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Game 63 Overflow Thread - Royals (24-38) at Yankees (31-31)

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Kansas City Royals at New York Yankees, Jun 8, 2008 1:05 PM EDT


After a long, hot, loss in the Bronx on Saturday, the Royals turn to Zack Greinke (3.56 ERA) to right the ship (gotta love nautical metaphor cliches!) or get the boys back on track (or is it un-tracked? no one seems to know, and, intuitively, I have no sense of whether being on a track is good or bad).

The Yankees turn to... hmm... let me check my game notes here... interesting, this man's name is, let me see if I have this spelled correctly, Joba Chamberlain. As far as I can tell, this young feller has previously been in the bullpen, but was a starter in the minors. Interesting. Never heard word one about him, or this... what are they calling it, "conversion process" that he's been going through.

Well, I suspect there won't be much attention paid to this game, since the Yanks are starting a nobody swingman type.

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one should watch out for

massive flies attack!

should be fun though, two really hard throwing youngesters. with the way the Royals used up their bullpen over the last two game it seems like Zach gotta go 7+ to really stand a chance.

by RollingWave on Jun 8, 2008 9:28 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

hopefully he corected his long ball issue

thaat he dealt with at the cell.

heres lookin at you grienks

by cfizzle on Jun 8, 2008 10:22 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Chamberlain's first start

was terrible. Here’s to a continuation of that trend.

Off to lifeguard. Fething birthday parties.

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Jun 8, 2008 10:55 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I wholly expected

the Boys in Blue to lay down yesterday, figuring that they could take it easy after winning on Friday night. Tho we lost, I was pleasantly surprised at the fight and energy, esp. DeJesus’ home run. Inspired piece of hitting. Now we need Greinke to bounce back and lock up at least a split. I think Hooch will get bombed on Monday, as the Yankees are patient at the plate and he tends to have problems getting the ball over.

One man with courage makes a majority - Andrew Jackson

by Home Run Tony Cogan on Jun 8, 2008 11:18 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Get the hell out of here

Your resignation was accepted. Stay away.

by gordonrules on Jun 8, 2008 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's nice to know that someone noticed

but given the Royals’ performance over the past 15+ years, I’m sure that most fans have had similar feelings. However, after the initial despair wore off and we got further away from the disaster last week, you realize that it’s not going to change overnight.

One man with courage makes a majority - Andrew Jackson

by Home Run Tony Cogan on Jun 8, 2008 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Just for clarification...

On my “resignation” post, wasn’t calling anyone on the site losers, was calling the team losers. I wouldn’t have put anything in there if there wasn’t a 75-word minimum. Anyway, besides the point, did not mean to offend anyone, just 15+ years of frustration building up.

One man with courage makes a majority - Andrew Jackson

by Home Run Tony Cogan on Jun 8, 2008 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Why does it say overflow thread?

Yasuhiko Yabuta is to Major League Baseball as Drew Carey is to The Price is Right

by focs on Jun 8, 2008 12:20 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

In other news.. i think berroa will be getting his first start with the dodgers today

Yasuhiko Yabuta is to Major League Baseball as Drew Carey is to The Price is Right

by focs on Jun 8, 2008 12:21 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

*** BREAKING NEWS ***

Jeff Fulchino (think thats how you spell it) has been called up to the bigs—sent down.. Joel Peralta!!!!!!!!!! YAY!

Yasuhiko Yabuta is to Major League Baseball as Drew Carey is to The Price is Right

by focs on Jun 8, 2008 12:36 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Don't get too excited

Fulchino isn’t exactly tearing up the PCL

Billy at worst will be Sean Casey jr.

by kcscoliny on Jun 8, 2008 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

+1

Actually, he’s terrible.

by Stat Ninja on Jun 8, 2008 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Line-up

1. DDJ LF
2. Gritz 2B
3. Teahen RF
4. Guillen DH
5. Gordon 3B
6. Olivo C
7. Gload 1B
8. Aviles SS
9. Gathright CF

by cfizzle on Jun 8, 2008 12:49 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

This Lineup Would

Look great with Guillen in LF, DDJ in CF and Butler DH’ing. Maybe even Callaspo at 2B; another LH bat.

I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.

by philofthenorth on Jun 8, 2008 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Guillen jacked his leg up yesterday

Yasuhiko Yabuta is to Major League Baseball as Drew Carey is to The Price is Right

by focs on Jun 8, 2008 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I Thought It

Was his foot.

I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.

by philofthenorth on Jun 8, 2008 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Does anyone track the number of different starting lineups used?

I swear we haven’t used the same one twice yet.

by Bart41 on Jun 8, 2008 1:09 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

the stat is kept

we have used a lot of different ones but there have been many times where we used the same one, especially early on in the season.

by I need more Esteban on Jun 8, 2008 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I hope

that Greinke gets those strike calls

One man with courage makes a majority - Andrew Jackson

by Home Run Tony Cogan on Jun 8, 2008 1:11 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

It would really piss me off

if Chamberlain pitched really well against us.

by I need more Esteban on Jun 8, 2008 1:11 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I agree

he worked really hard last time, we need to keep it going.

One man with courage makes a majority - Andrew Jackson

by Home Run Tony Cogan on Jun 8, 2008 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nice bloop hit Grudz

keep getting those to fluster Joba

by I need more Esteban on Jun 8, 2008 1:12 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

need to work the count

only 7 pitches so far

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by Home Run Tony Cogan on Jun 8, 2008 1:13 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

We'll see your Joba

and raise you one Zack

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by Home Run Tony Cogan on Jun 8, 2008 1:18 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Don't know

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by Home Run Tony Cogan on Jun 8, 2008 1:19 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Let's see a DP here

seems like Zack’s trying to overthrow

One man with courage makes a majority - Andrew Jackson

by Home Run Tony Cogan on Jun 8, 2008 1:20 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Wow

So much for that.

One man with courage makes a majority - Andrew Jackson

by Home Run Tony Cogan on Jun 8, 2008 1:21 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Damnit!

What the hell is wrong with Zack!

by I need more Esteban on Jun 8, 2008 1:21 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Well, that sucked now didn't it

"We should've gotten a live chicken"
- Willie Mays Hays

by royaldaddy on Jun 8, 2008 1:21 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Zach seems to

be coming back down to earth

Billy at worst will be Sean Casey jr.

by kcscoliny on Jun 8, 2008 1:22 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Zack has been getting absolutely hammered...

Every fly ball against him = home run

winning records follow good bullpens

by slayor on Jun 8, 2008 1:22 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Anybody else getting reminded of last year a little

with Zack?

