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Bitterness

Tigers 33, Royals 6.

But hey, they denied Armando Galarraga his perfecto. I credit Hillman's leadership, especially that "put away the chairs" thing he did in Spring Training. Oh, and league average superstar Jose Guillen's feisty attitude. He won't let this bunch accept failure.

Even with four garbage time runs in the first game of the series -- aka the Jimmy Gobble/Penacutioner game -- the Royals couldn't muster enough runs cumulatively to win a single game against the Tigers, a mediocre team with a first place lineup and a fourth place pitching staff.

Perhaps this is life as a .450 ballclub: a mix of the semi-good, like taking two of three from the White Sox and the wholly-bad in a proportion that doesn't quite cancel itself out. For this observer, its been a frustrating and embittering season despite the miniscule uptick in the team's composite performance. (At 45-57 the Royals are actually dead even with last season's record through 102 games.) Somehow, the particular takeaways from this season to date just don't inspire much enthusiasm going forward: the Royals are 32-52 against the American League and unfortunately, no more games against the Senior Circuit are scheduled. Oh wait, Trey's planning for a 180 game season. My bad. The Royals are slated to play the National League Champions this October. And Games 1 & 2 will be at the K.

But it really isn't about wins and losses this season, and just about everyone has known that from the beginning. No, what was needed was some sign that the core of the franchise was rounding into shape and that said core would be competitive for the next two or three seasons. That hasn't happened. Essentially, the positive developments this season have been DeJesus's career campaign, Greinke's emergence as a solid #2 (39th in VORP, before today) and... I suppose the fun we've had with Mike Aviles. (Soria was last year's news.)

The pitching staff that looked so good in April has slowly decayed to pieces. The Royals are 13th in the AL in ERA and 12th in SLG allowed.  Hochevar remains not quite there and Gil Meche remains Gil Meche. Brian Bannister has struggled mightily in the face of some weird, 80's movie-esque body swap with Kyle Davies. The bullpen has had its moments, but after three months of attrition has become sufficiently Peralta-fied. Of course, it's also being asked to pitch four innings a night, so it's understandable that meltdowns and poor matchups have occurred. 

Offensively, whereas we were initially afraid that Dayton Moore might have an OBP blindspot, we might now have to worry about his inability to acquire batting average and slugging as well. Ross Gload and Joey Gathright have been given 532 PAs, and have fifteen extra base hits to show for it. Mark Teahen has evoked memories of Terrence Long, and beloved aspiring DH of the future Miguel Olivo has been brutal for two months.

Most painfully, supposed can't miss prospects Alex Gordon and Billy Butler have mostly missed, while nightly we see highlights of Tim Lincecum, Evan Longoria, Prince Fielder, Ryan Braun and the like. Why can't the Royals ever have that guy? Hell, why can't we have someone like Jody Gerut? I'd much rather be 35-67, but with Gordon and Butler dominating the league than what we've seen so far.

And now the precocious Rays, like a more successful sibling, come calling, inviting all sorts of uncomfortable comparisons. Sure, Gordon and Butler can still breakout, much less improve. Sure, the starting rotation looks good going forward. Sure, DeJesus and Guillen give us a fighting chance to have a good outfield. All of that being said, there's been a lot more disappointment than satisfaction this season, creating a sense that, our guys just don't quite pan out like people on other teams.

Seriously, I don't know how this team has 45 wins, other than interleague play and some good timing regarding certain hit streaks and the cumulative good pitching of April. Non-building blocks like Grudz and Mahay have been valuable, and Jose Guillen's insanely hot June was just what the doctor ordered at the time, and makes his overall numbers less productive looking then they have been.

The Royals have one elite player, one guy who is perhaps the best at his position in the league, in Joakim Soria. Sadly, he's a specialist who plays less than half the time. Beyond that it's a more valuable -- though less viscerally thrilling -- Zack Greinke, maybe five guys who are safely "good players" and a roster that doesn't quite suck as much as it did in the past.

Where are we having that parade again, Dayton?

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I think we micro-analyze every game

Relive Royals History at royalsretro.blogspot.com

by RoyalsRetro on Jul 23, 2008 5:09 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Of course we don't

How many post-game or post-series there are there after won games or sweeps by the Royals? Maybe a dozen. Take out the ones that I’ve created and you’ve got a handful. Compare that to how many tooth-gnashing threads there are post-loss. For some odd reason, we prefer to whine about losses than celebrate wins.

