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Hosmer it is!

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In like four years three of the guys taken today are totally gonna be Royals!

Well, if it is a good draft that is.

Consider this your Draft Day Open Thread (things get started around 2 EST supposedly, give or take some ESPN lead-in type delays). I'll be leaning on you guys today, since I don't know Smoak from Posey from Dennys Reyes. Sure, in five years somebody taken today might well become my next Shane Costa or Justin Huber, but that's only after their meaningless and ignored AAA stats are put up.

Here are two links to get us started:

  • Goldstein's Mock Draft at BP (he has the Royals taking Pedro Alvarez) and related chat.
  • Quick Goldstein hit on Hosmer: A lot of questions about why Hosmer over the big college bats, because he's more risky. He might be, but his ceiling, especially on a power level is totally ridiculous.

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I feel special

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Jun 5, 2008 4:40 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

that thread was killing my computer

by royalsreview on Jun 5, 2008 4:41 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yea, mine too

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Jun 5, 2008 4:46 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

WORST DRAFT EVAH!!!!

DAYTON MOORE HAS SET THIS FRANCHISE BACK 20 YEARS! HOSMER IS A BUST!!!

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by RoyalsRetro on Jun 5, 2008 4:41 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Thank you again

If you don’t do that after every Royals draft pick this draft, I’m putting you on triple secret probation.

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Jun 5, 2008 4:43 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Can't wait for joelphillips42 post on Explodin's mentoring skillz

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Jun 5, 2008 4:45 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I wonder if anyone from Gload and Joel's college is going to be drafted today

Joel will be all over it.

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Jun 5, 2008 4:53 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Unless you've played the game

You should stop posting

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by RoyalsRetro on Jun 5, 2008 4:54 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

My response to him if he ever shows up and pulls that shit:

“Unless you can show me your baseball card, STFU.”

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on Jun 5, 2008 4:55 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

so i just fell asleep for like an hour or so

and it seems our pick still isn’t up? in my dreams that “Defense – Kids” ad music was playing though.

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by marbotty on Jun 5, 2008 4:43 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

In fairness

If this were the NFL Draft, we’d still be in the top five.

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by RoyalsRetro on Jun 5, 2008 4:43 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Just to clarify...

My comparison to Adam Dunn was if Hosmer MAXED OUT.

My initial thought when I saw his swing was of the Duncan kid in StL.

by GoBabies!! on Jun 5, 2008 4:43 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

in a way

but Dunc has a pretty ugly swing, i’d say

by royalsreview on Jun 5, 2008 4:44 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I like Hosmer's swing

Good power stroke and it doesn’t look too long to me. But who knows.

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Jun 5, 2008 4:45 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I think it looks long

But I really don’t see why that’s bad. So he strikes out, so what? So long as he hits bombs, I’m cool with that.

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by RoyalsRetro on Jun 5, 2008 4:45 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

"I think think it looks long"

(Trying not to be banned by NHZ)

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Jun 5, 2008 4:47 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That's what she said

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by RoyalsRetro on Jun 5, 2008 4:48 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Well played

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Jun 5, 2008 4:50 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

BTW, I think it was the "Gay Witch Hunt" ep,

Season 3 Ep 1. Maybe my fav ever.

Oscar-Michael kiss + “Here Comes Treble”

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Jun 5, 2008 4:51 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i've never quite been comfortable with the running

Michael is gay subtext (esp w/regard to Ryan) but it was nicely done in that epiosde

there, I did it

one of the strangest scenes ever in a network show i’d say… i don’t think the writers even knew what the ultimate point or joke was

by royalsreview on Jun 5, 2008 4:53 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Had to get some cookies

the “Michael’s homoeroticism” thing is cheesy, I agree, although although the mancrush on Ryan is funny to me.

I think that episode was great because it showed how Michael is sympathetic and good and that it can be seen when he is behaving at some of his worst (worst aside from his over-the-top treatment of Toby).

BTW, recently I’ve been thinking that, at least pre-2007, Brian Cashman = Toby. Exactly the same facial expression in all pics.

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Jun 5, 2008 5:01 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Wrong episode.