"We should've gotten a live chicken"
- Willie Mays Hays

by royaldaddy on Jun 8, 2008 1:23 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

there are some similarities

he looked really bad early on last year. Obviously, that’s why they moved him to the pen. Pleeease no.

by I need more Esteban on Jun 8, 2008 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Could be a

llllllllllong day

Billy at worst will be Sean Casey jr.

by kcscoliny on Jun 8, 2008 1:23 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

let's see

if he can settle it down and hold it to two. He seems to start out slow and warm up as the game goes along.

One man with courage makes a majority - Andrew Jackson

by Home Run Tony Cogan on Jun 8, 2008 1:23 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I think this is the reason why we're hearing

Zack could be on the block and not signing a long term deal. We could turn him into a couple impact bats IMO.

"We should've gotten a live chicken"
- Willie Mays Hays

by royaldaddy on Jun 8, 2008 1:24 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Probably not intentional

But good to see a pitch inside nonetheless

One man with courage makes a majority - Andrew Jackson

by Home Run Tony Cogan on Jun 8, 2008 1:25 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Yikes, from 1-2 to a walk

He has just not looked good at all recently. This is disturbing.

winning records follow good bullpens

by slayor on Jun 8, 2008 1:26 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

He's all over the place right now

"We should've gotten a live chicken"
- Willie Mays Hays

by royaldaddy on Jun 8, 2008 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Anyone Up In

The pen yet?

I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.

by philofthenorth on Jun 8, 2008 1:26 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

haha

after yesterday, Greinke is going at least 5 no matter what.

by I need more Esteban on Jun 8, 2008 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

When He Gets

To 100 pitches (or runs) in the 3rd he’ll switch to his left arm.

I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.

by philofthenorth on Jun 8, 2008 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Might not be a bad idea right now

"We should've gotten a live chicken"
- Willie Mays Hays

by royaldaddy on Jun 8, 2008 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yankees drafted a guy from Creigton that

pitches with both arms

Billy at worst will be Sean Casey jr.

by kcscoliny on Jun 8, 2008 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I read about that guy last year.

He got drafted? Awesome. I could see that becoming fun.

"We should've gotten a live chicken"
- Willie Mays Hays

by royaldaddy on Jun 8, 2008 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

20th round

proud product of Omaha Central High School

Success is counted sweetest by those who ne'er succeed. - Emily Dickinson

by buddyball on Jun 8, 2008 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Gas!!!

"We should've gotten a live chicken"
- Willie Mays Hays

by royaldaddy on Jun 8, 2008 1:29 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

He's had similar problems all year, I think

but the difference is that early in the year he was getting out of the jams.

One man with courage makes a majority - Andrew Jackson

by Home Run Tony Cogan on Jun 8, 2008 1:29 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

He Had A

Couple of games where he was lights out, period.

I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.

by philofthenorth on Jun 8, 2008 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nice catch!

"We should've gotten a live chicken"
- Willie Mays Hays

by royaldaddy on Jun 8, 2008 1:31 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Wow

Gathright made that look easy, nice play.

by I need more Esteban on Jun 8, 2008 1:31 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Keep describing the action

I only have the radio broadcast, because Cox Cable is a bunch of pigf*ckers.

by Porcus on Jun 8, 2008 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

OK

let’s settle down now and hold them to two, and make Joba work

One man with courage makes a majority - Andrew Jackson

by Home Run Tony Cogan on Jun 8, 2008 1:31 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

So, I'll start the debate

Not taking today’s game into consideration, Greinke: Long term deal or traded for bats. Discuss.

"We should've gotten a live chicken"
- Willie Mays Hays

by royaldaddy on Jun 8, 2008 1:32 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Thats a tough one

I think we’ll no more after this month but, deep down I’m hoping for the deal. If he keeps these struggles up, though, then trade him.

by I need more Esteban on Jun 8, 2008 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

If We Can

Get a breeding pair of these, I’m for the trade.

I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.

by philofthenorth on Jun 8, 2008 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That'll give you nightmares

Yikes!

"We should've gotten a live chicken"
- Willie Mays Hays

by royaldaddy on Jun 8, 2008 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

They Would Be

Very intimidating, no?

I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.

by philofthenorth on Jun 8, 2008 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't know if the other team would even show up

"We should've gotten a live chicken"
- Willie Mays Hays

by royaldaddy on Jun 8, 2008 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Walk, K, or HR

we hear this term when talking about hitters like Jim Thome or Adam Dunn.

We need to make a similar title for Greinke, cause he’s either lights out or giving up BOMBS

by GoBabies!! on Jun 8, 2008 1:32 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Long Term Deal

..........after this season (maybe), or next year at A.S. break.

by GoBabies!! on Jun 8, 2008 1:33 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Personally,

he’s my favorite player. The stuff is sick. However, I think it would depend on what we could get for him. It would have to be good. I may continue to go year to year for now, at least let’s see where he ends up at the end of this year. I would love to see him stay.

One man with courage makes a majority - Andrew Jackson

by Home Run Tony Cogan on Jun 8, 2008 1:35 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Damn right Gordo

all he needs to get going is ABs vs. Little League friends.

by I need more Esteban on Jun 8, 2008 1:36 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Best gordon AB in GAMES

winning records follow good bullpens

by slayor on Jun 8, 2008 1:36 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Good AB Gordon

but followed by a bad one by Olivo

One man with courage makes a majority - Andrew Jackson

by Home Run Tony Cogan on Jun 8, 2008 1:37 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

nice Gloadsplosion

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by Home Run Tony Cogan on Jun 8, 2008 1:38 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Gordon Should Run

On this battery.

I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.

by philofthenorth on Jun 8, 2008 1:38 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Time for Aviles to be a hero

winning records follow good bullpens

by slayor on Jun 8, 2008 1:39 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I want to see more doubles Mikey!

"We should've gotten a live chicken"
- Willie Mays Hays

by royaldaddy on Jun 8, 2008 1:39 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Is Joba a seasoned vet?

He sure gets the calls

"We should've gotten a live chicken"
- Willie Mays Hays

by royaldaddy on Jun 8, 2008 1:39 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

he's an

ESPN-hype-machine vet so that helps him.

by I need more Esteban on Jun 8, 2008 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's why I want to cream this kid sooooooo bad

What are they gonna say when the lowly Royals light his ass up?

"We should've gotten a live chicken"
- Willie Mays Hays

by royaldaddy on Jun 8, 2008 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

This matchup isn't in our favor

R-R and now 0-2. Just hope that he can hit weak grounder to 3rd and get a run home

One man with courage makes a majority - Andrew Jackson

by Home Run Tony Cogan on Jun 8, 2008 1:40 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

bullsh!t

he did not swing there

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by Home Run Tony Cogan on Jun 8, 2008 1:41 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

+1

"We should've gotten a live chicken"
- Willie Mays Hays

by royaldaddy on Jun 8, 2008 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes

I was just dreaming of a wildpitch

by I need more Esteban on Jun 8, 2008 1:42 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

touched the glove

"We should've gotten a live chicken"
- Willie Mays Hays

by royaldaddy on Jun 8, 2008 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Passed ball redemption on the BS swing call

winning records follow good bullpens

by slayor on Jun 8, 2008 1:44 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Greinke needs some quick, shutdown innings

winning records follow good bullpens

by slayor on Jun 8, 2008 1:45 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Good Plan!

I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.

by philofthenorth on Jun 8, 2008 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Look at Joey!!!!!!!

"We should've gotten a live chicken"
- Willie Mays Hays

by royaldaddy on Jun 8, 2008 1:47 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

no joke

winning records follow good bullpens

by slayor on Jun 8, 2008 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

If he could only learn to just slap hits

"We should've gotten a live chicken"
- Willie Mays Hays

by royaldaddy on Jun 8, 2008 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

If he could only learn to just slap hits

"We should've gotten a live chicken"
- Willie Mays Hays

by royaldaddy on Jun 8, 2008 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wow, wow, wow

that.just.happened.

One man with courage makes a majority - Andrew Jackson

by Home Run Tony Cogan on Jun 8, 2008 1:48 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Nice play Grudz

The leather is flashy today!

by I need more Esteban on Jun 8, 2008 1:49 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

There we go, 10 pitch inning

winning records follow good bullpens

by slayor on Jun 8, 2008 1:50 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

nice change

the key is can he shut them down for at least the next two. In that, I mean nothing more than a hit or

by I need more Esteban on Jun 8, 2008 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Joba

has proved hittable today, if we can string a few more together and Zack can settle down…

One man with courage makes a majority - Andrew Jackson

by Home Run Tony Cogan on Jun 8, 2008 1:53 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

There we go david, let's tie this thing up

winning records follow good bullpens

by slayor on Jun 8, 2008 1:53 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

2-1 count

hopefully good time to bunt

One man with courage makes a majority - Andrew Jackson

by Home Run Tony Cogan on Jun 8, 2008 1:54 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

eve better

gritty

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by Home Run Tony Cogan on Jun 8, 2008 1:55 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Alrgith teabag just put it in play

winning records follow good bullpens

by slayor on Jun 8, 2008 1:55 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

DDj....

with his seemingly annual 2 week CXck tease of his full potential

by GoBabies!! on Jun 8, 2008 1:56 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

haha yeah

he does kind of do that a lot

by I need more Esteban on Jun 8, 2008 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Crap

just don’t strike out T-bag

by I need more Esteban on Jun 8, 2008 1:57 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Or pop up

winning records follow good bullpens

by slayor on Jun 8, 2008 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

need contact here

show up, teabag

One man with courage makes a majority - Andrew Jackson

by Home Run Tony Cogan on Jun 8, 2008 1:57 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

that's as bad

gotta come thru in the clutch

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by Home Run Tony Cogan on Jun 8, 2008 1:58 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

"A flyball on the infield"

Were you looking for “popup,” Bob?

by Steve Perry on Jun 8, 2008 1:58 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

We need a Han Solo to step up sometime here

We have to rock Joba.

"We should've gotten a live chicken"
- Willie Mays Hays

by royaldaddy on Jun 8, 2008 1:58 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Maybe We Can

Get Princess Leia to distract him.

I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.

by philofthenorth on Jun 8, 2008 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Pena?

"We should've gotten a live chicken"
- Willie Mays Hays

by royaldaddy on Jun 8, 2008 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

come on

gui-bag

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by Home Run Tony Cogan on Jun 8, 2008 1:59 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Nice

"We should've gotten a live chicken"
- Willie Mays Hays

by royaldaddy on Jun 8, 2008 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

never underestimate

the passed ball as an offensive weapon

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by Home Run Tony Cogan on Jun 8, 2008 2:00 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

It's Up There

With the HBP.

I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.

by philofthenorth on Jun 8, 2008 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yes, yes, yes

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by Home Run Tony Cogan on Jun 8, 2008 2:01 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

JOSE

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by GoBabies!! on Jun 8, 2008 2:01 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Just call him Han Solo!!!

"We should've gotten a live chicken"
- Willie Mays Hays

by royaldaddy on Jun 8, 2008 2:02 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

or Han 2-Run

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by marbotty on Jun 8, 2008 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I like that

"We should've gotten a live chicken"
- Willie Mays Hays

by royaldaddy on Jun 8, 2008 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

that was an absolute

BOMB!

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by Home Run Tony Cogan on Jun 8, 2008 2:02 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Ties up Manny Ramirez

for 3rd in the MLB in RBIs…....DAMN RIGHT!

by I need more Esteban on Jun 8, 2008 2:02 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Wilbon Worships Him!

I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.

by philofthenorth on Jun 8, 2008 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Guillen shits on the 3-2 slider

winning records follow good bullpens

by slayor on Jun 8, 2008 2:02 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

He's Fouling Off

Heat so you speed up his bat with a slider; that’s not good plan in Omaha, mush less NYC.

I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.

by philofthenorth on Jun 8, 2008 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Say what you will about Bob Davis

He’s way better at getting excited than any of the other broadcasters.

by Porcus on Jun 8, 2008 2:04 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Bob Davis would get excited about a colonoscopy

"We should've gotten a live chicken"
- Willie Mays Hays

by royaldaddy on Jun 8, 2008 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

who wouldn't?!?

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by marbotty on Jun 8, 2008 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm About To

Find out how exciting it is.

I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.

by philofthenorth on Jun 8, 2008 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i had one

about 6 mos. ago and woke up during. not pleasant. however, thank god they didn’t find anything

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by Home Run Tony Cogan on Jun 8, 2008 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

did they tell you not to eat corn

for a few days beforehand? when the nurse said that, I had to mute the phone b/c I was laughing so hard

One man with courage makes a majority - Andrew Jackson

by Home Run Tony Cogan on Jun 8, 2008 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

that prep is awful

no eating for 24 hours and crapping your brains out – yesh
procedure itself is nothing – make sure someone is there to guide you home

Success is counted sweetest by those who ne'er succeed. - Emily Dickinson

by buddyball on Jun 8, 2008 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

and it iiiiiiiiis IN THERE!

I’ll take a growling Bobgasm call of a home run or strikeout or colonoscopy any day.

by Porcus on Jun 8, 2008 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Think about Bob using that call on your colonoscopy

Gives me the willies.

"We should've gotten a live chicken"
- Willie Mays Hays

by royaldaddy on Jun 8, 2008 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh yeah, he's the king of excitement.

The only bad part is, during KU games, he’ll get really excited on a bad thing for KU. So then when he gets all excited you think it’s good and then you realize he just said, INTERCEPTED!

by I need more Esteban on Jun 8, 2008 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Mid 50s pitch count

for Joba. He’ll be gone in two at most.

by I need more Esteban on Jun 8, 2008 2:04 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I wish I could find the picture that's floating around somewhere

with Jeter and A-Rod in bikinis holding each other. It’s perfect.

"We should've gotten a live chicken"
- Willie Mays Hays

by royaldaddy on Jun 8, 2008 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

haha i saw one

that was taken right when one of them was slapping the other ones ass. And it looks just like he’s cupping his ass, it’s good stuff.

by I need more Esteban on Jun 8, 2008 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Like This One?

I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.

by philofthenorth on Jun 8, 2008 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Or This One?

I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.

by philofthenorth on Jun 8, 2008 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

nice

"We should've gotten a live chicken"
- Willie Mays Hays

by royaldaddy on Jun 8, 2008 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

LMFAO!!!!!

I love it!!!!!!!!!!!

"We should've gotten a live chicken"
- Willie Mays Hays

by royaldaddy on Jun 8, 2008 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wow

Zack just saved his head with some nice glove-work

by I need more Esteban on Jun 8, 2008 2:10 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

One word (or is it two?)

Directv

"We should've gotten a live chicken"
- Willie Mays Hays

by royaldaddy on Jun 8, 2008 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

dude, that sucks

"We should've gotten a live chicken"
- Willie Mays Hays

by royaldaddy on Jun 8, 2008 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I Get Blacked

Out on MLBTV occasionally; no one can explain why.

I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.

by philofthenorth on Jun 8, 2008 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Became A Homeless

Person with a satellite dish.

I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.

by philofthenorth on Jun 8, 2008 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The Mrs. may not go for that

I’ll run it by her just in case

by Steve Perry on Jun 8, 2008 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Women Can Surprise

You sometimes.

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by philofthenorth on Jun 8, 2008 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

it'd be nice

to have seen any of this

but good thing we get the Golf Channel in Hi Fucking Def

by Porcus on Jun 8, 2008 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He has at least once on gameday

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by slayor on Jun 8, 2008 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

How Can You

Tell he crapped himself on Gameday?

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by philofthenorth on Jun 8, 2008 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

hafhahahahha

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by slayor on Jun 8, 2008 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

We Have To

Make at least 27 of them to win the game; he’s just doing his part.

I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.

by philofthenorth on Jun 8, 2008 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

team player

Success is counted sweetest by those who ne'er succeed. - Emily Dickinson

by buddyball on Jun 8, 2008 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

If Only We

Had 24 more like him.

I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.

by philofthenorth on Jun 8, 2008 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i really hate the all-day-games-on-sunday thing

although it wont be as bad tonight with the nba finals

by royalsreview on Jun 8, 2008 2:24 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

why did they not

play the finals yesterday? how many days in between do they need? prime time saturday night would seem to be perfect

One man with courage makes a majority - Andrew Jackson

by Home Run Tony Cogan on Jun 8, 2008 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Seriously

I was looking forward to watching it on a Saturday night, but no, make me watch it the night before I have to go back to work.

by I need more Esteban on Jun 8, 2008 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Mrs. Cogan

says that Aviles looks exactly like Costa

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by Home Run Tony Cogan on Jun 8, 2008 2:28 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

interesting...

we need to get yesterday’s discussion rolling again

by royalsreview on Jun 8, 2008 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yes

I said that yesterday and was met with some optimism from an Omahanite (?) Omahainian?

by I need more Esteban on Jun 8, 2008 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Zack-68 Joba-66

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by philofthenorth on Jun 8, 2008 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The Shockers Are

Rallying in the 3rd, now down 2, 4-6.

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by philofthenorth on Jun 8, 2008 2:29 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

craptimism?

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by Home Run Tony Cogan on Jun 8, 2008 2:32 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Great AB by david he's having a good season

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by slayor on Jun 8, 2008 2:36 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I don't expect him to be in a Royals uniform much longer though

"We should've gotten a live chicken"
- Willie Mays Hays

by royaldaddy on Jun 8, 2008 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

why?

are there any rumors out there? I think unless we get a boatload in return that’s not wise

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by Home Run Tony Cogan on Jun 8, 2008 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, there have been rumors for about 7-8 months now

He and Teahen are very similar, but Teahen has more power and a much better outfield arm.

"We should've gotten a live chicken"
- Willie Mays Hays

by royaldaddy on Jun 8, 2008 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh yeah

Even if he’s not a 20 homer a year guy, he still has more power IMO.

"We should've gotten a live chicken"
- Willie Mays Hays

by royaldaddy on Jun 8, 2008 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

And Teahen doesn't play a

premium defensive position. That’s kind of a key thing to leave out.

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Jun 8, 2008 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

cue the John Williams theme music

"We should've gotten a live chicken"
- Willie Mays Hays

by royaldaddy on Jun 8, 2008 2:37 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

IDK

until the past couple of weeks, Teahen has been dreadful. I agree that they are similar players and we probably don’t need both (awesome AB by Teahen so far, btw) but I think DDJ is more consistent

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by Home Run Tony Cogan on Jun 8, 2008 2:44 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

He's always hurt

and it’s always some rinky-dink little thing. Plus, he doesn’t have the best focus in the world. It causes him to underachieve.

"We should've gotten a live chicken"
- Willie Mays Hays

by royaldaddy on Jun 8, 2008 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Tough luck for Mark

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by slayor on Jun 8, 2008 2:45 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

we have an elarton sighting in detroit

by royalsreview on Jun 8, 2008 2:46 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

For once

I feel sorry for Indians fans

"We should've gotten a live chicken"
- Willie Mays Hays

by royaldaddy on Jun 8, 2008 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i really hate elarton (as a player, know nothing about the guy)

he sucks
he’s a slow worked
he’s always bitchy
hate his windup, with the weird little hand thing he does

by royalsreview on Jun 8, 2008 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That weird hand thing is sooooooo annoying

"We should've gotten a live chicken"
- Willie Mays Hays

by royaldaddy on Jun 8, 2008 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

but he gives a full effort every time

Success is counted sweetest by those who ne'er succeed. - Emily Dickinson

by buddyball on Jun 8, 2008 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

question

did jim mckay die yesterday?

i did not see any mention of this on ESPN/ESPN News/ESPN Classic or on ESPN radio

also, was he in any way involved with the coverage of the Munich Olympics?

by royalsreview on Jun 8, 2008 2:48 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Good call

Look up overkill in the dictionary and you’ll find yesterday’s coverage

"We should've gotten a live chicken"
- Willie Mays Hays

by royaldaddy on Jun 8, 2008 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I love how they had pre-prepared footage of Al Michaels talking about him in the past tense

that just happened to be ready 4 hours after he died…

it may have been at least 5 years old

by royalsreview on Jun 8, 2008 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

They're probably interviewing John Madden right now

to talk about Pat Summerall

"We should've gotten a live chicken"
- Willie Mays Hays

by royaldaddy on Jun 8, 2008 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

F U JOHNNY DAMON

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by slayor on Jun 8, 2008 2:50 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

and then some

F’ing Judas

"We should've gotten a live chicken"
- Willie Mays Hays

by royaldaddy on Jun 8, 2008 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

lol 68mph curveball to k jeter

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by slayor on Jun 8, 2008 2:53 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

For nothing

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by slayor on Jun 8, 2008 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

2nd 4 pitch walk to arod, i dont get it

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by slayor on Jun 8, 2008 2:55 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Another highlight for Joey.

Hope he’s not hurt.

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on Jun 8, 2008 2:56 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Joey G!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Oh my goodness. Please Joey, you must show some mercy, son. Stop killing them!

"We should've gotten a live chicken"
- Willie Mays Hays

by royaldaddy on Jun 8, 2008 2:56 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

that pitcher

is a baby for nearly hitting guillen in the face

Never giving up on your team is what makes you a good fan.

by kcisbetterthanstlateverything on Jun 8, 2008 3:00 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Friggin' fetus, man

"We should've gotten a live chicken"
- Willie Mays Hays

by royaldaddy on Jun 8, 2008 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

So who do we even have available in the pen tonight?

Guessing we try to grit Greinke through 6, but then…

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by slayor on Jun 8, 2008 3:01 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Stan Belinda?

"We should've gotten a live chicken"
- Willie Mays Hays

by royaldaddy on Jun 8, 2008 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Fullchino

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on Jun 8, 2008 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

that new guy

Never giving up on your team is what makes you a good fan.

by kcisbetterthanstlateverything on Jun 8, 2008 3:02 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Did he make it in already?

"We should've gotten a live chicken"
- Willie Mays Hays

by royaldaddy on Jun 8, 2008 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

AWESOME.

A two-base K

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on Jun 8, 2008 3:04 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Olivo is just so productive

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by slayor on Jun 8, 2008 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wow

Olivo plays the game harder than anyone I’ve seen. I love it!

by I need more Esteban on Jun 8, 2008 3:04 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

10/100

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on Jun 8, 2008 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

TELL ME

Did he kick up the spikes?

oh nm, headfirst slide

by Porcus on Jun 8, 2008 3:04 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

i'm turning into a big olivo fan

he throws out baserunners and everything, unlike that other catcher…

Never giving up on your team is what makes you a good fan.

by kcisbetterthanstlateverything on Jun 8, 2008 3:05 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

and, like,

hits the ball

by Porcus on Jun 8, 2008 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He does, does he?

He seems to be in full regression mode to me.

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Jun 8, 2008 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

imagine that

"We should've gotten a live chicken"
- Willie Mays Hays

by royaldaddy on Jun 8, 2008 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I almost wish you hadn't had to ban Joel's ass now

What could he say to defend his boy this year?

"We should've gotten a live chicken"
- Willie Mays Hays

by royaldaddy on Jun 8, 2008 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

god gload sucks

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by slayor on Jun 8, 2008 3:06 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I think the hitters should be able to play defense on those foul popups

they always just stand there and look helpless. it would add a fun dimension to the game.

by Bart41 on Jun 8, 2008 3:06 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

they should hustle it out

a series of tips, high winds, maybe a bird or two, might knock it fair

by Porcus on Jun 8, 2008 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

jose offerman

proved hitters w/ sticks outside the batter’s box are dangerous…

Never giving up on your team is what makes you a good fan.

by kcisbetterthanstlateverything on Jun 8, 2008 3:07 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Juan Marichal

proved they’re dangerous IN the batter’s box

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on Jun 8, 2008 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

64 mph curveball spotted to giambi

Zack hasn’t thrown that one in 2 years

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by slayor on Jun 8, 2008 3:09 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

63mph

is the playful add/subtract zack back?

Never giving up on your team is what makes you a good fan.

by kcisbetterthanstlateverything on Jun 8, 2008 3:10 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

sigh

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on Jun 8, 2008 3:10 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

FUCK

That one is back oer the fence

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by slayor on Jun 8, 2008 3:10 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Shit Shit Shit!!!!!!!!!!!

"We should've gotten a live chicken"
- Willie Mays Hays

by royaldaddy on Jun 8, 2008 3:10 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Wasn't even a bad pitch, ugh

Everything goes outu

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by slayor on Jun 8, 2008 3:11 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

well...

he should quit playing w/ that pitch over the heart of the plate…

Never giving up on your team is what makes you a good fan.

by kcisbetterthanstlateverything on Jun 8, 2008 3:11 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I dont even know what to think of this start

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by slayor on Jun 8, 2008 3:12 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Somewhere at a car wash, Jeremy Giambi

is pumping his fist while some guy is screaming at him to finish wiping his windshield.

"We should've gotten a live chicken"
- Willie Mays Hays

by royaldaddy on Jun 8, 2008 3:12 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

replay of homer

that replay is a perfect example of how to hit a curveball and keep weight back. what a swing.

Never giving up on your team is what makes you a good fan.

by kcisbetterthanstlateverything on Jun 8, 2008 3:13 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Most disturbing part of Zack's line... 4 walks in 5 IP

Yeah 2 were 4 pitch walks to Arod, but he’s supposed to be a control pitcher.

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by slayor on Jun 8, 2008 3:14 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

guess

it rhymes with “another fucking home run”

by Porcus on Jun 8, 2008 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

mothers trucking chrome guns?

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on Jun 8, 2008 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Two run jack by Giambi

"We should've gotten a live chicken"
- Willie Mays Hays

by royaldaddy on Jun 8, 2008 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

why were you gone?

Did you turn your radio off to avoid the Tompkins commercials?

by Porcus on Jun 8, 2008 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Those really need to stop. Seriously.

I’ll listen 1,000 Farmers Help Point commercials before I listen to one of those

by Steve Perry on Jun 8, 2008 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

*snort*

http://tompkinsind.com/ at least their website got an upgrade. Last time I looked (when it was still stockmeup.com) it looked like one of those late-90s Geocities websites.

by Porcus on Jun 8, 2008 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Unintentional humor

Michael Kay will be interviewing Snoop Dogg; among the topics, his “unlikely” friendship with Willie Nelson.

What’s unlikely about a couple of famous potheads being friends?

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on Jun 8, 2008 3:17 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Fo shizzle

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Jun 8, 2008 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Really, that's not all that unlikely

Willie can get that good Texas fire. It’s like an old white dude can’t have a friendship with a black man or something. Snoop seems like the kind of guy I could easily get along with and I’m a huge redneck.

"We should've gotten a live chicken"
- Willie Mays Hays

by royaldaddy on Jun 8, 2008 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Greinke is struggling, Meche is struggling, Bannister is struggling, Hochevar is struggling

Kyle Davies is our only SP that isn’t. That’s just bizarre.

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by slayor on Jun 8, 2008 3:18 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Repent.

The end is at hand.

by Steve Perry on Jun 8, 2008 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Regression

I’m afraid Zack was due for a few bad starts.

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Jun 8, 2008 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Odd stats to terrify you

According to Lee Sinins’ RCAA and RSAA, the Royal offense is actually in the middle of the pack and comfortably so, but the pitching staff is 13th in the league.

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on Jun 8, 2008 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Odd stats

that make very little sense?

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Jun 8, 2008 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's funny

the thought process and methodology behind RCAA/RSAA makes sense, and individually the data always seems to make sense, but the team totals always look out of whack.

I think it’s because one truly horrible player on an average team makes the team look truly horrible.

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on Jun 8, 2008 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed.

Look at our slash numbers…RCAA/RSAA really isn’t telling the whole story.

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Jun 8, 2008 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Davies

...is struggling to keep his walks down and his Ks up. So far, it hasn’t hurt him, but it will if he doesn’t reverse that trend.

by Stat Ninja on Jun 8, 2008 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Shh, let's enjoy the flukeyness while we can

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by slayor on Jun 8, 2008 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

So I met a Cards fan last night who admitted

it was their stupid team who pissed away Game 6 in ‘85, not one blown call.

Which brings the grand total of rational, cordial Cards fans I’ve met to 1. But they’re soooooo smart.

by Steve Perry on Jun 8, 2008 3:20 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I've known a Cards fan for a few years

who also feels that way.

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on Jun 8, 2008 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

shoot...

will the royals ever make the playoffs again?

by blue bandwagon on Jun 8, 2008 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I hope so

I trust that the scouting dept drafted the best players they could find regardless of HS or college. Still, I wonder if the Royals would have a shot had they taken Matt Weiters last year and another college hitter this year. The college guys would reach the majors in about 3 years instead of 4-5. By the time Moustakas and H arrive in KC, Greinke, Gordon, Soria, Hochevar, and Davies, and Buck (and a few others) will probably be gone.

The FO must make FA moves to build a winner around what they have now, next year, and each year after that until there are no prospects turning out and meriting FA’s.

by Stat Ninja on Jun 8, 2008 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Maybe he's a better hitter than TPJ,

but that’s not exactly hard. You really think he’s capable based on 3-for-13 with a walk?

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Jun 8, 2008 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He's actually been driving the ball in some of his AB's for outs, which is shocking

Seeing anybody in this lineup drive the ball not named Guillen / Gordon / Dejesus is tantalizing.

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by slayor on Jun 8, 2008 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

No doubt

I’m glad he’s hitting the ball hard, too, I’m just not convinced this makes him capable to the point of deserving a starting job.

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Jun 8, 2008 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Why not?

His minor league stats were good, and his MLB small sample size has only continued to suggest that he deserves to play. Plus, the Royals aren’t exactly in a pennant race. The point is to get a look at deserving players and see who can possibly help in the future. The Royals have nothing to lose by giving Aviles the PT now and a lot to lose if they reach the season’s end with the same stiffs they were dumb enough to start anyway (TPJ at SS, Gload at 1B).

by Stat Ninja on Jun 8, 2008 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

No,

his mlb small sample size has proved that he’s 3-for-13 with a walk. If I was to jump to conclusions based on that…well, he’s only hitting .231, he must be terrible, right?

You realize that I am not arguing in favor of Pena? I’m more in favor of Callaspo getting the PT and Aviles subbing in the middle infield, getting more PT when Grudz is (likely) traded.

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Jun 8, 2008 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Callaspo

I’ve been a big Callaspo since his A+ days. LOVED it when I’d read that he was putting on a Royals uni.

I don’t think Alberto’s PT in 2009+ is at all in danger by anything Aviles does. I think GMDM is trying to figure out whether Aviles or Callaspo could reasonably hold down the everyday SS job in 2009, and the other should probably start at 2B. I don’t remember which FA 2B are available this offseason, but I’d rather see the Royals develop their own for once and put the money toward a position with greater impact.

I also think that playing Aviles could generate some trade interest.

by Stat Ninja on Jun 8, 2008 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

In who?
I don’t think Alberto’s PT in 2009+ is at all in danger by anything Aviles does. I think GMDM is trying to figure out whether Aviles or Callaspo could reasonably hold down the everyday SS job in 2009, and the other should probably start at 2B.

Maybe you’re right, but it’s awfully hard to evaluate Callaspo as a player without giving him enough playing time to prove himself this year. and right now he’s losing PT to Aviles, who has never been the prospect Callaspo has. I agree that it’s a good idea to build from within.

And I highly doubt we can get much for Aviles…Grudz probably, Pena maybe.

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Jun 8, 2008 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sorry.

The “In who?” was in re: to the trade interest.

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Jun 8, 2008 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Aviles

If he plays and does well for a time in the bigs, then teams will research him, learn that he’s been a minor league all-star more than once, etc., and possibly have some interest.

I share your concern that Callaspo is not getting as much PT as he could and deserves to have, but my fingers are crossed that management has already decided he’s the future at SS or 2B next year.

by Stat Ninja on Jun 8, 2008 7:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

For this team?

Yes

"We should've gotten a live chicken"
- Willie Mays Hays

by royaldaddy on Jun 8, 2008 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

What does that mean?

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Jun 8, 2008 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

he's more than capable

"We should've gotten a live chicken"
- Willie Mays Hays

by royaldaddy on Jun 8, 2008 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

More than capable...

I don’t mean to be snarky, but if this season is about finding out whether guys can be part of the solution in KC, saying Aviles is “capable” based on 14 PAs isn’t very convincing.

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Jun 8, 2008 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's Aviles vs. TPJ vs. German

They want Callaspo to play second eventually. Between those three guys, pick the one you want. It’s not really even an option.

"We should've gotten a live chicken"
- Willie Mays Hays

by royaldaddy on Jun 8, 2008 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes it is!

Pena stinks, I don’t want him starting. I’d prefer to see Callaspo getting more PT at short and Grudz upping his trade value.

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Jun 8, 2008 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I dunno.

I was opposed, but as I think on it…

1) German’s upside is now Jose Offerman. And I mean the Offerman that ended up as a 1B. He cannot play short for this team.
2) Callaspo has callasped. I still feel he should get the PT, but I can sense Trey is sour on him, so…
3) Pena is Pena.
4) Moustakas is 2010.

If there is ever a time to give Aviles the opportunity, now is it; as such, I’m okay with him getting it.

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on Jun 8, 2008 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Callaspo

and his .350 OBP have collapsed? News to me. Otherwise, I agree! I seriously think some people still think I want TPJ in at short. I DON’T.

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Jun 8, 2008 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He's getting on

but he’s not hitting a lick lately.

Don’t get me wrong; he’s our 2B going forward, and needs PT in the interim. But if Grudz broke his leg tomorrow, we wouldn’t even be having this discussion; you know you’d want AC at 2B and Aviles at SS.

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on Jun 8, 2008 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Whether Grudz gets hurt

is neither here nor there. What you’re saying about him needing PT right now is basically what I mean…Aviles shouldn’t get Pt at the expense of Callaspo.

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Jun 8, 2008 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well, there was a subtle point there

which even I didn’t realize until after I made the comment.

From a development standpoint, Aviles isn’t the problem, Grudz is. If the argument is “we need to see what we’ve got”, then Mark needs to give way. If the counter to that is “we have to play Mark”, then right now the Aviles/Callaspo question is sort of a wash; one has OBP, the other has a bat.

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on Jun 8, 2008 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh, so now

there’s a difference between having a good OBP and having a bat? Weird. Let me know how that happened.

Grudzielanek is going to keep being played, because he’s playing well and the Royals will want to deal him for something shiny at the deadline. Until then, the easiest way to get Callaspo playing time is play him at SS-since he’s a real prospect-and Grudz at 2B into July. Then…really, who cares who plays short, he won’t be the SS when the Royals are competing.

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Jun 8, 2008 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes, there's a difference between having a good OBP and having a bat.

I shouldn’t even have to explain something so self-evident, not to you. You can take walks and not hit a lick, you know. And you can be a good hitter without racking up walks.

Jeez, I think I’ve made the comment “Teahen is the best batter on the team” while distinguishing “batter” from “hitter” enough that you’d see where I’m coming from there.

To go at this another way: logically, you must also think that Olivo is being grossly over-exposed (albeit with the recognition that even an over-exposed Olivo is preferable to Gload). Butler is in Omaha because Olivo was on a tear and could not be dislodged from the lineup; while Aviles is only hitting .231 or whatever, he IS hitting the ball very well, and I can accept as reasonable a decision to not bench him until he really starts to falter.

I guess what it comes down to is that you CAN put these nine guys in the lineup at the same time without playing any of them in an unfamiliar position: Buck, Teahen, Grudz, Callaspo, Gordon, Olivo, Guillen, DeJesus, Aviles. And that’s currently our best possible offensive lineup.

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on Jun 8, 2008 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Addendum

And the reason it’s a wash is because once you say “we have to play Mark”, the argument re: Callaspo needing PT becomes contradictory.

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on Jun 8, 2008 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

See above.

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Jun 8, 2008 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

You can’t tell either way. The strikeouts he’s looked bad, the doubles he;s looked pretty good. He has a nice swing and give the kid a month. He’s the second best defending shortstop on the team and as a rookie, on the royals, hitting 8th or 9th I’ll take 250/320/400 minimum. Who’s better there right now?

by Royal2103 on Jun 8, 2008 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

hey he had a walk

I think that puts him ahead of TPJ for the year

Success is counted sweetest by those who ne'er succeed. - Emily Dickinson

by buddyball on Jun 8, 2008 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

No.. it doesn't.

It was an IBB, and Pena’s got two of those already. :p

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on Jun 8, 2008 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes,

okay. But you realize saying he’s the second best defender at short is both lacking in evidence and damning with faint praise if it’s true, right?

Who’s better? As I’ve stated before, I was hoping the Royals would give the regular line-up spot to Callaspo since I think they’re grooming him to start at second everyday next year. I like Callaspo more than Aviles based on what I’ve seen and the numbers.

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Jun 8, 2008 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Callaspo is a much better second baseman than short. He looks completely lost at short! every time! And sure he handles the bat ok but 3 extra base hits out of almost 30? Avlies already has that… True false sample size… But yes Pena is a much better defensive shortstop than his stats suggest (that he’s a decent at best one). But everyone was harping on Aviles defense coming up. Not too shabby if you ask me

by Royal2103 on Jun 8, 2008 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Everything I've seen on Aviles

pegs him as below average at short. I’m not suggesting Callaspo is a great or even a good SS, but I think he’s going to benefit more from the PT.

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Jun 8, 2008 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Kansas City Royals scouts opinion… never led us wrong before…

by Royal2103 on Jun 8, 2008 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

There's a strong argument.

Except I didn’t say that I was basing my opinion only on KC scouts, did I?

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Jun 8, 2008 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Who else has talked about him? Some guy for Baseball America who writes on 2000 kids a year? Which, yes, does tell you he’s not an elite prospect but neither was dan Uggla, or Eckstein, or Tejada, or…

by Royal2103 on Jun 8, 2008 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Tejada wasn't a good prospect?

I beg to differ. Eckstein wasn’t an elite prospect…who turned into a player who has never been elite. Uggla flew under the radar with scouts, yes, but he always put up good numbers. Someone should have seen him coming.

The statisitics that Aviles has put up in the minors have never suggested he’s going to be much of a player. I’ve taken that into account too.

Also, if you’re saying scouts are always wrong…that’s not much of an argument.

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Jun 8, 2008 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Never said scouts are always wrong. Where did that come from? I said Royals scouts are often misleading. And Tejada was called a kid with a glove that couldn’t hit for enough power or keep his strikeouts down… Never was supposed to be an MVP candidate. And Uggla did not not have great numbers. Good September callup numbers. Aviles has had very comparable. And Eckstein does not have the advantage of the GRIT factor… very true. But I’d take him on my team any day. Aviles stats have said that give him some glove work and he will be a decent player. I’ve mentioned three players that flew under that played short(Uggla now at 2nd) and I could go on and on. Scouts are great but you can only really tell with stats and playing time.

by Royal2103 on Jun 8, 2008 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Response
Never said scouts are always wrong. Where did that come from? I said Royals scouts are often misleading.

Well, I was trying to make sense of that. I said that scouts had never really liked Aviles much, and you say that the scouts are often misleading. Still, saying that doesn’t prove anything specific in regard to one player (Aviles in this case).

And Tejada was called a kid with a glove that couldn’t hit for enough power or keep his strikeouts down… Never was supposed to be an MVP candidate.

By some, maybe, but Tejada was well thought of by others. Also, his stats show that he hit for a good amount of power at a young age, then was rushed to the majors and ended up developing there rather than in the high minors. Tejada was also 21 when broke in. That’s very young for a rookie.

And Uggla did not not have great numbers. Good September callup numbers. Aviles has had very comparable.

Uggla had 20 home runs and slugged over .500 in his last year in the minors. Those are good numbers, and I never said they were “great.” Aviles’s stats are only comparable if you throw out OBP.

I’ve mentioned three players that flew under that played short(Uggla now at 2nd) and I could go on and on. Scouts are great but you can only really tell with stats and playing time.

Dude, I’m a stathead. I follow the statisical analysis closer than I do the scouty part of baseball analysis. I KNOW that you can really only tell with the statistics, and I’m saying that based on them I don’t see Aviles as much of a player. Scouts have their place, I recognize that, of course, and they don’t have much to say in his favor either. Neither does a .330 OBP in a hitter’s AAA league, which was what Aviles did in a full season last year.

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Jun 8, 2008 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I said Royals scouts not scouts in general…

Uggla did have a great final minor year. In AA. in a bad league. As the only hitter on his team. We can look back now and say yes, scouts were wrong about this kid. His drive was better than his projections. And a team with pretty solid scouting department thought he wasn’t worth it.

Believe me I love my stats too. And a little different than some on this site I have played college baseball and 7 minor league games. Wasn’t very physically gifted so that was for naught but I know a kid that can play when I see him…

by Royal2103 on Jun 8, 2008 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I know,

you were saying that scouts in general had missed on Tejada, Uggla, and Eckstein. I responded in similar terms.

Good for you on the college and minor league thing. It sounds like you really liked playing baseball. If, however, that’s an attempt to show you have more knowledge on the subject than everyone else, I’m not impressed.

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Jun 9, 2008 6:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

death valley

gobbled up another drive

Never giving up on your team is what makes you a good fan.

by kcisbetterthanstlateverything on Jun 8, 2008 3:25 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

DDJ really going all-out

to get us some talent in return for him

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on Jun 8, 2008 3:28 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Sigh

I’ll miss you, David.

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Jun 8, 2008 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

don't push it

"We should've gotten a live chicken"
- Willie Mays Hays

by royaldaddy on Jun 8, 2008 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hell yes

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Jun 8, 2008 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

This fucking junk baller is setting us down

he throws meat balls up there and we keep missing them

Yasuhiko Yabuta is to Major League Baseball as Drew Carey is to The Price is Right

by focs on Jun 8, 2008 3:29 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

*shutting* us down

Yasuhiko Yabuta is to Major League Baseball as Drew Carey is to The Price is Right

by focs on Jun 8, 2008 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

THEY keep missing them

WE….keep typing and discussing what they’re doing.

by I need more Esteban on Jun 8, 2008 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

My sincere apologies how could i be so F'ing stupid

Yasuhiko Yabuta is to Major League Baseball as Drew Carey is to The Price is Right

by focs on Jun 8, 2008 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

we like it 96-99

w/ spotty control

Never giving up on your team is what makes you a good fan.

by kcisbetterthanstlateverything on Jun 8, 2008 3:30 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Depressing highlights, no matter your team:

Any time they show a home run in Florida. The sight of the ball rattling around the empty seats is just sad.

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on Jun 8, 2008 3:33 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

It makes me want

to go to Florida and get some baseballs.

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Jun 8, 2008 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nice david… what you should have done last time…

by Royal2103 on Jun 8, 2008 3:33 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

crap, crap, crap

Success is counted sweetest by those who ne'er succeed. - Emily Dickinson

by buddyball on Jun 8, 2008 3:42 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Seriously,

who the heck is Dan Giese?

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Jun 8, 2008 3:42 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

another pitcher looking like Cy Young

when they pitch against us

Success is counted sweetest by those who ne'er succeed. - Emily Dickinson

by buddyball on Jun 8, 2008 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

If we were Yankee fans instead

we’d be all over A-Rod right now for costing us a run!

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on Jun 8, 2008 3:42 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Mahay

must already be on the Yankees’ payroll.

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Jun 8, 2008 3:43 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

if we were Derek Jeter

we would be all over A-Rod

Success is counted sweetest by those who ne'er succeed. - Emily Dickinson

by buddyball on Jun 8, 2008 3:43 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

in the shower

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on Jun 8, 2008 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Will

are you guys registered at http://shop.mlb.com/shop/index.jsp?categoryId=1452354?

Success is counted sweetest by those who ne'er succeed. - Emily Dickinson

by buddyball on Jun 8, 2008 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

This is a bummer

I really thought we could get 2 out of 3 this weekend.

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Jun 8, 2008 4:02 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

They're playing a fourth tomorrow

"We should've gotten a live chicken"
- Willie Mays Hays

by royaldaddy on Jun 8, 2008 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

we get it, Tompkins

women can’t understand sports. Funny commercial. Real original. Keep ‘em coming.

by Porcus on Jun 8, 2008 4:11 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

It's probably still not as bad

as, say, those Keystone commercials where the guys are all a bunch of infantile dorks unable to be honest with their women. Or the “ready to vent” Coors Light commercial, where dude feeds his girlfriend a line of shit in order to go drink with his buddies.

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on Jun 8, 2008 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

how about the

Viagra commercials where the guys are all sitting around singing about getting a boner? That isn’t creepy at all…

One man with courage makes a majority - Andrew Jackson

by Home Run Tony Cogan on Jun 8, 2008 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Aw, come on

You’ve never sat around with your buddies talking about your tools? What kinda weirdo ARE you?

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on Jun 8, 2008 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nothing warms the cockles of my heart

like seeing Ross Gload trying to hit Mariano Rivera in the top of the 9th.

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on Jun 8, 2008 4:14 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

We're not Seattle.

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on Jun 8, 2008 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Didn't know where else to post this

cause it’s not worthy of a fanpost or shot really, but Angel Berroa is in the starting lineup for the Dodgers game tonight. It’s on ESPN so if you can rip away from Game 2 of the finals to see his ABs, then do it, I’ll be very interested to see how he does.

by I need more Esteban on Jun 8, 2008 7:13 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I was coming to say this

I was upset he didn’t start yesterday, but this will be interesting.

by mazoboom on Jun 8, 2008 8:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Soft groundout in 1st at-bat

At least he made contact! Baby steps, baby steps.

by andrewmiller on Jun 8, 2008 9:05 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Well, strikeout in the second at bat

Um, at least he foul-tipped the third strike into the catcher’s glove?

by andrewmiller on Jun 8, 2008 9:41 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

And then another strikeout in his third at bat

Man, he looks like an old guy now compared to how he used to look. And that bat speed was just awful. It looked like he was in slow motion. 0-3 with 2 k’s. That’s very Angel. I just turned over for this at bat. I wonder how abysmal his play in the field was. I have a feeling he didn’t get to too many balls.

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Jun 8, 2008 10:39 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Looked decent in the field from what I saw

Turned a double play, made a strong throw from deep in the hole. But I’m sure time will reveal the fielding flaws. Bat speed is indeed dreadful—I was rooting for him to draw a rare walk on the 3-2 count that became his final K.

by andrewmiller on Jun 8, 2008 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He'll handle most of the balls that come right to him

...but he doesn’t have much range left. And I can’t wait for the throwing errors which will inevitably come. I can’t believe that I read on this site within the last week that Berroa is good enough to be a roughly average MLB catcher. Yet another piece of evidence that most fans have a memory which lasts about 2 weeks. Either that or someone’s living 2003 and doesn’t recognize the effects of the unidirectional nature of the time continuum.

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Jun 8, 2008 10:53 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

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