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Draft Day Overflow Thread

Hosmer it is!

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In like four years three of the guys taken today are totally gonna be Royals!

Well, if it is a good draft that is.

Consider this your Draft Day Open Thread (things get started around 2 EST supposedly, give or take some ESPN lead-in type delays). I'll be leaning on you guys today, since I don't know Smoak from Posey from Dennys Reyes. Sure, in five years somebody taken today might well become my next Shane Costa or Justin Huber, but that's only after their meaningless and ignored AAA stats are put up.

Here are two links to get us started:

  • Goldstein's Mock Draft at BP (he has the Royals taking Pedro Alvarez) and related chat.
  • Quick Goldstein hit on Hosmer: A lot of questions about why Hosmer over the big college bats, because he's more risky. He might be, but his ceiling, especially on a power level is totally ridiculous.

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I feel special

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Jun 5, 2008 4:40 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

that thread was killing my computer

by royalsreview on Jun 5, 2008 4:41 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Yea, mine too

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Jun 5, 2008 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

WORST DRAFT EVAH!!!!

DAYTON MOORE HAS SET THIS FRANCHISE BACK 20 YEARS! HOSMER IS A BUST!!!

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by RoyalsRetro on Jun 5, 2008 4:41 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Thank you again

If you don’t do that after every Royals draft pick this draft, I’m putting you on triple secret probation.

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Jun 5, 2008 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Can't wait for joelphillips42 post on Explodin's mentoring skillz

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Jun 5, 2008 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I wonder if anyone from Gload and Joel's college is going to be drafted today

Joel will be all over it.

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Jun 5, 2008 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Unless you've played the game

You should stop posting

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by RoyalsRetro on Jun 5, 2008 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

My response to him if he ever shows up and pulls that shit:

“Unless you can show me your baseball card, STFU.”

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on Jun 5, 2008 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

so i just fell asleep for like an hour or so

and it seems our pick still isn’t up? in my dreams that “Defense – Kids” ad music was playing though.

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by marbotty on Jun 5, 2008 4:43 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

In fairness

If this were the NFL Draft, we’d still be in the top five.

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by RoyalsRetro on Jun 5, 2008 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

NYY: Gerrit Cole

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on Jun 5, 2008 4:43 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Not "Old King"???

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by RoyalsRetro on Jun 5, 2008 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

actually, I'd call him "Lumberg"

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by marbotty on Jun 5, 2008 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Just to clarify...

My comparison to Adam Dunn was if Hosmer MAXED OUT.

My initial thought when I saw his swing was of the Duncan kid in StL.

by GoBabies!! on Jun 5, 2008 4:43 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

in a way

but Dunc has a pretty ugly swing, i’d say

by royalsreview on Jun 5, 2008 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I like Hosmer's swing

Good power stroke and it doesn’t look too long to me. But who knows.

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Jun 5, 2008 4:45 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I think it looks long

But I really don’t see why that’s bad. So he strikes out, so what? So long as he hits bombs, I’m cool with that.

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by RoyalsRetro on Jun 5, 2008 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

"I think think it looks long"

(Trying not to be banned by NHZ)

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Jun 5, 2008 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's what she said

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by RoyalsRetro on Jun 5, 2008 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

or he said...

(oscar’s return episode)

by royalsreview on Jun 5, 2008 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Well played

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Jun 5, 2008 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

BTW, I think it was the "Gay Witch Hunt" ep,

Season 3 Ep 1. Maybe my fav ever.

Oscar-Michael kiss + “Here Comes Treble”

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Jun 5, 2008 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i've never quite been comfortable with the running

Michael is gay subtext (esp w/regard to Ryan) but it was nicely done in that epiosde

there, I did it

one of the strangest scenes ever in a network show i’d say… i don’t think the writers even knew what the ultimate point or joke was

by royalsreview on Jun 5, 2008 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i thought the kiss was ad libbed

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by marbotty on Jun 5, 2008 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Had to get some cookies

the “Michael’s homoeroticism” thing is cheesy, I agree, although although the mancrush on Ryan is funny to me.

I think that episode was great because it showed how Michael is sympathetic and good and that it can be seen when he is behaving at some of his worst (worst aside from his over-the-top treatment of Toby).

BTW, recently I’ve been thinking that, at least pre-2007, Brian Cashman = Toby. Exactly the same facial expression in all pics.

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Jun 5, 2008 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wrong episode.

The ‘he said’ came out during Oscar’s forced coming-out-of-the-closet, not when he returns from his vacation (because of Michael)...

Sorry to be an ass, I fell kinda bad…

by rockchalk on Jun 5, 2008 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Or, you could have just read my reply above from 6 hours earlier...

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Jun 5, 2008 11:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

New tag!

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Jun 5, 2008 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I just watched season one of "Crossing Jordan" over the last week

There’s one episode where Lily asks Nigel what size he is, and he thinks she’s talking about his shoes and says “oh, 12 1/2”, and Lily’s eyes bug out…

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on Jun 5, 2008 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dunc's swing is ugly

Thats my point. I was NOT impressed by my 1st viewing of Hosmers swing (in relation to the #3 overall pick).

Again, 17 second clip…

by GoBabies!! on Jun 5, 2008 4:46 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

how many pitches for Meche tonight?

i’m thinking 130 (don’t want to spoli the game thread post, but yea)

by royalsreview on Jun 5, 2008 4:46 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I think definitely a Cat2,

and we’ll go from there. More PAP! More PAP!

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Jun 5, 2008 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

One thing about the Hosmer pick

It will give us all plenty to fret, bitch, compare other picks (esp. Smoak), acrimoniously yell at each other, make amateur single-A scouting reports, praise/damn DMGM…

So I’d say, from RR’s perspective, this might be one of the greatest draft picks of all time.

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Jun 5, 2008 4:47 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I'm reading the Baseball Think Factory Draft thread

And almost everyone hates their picks. You should hear A’s fans right now. Yow.

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by RoyalsRetro on Jun 5, 2008 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yea... baseball drafts

are like anti-NFL drafts, where everyone thinks they just drafted 5 all-pros

by royalsreview on Jun 5, 2008 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

CLE: Lonnie Chisenhall

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on Jun 5, 2008 4:48 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Oh come on

You just made that name up. Seriously? I’ve never even heard of this guy and I’ve spent a week or so studying this thing.

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by RoyalsRetro on Jun 5, 2008 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

No

If I were making names up, I’d make up names like “Virgil ‘Two-Toe’ Carrutherson” or “Ulysses Heinzschwalder”.

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on Jun 5, 2008 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Kram Namder,

space bounty hunter.

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Jun 5, 2008 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Burglary and larceny charges

Usually that’s not one of the first things you want mentioned about your first round pick.

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by RoyalsRetro on Jun 5, 2008 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

unless they're talking about stolen bases

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by marbotty on Jun 5, 2008 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Clay Bucholz!

Good Kid, though

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Jun 5, 2008 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

should be 40-45 minutes

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by marbotty on Jun 5, 2008 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

correction

30 minutes

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by marbotty on Jun 5, 2008 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The supp picks

Are only going to be one minute between picks, right? Things should start to pick up then.

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by RoyalsRetro on Jun 5, 2008 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

ah, sweet

7 minutes then

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by marbotty on Jun 5, 2008 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

back to 30 minutes

thanks for nothing Selig

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by marbotty on Jun 5, 2008 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

They should do it 10 seconds between picks

Just like speed chess.

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Jun 5, 2008 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I once beat someone

with two seconds left on my clock.

I believe I may have screamed in a primal fashion. The honor of the 2005 high school class was at stake during Spirit Week.

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Jun 5, 2008 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

A rare instance of chess-related grit

Kudos.

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Jun 5, 2008 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hey,

I wasn’t no David Eckstein, man. I was good. You have no idea-probably-how easy it is to pick up girls being the first board on the chess team.

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Jun 5, 2008 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

If only I knew

For some reason being on the football team and the debate team didn’t exactly lead me to rake in the lovelies.

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Jun 5, 2008 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

OMG,

you were a football star? Like in the Nada Surf vid?

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by NHZ on Jun 5, 2008 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Is the center ever a star?

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Jun 5, 2008 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

If you're

Chuck Bednarik, yes! Other than that…probably not.

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Jun 5, 2008 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Somehow I wasn't able to squeeze the star potential out of the position

Girls just aren’t football-smart. The center is the QB of the offensive line for god’s sake!