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Jul 23, 2008 5:11 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I disagree

I haven’t found that to be the case. It just seems that way because there are more losses.

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by RoyalsRetro on Jul 23, 2008 5:13 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Look at the stats

If you go back and look at how many post-game threads have been created after wins and after losses, it isn’t even close, and it isn’t at all proportional to the team’s actual wins and losses. There is always more complaining on this site than anything positive. And, for some odd reason, we prefer to bitch about losses a lot more than celebrate wins. By a large margin.

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Jul 23, 2008 5:15 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

That's just old school baseball conventional wisdom

Do you have any metrics to back it up?

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by RoyalsRetro on Jul 23, 2008 5:16 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I'm working on it very hard

I’ve got 4 different spreadsheets crunching the relevant numbers right now.

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Jul 23, 2008 5:17 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Its not just us, its human nature...watch the news, its all about

death and grief and sorrow and murder…Its interesting when people die, give us dirty laundry.

My mother's basement is better than YOUR mother's basement!!

by Royal Kingdom on Jul 23, 2008 5:17 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I'm not claiming it is any personal or unique failing of Royals fans

It’s just an emotional reaction to years of losing. Because of that, many fans overreact emotionally to every loss and sweep. They have more of a negative emotional reaction to losses than the positive emotional reaction to wins. That’s why you see a flurry of bitching after losses and a very modest amount of celebrating after wins.

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Jul 23, 2008 5:20 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I think also

When a team is ten games under .500, wins just don’t seem that great. I mean, even if the Royals win today, so what? They’re still ten games under .500. That’s not that great. Unless and until we get on a hot streak, there really isn’t a whole lot to get excited about. This team isn’t making big strides in improvement – they seem to be stagnating, at least at the MLB level.

Plus, we tend to overstate negative concepts sometimes – its human nature.

Relive Royals History at royalsretro.blogspot.com

by RoyalsRetro on Jul 23, 2008 5:22 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

By the same token
When a team is ten games under .500, wins just don’t seem that great. I mean, even if the Royals win today, so what? They’re still ten games under .500. That’s not that great.

And if you lose, you’re 11 games under .500. Is that much worse?

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Jul 23, 2008 5:23 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Its a cumulation

Of the season’s frustrations.

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by RoyalsRetro on Jul 23, 2008 5:24 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I'm sure that's true

and that of past seasons. And yet people still try to pretend (even in this thread) that there isn’t more negative reaction to losses than positive reaction to wins.

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Jul 23, 2008 5:26 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

We are, by nature, fixers. We tend to think we are smarter/better than the

incumbant, so we voice our opinions. When there is nothing to fix, we remain silent…er

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by Royal Kingdom on Jul 23, 2008 5:27 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I think it's more that

we can celebrate alone, but bitching at ourselves in failure is too much to cope with.

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on Jul 23, 2008 5:29 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

The fans of this team are particularly morbid (or perhaps morose)

We love to hammer away at this team much more than we enjoy celebrating its positives. We have for a long time. I don’t really get why people enjoy that. I just think they get angry at their favorite team for letting them down, so they lash out at them and like to do it among like minded people.

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Jul 23, 2008 5:30 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

maybe it is better to release anger and frustration on

a blog, rather than kicking the dog or punching a door.

The concept of progress acts as a protective mechanism to shield us from the terrors of the future. - Collected sayings of Muad'Dib

by buddyball on Jul 23, 2008 5:31 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

It's not just us, though.

The Yankees or Red Sox can be 12 games out in front, and if one team sweeps the other, the losing fan’s teams can’t get to the medicine cabinet fast enough.

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on Jul 23, 2008 5:31 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

i checked a Red Sox thread once and there were

hardly any comments, there probably is some inverse proportionaliey regarding quality of team/no. of comments. NHZ, you are a Sox fan aren’t you? yet you spend your time wallowing with us. Can you explain??

My mother's basement is better than YOUR mother's basement!!

by Royal Kingdom on Jul 23, 2008 5:35 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Many teams have big fansites (outside of SB Nation) which get a lot of in-game traffic

I know this is true of the Red Sox, Yankees, Cubs, Chisox and many other teams. Lack of traffic on their SB Nation site isn’t a meaningful reflection of the team’s fanbase.

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Jul 23, 2008 5:37 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Yes

I write “Spreadsheet Baseball” here when I find a particularly good topic that I feel we haven’t covered that extensively…the Royals are basically my second team now, and I don’t really care for the Red Sox blog all that much…I already get plenty of sox talk done with my friends.

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Jul 23, 2008 5:37 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

i thought this series was pretty dismal,

but, I just looked at the Tampa Bay series and we were crunched like 23-6 in the first three games of that too. that’s the last one I remember feeling hopeless over.

I think NYRoyal is right, but we’re fans, and that is what fans do, they are emotional about something that is so insignificant (geez, I sound like my wife) that its hard to understand.

there’s a thing in psych called prospect theory, that basically says people in general undervalue gains and overvalue losses. Seems to me that is what is going on a lot. Lots of losing over the last 10 years doesn’t help. Telling yourself to be patient all the time is not nearly as cathartic as bitching about the manager, etc.

Royals Win!

by gordonfan on Jul 23, 2008 5:29 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

To be fair, this was a truly epic disaster of a series.

After one game, we’d blown the run differential we’d accumulated against the Tiggrrz over six wins. Then we got blown out two more times, and let a career nobody take a perfect game into the seventh inning.

This wasn’t like a sweep where we lost three games by a combined 13-8.

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on Jul 23, 2008 5:27 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

And yet it doesn't just happen after truly epic disaster series

It is S.O.P. after most losses.

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Jul 23, 2008 5:29 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Oh, I know.

I’m just saying that today is probably not the day you’re going to find converts to our side of this one. ;)

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on Jul 23, 2008 5:30 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

For the record, I never look for converts

It would be like trying to change someone’s religious affiliation. There’s too much heart, emotion and identity tied up in it.

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Jul 23, 2008 5:31 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I don't know - we (as a community) get pretty giddy in sweeps

The concept of progress acts as a protective mechanism to shield us from the terrors of the future. - Collected sayings of Muad'Dib

by buddyball on Jul 23, 2008 5:05 PM EDT   0 recs

Exceptions which prove the rule

The existence of some exceptional occurrences do not negate the overwhelming desire to wallow in losses. Will, how many post-loss threads have you created and how many post-win? What do you think the ratio is, 10:1?

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Jul 23, 2008 5:12 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

That was me

and like NYRoyal, I find myself to be one of the few who is mostly positive, even during the losing. I think I’ve made a few fanposts this year and 2 have been positive and 1 semi-negative. Even in the negative one, though, I tried to spin it positively at the end.

by I need more Esteban on Jul 23, 2008 11:52 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I also think there are several of us

who may sound negative at times, but are actually just engaging in gallows humor.

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on Jul 24, 2008 2:46 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

if we get bitter

thank goodness we can concentrate on guns and religion
or become a nation in mental recession and begin whining

oh, it’s going to be a great campaign season

The concept of progress acts as a protective mechanism to shield us from the terrors of the future. - Collected sayings of Muad'Dib

by buddyball on Jul 23, 2008 5:07 PM EDT   0 recs

The post-loss hyperbole threads are our guns and religion

And we cling to them desperately.

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Jul 23, 2008 5:13 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

If only that were true

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Jul 23, 2008 5:16 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Remember when we owned the Tigers?

That was awesome. We’ll always have those memories.

Relive Royals History at royalsretro.blogspot.com

by RoyalsRetro on Jul 23, 2008 5:10 PM EDT   0 recs

Funny how meta this has gotten

Guess the Royals are too boring to talk about anymore.

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by RoyalsRetro on Jul 23, 2008 5:17 PM EDT   0 recs

At least it is no more boring than

The Royals suck. This is the worst team ever. 100 losses here we come. This team will be set to contend by 2020, 2 GMs and 3 managers from now.

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Jul 23, 2008 5:18 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I missed the fanposts that wrote that

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by RoyalsRetro on Jul 23, 2008 5:22 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

All you have to do is click and read

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Jul 23, 2008 5:24 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Don't see em

I must be looking in the wrong place.

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by RoyalsRetro on Jul 23, 2008 5:25 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Or you choose not to see them or pass right over them

You don’t see the negative hyperbole in gamethreads? You don’t see the incessant negativity?

The team has been losing for years and losses now meet with overwhelming negativity which doesn’t even come close to matching the positivity after wins.

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Jul 23, 2008 5:27 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I guess we all have to complain about something

I complain about incessant emotional negativity. You complain about me. Everybody’s happy. :)

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Jul 23, 2008 5:35 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Complaint

who the hell do you think you are, T.E. Lawrence??

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Jul 23, 2008 5:38 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

My point

Big reactions with lots of posts after a loss. Small reactions with few posts after a win. We prefer to wallow in losses much more than celebrate victories. Is focusing on pain and negativity human nature, while enjoying and celebrating good things somehow less human?

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Jul 23, 2008 5:40 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

That's an interesting hypothesis

...but I don’t buy it. I think people like experiencing happiness with others as much as they like suffering with others. In fact, I think most human beings do their suffering alone and internally. That’s what gives rise to dysfunctional depression.

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Jul 23, 2008 5:43 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

When we win

we can walk around and be happy. Sure, we can celebrate with others, but we don’t feel a NEED to, unless the victory is glorious (like a playoff win or something).

When we lose… we want comfort. We want to commiserate. That is why there’s more of a reaction to a loss than a win.

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on Jul 23, 2008 5:42 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

A good point

I’ll bet people are more likely to leave when we win.

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Jul 23, 2008 5:43 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Ah, but why would one NEED to celebrate alone, but NEED to bitch with others?

Clearly Royals fans like bitching more than celebrating or making positive comments, but I don’t think that is because of an inherent human desire to share suffering while keeping happiness to themselves.

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Jul 23, 2008 5:44 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I guess that would be why

we immediately throw parties when we find out a baby’s on the way, but we seclude ourselves when someone dies.

Oh, wait, it’s almost the exact opposite.

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on Jul 23, 2008 5:46 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Are you...pregnant?

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Jul 23, 2008 5:47 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

NO

I just had some bad tuna.

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on Jul 23, 2008 5:48 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Are you trying to hide

good news from us?

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Jul 23, 2008 6:01 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

He's savoring his happiness

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Jul 23, 2008 6:04 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

You know this for a fact?

Of course you don’t. This is all about opinion on both sides. And people keep negative stuff and bad feelings to themselves all the time. That’s why therapists and anti-depressant manufactures make so much money.

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Jul 23, 2008 6:14 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Certainly

but it’s hardly an indisputable fact that they’ll share positive emotions more often, right? I mean, looking at this as an emotionless stathead, how do you generalize that argument?

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Jul 23, 2008 6:18 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

We don't throw parties when a baby is on the way?

What is a baby shower? And when someone finds out they are pregnant (and happy about it…and they feel they are past the miscarriage threshold), does one keep that news to one’s self, or does one share it with all of one’s friends and loved ones?

And when people are sad or depressed, do they usually share that with others or keep it to themselves?

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Jul 23, 2008 5:49 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

You missed the word "immediately."

The point is, there are a lot of positive feelings that we like to savor in solitude for awhile. If I have a great date, I’m not going to pick up the phone and start calling my friends to tell them about it. I might discuss it the next day or something, but right there in that moment, I just want to bask in it.

Meanwhile, if my mother died, I’d be on the phone non-stop, looking for some semblance of comfort.

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on Jul 23, 2008 5:52 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

What morse is saying

is that he does an Esteban German bat flip after a good date, which doesn’t require any help. When things go badly, he calls his friends to watch Laguna Beach. And you need help to get through that show.

Amiright?

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Jul 23, 2008 5:53 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Because "immediately" is irrelevant

Do you know why funerals traditionally are always done immediately? Because for a long time you couldn’t really afford to keep the body around for obvious reasons. So funerals happen quickly. For a baby shower or a wedding shower, you have some time to plan an event and have it months in the future.

But when one finds out one is pregnant or engaged, one shares that happy news with others…immediately (of course some wait on the pregnancy news to make sure they get past the 3-month threshold).

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Jul 23, 2008 5:54 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I'm not talking about funerals.

I’m talking about the immediate phone calls to figuratively cry on someone’s shoulder.

And you are wrong; women do not share the news of their pregnancy with everyone. They simply do not. They wait, until they feel like sharing it.

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on Jul 23, 2008 5:55 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

And I've told you why they wait

People do not hesitate to share happy news unless there is some special reason to keep it to one’s self.

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Jul 23, 2008 5:56 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs