents
expect lots of Justins to be born in about 8 months 29 days
My fiance was nauseous this morning
So…who knows? If so, I’ll name it Justin….boy or girl.
This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.
by Scott McKinney on Jun 5, 2008 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Evidence this whole draft is rigged
Room is full of alleged Ray “fans.”
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Winfield at the Padres desk
does he go to the Twins or Yankees desk next?
Billy at worst will be Sean Casey jr.
Jim Callis sporting a classic "spiffy nerd ensemble"
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Botox money
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by Matt Klaassen on Jun 5, 2008 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions
He looks like
The nerdy teacher on “Saved by the Bell”
Yes, I watch that show religiously.
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Someone just asked whether Moneyball philosophy
allows for the drafting of good baseball players, or just patient guys
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Beane, Epstein, Riccardi, etc. all hate good baseball players
good players are overrated
This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.
by Scott McKinney on Jun 5, 2008 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions
He's a bust or boom guy supposedly.
Some saying he’ll be an All-Star, some saying he’ll never get past A ball.
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Steve Phillips pontificating on 6th tool! Plate discipline!
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Gammons sticking up for new philosophy
Less strikeouts, more hits! It’s a sabermetric revolution—
Apparently, being able to hit and hit for power is preferable to just a bunch of strikeouts.
Additionally, some scouts are allowed to look at a player more than once when making evaluations.
I’m learning a lot today. I’m taking the crown from NHZ and NYRoyal both with the help of Phillips, et. al.
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You have a long way to go
I have spreadsheet bed sheets.
A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.
by NHZ on Jun 5, 2008 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh yeah
I does it h ave a column that takes into account that XBH > K?
OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG
by Matt Klaassen on Jun 5, 2008 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Being Southern rules
I’m from Oklahoma, so I suffer from “cultural no mans land” identity crisis
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by Matt Klaassen on Jun 5, 2008 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions
No, that's why there's an identity crisis
And I’m from the ‘burbs. That just makes it worse.
Growing up a left-liberal means that I didn’t appreciate my lack of territorial heritage until much older. But probably I should avoid politics in favor of continued perving over Jenn Fischer.
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by Matt Klaassen on Jun 5, 2008 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions
A good policy
A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.
by NHZ on Jun 5, 2008 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions
They are 7th and 8th
Grit is 6th. I’m shocked that I had to point that out.
This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.
by Scott McKinney on Jun 5, 2008 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Great minds recognize the obvious
Like grit and helmet hair.
This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.
by Scott McKinney on Jun 5, 2008 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions
More great stuff
According to Gammons (whom I actually kind of like for reals) says that Pat Gillick likes guys with “baseball ability.” This is practically a free on-line couse in baseball management.
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I think he meant
differentiating “tools” and “skills,” but he was rather in articulate.
A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.
by NHZ on Jun 5, 2008 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Probably
But taking unfair cheap shots at a legend like Peter Gammons = blog coolness
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by Matt Klaassen on Jun 5, 2008 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions
First Nazi drafted in years!
OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG
by Matt Klaassen on Jun 5, 2008 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Moore will never trade DeJesus
I can’t believe I just figured this out.
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by Scott McKinney on Jun 5, 2008 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Who apparently struck out Posey, Castro, and G. Beckham back-to-back in the Cod last year
Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.
10/100
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by Matt Klaassen on Jun 5, 2008 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Does anyone know how many rounds they are showing on ESPN today?
First and supp? 2nd round too?
This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.
I think just the first and supp round
how many rounds is MLB doing today?
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2-6 eastern
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by Scott McKinney on Jun 5, 2008 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions
I dunno, I know it is just a couple of swings on the video that is on ESPN, but I don’t see it. Swing looks long, no wonder they say he has trouble on the inside pitch.
My initial Scouting report (again after 17 seconds of video, I cant open the longer ones @ work) If he max’s out we just drafted Adam Dunn with more K’s.
I reserve the right to totally change my mind upon viewing a longer clip….
by GoBabies!! on Jun 5, 2008 4:29 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Adam Dunn sounds good
I want the Royals to sign him as a FA. Getting him for cheap in the draft sounds even better.
This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.
by Scott McKinney on Jun 5, 2008 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Wait, who's this?
Hosmer? Someone else?
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by Matt Klaassen on Jun 5, 2008 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm guessing so
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by Scott McKinney on Jun 5, 2008 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Huh
I like Dunn, too, but I from reports I read (granted, that’s a limited number) he seems like he’d be a better contact guy. Also, Dunn-like power seems really difficult to project for young kids like that.
I guess projection are projections. For example: I heard a lot of Smoak-Teixeira talk. I’d take Teixeira over Dunn, but I’m pretty sure that’s a bad basis for a draft being.
I’ve actually wanted to have a Dunn-specific discussion. Is it too early in this season to start a thread on it?
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by Matt Klaassen on Jun 5, 2008 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions
I've heard Hosmer
Has some pitch selection issues, so he could be a high strikeout guy. Casey Kotchman has been described as a comp, but I think Hosmer will grow and develop more power than that.
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It's really hard for anyone to project any of these guys
If he turns into Dunn, that’s great. But we really have no idea.
I’ve been thinking of a Dunn post too. I say go for it. It’s never too early.
This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.
by Scott McKinney on Jun 5, 2008 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Maybe tomorrow
More of a discussion starter. Primary issues
1) where does he play?
2) Depending on where he plays, how much over league average would he be (thoughts inspired by a roundtable at lookout landing on DUnn).
3) Granted that it’s OK to overspend on a player in situations like the Royals, how much is too much?
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by Matt Klaassen on Jun 5, 2008 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions
An important fourth issue to me
4) Old player skills and the development/decline curve. The biggest reservation I have about Dunn is that his body and skill set fits the profile of a younger player with “old player skills.” Without getting into detail (I’m sure we’ll get into it in more detail in the post and thread you start), these players tend to peak and decline early. This could mean that Dunn starts declining as early as 2009 and gets worse and worse throughout the course of his long-term contract. That’s the downside risk on Dunn.
This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.
by Scott McKinney on Jun 5, 2008 6:12 PM EDT up reply actions
+1
real late… not that you’ll read this at this point,. but I was going to put that in. The Hafner situation accentuates this, although it’s likely something else entirely (and I think Hafner’s a very different kind of hitter than Dunn [more contact]).
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by Matt Klaassen on Jun 5, 2008 9:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Since they can't trade picks...
I assume they have the 5 minutes for ESPN’s commentary?
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