The ‘he said’ came out during Oscar’s forced coming-out-of-the-closet, not when he returns from his vacation (because of Michael)...

Sorry to be an ass, I fell kinda bad…

by rockchalk on Jun 5, 2008 11:09 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

New tag!

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Jun 5, 2008 4:50 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I just watched season one of "Crossing Jordan" over the last week

There’s one episode where Lily asks Nigel what size he is, and he thinks she’s talking about his shoes and says “oh, 12 1/2”, and Lily’s eyes bug out…

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on Jun 5, 2008 4:52 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Dunc's swing is ugly

Thats my point. I was NOT impressed by my 1st viewing of Hosmers swing (in relation to the #3 overall pick).

Again, 17 second clip…

by GoBabies!! on Jun 5, 2008 4:46 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

how many pitches for Meche tonight?

i’m thinking 130 (don’t want to spoli the game thread post, but yea)

by royalsreview on Jun 5, 2008 4:46 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I think definitely a Cat2,

and we’ll go from there. More PAP! More PAP!

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Jun 5, 2008 4:47 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

One thing about the Hosmer pick

It will give us all plenty to fret, bitch, compare other picks (esp. Smoak), acrimoniously yell at each other, make amateur single-A scouting reports, praise/damn DMGM…

So I’d say, from RR’s perspective, this might be one of the greatest draft picks of all time.

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Jun 5, 2008 4:47 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'm reading the Baseball Think Factory Draft thread

And almost everyone hates their picks. You should hear A’s fans right now. Yow.

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by RoyalsRetro on Jun 5, 2008 4:48 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

yea... baseball drafts

are like anti-NFL drafts, where everyone thinks they just drafted 5 all-pros

by royalsreview on Jun 5, 2008 4:50 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

CLE: Lonnie Chisenhall

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on Jun 5, 2008 4:48 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Oh come on

You just made that name up. Seriously? I’ve never even heard of this guy and I’ve spent a week or so studying this thing.

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by RoyalsRetro on Jun 5, 2008 4:49 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

No

If I were making names up, I’d make up names like “Virgil ‘Two-Toe’ Carrutherson” or “Ulysses Heinzschwalder”.

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on Jun 5, 2008 4:51 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Kram Namder,

space bounty hunter.

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Jun 5, 2008 4:52 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Burglary and larceny charges

Usually that’s not one of the first things you want mentioned about your first round pick.

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by RoyalsRetro on Jun 5, 2008 4:52 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Clay Bucholz!

Good Kid, though

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Jun 5, 2008 5:02 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

should be 40-45 minutes

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by marbotty on Jun 5, 2008 4:50 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

correction

30 minutes

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by marbotty on Jun 5, 2008 4:51 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The supp picks

Are only going to be one minute between picks, right? Things should start to pick up then.

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by RoyalsRetro on Jun 5, 2008 4:51 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

ah, sweet

7 minutes then

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by marbotty on Jun 5, 2008 4:52 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

back to 30 minutes

thanks for nothing Selig

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by marbotty on Jun 5, 2008 4:55 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

They should do it 10 seconds between picks

Just like speed chess.

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Jun 5, 2008 4:55 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I once beat someone

with two seconds left on my clock.

I believe I may have screamed in a primal fashion. The honor of the 2005 high school class was at stake during Spirit Week.

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Jun 5, 2008 4:56 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

A rare instance of chess-related grit

Kudos.

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Jun 5, 2008 4:57 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Hey,

I wasn’t no David Eckstein, man. I was good. You have no idea-probably-how easy it is to pick up girls being the first board on the chess team.

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Jun 5, 2008 5:00 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

If only I knew

For some reason being on the football team and the debate team didn’t exactly lead me to rake in the lovelies.

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Jun 5, 2008 5:01 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

OMG,

you were a football star? Like in the Nada Surf vid?

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Jun 5, 2008 5:02 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Is the center ever a star?

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Jun 5, 2008 5:02 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

If you're

Chuck Bednarik, yes! Other than that…probably not.

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Jun 5, 2008 5:04 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Somehow I wasn't able to squeeze the star potential out of the position

Girls just aren’t football-smart. The center is the QB of the offensive line for god’s sake!