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Jun 5, 2008 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's too bad,

considering the ability to pick up air heads in high school is so highly correlated with success in life. We were both doomed by age 16.

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Jun 5, 2008 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

No,

but winning does.

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Jun 5, 2008 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, but are they hot?

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on Jun 5, 2008 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think your

sarcasm detector’s “low battery” button is blinking.

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Jun 5, 2008 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He might have pulled a double reverse sarcasm on you

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Jun 5, 2008 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

This.

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on Jun 5, 2008 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That.

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Jun 5, 2008 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Although

My buddy who’s a chess teacher in SF seems to have a lot of odd interactions with cute Russian girls.

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on Jun 5, 2008 5:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

"After Cherynobel, my [Stairs] fell off"

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Jun 5, 2008 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well yeah,

Russians are chessy crazy.

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Jun 5, 2008 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Chess coach = only funny thing over by Jim Belushi

but it was a Hall of Famer

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Jun 5, 2008 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

BOS: Statty McComputadora

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Jun 5, 2008 4:53 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

who do we get in the comp round?

i want melville

Accidentally not thedude925 anymore. I do hate this new name.

by wildthang on Jun 5, 2008 4:53 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I like OF Isaac Galloway

Melville does seem to be sliding

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by RoyalsRetro on Jun 5, 2008 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

BOTOX: Casey Kelly

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on Jun 5, 2008 4:54 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Wicked awesome

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by RoyalsRetro on Jun 5, 2008 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

MONEYBALL: Unathletic Rhino

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Jun 5, 2008 4:55 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, Melville is still around

He’s had the most new, intense hype of the last 10 days.

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Jun 5, 2008 4:55 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Drafting by name

If we were to do that, Shooter Hunt might be our man.

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Jun 5, 2008 4:56 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

+1

The only way his name could be better is if Hunt was actually his middle name and his last was “McGavin.”

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by NHZ on Jun 5, 2008 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

+1

McGavin should definitely be his nickname.

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Jun 5, 2008 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Now I REALLY want him on our team..

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by NHZ on Jun 5, 2008 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Josh Fields has

MELTED helmet hair.

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on Jun 5, 2008 4:57 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

and he’s invoked God 32545235 times in the last 45 seconds.

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on Jun 5, 2008 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Moore didn't draft this kid????????

WTF?

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Jun 5, 2008 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Apparently haircuts are out of fashion

These kids today.

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Jun 5, 2008 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Conner Gillaspie

is still avaliable. I would take a serious look at him or if Scheppers or Hunt are still there. They rank 10 and 11 in BA.

by gordonrules on Jun 5, 2008 4:59 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

what's the odds on

multiple high school pitchers during the next two picks by the Royals?

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by marbotty on Jun 5, 2008 5:02 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I'd say

4-1 against.

by Bart41 on Jun 5, 2008 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Moore can completely turn around this botched draft if he picks Shooter Hunt

I.want.that.name.in.our.organization.

Period.

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Jun 5, 2008 5:02 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Colt Griffin.

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on Jun 5, 2008 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's only one good name

not good enough

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Jun 5, 2008 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Who drafted Rowdy Hardy?

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Jun 5, 2008 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

No one

But the Royals were smart enough to sign the undrafted fifth year senior.

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Jun 5, 2008 5:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Was it Baird or Moore?

Because if we’re doing a “How bad was Baird, really?” thread again (inevitable, no matter what happens), that needs to be on the ledger one way or the other.

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Jun 5, 2008 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think it was Baird, but I'd have to check

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Jun 5, 2008 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Twas Deric Ladnier

DM wasn’t yet hired and Allard had been fired.

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by RoyalsRetro on Jun 5, 2008 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The question will never be decided, then

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Jun 5, 2008 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

it's a massive plus for someone

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Jun 5, 2008 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I love the compensation round...

guys like Trever Miller, Ron Mahay, and Pedro Feliz are now relevant.

by Bart41 on Jun 5, 2008 5:02 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

And Johnny Damon

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Jun 5, 2008 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I like how

The draft compensation for Doug Brocail and David Riske is higher than the draft compensation for MIke Cameron.

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by RoyalsRetro on Jun 5, 2008 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The next five picks

belong to Min, Mil, Nym,Phi, and Mil.

by gordonrules on Jun 5, 2008 5:04 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I would think

Mil or Phi will pick up either or both Scheppers and Hunt.

by gordonrules on Jun 5, 2008 5:05 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Supposedly

Seattle’s team doctor gave the “okay” on Scheppers. I’d still be awfully wary.

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by RoyalsRetro on Jun 5, 2008 5:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Seattle approval = kiss of death

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Jun 5, 2008 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Also

how about Germy getting an extended look at SS?

by gordonrules on Jun 5, 2008 5:06 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

It's weird

Clearly they are showcasing him as a UI who can play all IF positions. The problem is, he really can’t.

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Jun 5, 2008 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

SHHHH

Don’t tell the Dodgers!

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by RoyalsRetro on Jun 5, 2008 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think we all need a break from TPJ...

but I’m pretty sure he’ll be back to haunt us frequently, and probably have a majority of the starts the rest of the season nonetheless.

by Bart41 on Jun 5, 2008 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

In all seriousness, I don't think he'll get the majority of SS starts for the rest of the season

Although a Grudz trade could change that

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Jun 5, 2008 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

TPJ or German?

I was saying TPJ will be back starting before long.

by Bart41 on Jun 5, 2008 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

TPJ won't get the major of SS starts

my fearless forecast

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Jun 5, 2008 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

+1

I wonder if we can get someone to take Pena as a utility infielder for the stretch run…

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Jun 5, 2008 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

And then how far will Melville fall?

His draft slot isn’t matching his recent hype.

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Jun 5, 2008 5:06 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

BA says

probably won’t follow through on a commitment to UNC unless he fell out of the 1st round

by gordonrules on Jun 5, 2008 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

riske was soooo much better than linebrink

we totally should have gotten our pick ahead of the brewers

Accidentally not thedude925 anymore. I do hate this new name.

by wildthang on Jun 5, 2008 5:07 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

+1

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Jun 5, 2008 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

All about the rep...

Linebrink was/is costing on a reputation he built in 2005-06.

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by NHZ on Jun 5, 2008 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

What's going on now?

Why no drafting?

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by RoyalsRetro on Jun 5, 2008 5:11 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

15 min break before comp round

break almost over

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Jun 5, 2008 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The action has stopped

as the security men try to locate Steve Phillips’s wind-up key.

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by NHZ on Jun 5, 2008 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Five relievers went in the first round

I still don’t like the idea of drafting relief pitchers in the first round.

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Jun 5, 2008 5:12 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

It was a reliever heavy draft

But yea, I agree. Its like drafting a kicker in the NFL Draft.

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by RoyalsRetro on Jun 5, 2008 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't think it's THAT bad

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by NHZ on Jun 5, 2008 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not quite

But its still kinda silly unless your organization is just loaded.

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by RoyalsRetro on Jun 5, 2008 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

But when you draft a kicker/punter,

you’ve instantly made a huge mistake because it’s been proven that 1) the best kickers and punters are well-scouted undrafted players and 2) a kicker or a punter can only be a kicker or a punter, obviously.

When you draft a college reliever with two plus pitches who you think can learn on the job, it’s possible to entertain the idea of converting him to starter. People who are college relievers have almost always started in high school.

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Jun 5, 2008 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Or punter

or kick returner

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Jun 5, 2008 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Are you familar

withe Robopunter?

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by NHZ on Jun 5, 2008 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Darin Erstad?

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Jun 5, 2008 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

No,

He’s a gritty punter, but also The High School Hockey Star.

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Jun 5, 2008 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Me neither,

but there is the thought that you can convert a college reliever with more than one plus offering into a starter and benefit from the lack of mileage on his arm.

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Jun 5, 2008 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's true

If you like the pitches and think he’d make a good starter, that changes things.

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Jun 5, 2008 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes, and if it's

a situation where you’re drafting the player specifically to fasttrack to the bullpen, I don’t get why that type of player is targeted in the first round.

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Jun 5, 2008 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Shaun Marcum is an example here

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Jun 5, 2008 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

MIN: Shooter Hunt

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on Jun 5, 2008 5:12 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Damn, damn, damn, damn, damn

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Jun 5, 2008 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Shit, shit, shit, shit, shit.

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by NHZ on Jun 5, 2008 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Draft ruined

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Jun 5, 2008 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Year ruined

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by NHZ on Jun 5, 2008 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Life ruined

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by jonfmorse on Jun 5, 2008 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

jinx again

WTF man?

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by NYRoyal on Jun 5, 2008 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Organization ruined

Perhaps life ruined.

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Jun 5, 2008 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Baseball ruined

Perhaps galaxy ruined.

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by NHZ on Jun 5, 2008 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

history of all time and space
ruined mildly disturbed

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by marbotty on Jun 5, 2008 5:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

it is over

2 picks already

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Jun 5, 2008 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

There's this brilliant invention called

television

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by jonfmorse on Jun 5, 2008 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ouch!

I still think you have precognition.

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Jun 5, 2008 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

MIL: Jake Odorizzi

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by jonfmorse on Jun 5, 2008 5:14 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

this is a scary looking guy

Accidentally not thedude925 anymore. I do hate this new name.

by wildthang on Jun 5, 2008 5:14 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Scary looks are a good grit factor

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Jun 5, 2008 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

RRRRRRRRRRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWGHGHG

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by NHZ on Jun 5, 2008 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

+1, Rec'd

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Jun 5, 2008 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

NYM: Brad Holt

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by jonfmorse on Jun 5, 2008 5:15 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Clearly there's lots of worry about Melville's signability

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Jun 5, 2008 5:16 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

let's get all Roscoe Crosby on his arse

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by marbotty on Jun 5, 2008 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Step one: Draft

Step Two: throw money well above slot at him.
Step Three: We win!

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by NHZ on Jun 5, 2008 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

omg

theres a mike montgomery??

WE NEED HIM!!!

Accidentally not thedude925 anymore. I do hate this new name.

by wildthang on Jun 5, 2008 5:16 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

wow

wasnt actually expecting us to pick him

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by wildthang on Jun 5, 2008 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

meh

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by marbotty on Jun 5, 2008 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

PHI: Zach Collier

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by jonfmorse on Jun 5, 2008 5:17 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

here we go!

Accidentally not thedude925 anymore. I do hate this new name.

by wildthang on Jun 5, 2008 5:18 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

MIL: I have no idea.

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by jonfmorse on Jun 5, 2008 5:18 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

(they talked over the announcement, didn’t repeat it, and haven’t even put it up on a chiron yet)

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by jonfmorse on Jun 5, 2008 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

odorizzi

also called “stinky”

by Bart41 on Jun 5, 2008 5:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

No, that was the pick before

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by jonfmorse on Jun 5, 2008 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Evan Fredericksen

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by jonfmorse on Jun 5, 2008 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

KC: Mike Montgomery

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by jonfmorse on Jun 5, 2008 5:19 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

The new basketball coach at Cal?

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by RoyalsRetro on Jun 5, 2008 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Michael Montgomery!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1111

Anybody know this guy?

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Jun 5, 2008 5:19 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

LHP

kicked off basketball team for too many technical fouls. 6-4 180.

by gordonrules on Jun 5, 2008 5:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Low grit factor

technical fouls are a bad sign. He’s probably the next Rasheed Wallace.

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Jun 5, 2008 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sounds like another good character guy

Hope he isn’t a baby or Jose Guillen will yell at him.

Relive Royals History at royalsretro.blogspot.com

by RoyalsRetro on Jun 5, 2008 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Jose Guillen = Max Character Factor over 113 out of possible 107

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Jun 5, 2008 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

"Entire team is babies!"

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by NHZ on Jun 5, 2008 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Profiles

as middle of the rotation starter.

by gordonrules on Jun 5, 2008 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

SF: Connor Gillespie

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by jonfmorse on Jun 5, 2008 5:20 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

89-92 HS lefty

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Jun 5, 2008 5:20 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

always sexy

Accidentally not thedude925 anymore. I do hate this new name.

by wildthang on Jun 5, 2008 5:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He has grit!!!

Ravech says he “has an edge to him” because he was kicked off of his HS basketball team for getting too many technicals!

Grit, baby. Grit.

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Jun 5, 2008 5:21 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

If he meant that in a positive way...

that means Ravech said something positive about the Royals, doesn’t it?

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Jun 5, 2008 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

kind of

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Jun 5, 2008 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

HOU: Jordan Liles

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by jonfmorse on Jun 5, 2008 5:21 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Can't find him on Baseball America's Top 200

Not a good sign

Relive Royals History at royalsretro.blogspot.com

by RoyalsRetro on Jun 5, 2008 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

if our next pick is a high school pitcher

i win the trifecta

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by marbotty on Jun 5, 2008 5:21 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

STL: Mike Lynn

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by jonfmorse on Jun 5, 2008 5:22 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Montgomery

89-92 fastball, but at 6-4, 180, he has a projectable body and should add some mph to that fastball. Most tall, strong HS pitchers do add velocity over the next few years.

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Jun 5, 2008 5:22 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

he was the #36 rated talent by Goldstein

profile posted in other thread, but here’s something

“It’s a lot of projection at this time, as right now he has no pitch that grades out more than average.”

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by marbotty on Jun 5, 2008 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

But Moore and his people like him

:)

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Jun 5, 2008 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

ATL: Brett Devall

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by jonfmorse on Jun 5, 2008 5:23 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

CHC: Ryan Flaherty

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by jonfmorse on Jun 5, 2008 5:24 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

SD: Jeff Decker

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by jonfmorse on Jun 5, 2008 5:25 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

the graphic calls him "Jaff"

Jaff is an awesome name.

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by marbotty on Jun 5, 2008 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I've heard his name linked to us

I think Sickels said it.

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by RoyalsRetro on Jun 5, 2008 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

poor Sickels

he probably spent hours coming up with that, whereas I just looked for the closest high school pitcher rated in the 45 – 55 range

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by marbotty on Jun 5, 2008 5:32 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

ARI: Wade Miley

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by jonfmorse on Jun 5, 2008 5:26 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

NYY: Jeremy Boitch?

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by jonfmorse on Jun 5, 2008 5:27 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Beutsche

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by NYRoyal on Jun 5, 2008 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

thanx

no chiron at all on that one

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by jonfmorse on Jun 5, 2008 5:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

BOTOX: Bryan Price

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by jonfmorse on Jun 5, 2008 5:28 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

SD: John Forsythe

Two picks between KC and Melville…

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by jonfmorse on Jun 5, 2008 5:29 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

We'd have to give him first round money to keep him from going to college

If the Yankees weren’t willing to do it with their supp pick, I don’t think the Royals will.

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Jun 5, 2008 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Never know

If Dayton’s got Glass convinced you have to spend the money in the draft, and if Glass is now okay with telling Bud to go pick his own ass…

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on Jun 5, 2008 5:32 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Supp round over

Round 2 doesn’t start until 6:15 eastern time

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Jun 5, 2008 5:29 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I hope

ESPN.com hasn’t even touched the supplemental round yet.

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by jonfmorse on Jun 5, 2008 5:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

MLB.com has a life draft tracker on the main page

it’s nice

winning records follow good bullpens

by slayor on Jun 5, 2008 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

live even

winning records follow good bullpens

by slayor on Jun 5, 2008 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Why?

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Jun 5, 2008 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

this was random but I agree

Cameron is a better player than Guillen and cost less

by playingwithfire on Jun 5, 2008 5:46 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Cameron

is hitting .220/.286/.441 for an OPS+ of 87 with a bad injury history. There’s a reason he cost less.

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by NHZ on Jun 5, 2008 5:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

45 minute break now?

well, i’m off to bed then

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by marbotty on Jun 5, 2008 5:31 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

In unrelated news

Todd Wellemeyer is now 7-1 with a 2.92 ERA for the Cardinals

winning records follow good bullpens

by slayor on Jun 5, 2008 5:31 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Shut up :P

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Jun 5, 2008 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

If you're keeping score at home.....

Use Baseball America’s draft database

by adschofield on Jun 5, 2008 5:35 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Thoughts on second round pick?

I really want OF Isaac Galloway now. He’s just sitting there, waiting to be a Royal.

SS Tyler Ladendorf looks great too.

P Tyler Sample has control issues, but is 6’7’’ and can bring heat.

SS Niko Vazquez has a nice swing, but may have to move to 2B.

Relive Royals History at royalsretro.blogspot.com

by RoyalsRetro on Jun 5, 2008 5:38 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

i want ladendorf

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by marbotty on Jun 5, 2008 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ladendorf or Galloway.

Either one would make sense to me. We already have Montgomery as a pitcher, and I want the Royals to go hitter heavy this draft.

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Jun 5, 2008 5:42 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agree

Both will probably end up in the outfield, but both are burners, which DM seems to like.

Relive Royals History at royalsretro.blogspot.com

by RoyalsRetro on Jun 5, 2008 5:46 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

You guys are forgetting projectability! currency of baseball! and so on!

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Jun 5, 2008 5:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hah.

Ravech: “How’s that make you feel, being the father of someone about to hit his 600th home run?”
Griffey Sr.: “OLD?”

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on Jun 5, 2008 5:39 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Who did we get as our token Negro League player?

in the Negro League living-player draft or whatever.

by mazoboom on Jun 5, 2008 5:46 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Ulysses Hollimon

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by RoyalsRetro on Jun 5, 2008 5:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I found it odd

That we didn’t take someone with a Kansas City Monarchs background—Holliman played for Baltimore and Birmingham,

Sometimes you just gotta roll the potato.

by CentralChamps2009 on Jun 5, 2008 5:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Geez, what about Buck O'Neil?

Did he make the mistake of going to college or sometihng?

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Jun 5, 2008 5:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

maybe the idea was to honor those who hadn't been honored

and/or are still alive

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by marbotty on Jun 5, 2008 5:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

They had to be living Negro Leaguers

Sometimes you just gotta roll the potato.

by CentralChamps2009 on Jun 5, 2008 5:53 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Scheppers

no one wants to take a flier on him? BA ranks him 10th. Profiles as a top of the rotation starter how should not make it out of the top 15. I know he has a balky elbow but TJ surgery seems to be pretty commonplace anymore. I would be interested.

by gordonrules on Jun 5, 2008 5:51 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I think Will Carroll mentioned that it might be a labrum problem

and labrum surgery is still a bitch to come back from (just ask Gil Meche).

by Gopherballs on Jun 5, 2008 5:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Anyone reading the mlb.com draft tracker?

On Jaff Dacker:

He has a pretty good approach as a hitter and has the chance hit for pretty good power, looking like a Matt Stairs-like right fielder in the future.

Begging the question, does Dacker actually look like Matt Stairs?

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Jun 5, 2008 5:56 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

matt stairs' name has been invoked more this draft than anyone else

not just here, but elsewhere online and by the gammons/ravech team. it’s sort of scary, actually

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by marbotty on Jun 5, 2008 5:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

After we win the lawsuit, who gets more money, NHZ or Me?

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Jun 5, 2008 5:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think we go 50-50

just don’t tell anyone else…there are a lot of Stairs fans.

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Jun 5, 2008 6:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

No doubt, but we'd be the only litigious ones

From a recent BO Perlotto chat:

Matt (Mt. Albert, Ontario): Matt Stairs: first-ballot hall-of-famer, or will they make him sweat an extra year?

John Perrotto: As a person, Stairsy a first-ballot Hall of Famer as he’s one of my favorites. As a player, well …

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Jun 5, 2008 6:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

What you don't know is

you’ll have to accept the payment in 2006 Canadian dollars.

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on Jun 5, 2008 6:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

What was the exchange rate then?

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by NHZ on Jun 5, 2008 6:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It was already pretty good actually, for Canadians

Not as good as now.

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Jun 5, 2008 6:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

After all the unbelievably stupid crap said by Phillips, et. al. today "he's a ballplayer" "sixth tool"

one nice ting is that “Matt Stairs” is coming up as a standard comparison for a pretty good player. I’m being totally serious. Unless you think his crappy defense outdoes the 19-20 points of career OPS+ he has on Self-Appointed Team Leader Jose Guillen…

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Jun 5, 2008 5:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Probably not,

I’d say Stairs will end up being worth more over his career because of his plate discipline and how it has/will make him last longer than Jome Run Jose.

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Jun 5, 2008 6:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Since small sample sizes are OK sometimes, apparently (omitting names)

Jose Guillen 2008 OPS+ 97
Matt Stairs 2008 OPS+ 103

to hell with it, let’s go back a ways. Note that I’m not making any particular argument here, but’s it’s very interesting…

2007:
Guillen 116
Stairs 138

2006
Guillen 75
Stairs 92

2005
Guillen 116
Stairs 118

2004
Guillen 121
Stairs 104

2003
Guillen 142
Stairs 142

2002
Guillen 66
Stairs 118

2001
Guillen 85
Stairs 115

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Jun 5, 2008 6:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

And Stairs has quite a few years on Jose...

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by NHZ on Jun 5, 2008 6:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, I was too lazy to go all the way back

Career OPS+ 100 for Guillen, 119 for God

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Jun 5, 2008 6:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

No doubt,

but Stairs’s ability to hit righties-which there are more of-has made him quite a valuable player over his career. His career 733 OPs vs. lefties isn’t good, but he isn’t totally neutered by them.

To be clear, NYRoyal, I am not saying we made a mistake by letting Stairs go or by signing Guillen. I just have always really liked Matt Stairs.

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Jun 5, 2008 6:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He is definitely a valuable player

I’d much rather have him at first than Gload

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Jun 5, 2008 6:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Poor Ross

Slugging .295 can’t be much fun.

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by NHZ on Jun 5, 2008 6:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

But he's got to feel great about his contract

Quite a steal for him.

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Jun 5, 2008 6:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Anyone care to reconstruct GMDM's thinking

It’s fine to think Gload’s the best journeyman option out of Shelton, Broussard, et. al. Whatever. Why would he need to be given two years? Did he say he’d rather sit for a winner if he had to have a one-year contract? If so, I would say good luck and pick up another placeholder from the scrap heap.

I’m sure there’s a reason, good or bad, I’m just curious as to what it is.

Note: “He’s a good guy!” and stuff like that are bad reasons.

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Jun 5, 2008 6:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well,

given that we have been rather unfortunate when it comes to finding a real live .500-or even .450-slugging first basemen who can stay healthy, I think moore’s thinking was he could be a stopgap until we “fix” first base and, after that, he could be a good bench guy.

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Jun 5, 2008 6:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, he's a space filler since the 1B cupboard is essentially bare

Still didn’t need a 2-year deal

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Jun 5, 2008 6:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yup

That’s why I said there was no particular argument I’m making from the stats, like “he’s better than Guillen right now!”

To be fair, while the years I’ve picked are platooning years for Stairs, they are also his decline years. During his heyday in Oakland (when h e wasn’t exactly spry due to having years wasted for various reasons) from 1997-99, he was a really, really good hitter, sporting 3 consecutive OPS+es that Jose has only topped once in his career. Roughly eyeballing it, the platoon split doesn’t really get severe until his age 32-33 seasons, and he had some good years (with a fairly large number of at-bats) against lefties before that, including his 153 OPS+ 1997.

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Jun 5, 2008 6:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I call jingoism

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on Jun 5, 2008 6:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

allan dykstra not lenny's kid, right?

but Cutter Dykstra is. We should get him.

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by marbotty on Jun 5, 2008 6:02 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Nicole Manske

just became the first reason for me to consider paying attention to NASCAR.

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by jonfmorse on Jun 5, 2008 6:02 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Should Josh Johnson be sent to AA NW Ark

Kid is drawing a BB a game and hitting .300+. Obviously he is above the adv a level should they send him up to see if he can duplicate his work at AA.

Billy at worst will be Sean Casey jr.

by kcscoliny on Jun 5, 2008 6:12 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I think so

He’s 22 and this is his second year at high-A and third year at the A-ball level. He’s dominating his current level, so it is time to move up. If not right now, then certainly by the ASB.

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Jun 5, 2008 6:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

+1

Those are not the stats of somehow who needs a lot A-ball.

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Jun 5, 2008 6:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

When does round 2 start?

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by NHZ on Jun 5, 2008 6:13 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

6:15 eastern

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Jun 5, 2008 6:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

lets draft somebody really good

its a brilliant strategy

Accidentally not thedude925 anymore. I do hate this new name.

by wildthang on Jun 5, 2008 6:19 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

BRILLIANT!!!

What doesn't kill us only brings us closer to death

by ksuroyals on Jun 5, 2008 6:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nonsense

Drafting shitty players is much more effective

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on Jun 5, 2008 6:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Really good players are overrated

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Jun 5, 2008 6:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

+1

Someone could be a “really good player,” but the question is, are they a “baseball player.”

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Jun 5, 2008 6:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Bastard!

So…when does it start?

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Jun 5, 2008 6:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

No idea now.

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Jun 5, 2008 6:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

here we go

2 picks away

Accidentally not thedude925 anymore. I do hate this new name.

by wildthang on Jun 5, 2008 6:23 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

TB: Kyle Lobster

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on Jun 5, 2008 6:23 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Wait, for real?

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Jun 5, 2008 6:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Lobstein, but yes.

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by jonfmorse on Jun 5, 2008 6:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nickname possibilities

“Rock”
“Maine”
“Soft shell”

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Jun 5, 2008 6:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

"Red"

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by NHZ on Jun 5, 2008 6:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

wow

scheppers

Accidentally not thedude925 anymore. I do hate this new name.

by wildthang on Jun 5, 2008 6:24 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

PIT: Scheppers

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by jonfmorse on Jun 5, 2008 6:25 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

KC:Johnny Giovatella

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by jonfmorse on Jun 5, 2008 6:25 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Who is he?

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Jun 5, 2008 6:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Giavotella, sorry

2B, junior from U New Orleans

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by jonfmorse on Jun 5, 2008 6:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Mob Boss

I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.

by philofthenorth on Jun 5, 2008 7:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sounds like

Those guys know how to get things done

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Jun 5, 2008 7:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't want a torn labrum in the second round

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Jun 5, 2008 6:26 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

KC: Johnny Giovatella, 2B, New Orleans

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Jun 5, 2008 6:26 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Maybe he won't stay at second?

You do have to take the positions in the draft with a grain of salt.

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Jun 5, 2008 6:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

very true

anyone have any fielding/defense scouting?

by I need more Esteban on Jun 5, 2008 6:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah, we have no idea

But if he as a MIFer in college, then one can guess that he has the D for that position. If he can play that position, he can play the OF. The only important question is can he hit?

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Jun 5, 2008 6:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Even if he can't hit, good D saves 1-2 runs a game

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Jun 5, 2008 6:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

“Pena’s defense is four runs below average for every 100 games played, and he’s already cost the Royals two runs defensively in addition to his issues at the plate.”

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on Jun 5, 2008 6:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

You did miss the sarcasm this time

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Jun 5, 2008 6:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

No I didn't

I just like posting that quote.

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on Jun 5, 2008 6:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Position?

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Jun 5, 2008 6:26 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Second

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by NHZ on Jun 5, 2008 6:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

A college hitter!

Everyone happy now?

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Jun 5, 2008 6:27 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

No. No, I'm not.

Who the hell is this guy? He’s 5’8”, which means he’s really probably 5’6”

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by jonfmorse on Jun 5, 2008 6:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

BA says

premium plate discipline and suprising power.

by gordonrules on Jun 5, 2008 6:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

BAL: Xavier Avery

Jeez, THAT name rolls off the tongue!

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by NHZ on Jun 5, 2008 6:27 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

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OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Jun 5, 2008 6:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

High school CF

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by NHZ on Jun 5, 2008 6:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well, who the hell these guys are is all (blank) to me

I was trying to avoid being banned for saying (blank)

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Jun 5, 2008 6:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

(blank)

Don’t worry about me (blank)ing you over for saying (blank), (blank)er.

I just like the guy’s name. Xavier Avery. Say it four times fast.

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Jun 5, 2008 6:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

TPJ still sucks...

felt that needed to be added.

by blue bandwagon on Jun 5, 2008 6:29 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

So, what is successful for these first 3 picks.

if 1 out of 3 make it to the Royals and are good players. Is that good? I feel like it is, or are we greedy and wanting it to be 2 of them?

by I need more Esteban on Jun 5, 2008 6:30 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

What NYRoyal says below is true,

but it’s rather nice if you can get two good players in your top three, seeing as the lower draft picks can be much more of a crapshoot.

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Jun 5, 2008 6:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

From projectprospect.com
Johnny Giavotella 2B New Orleans

I’ve written about Giavotella in the Hot/Cold series before and he remains one of my favorite draft sleepers, even after ending the season on a mild cold streak. Listed at 5-foot-8-inches tall and a 185 pounds, what Giavotella lacks in physicality he makes up for with a fantastic combination of personal grit and – more importantly – baseball skill. Giavotella has struck out just 8% of the time this season while walking in nearly 18% of his plate appearances. While he may not hit for as much power as he has in college (.237 IsoP, 35.7% XBH), he is strong and reminds me more than a little bit of Dustin Pedroia.

GRIT!!!!!!!!!111

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Jun 5, 2008 6:31 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

nooooo

you made that grit part up!

by I need more Esteban on Jun 5, 2008 6:32 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It sounds like me...but it's for real

And I’m sure his grit is for real too.

The good news is that he has good plate discipline and power too.

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Jun 5, 2008 6:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dustin Pedroia

How can you go wrong with that.

Billy at worst will be Sean Casey jr.

by kcscoliny on Jun 5, 2008 6:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Given that Pedroia is a ML second basemen

who had a good rookie year, yes.

I do wonder if any other person following the Sox other than me has noticed that he has a .316 OBP Now that he’s not hitting .320.

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Jun 5, 2008 6:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

When you have a great rookie season and you are a Red Sox

...it is going to take 2 consecutive bad years before anyone starts thinking that he might not be a great young player.

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Jun 5, 2008 6:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He'll be the next Eckstein, 2-1

Somehow I doubt that firejoemorgan will make him “example boy” that much though. Just a hunch.

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Jun 5, 2008 6:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

You have no idea

And what do I hear about guy?

“Pedroia really gets everything he has into his swing!”
“Pedroia makes so many good diving plays!”

Good grief. It’d be a lot more impressive if he A) was OBPing league average or B) had a good RZR. His is .826.

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Jun 5, 2008 6:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Pedroia diving plays = bad sign for NHZ's future sanity

You know who else makes diving plays that impress people who “see him play every day?” Derek Jeter.

Because it’s an indication of skill, not a lack of range.

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Jun 5, 2008 6:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He does have plus-plus grit

that is undeniable

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Jun 5, 2008 6:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Shut up.

You’re going to give me gray hair. Your normal arguments are fine, and contribute a lot to this blog…but telling me about Pedroia’s plus-plus grit is where I draw the line.

(spasm)

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Jun 5, 2008 6:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I know it's mean

...but I tell the unvarnished truth. I’m sorry.

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Jun 5, 2008 6:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

ARGH

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO it can’t be true.

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Jun 5, 2008 6:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Let me add.,,

that that’s about average for an AL second basemen, but certainly not great. Neither are his OOZ.

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Jun 5, 2008 6:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Cool.

Sounds like a good guy to take in the second round.

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Jun 5, 2008 6:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

A guy who can walk .180 has value

as long as he can actually hit .100

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on Jun 5, 2008 6:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's going to be fun

to have more hitters to watch in the minors now. Mous, Hosmer, Glavotella…..are there any others?? (ouch, if there aren’t)

by I need more Esteban on Jun 5, 2008 6:36 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

There are some others

Not a bunch of maybe starts, but Josh Johnson, Joe Dickerson and some others are out there.

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Jun 5, 2008 6:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

US Open digression

Woods, Mickelson, and Scott are paired for the first two rounds.

That’s gonna be ugly.

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on Jun 5, 2008 6:36 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I'd love to se a Woods, Mickelson fist fight

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Jun 5, 2008 6:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Jim Rome is disappointed

He wants it to be Woods/Mickleson/Singh or Sabbatini

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on Jun 5, 2008 6:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think that tops me taking on NHZ and his parrot

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Jun 5, 2008 6:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Squaaaaaaawk!

Pete disagrees.

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Jun 5, 2008 6:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I would like to see KC

go on a run of college hitters

Billy at worst will be Sean Casey jr.

by kcscoliny on Jun 5, 2008 6:38 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Why?

I definitely prefer higher upside guys, particularly in the 3+ rounds.

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Jun 5, 2008 6:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Why go on any run?

It doesn’t work in fantasy, why would it work in real baseball?

(And yes, we all know that fantasy is a great model for real baseball management. Fantasy > Reality)

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Jun 5, 2008 6:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Need more

plate discipline in the org.

Billy at worst will be Sean Casey jr.

by kcscoliny on Jun 5, 2008 6:42 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Fudge!

Coco Crisp just charged James Shields, ducked a punch from Shields, and then got crushed by Dioner Navarro.

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Jun 5, 2008 6:44 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

hahaha

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on Jun 5, 2008 6:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Does "Coco" (the name) have grit

or just crunch? Or is it just soggy from the milk?

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Jun 5, 2008 6:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

good

dirty slide yesterday

by cfizzle on Jun 5, 2008 6:46 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's why

they hit him with a pitch, I believe.

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by NHZ on Jun 5, 2008 6:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That and he

was arguin with their coach from the dugout

Billy at worst will be Sean Casey jr.

by kcscoliny on Jun 5, 2008 6:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I liked him.

Georgia HS kid, no surprise the Braves took him. Legally, I believe they have to take every Georgia high schooler available.

Relive Royals History at royalsretro.blogspot.com

by RoyalsRetro on Jun 5, 2008 6:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Royals

need to brawl tonight. Nothing breeds team unity like a good fight.

Billy at worst will be Sean Casey jr.

by kcscoliny on Jun 5, 2008 6:49 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

The Chisox are a great team to brawl with

I would personally love to punch A.J. Pierzynski in the face.

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Jun 5, 2008 6:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Is there anyone who doesn't?

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by NHZ on Jun 5, 2008 6:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes

those who want to punch him in th wiener© RoyalsRetro

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Jun 5, 2008 6:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wow

I’m not used to you getting this emotional. :P

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by NHZ on Jun 5, 2008 6:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

AJP brings out the best in me

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Jun 5, 2008 7:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I knew much good would come of

me starting to call for violence against his person Tuesday night.

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on Jun 5, 2008 7:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I Was And

Still am right there with you on that one.

I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.

by philofthenorth on Jun 5, 2008 7:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

This morning on 810

Nate Bukaty asked John Buck about the crap with A.J and Zack on Tuesday. Buck said that Pierzysynski claimed that: ” On a radio show, Zack said that he was going to hit Pierzynski”. Buck didn’t really say much after that, he was definitely trying to avoid the question. Maybe you guys have seen this but I hadn’t heard it talked about anywhere…..Oh yeah, Pierzynski sucks a fat one

by I need more Esteban on Jun 5, 2008 6:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nothing illustrates

immaturity and gets suspensions handed out like a good fight.

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Jun 5, 2008 6:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Screw that Frank White

said they need to plunk some ChiSox for last night plus I wanna see Alex invite people to the GunShow. Meche is the perfect guy too vet with decent size.

Billy at worst will be Sean Casey jr.

by kcscoliny on Jun 5, 2008 6:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Okay,

so maybe they “need” to plunk someone…but I don’t think a brawl helps anything.

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Jun 5, 2008 6:53 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Brawls

just happen after the plunkin begins. Especially with a wise ass mouthed team like the ChiSox. Hillman should plunk Guillen when they hand in the lineup cards.

Billy at worst will be Sean Casey jr.

by kcscoliny on Jun 5, 2008 6:55 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Brawls,

unlike plunking someone on the ass with a pitch, carry the risk of actually getting people injured or suspended over…what? Some stupid pride issue?

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Jun 5, 2008 6:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

+1

Let’s send Aviles to punch out AJ.

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by NHZ on Jun 5, 2008 7:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Let Aviles Pitch

When it’s plunkin’ time.

I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.

by philofthenorth on Jun 5, 2008 7:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Gordon-directed homoeroticism rules

Frank White: baseball code of fighting::
George Brett: psychological edge of having a great closer

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Jun 5, 2008 6:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

You gotta listen to the Golden Gods

of Royals Baseball. Shit what do the rest of the chumps in this org know compared to the actual stars who wore Powder Blue and White.

Billy at worst will be Sean Casey jr.

by kcscoliny on Jun 5, 2008 6:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Giovetella

Seems like a bit of a reach, but I like his player profile. 5-8 though egads, that’s as tall as me!

Relive Royals History at royalsretro.blogspot.com

by RoyalsRetro on Jun 5, 2008 6:52 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Italians rule

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Jun 5, 2008 6:55 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Shields gets ejected, after smartly hitting Julio Lugo

Simmons was right about one thing: if there’s one team you don’t want to fight (especially if you’re the Sox), it’s the Devil Rays. Too many young badasses. Fortuneatley Delmon and Dukes are gone…

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Jun 5, 2008 6:53 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Still,

I wish everyone here had seen what happened to Crisp when he charged the mound. Trust me, Tampa still has some big guys…and about 24 guys bigger than Crisp. Navarro tackled him to the ground and Johnny Gomes began throwing punches at him…ow. And that’s without mentioning the other two Rays who were trying to get a punch in edgewise before the Sox rescued foolish Coco.

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Jun 5, 2008 6:55 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Which means "Coco is a moron"

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on Jun 5, 2008 6:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thank you, doctor.

Yes, I’m pretty sure if I was Coco I wouldn’t have started that fight.

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Jun 5, 2008 6:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hey, I'm agreeing with you

Gomes is another guy I like, and he is badass. I know he talks trash and stuff too much, but he’s big, and has decent power. I mean, it’s not like he’d hit any higher than 4th for the rays.

Anyway, Upton, Crawford, Hinske, and Pena are no wusses. Youkilis’ horrifying Dimebag Darrell-esque facial hair conceals an essential softness, Manny’s a Manny of peace, Varitek’s a male pormstar in atheletes clothing… no contest

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Jun 5, 2008 6:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Varitek will kick ass,

but Manny, having always reminded me a bit of Ferdinand the Bull, probably wouldn’t care much for a fight.

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Jun 5, 2008 6:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I forgot about J. D. Drew!

I guess I need to radically revise my picking the “Rays” in a brawl

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Jun 5, 2008 7:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

J.D. Drew

is actually a secret “Jason Bourne”-esque agent by night. He is a stone cold killer with a .400 OBP.

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Jun 5, 2008 7:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It'll all go to hell

once he realizes he was born Bobby Higginson

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on Jun 5, 2008 7:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well played

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Jun 5, 2008 7:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

it will be on espn for weeks

fight + redsox = sportscenter

by cfizzle on Jun 5, 2008 6:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Turning point in pennant race!

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Jun 5, 2008 6:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yankees draft another name:

Joseph Bittle

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on Jun 5, 2008 6:53 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

KC 3rd Round: TYLER SAMPLE

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on Jun 5, 2008 6:58 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Sample in the 3rd

He is a project. Big kid though that throws 95 MPH…I like the pick

Billy at worst will be Sean Casey jr.

by kcscoliny on Jun 5, 2008 6:59 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Guy on Mlb.com

Loved the pick…said he has one of the best curveballs in the draft. Throws 95 with a plus curve sounds like a closer.

Billy at worst will be Sean Casey jr.

by kcscoliny on Jun 5, 2008 7:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

NYRoyal would have considered him in the 2nd round, so

far as I’m concerned getting him in 3 is a steal.

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on Jun 5, 2008 7:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well shit lets call GMDM if NYRoyal

considered him in the 2nd thats all we needed to know. Thats like callin the Wolf.

Billy at worst will be Sean Casey jr.

by kcscoliny on Jun 5, 2008 7:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I was being serious.

If he was regarded well enough that he was on ANYONE’S early 2nd round radar, then grabbing him in the 3rd is a win.

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on Jun 5, 2008 7:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

BA had him in the 1s round

Sample began the year behind Kentucky recruit Andy Burns on the Colorado pecking order, and he didn’t figure to move up draft boards after perennial power Cherry Creek High torched him in his second start of the spring. But Sample bounced back from his only poor start to emerge as the state’s best prospect and the latest heir to Colorado’s recent pitching tradition. The state has produced six pitchers who were first-round picks since 1994: Scott Elarton (1994), Roy Halladay (‘95), Brad Lidge (‘98), Kyle Sleeth (2002), David Aardsma (‘03) and Luke Hochevar (‘06). While only Elarton and Halladay came out as high schoolers, Sample looks like he may sign prior to college as well, due to a big, physical body at 6-foot-7 and 240 pounds. Sample’s fastball sits 90-92 mph and touches 94 regularly when he’s fresh, which wasn’t always the case this spring; he sometimes started one day and then relieved three days later for his high school team, a dangerous proposition for a pitcher who already had Tommy John surgery as a prep sophomore. What separates Sample is his knuckle-curveball, an above-average pitch at times. It’s especially impressive considering he’s doing it at altitude. Sample has development to make, such as refining his command and finding a changeup, but his present stuff and body make him a good bet in the sandwich round.

by playingwithfire on Jun 5, 2008 7:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I also

thought Sample would go 2nd round, though I wasn’t sure if the Royals would bite that early.

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Jun 5, 2008 7:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Me too

Looks like a bit of a project, but that’s what you should be looking for in the 3rd round.

Relive Royals History at royalsretro.blogspot.com

by RoyalsRetro on Jun 5, 2008 7:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i like what i'm reading about this guy

let’s hope he can get a third pitch…everything else sounds great

Never giving up on your team is what makes you a good fan.

by kcisbetterthanstlateverything on Jun 5, 2008 7:01 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

KC; Tyler Sample

Looks good to me. Big guy, can throw hard and has a good breaking ball. Concerns include command…but hopefully the Royals can work on that.

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Jun 5, 2008 7:02 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Early John Sickels Draft Reaction

“The Astros….WTF??? “

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Jun 5, 2008 7:07 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Four picks

only one of whom was on the radar enough to have a canned comment ready.

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on Jun 5, 2008 7:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The canned comments are hardly word of law,

but if Sickels thinks a team is doing badly then it’s time to pay attention.

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Jun 5, 2008 7:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

If they don't even have a comment prepped for you

you’re nobody. Really.

This isn’t to say nobody without a comment will be an all-star someday, but it’s a pretty good indicator of whether you’re regarded or not (never mind well-regarded).

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on Jun 5, 2008 7:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't know.

Teams have their own scouting departments and they’ll sometimes choose to go off the beaten path because they they’ve found a player who projects well despite lack of national attention.

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Jun 5, 2008 7:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

LOL

I need to check on how badly they’ve done…

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by NHZ on Jun 5, 2008 7:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

For 4th round

I’d like to see us grab ASU catcher Petey Paramore. Good plate discipline, decent power. May not stay at catcher, but its worth a shot.

Relive Royals History at royalsretro.blogspot.com

by RoyalsRetro on Jun 5, 2008 7:12 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

He's already gone.

OAK at 90.

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on Jun 5, 2008 7:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Who's next on your dance card?

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Jun 5, 2008 7:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Drat

I like Galloway too. He’s still available isn’t he? Surprised he’s slipped.

Relive Royals History at royalsretro.blogspot.com

by RoyalsRetro on Jun 5, 2008 7:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He's still on the board.

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on Jun 5, 2008 7:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Cubs draft Chris Carpenter!

...

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by jonfmorse on Jun 5, 2008 7:15 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Fucking cheaters

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by NHZ on Jun 5, 2008 7:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Isaac Galloway...

C’mon Dayton, draft the man

by adschofield on Jun 5, 2008 7:16 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Yes,

I’ve read up on Galloway and I like him too…we should grab him if we can.

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Jun 5, 2008 7:18 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Sickels

On May 17 had him #29 on his overall rankings, says

“29) Isaac Galloway, OF, California HS: Another guy I like more than other people it seems. Is he getting nitpicked?”

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Jun 5, 2008 7:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I wonder if he'll keep

falling, when’s our next pick (numberwise)?

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Jun 5, 2008 7:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dunno

I’m not following it directly, too loud, too lazy. Where is the draft at?

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Jun 5, 2008 7:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

mlb.com for me

third round, Yanks on the clock for pick 106.

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by NHZ on Jun 5, 2008 7:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

111, I think

We’re on 104 now

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on Jun 5, 2008 7:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sorry, 115

forgot the 4 sandwich picks

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by jonfmorse on Jun 5, 2008 7:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Poor Josh Hamilton

Hope they aren’t on the Rangers

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Jun 5, 2008 7:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Fuckity fuckshit

Ellsbury just rolled his wrist making a diving catch. The Red Sox OF are dropping like flies.

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Jun 5, 2008 7:22 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

At least they still have Coco... Oh yeah

One more reason fighting rulez

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Jun 5, 2008 7:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Totally.

Real men act like 15-year-olds!

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by NHZ on Jun 5, 2008 7:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

DeJesus for Masterson

Done

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Jun 5, 2008 7:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

You forgot again

Dayton can’t trade Jesus

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by jonfmorse on Jun 5, 2008 7:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Maybe I can convert David to Satanism

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Jun 5, 2008 7:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well

He IS from Jersey.

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by jonfmorse on Jun 5, 2008 7:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Then he'd be traded to the Rays

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Jun 5, 2008 7:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hey

Isn’t the guy the Sox just called up for Ortiz blocked long-term by aforementioned papi and Youkilis?

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Jun 5, 2008 7:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes, but I don't think Chris Carter is much of a prospect

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Jun 5, 2008 7:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Eating a grinder

Now THAT is inappropriate. What level of probation can I upgrade you to now?

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Jun 5, 2008 7:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Double-scissor groin grabber

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Jun 5, 2008 7:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Carter

He’s 24 already but he’s hit at AAA this year.

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Jun 5, 2008 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

25

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Jun 5, 2008 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

26 anyone?

Going, going…

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Jun 5, 2008 7:32 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

With each post his projection gets worse

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Jun 5, 2008 7:32 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He'll be 30 soon

I’d trade Berroa for him.

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Jun 5, 2008 7:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He's 26 in September,

how’s that?

I admit to not knowing much about him. Not really on my prospectdar.

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Jun 5, 2008 7:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

If Ellsbury IS

really hurt, you’d have to think the Sox will begin exploring their options. Crisp didn’t look like much of a solution before, and if Ellsbury is out too…hello, DDJ.

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Jun 5, 2008 7:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

We can work something out

We’d even be willing to trade for an injured Ellsbury

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Jun 5, 2008 7:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm not sure I'd want a pussy who can't play with a broken wrist

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Jun 5, 2008 7:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

As opposed to a (bleep)ing baby

who can’t play with hives?

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on Jun 5, 2008 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Right

you’re just trading two guys with the same weakness

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Jun 5, 2008 7:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hives suck

I got hives from eating fruit salad that had banana in it. Apple juice always makes me extremely irritiable. My mom bought, no joke, apple-banana juice the other day. I wonder if she realizes that it’s like storing kryptonite in super man’s fridge.

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Jun 5, 2008 7:32 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Did she scream at you, and call you a baby,

and then say “don’t blame this on your little sister. She works hard (incomprehensible), and you’d better (bleeping) learn to eat (bleep) right way!”

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Jun 5, 2008 7:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

hysterical

i got a kick out of this

Accidentally not thedude925 anymore. I do hate this new name.

by wildthang on Jun 5, 2008 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Angels draft

Zachary Cone.

:x

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on Jun 5, 2008 7:30 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

The guy naming the picks

must think he is running a relay as much back forth as he does.

Billy at worst will be Sean Casey jr.

by kcscoliny on Jun 5, 2008 7:33 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

KC 4th: MELVILLE

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by jonfmorse on Jun 5, 2008 7:33 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Wow

If we spent the 4th round pick on him, we’d better be willing to pay what it will take to get him. Otherwise, it is a moderate waste.

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Jun 5, 2008 7:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Exactly

But if we can sign him without going crazy, it’s a steal.

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on Jun 5, 2008 7:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Now SIGN HIM, dammit!

I couldn’t care less if it takes above slot money.

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Jun 5, 2008 7:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It will take way above slot money

I hope they go for it. He may really prefer to go to college than to be in the Royals organization.

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Jun 5, 2008 7:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dayton's now made to great dips

into the slip pool. I cannot imagine him doing so unless Glass was on board with paying them.

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on Jun 5, 2008 7:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Considering that the Royals were undoubtedly under their alloted MLB payroll budget this year...

...Glass should be willing to spend a little extra on the draft. Hopefully they look at the bookkeeping in the same way.

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Jun 5, 2008 7:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Would you agree, though

that if we sign all four of these guys, the draft’s already an A draft?

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on Jun 5, 2008 7:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

No question in my mind

Perhaps A plus-plus. ;)

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Jun 5, 2008 7:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Would that make it a "Gload-esque" draft?

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Jun 5, 2008 7:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That would be nearly impossible.

And yes, this’ll be an impressive haul if they all get signed.

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Jun 5, 2008 7:42 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

A draft even better than TPJ's defense

If that is even possible

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Jun 5, 2008 7:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

So, how many runs a game will this draft save?

Are the Royals already up 3 on the Sox?

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Jun 5, 2008 7:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

These pitchers + TPJ's defense = no runs allowed, period

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Jun 5, 2008 7:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

No way

this draft can’t save five runs a game.

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on Jun 5, 2008 7:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wow...

I love Dayton…What a great pick…Looks like David is willing to write the checks

by adschofield on Jun 5, 2008 7:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Either that or Dayton is laying the

groundwork to not take blame if Glass doesn’t pay the money.

Billy at worst will be Sean Casey jr.

by kcscoliny on Jun 5, 2008 7:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Melville

local kid.

Billy at worst will be Sean Casey jr.

by kcscoliny on Jun 5, 2008 7:34 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Is this the Melville HS pitcher I think it is?

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Jun 5, 2008 7:35 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Yes, it's Tim.

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on Jun 5, 2008 7:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Or is he the

anti-transcendnetalist genius I think he is?

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Jun 5, 2008 7:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Who knows about Melville?

Mlb.com loved the pick

Billy at worst will be Sean Casey jr.

by kcscoliny on Jun 5, 2008 7:35 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

One of the best HS pitchers in the draft

A first round talent who wants big money or he’ll go to college.

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Jun 5, 2008 7:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

How much does he want?

Billy at worst will be Sean Casey jr.

by kcscoliny on Jun 5, 2008 7:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I really don't know

Nobody does. It’s really hard to say how much it will take.

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Jun 5, 2008 7:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Melville

can get the fastball up in the mid-nineties, more often around 92-93. Has issues with secondary pitches, as he really lacks any consistent slider or curve…his breaking ball that mlb.com saw is a knuckle curve that was coming in around 76, which “had been better in the past.” Big guy, very “projectable” when it comes to velocity and physical growth.

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Jun 5, 2008 7:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sickels on Melville

“Opinion of him dipped a tad after an erratic start but he’s been better lately and still rates as the best overall high school arm available according to virtually all sources. Big guy at 6-5, 200. Works in the low 90s and projects more velocity as he refines his mechanics. Shows a fine knuckle-curve, at times, but it needs more consistency. It would not surprise me to see Martin pass him on draft day.”

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Jun 5, 2008 7:36 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Houston draft history

since we are on the subject of dissing an organization that may draft worse than the Baird Royals

Houston draft history
2007: didn’t sign their first 2 picks(round 3 and 4) and I don’t care enough to look up 5th rounders and below in their 2nd year.

2006
first rounder Max Sapp is repeating low A Sally league and hitting .222 now(.240 something last year)
second rounder Sergio Perez puts up hits per inning, 4.00ERA in very pitcher friendly Carolina league, sample too small this year to judge(25h in 18.1ip, 2.45 ERA)
The rest of the picks got less than 500k in signing bonus and the only recognizeable name to me was Bud Norris, who project as a future reliever.

2005
First round-Brian Bogusevic, repeating Texas league(AA), 4.98 ERA, more walk than K
1s-Eli Iorg-toolsy OF who went on a mormon mission the year before. Hit well last year in A+ Carolina league, struggling this year for AA Corpus Christi

The rest of the draft produces 0 top 100 prospects, and are not really worth mentioning.

by playingwithfire on Jun 5, 2008 7:37 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

GMDM is definitely

trying to load up with young Power Arms. Hopefully these guys just add to the ranks of Duffy, Cortes, Wood, Runion and Rosa

Billy at worst will be Sean Casey jr.

by kcscoliny on Jun 5, 2008 7:41 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Now to cash in some of them

for Albert Pujols.

But seriously, if we can add Burrell or Dunn in the off-season I’d feel pretty damn good about the Royals in 2009.

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Jun 5, 2008 7:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I've adjusted my expectations downwards

No contending for the Royals in 2009. I’d put the chance below 10% right now, even with Dunn or Burrell.

And we do need to start looking at trading pitchers for hitters.

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Jun 5, 2008 7:46 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't know if I'd go all the way to 10%

but consider my statement to mean that the Royals will could move up significantly in 2009 whereas right now we’re not looking as if we’re going to finish at .500.

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Jun 5, 2008 7:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

hate both of them

Burrell is underrated throughout the years, but we need more than a .250 bat with power.

Dunn I don’t like period, worst defensive player since Esteban German

by playingwithfire on Jun 5, 2008 7:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

We need their bats (one of them), without regard to defense

Fuck defense, I want some good hitting.

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Jun 5, 2008 7:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

+117.5

Time for pie… hope to see you on the game thread

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Jun 5, 2008 7:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

"you" is plural

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Jun 5, 2008 7:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

.250 means jack

when you OBP around .400 every year. Burrell’s been a ridiculously consistent player.

Dunn you don’t like period because…his defense? We can get him DH time or move him to first.

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Jun 5, 2008 7:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'd be happy to play him $18M a year to play LF (probably)

Although I do have some concerns about how his decline curve.

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Jun 5, 2008 7:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dunn or Burrell?

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Jun 5, 2008 7:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Willing to do so for either

Worried about Dunn and his “old player skills” profile.

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Jun 5, 2008 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Save it for the thread on Dunn

kidding, but that’ s a concern of mine.

Now Hafner-bolstered

Now I’m going to eat

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Jun 5, 2008 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't have a problem with Dunn or Burrell

But man, if we play both Guillen and one of Dunn/Burrell out there, there can be some really bad games.

by playingwithfire on Jun 5, 2008 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

True

We’d need to freely use defensive substitutes. Maybe we should hang onto Gathright after all.

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Jun 5, 2008 7:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Problem

as you’ve mentioned before, Hillman isn’t able to resist starting him way too much

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Jun 5, 2008 8:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I just hope they can turn it into some good hitters

I don’t know how it works, but I assume GMDM has a reasonable plan for using the “currency” to shore up the positions of need. All 4-5 of them (probably 7-8 with regard to organizational depth)

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Jun 5, 2008 7:46 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

would be much better with Melville though

What doesn't kill us only brings us closer to death

by ksuroyals on Jun 5, 2008 7:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

No doubt. Although all HS pitchers are a crap shoot

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Jun 5, 2008 7:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Best name so far:

LAD drafts SS Dewaris Strange-Gordon

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on Jun 5, 2008 7:46 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

then again

ATL drafts C Braeden Schlehuber

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by jonfmorse on Jun 5, 2008 7:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

-Huber sighting!

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Jun 5, 2008 7:49 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

All Huber-positive posts

MUST be recommended, by order of the Commissariat statheads.

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Jun 5, 2008 7:50 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

"College of Southern Nevada"

Yeah, right, like such a place really exists.

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on Jun 5, 2008 7:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

sweet pick with Melville

now even if we don’t sign him, it’s not that bad of a pick, 4th rounder rarely works out anyway

by playingwithfire on Jun 5, 2008 7:46 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Request for NHZ, NYRoual, or even RR

Post to give hope re: Gordon starting to kick ass.

Lies/ are frowned upon, but not forbidden.

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Jun 5, 2008 7:51 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Starting point:

his OBP is up 40 points.

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Jun 5, 2008 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Also

he showed real GRIT last night diving into the stands.

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on Jun 5, 2008 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

+1

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Jun 5, 2008 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Galloway still on the board...

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by jonfmorse on Jun 5, 2008 7:56 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I don't know much about this guy

But clearly MLB teams don’t love him

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Jun 5, 2008 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

True

I wonder how signability has factored in.

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Jun 5, 2008 8:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wow, Melville

Verrrrrry interesting.

Don’t know what to say about Galloway. Something must be up.

Relive Royals History at royalsretro.blogspot.com

by RoyalsRetro on Jun 5, 2008 7:59 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Red Sox solve CF problem

draft Peter Hissey fit

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on Jun 5, 2008 7:59 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

???

???

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Jun 5, 2008 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Crisp going to be suspended, Ellsbury hurt.

So they drafted a CF!

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on Jun 5, 2008 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

KC R5: John Lamb

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on Jun 5, 2008 8:02 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

HS pitcher, big project

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on Jun 5, 2008 8:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Back from the grocery store.

KC: Alex Llanos, Puerto Rico BB Academy, SS.

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Jun 5, 2008 8:35 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

More work in Latin America

I like it in principle. I don’t know anything about this kid, of course.

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Jun 5, 2008 11:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He's fast

Projectable body…6-foot-3, 170. Quick hands and has contact ability at the plate. Moved to CF a few months ago, no idea if the Royals plan on moving him back to the infield.

Rowdy Hardy Fan Club member.

by doublestix on Jun 6, 2008 12:11 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Are you going to be making a post breaking down the Royals draft pick-by-pick?

Either here or at Royal Tower? Even if you’re doing one at Royal Tower, I’d love for you to put one of those up here. Doing so and mentioning that the original is up on your site (with a link) is a good way to promote Royal Tower.

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Jun 6, 2008 12:28 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

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