Rosenthal: Yanks Interested in Olivo
But what about our catching depth?!?!
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Awesome
This means we are getting Wilson Betemit.
by Gopherballs on
Jul 23, 2008 5:01 PM EDT
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He might not be Christian enough
And he’s not a pitcher. So Dayton Moore definitely wouldn’t acquire him. Also, he’s not completely worthless, so that’s another strike against him.
This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.
by NYRoyal on
Jul 23, 2008 5:21 PM EDT
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But he is an ex-Brave
Actually, I’d like to pick up Betimet. Given a chance, I think he could provide some pop. And he’s still youngish. I can’t see us getting him for Olivo, but who knows?
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by RoyalsRetro on
Jul 23, 2008 5:24 PM EDT
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Betemit is essentially the same player as Jhonny Peralta
just cheaper and used more appropriately. Some team is going to be very happy when Betemit has his career year, followed by an unhappy team that signs him to a contract based on that career year.
by Gopherballs on
Jul 23, 2008 5:31 PM EDT
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that would be nice
landing Betemit would make me feel better that the Yanks got him for Scott Proctor last year and all we got for Dotel was Davies
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by marbotty on
Jul 24, 2008 4:43 PM EDT
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Tupman has a major-league batting average of 1.000
If that’s not depth, I don’t know what is.
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by cmkeller on
Jul 23, 2008 6:11 PM EDT
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Could they get Gardner for him?
NY in the past just buys new players given their new so called develop within stance would they give up a Top 10 org prospect? Other than Gardner and a few pitching prospects the Yanks just don’t have a whole lot to give up. Man they are lucky Joba came out of no where and cruised thru their system otherwise they would be totally hamstrung.
Who cares about RBI's, how many HDB's you got?
by kcscoliny on
Jul 24, 2008 11:28 AM EDT
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Austin Jackson, Jose Tabata, and Jose Montero say hello
The NY system is deep on pitchers, and has some very high upside bats. Joba was a highly regarded collegiate pitcher who dropped in the draft due to injuries his last year of college, so he did not exactly come out of nowhere.
Gardner is a step above Gathright due to a better glove and an ability to hit the ball into the outfield once in awhile, but Gardner’s future might be as a 4th OF type. I doubt the Yankees view him as a cornerstone of the future.
by Gopherballs on
Jul 24, 2008 12:28 PM EDT
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Gardner
Seems a lot like a white Joey Gathright to me. Maybe a Reggie Willits-type, stat-wise and ethnically.
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by RoyalsRetro on
Jul 24, 2008 3:18 PM EDT
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Gardner vs Gathright
I think Gardner may be better than Gathright. Let’s compare minor league career stats:
Gardner: 288/388/385
Gathright: 319/394/369
Gardner: 150/180 SB (83.3%)
Gathright: 196/256 SB (76.6%)
Gardner: 224 BB 282 K 1397 AB
Gathright: 175 BB 255 K 1475 AB
Gardner: 90 XBH in 1397 AB
Gathright: 59 XBH in 1475 AB
I think the last line is the most telling. Gardner’s ISO, while not teriffic, is at least .097, significantly better than Gathright’s .050
Other factors – Gardner is younger, and as such has not had the opportunity in the majors that Gathright has. Why did Gathright fail to live up to his translations? Well, to me the most telling problem is the poor ISO. This leads to major league pitchers realizing it is far better to throw one right down the middle than to walk Joey. While Gardner does not possess power either, I’ll bet he can at least drive a ball to the gaps or down BOTH lines far more often than Gathright. If true, then perhaps he could hang on to his best skill, which to me is his plate discipline.
Should add – Joey’s minor league numbers are boosted by a good year he had at an older age than Gardner, so the difference may be a bit more pronounced than my analysis above.
by loyal2sdad on
Jul 24, 2008 6:23 PM EDT
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Scouts seem to like Gardner a lot
This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.
by NYRoyal on
Jul 25, 2008 1:03 AM EDT
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I gotta say
that I’m not sure I agree with them at all.
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by NHZ on
Jul 25, 2008 12:50 PM EDT
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Well, they like his skills
I don’t think we’ve seen his skills. I’m not saying evaluating a prospect is all about raw skills. But that should be part of one’s evaluation of a prospect. On the performance side, he looks like a high OBP guy with low power. His minor league career totals are .288/.388/.385. That’s a high OBP which is not primarily BA driven. He usually draws about as many walks as strikeouts. And he’s maintained his high OBP in the high minors. Add to that a good deal of SB’s at a high success rate. I’m not saying he’s a top prospect, but he looks like a pretty good prospect to me. I think Olivo for Gardner would be a steal for the Royals.
This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.
by NYRoyal on
Jul 25, 2008 2:08 PM EDT
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Don't we have another catcher in the minor leagues named Pena?
Destined for failure.
by JobDDT on
Jul 24, 2008 7:10 PM EDT
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Are you talking about Brayan Pena in Omaha (AAA)?
He’s the next pitcher on the depth chart after Buck and Olivo.
This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.
by NYRoyal on
Jul 25, 2008 1:02 AM EDT
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Are Buck and Olivo
before or after Tony Pena on the pitching depth chart?
I need to make sure I have this all sorted out…
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by jonfmorse on
Jul 25, 2008 3:16 AM EDT
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I think the pitching depth chart is
T. Pena
Olivo
Buck
Olivo has a pretty good arm, but control problems. Pena’s the complete package.
This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.
by NYRoyal on
Jul 25, 2008 4:04 AM EDT
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