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Jun 5, 2008 5:05 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It's too bad,

considering the ability to pick up air heads in high school is so highly correlated with success in life. We were both doomed by age 16.

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Jun 5, 2008 5:07 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

No,

but winning does.

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Jun 5, 2008 5:02 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I think your

sarcasm detector’s “low battery” button is blinking.

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Jun 5, 2008 5:03 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

This.

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on Jun 5, 2008 5:04 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That.

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Jun 5, 2008 5:05 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Although

My buddy who’s a chess teacher in SF seems to have a lot of odd interactions with cute Russian girls.

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on Jun 5, 2008 5:06 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

"After Cherynobel, my [Stairs] fell off"

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Jun 5, 2008 5:07 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Well yeah,

Russians are chessy crazy.

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Jun 5, 2008 5:08 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Chess coach = only funny thing over by Jim Belushi

but it was a Hall of Famer

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Jun 5, 2008 5:03 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

BOS: Statty McComputadora

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Jun 5, 2008 4:53 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

who do we get in the comp round?

i want melville

Accidentally not thedude925 anymore. I do hate this new name.

by wildthang on Jun 5, 2008 4:53 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I like OF Isaac Galloway

Melville does seem to be sliding

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by RoyalsRetro on Jun 5, 2008 4:54 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

BOTOX: Casey Kelly

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on Jun 5, 2008 4:54 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Wicked awesome

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by RoyalsRetro on Jun 5, 2008 4:55 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

MONEYBALL: Unathletic Rhino

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Jun 5, 2008 4:55 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yeah, Melville is still around

He’s had the most new, intense hype of the last 10 days.

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Jun 5, 2008 4:55 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Drafting by name

If we were to do that, Shooter Hunt might be our man.

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Jun 5, 2008 4:56 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

+1

The only way his name could be better is if Hunt was actually his middle name and his last was “McGavin.”

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Jun 5, 2008 4:57 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

+1

McGavin should definitely be his nickname.

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Jun 5, 2008 4:58 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Now I REALLY want him on our team..

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Jun 5, 2008 5:01 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Josh Fields has

MELTED helmet hair.

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on Jun 5, 2008 4:57 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

and he’s invoked God 32545235 times in the last 45 seconds.

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on Jun 5, 2008 4:57 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Apparently haircuts are out of fashion

These kids today.

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Jun 5, 2008 4:58 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Conner Gillaspie

is still avaliable. I would take a serious look at him or if Scheppers or Hunt are still there. They rank 10 and 11 in BA.

by gordonrules on Jun 5, 2008 4:59 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

what's the odds on

multiple high school pitchers during the next two picks by the Royals?

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by marbotty on Jun 5, 2008 5:02 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Moore can completely turn around this botched draft if he picks Shooter Hunt

I.want.that.name.in.our.organization.

Period.

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Jun 5, 2008 5:02 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Colt Griffin.

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on Jun 5, 2008 5:02 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That's only one good name

not good enough

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Jun 5, 2008 5:03 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Who drafted Rowdy Hardy?

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Jun 5, 2008 5:05 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

No one

But the Royals were smart enough to sign the undrafted fifth year senior.

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Jun 5, 2008 5:06 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Was it Baird or Moore?

Because if we’re doing a “How bad was Baird, really?” thread again (inevitable, no matter what happens), that needs to be on the ledger one way or the other.

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Jun 5, 2008 5:07 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I think it was Baird, but I'd have to check

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Jun 5, 2008 5:08 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Twas Deric Ladnier

DM wasn’t yet hired and Allard had been fired.

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by RoyalsRetro on Jun 5, 2008 5:08 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The question will never be decided, then

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Jun 5, 2008 5:09 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

it's a massive plus for someone

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Jun 5, 2008 5:10 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I love the compensation round...

guys like Trever Miller, Ron Mahay, and Pedro Feliz are now relevant.

by Bart41 on Jun 5, 2008 5:02 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

And Johnny Damon

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Jun 5, 2008 5:03 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I like how

The draft compensation for Doug Brocail and David Riske is higher than the draft compensation for MIke Cameron.

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by RoyalsRetro on Jun 5, 2008 5:05 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The next five picks

belong to Min, Mil, Nym,Phi, and Mil.

by gordonrules on Jun 5, 2008 5:04 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I would think

Mil or Phi will pick up either or both Scheppers and Hunt.

by gordonrules on Jun 5, 2008 5:05 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Supposedly

Seattle’s team doctor gave the “okay” on Scheppers. I’d still be awfully wary.

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by RoyalsRetro on Jun 5, 2008 5:06 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Seattle approval = kiss of death

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Jun 5, 2008 5:08 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Also

how about Germy getting an extended look at SS?

by gordonrules on Jun 5, 2008 5:06 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It's weird

Clearly they are showcasing him as a UI who can play all IF positions. The problem is, he really can’t.

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Jun 5, 2008 5:07 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

SHHHH

Don’t tell the Dodgers!

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by RoyalsRetro on Jun 5, 2008 5:07 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I think we all need a break from TPJ...

but I’m pretty sure he’ll be back to haunt us frequently, and probably have a majority of the starts the rest of the season nonetheless.

by Bart41 on Jun 5, 2008 5:10 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

In all seriousness, I don't think he'll get the majority of SS starts for the rest of the season

Although a Grudz trade could change that

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Jun 5, 2008 5:10 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

TPJ or German?

I was saying TPJ will be back starting before long.

by Bart41 on Jun 5, 2008 5:11 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

TPJ won't get the major of SS starts

my fearless forecast

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Jun 5, 2008 5:12 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

+1

I wonder if we can get someone to take Pena as a utility infielder for the stretch run…

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Jun 5, 2008 5:11 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

And then how far will Melville fall?

His draft slot isn’t matching his recent hype.

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Jun 5, 2008 5:06 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

BA says

probably won’t follow through on a commitment to UNC unless he fell out of the 1st round

by gordonrules on Jun 5, 2008 5:09 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

riske was soooo much better than linebrink

we totally should have gotten our pick ahead of the brewers

Accidentally not thedude925 anymore. I do hate this new name.

by wildthang on Jun 5, 2008 5:07 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

+1

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Jun 5, 2008 5:09 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

All about the rep...

Linebrink was/is costing on a reputation he built in 2005-06.

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by NHZ on Jun 5, 2008 5:10 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

What's going on now?

Why no drafting?

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by RoyalsRetro on Jun 5, 2008 5:11 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

15 min break before comp round

break almost over

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Jun 5, 2008 5:12 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The action has stopped

as the security men try to locate Steve Phillips’s wind-up key.

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by NHZ on Jun 5, 2008 5:12 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Five relievers went in the first round

I still don’t like the idea of drafting relief pitchers in the first round.

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Jun 5, 2008 5:12 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It was a reliever heavy draft

But yea, I agree. Its like drafting a kicker in the NFL Draft.

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by RoyalsRetro on Jun 5, 2008 5:13 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I don't think it's THAT bad

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Jun 5, 2008 5:13 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Not quite

But its still kinda silly unless your organization is just loaded.

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by RoyalsRetro on Jun 5, 2008 5:14 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

But when you draft a kicker/punter,

you’ve instantly made a huge mistake because it’s been proven that 1) the best kickers and punters are well-scouted undrafted players and 2) a kicker or a punter can only be a kicker or a punter, obviously.

When you draft a college reliever with two plus pitches who you think can learn on the job, it’s possible to entertain the idea of converting him to starter. People who are college relievers have almost always started in high school.

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Jun 5, 2008 5:16 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Or punter

or kick returner

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Jun 5, 2008 5:13 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Are you familar

withe Robopunter?

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by NHZ on Jun 5, 2008 5:14 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Darin Erstad?

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Jun 5, 2008 5:24 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

No,

He’s a gritty punter, but also The High School Hockey Star.

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Jun 5, 2008 5:27 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Me neither,

but there is the thought that you can convert a college reliever with more than one plus offering into a starter and benefit from the lack of mileage on his arm.

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Jun 5, 2008 5:13 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That's true

If you like the pitches and think he’d make a good starter, that changes things.

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Jun 5, 2008 5:14 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yes, and if it's

a situation where you’re drafting the player specifically to fasttrack to the bullpen, I don’t get why that type of player is targeted in the first round.

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Jun 5, 2008 5:17 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Shaun Marcum is an example here

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Jun 5, 2008 5:24 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

MIN: Shooter Hunt

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on Jun 5, 2008 5:12 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Shit, shit, shit, shit, shit.

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by NHZ on Jun 5, 2008 5:14 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Draft ruined

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Jun 5, 2008 5:14 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Year ruined

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by NHZ on Jun 5, 2008 5:17 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Life ruined

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by jonfmorse on Jun 5, 2008 5:18 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

jinx again

WTF man?

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Jun 5, 2008 5:18 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Organization ruined

Perhaps life ruined.

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Jun 5, 2008 5:18 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Baseball ruined

Perhaps galaxy ruined.

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by NHZ on Jun 5, 2008 5:18 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

history of all time and space
ruined mildly disturbed

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by marbotty on Jun 5, 2008 5:20 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

it is over

2 picks already

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Jun 5, 2008 5:14 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Ouch!

I still think you have precognition.

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Jun 5, 2008 5:15 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

MIL: Jake Odorizzi

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on Jun 5, 2008 5:14 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

this is a scary looking guy

Accidentally not thedude925 anymore. I do hate this new name.

by wildthang on Jun 5, 2008 5:14 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Scary looks are a good grit factor

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Jun 5, 2008 5:15 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

+1, Rec'd

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Jun 5, 2008 5:25 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

NYM: Brad Holt

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by jonfmorse on Jun 5, 2008 5:15 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Step one: Draft

Step Two: throw money well above slot at him.
Step Three: We win!

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by NHZ on Jun 5, 2008 5:19 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

omg

theres a mike montgomery??

WE NEED HIM!!!

Accidentally not thedude925 anymore. I do hate this new name.

by wildthang on Jun 5, 2008 5:16 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

wow

wasnt actually expecting us to pick him

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by wildthang on Jun 5, 2008 5:19 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

meh

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by marbotty on Jun 5, 2008 5:19 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

PHI: Zach Collier

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by jonfmorse on Jun 5, 2008 5:17 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

here we go!

Accidentally not thedude925 anymore. I do hate this new name.

by wildthang on Jun 5, 2008 5:18 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

MIL: I have no idea.

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by jonfmorse on Jun 5, 2008 5:18 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

(they talked over the announcement, didn’t repeat it, and haven’t even put it up on a chiron yet)

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by jonfmorse on Jun 5, 2008 5:19 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Evan Fredericksen

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by jonfmorse on Jun 5, 2008 5:35 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

KC: Mike Montgomery

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by jonfmorse on Jun 5, 2008 5:19 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The new basketball coach at Cal?

Relive Royals History at royalsretro.blogspot.com

by RoyalsRetro on Jun 5, 2008 5:22 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Michael Montgomery!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1111

Anybody know this guy?

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Jun 5, 2008 5:19 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

LHP

kicked off basketball team for too many technical fouls. 6-4 180.

by gordonrules on Jun 5, 2008 5:20 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Low grit factor

technical fouls are a bad sign. He’s probably the next Rasheed Wallace.

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Jun 5, 2008 5:21 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Sounds like another good character guy

Hope he isn’t a baby or Jose Guillen will yell at him.

Relive Royals History at royalsretro.blogspot.com

by RoyalsRetro on Jun 5, 2008 5:22 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Jose Guillen = Max Character Factor over 113 out of possible 107

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Jun 5, 2008 5:26 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

"Entire team is babies!"

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by NHZ on Jun 5, 2008 5:26 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Profiles

as middle of the rotation starter.

by gordonrules on Jun 5, 2008 5:21 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

SF: Connor Gillespie

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on Jun 5, 2008 5:20 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

89-92 HS lefty

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Jun 5, 2008 5:20 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

always sexy

Accidentally not thedude925 anymore. I do hate this new name.

by wildthang on Jun 5, 2008 5:20 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

He has grit!!!

Ravech says he “has an edge to him” because he was kicked off of his HS basketball team for getting too many technicals!

Grit, baby. Grit.

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Jun 5, 2008 5:21 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

If he meant that in a positive way...

that means Ravech said something positive about the Royals, doesn’t it?

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Jun 5, 2008 5:23 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

kind of

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Jun 5, 2008 5:24 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

HOU: Jordan Liles

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on Jun 5, 2008 5:21 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Can't find him on Baseball America's Top 200

Not a good sign

Relive Royals History at royalsretro.blogspot.com

by RoyalsRetro on Jun 5, 2008 5:29 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

if our next pick is a high school pitcher

i win the trifecta

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by marbotty on Jun 5, 2008 5:21 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

STL: Mike Lynn

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by jonfmorse on Jun 5, 2008 5:22 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Montgomery

89-92 fastball, but at 6-4, 180, he has a projectable body and should add some mph to that fastball. Most tall, strong HS pitchers do add velocity over the next few years.

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Jun 5, 2008 5:22 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

he was the #36 rated talent by Goldstein

profile posted in other thread, but here’s something

“It’s a lot of projection at this time, as right now he has no pitch that grades out more than average.”

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by marbotty on Jun 5, 2008 5:24 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

But Moore and his people like him

:)

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Jun 5, 2008 5:25 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

ATL: Brett Devall

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on Jun 5, 2008 5:23 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

CHC: Ryan Flaherty

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by jonfmorse on Jun 5, 2008 5:24 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

SD: Jeff Decker

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by jonfmorse on Jun 5, 2008 5:25 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

the graphic calls him "Jaff"

Jaff is an awesome name.

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by marbotty on Jun 5, 2008 5:26 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I've heard his name linked to us

I think Sickels said it.

Relive Royals History at royalsretro.blogspot.com

by RoyalsRetro on Jun 5, 2008 5:30 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

poor Sickels

he probably spent hours coming up with that, whereas I just looked for the closest high school pitcher rated in the 45 – 55 range

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by marbotty on Jun 5, 2008 5:32 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

ARI: Wade Miley

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on Jun 5, 2008 5:26 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

NYY: Jeremy Boitch?

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by jonfmorse on Jun 5, 2008 5:27 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Beutsche

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Jun 5, 2008 5:27 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

thanx

no chiron at all on that one

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by jonfmorse on Jun 5, 2008 5:28 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

BOTOX: Bryan Price

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by jonfmorse on Jun 5, 2008 5:28 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

SD: John Forsythe

Two picks between KC and Melville…

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by jonfmorse on Jun 5, 2008 5:29 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

We'd have to give him first round money to keep him from going to college

If the Yankees weren’t willing to do it with their supp pick, I don’t think the Royals will.

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Jun 5, 2008 5:30 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Never know

If Dayton’s got Glass convinced you have to spend the money in the draft, and if Glass is now okay with telling Bud to go pick his own ass…

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on Jun 5, 2008 5:32 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Supp round over

Round 2 doesn’t start until 6:15 eastern time

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Jun 5, 2008 5:29 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I hope

ESPN.com hasn’t even touched the supplemental round yet.

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by jonfmorse on Jun 5, 2008 5:31 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

MLB.com has a life draft tracker on the main page

it’s nice

winning records follow good bullpens

by slayor on Jun 5, 2008 5:33 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

live even

winning records follow good bullpens

by slayor on Jun 5, 2008 5:33 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Why?

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Jun 5, 2008 5:35 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

this was random but I agree

Cameron is a better player than Guillen and cost less

by playingwithfire on Jun 5, 2008 5:46 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Cameron

is hitting .220/.286/.441 for an OPS+ of 87 with a bad injury history. There’s a reason he cost less.

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Jun 5, 2008 5:49 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

45 minute break now?

well, i’m off to bed then

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by marbotty on Jun 5, 2008 5:31 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

In unrelated news

Todd Wellemeyer is now 7-1 with a 2.92 ERA for the Cardinals

winning records follow good bullpens

by slayor on Jun 5, 2008 5:31 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Shut up :P

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Jun 5, 2008 5:35 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

If you're keeping score at home.....

Use Baseball America’s draft database

by adschofield on Jun 5, 2008 5:35 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Thoughts on second round pick?

I really want OF Isaac Galloway now. He’s just sitting there, waiting to be a Royal.

SS Tyler Ladendorf looks great too.

P Tyler Sample has control issues, but is 6’7’’ and can bring heat.

SS Niko Vazquez has a nice swing, but may have to move to 2B.

Relive Royals History at royalsretro.blogspot.com

by RoyalsRetro on Jun 5, 2008 5:38 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i want ladendorf

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by marbotty on Jun 5, 2008 5:40 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Ladendorf or Galloway.

Either one would make sense to me. We already have Montgomery as a pitcher, and I want the Royals to go hitter heavy this draft.

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Jun 5, 2008 5:42 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Agree

Both will probably end up in the outfield, but both are burners, which DM seems to like.

Relive Royals History at royalsretro.blogspot.com

by RoyalsRetro on Jun 5, 2008 5:46 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Hah.

Ravech: “How’s that make you feel, being the father of someone about to hit his 600th home run?”
Griffey Sr.: “OLD?”

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on Jun 5, 2008 5:39 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Who did we get as our token Negro League player?

in the Negro League living-player draft or whatever.

by mazoboom on Jun 5, 2008 5:46 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Ulysses Hollimon

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by RoyalsRetro on Jun 5, 2008 5:47 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I found it odd

That we didn’t take someone with a Kansas City Monarchs background—Holliman played for Baltimore and Birmingham,

Sometimes you just gotta roll the potato.

by CentralChamps2009 on Jun 5, 2008 5:48 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Geez, what about Buck O'Neil?

Did he make the mistake of going to college or sometihng?

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Jun 5, 2008 5:51 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

maybe the idea was to honor those who hadn't been honored

and/or are still alive

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by marbotty on Jun 5, 2008 5:52 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Scheppers

no one wants to take a flier on him? BA ranks him 10th. Profiles as a top of the rotation starter how should not make it out of the top 15. I know he has a balky elbow but TJ surgery seems to be pretty commonplace anymore. I would be interested.

by gordonrules on Jun 5, 2008 5:51 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I think Will Carroll mentioned that it might be a labrum problem

and labrum surgery is still a bitch to come back from (just ask Gil Meche).

by Gopherballs on Jun 5, 2008 5:58 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Anyone reading the mlb.com draft tracker?

On Jaff Dacker:

He has a pretty good approach as a hitter and has the chance hit for pretty good power, looking like a Matt Stairs-like right fielder in the future.

Begging the question, does Dacker actually look like Matt Stairs?

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Jun 5, 2008 5:56 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

matt stairs' name has been invoked more this draft than anyone else

not just here, but elsewhere online and by the gammons/ravech team. it’s sort of scary, actually

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by marbotty on Jun 5, 2008 5:58 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

After we win the lawsuit, who gets more money, NHZ or Me?

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Jun 5, 2008 5:59 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I think we go 50-50

just don’t tell anyone else…there are a lot of Stairs fans.

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Jun 5, 2008 6:05 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

No doubt, but we'd be the only litigious ones

From a recent BO Perlotto chat:

Matt (Mt. Albert, Ontario): Matt Stairs: first-ballot hall-of-famer, or will they make him sweat an extra year?

John Perrotto: As a person, Stairsy a first-ballot Hall of Famer as he’s one of my favorites. As a player, well …

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Jun 5, 2008 6:24 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

What you don't know is

you’ll have to accept the payment in 2006 Canadian dollars.

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on Jun 5, 2008 6:06 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

What was the exchange rate then?

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by NHZ on Jun 5, 2008 6:07 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It was already pretty good actually, for Canadians

Not as good as now.

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Jun 5, 2008 6:08 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

After all the unbelievably stupid crap said by Phillips, et. al. today "he's a ballplayer" "sixth tool"

one nice ting is that “Matt Stairs” is coming up as a standard comparison for a pretty good player. I’m being totally serious. Unless you think his crappy defense outdoes the 19-20 points of career OPS+ he has on Self-Appointed Team Leader Jose Guillen…

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Jun 5, 2008 5:58 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Probably not,

I’d say Stairs will end up being worth more over his career because of his plate discipline and how it has/will make him last longer than Jome Run Jose.

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Jun 5, 2008 6:04 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Since small sample sizes are OK sometimes, apparently (omitting names)

Jose Guillen 2008 OPS+ 97
Matt Stairs 2008 OPS+ 103

to hell with it, let’s go back a ways. Note that I’m not making any particular argument here, but’s it’s very interesting…

2007:
Guillen 116
Stairs 138

2006
Guillen 75
Stairs 92

2005
Guillen 116
Stairs 118

2004
Guillen 121
Stairs 104

2003
Guillen 142
Stairs 142

2002
Guillen 66
Stairs 118

2001
Guillen 85
Stairs 115

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Jun 5, 2008 6:14 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

And Stairs has quite a few years on Jose...

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Jun 5, 2008 6:15 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yeah, I was too lazy to go all the way back

Career OPS+ 100 for Guillen, 119 for God

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Jun 5, 2008 6:17 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

No doubt,

but Stairs’s ability to hit righties-which there are more of-has made him quite a valuable player over his career. His career 733 OPs vs. lefties isn’t good, but he isn’t totally neutered by them.

To be clear, NYRoyal, I am not saying we made a mistake by letting Stairs go or by signing Guillen. I just have always really liked Matt Stairs.

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Jun 5, 2008 6:19 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

He is definitely a valuable player

I’d much rather have him at first than Gload

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Jun 5, 2008 6:20 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Poor Ross

Slugging .295 can’t be much fun.

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by NHZ on Jun 5, 2008 6:21 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

But he's got to feel great about his contract

Quite a steal for him.

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Jun 5, 2008 6:22 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Anyone care to reconstruct GMDM's thinking

It’s fine to think Gload’s the best journeyman option out of Shelton, Broussard, et. al. Whatever. Why would he need to be given two years? Did he say he’d rather sit for a winner if he had to have a one-year contract? If so, I would say good luck and pick up another placeholder from the scrap heap.

I’m sure there’s a reason, good or bad, I’m just curious as to what it is.

Note: “He’s a good guy!” and stuff like that are bad reasons.

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Jun 5, 2008 6:30 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Well,

given that we have been rather unfortunate when it comes to finding a real live .500-or even .450-slugging first basemen who can stay healthy, I think moore’s thinking was he could be a stopgap until we “fix” first base and, after that, he could be a good bench guy.

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Jun 5, 2008 6:36 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yeah, he's a space filler since the 1B cupboard is essentially bare

Still didn’t need a 2-year deal

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Jun 5, 2008 6:37 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yup

That’s why I said there was no particular argument I’m making from the stats, like “he’s better than Guillen right now!”

To be fair, while the years I’ve picked are platooning years for Stairs, they are also his decline years. During his heyday in Oakland (when h e wasn’t exactly spry due to having years wasted for various reasons) from 1997-99, he was a really, really good hitter, sporting 3 consecutive OPS+es that Jose has only topped once in his career. Roughly eyeballing it, the platoon split doesn’t really get severe until his age 32-33 seasons, and he had some good years (with a fairly large number of at-bats) against lefties before that, including his 153 OPS+ 1997.

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Jun 5, 2008 6:37 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I call jingoism

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on Jun 5, 2008 6:38 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

allan dykstra not lenny's kid, right?

but Cutter Dykstra is. We should get him.

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by marbotty on Jun 5, 2008 6:02 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Nicole Manske

just became the first reason for me to consider paying attention to NASCAR.

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by jonfmorse on Jun 5, 2008 6:02 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Should Josh Johnson be sent to AA NW Ark

Kid is drawing a BB a game and hitting .300+. Obviously he is above the adv a level should they send him up to see if he can duplicate his work at AA.

Billy at worst will be Sean Casey jr.

by kcscoliny on Jun 5, 2008 6:12 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs