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Game 105 Open Thread - Rays at Royals

Tampa Bay Rays at Kansas City Royals, Jul 26, 2008 7:10 PM EDT


Could the news Rays hats be any more boring?

I know they're going for a clean, mature, we're-not-a-goofy-90's-relic vibe, but seriously, a plain "TB" design? There's not even a cool way they are interlocking or an appealing typeface (like our beloved Royals use).

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first!

Yay!

I really don't know what to say... Did the post above this signature make sense? Probably not.

by RoyalsFanInMarinerTown on Jul 26, 2008 6:11 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

this will be a game that will keep us warm next winter, with

comforting thoughts of glorious battle

The concept of progress acts as a protective mechanism to shield us from the terrors of the future. - Collected sayings of Muad'Dib

by buddyball on Jul 26, 2008 6:21 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

lineuppppppppppps

A. Iwamura 2b 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .276
B.J. Upton cf 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .269
C. Crawford lf 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .265
E. Longoria 3b 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .276
C. Pena 1b 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .234
W. Aybar dh 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .236
D. Navarro c 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .316
E. Hinske rf 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .256
J. Bartlett ss 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .262
Totals

D. DeJesus cf 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .305
M. Aviles ss 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .305
M. Grudzielanek 2b 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .302
J. Guillen rf 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .260
B. Butler dh 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .253
A. Gordon 3b 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .249
J. Buck c 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .253
R. Gload 1b 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .266
E. German lf 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .245
Totals

by Fernando Vina School of Linguistics on Jul 26, 2008 6:25 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Is it too soon to complain about Maier not being in the lineup?

Seriously, they have to be trying to showcase Gload and German right?
Bench Gload, slide Butler to first, slide DDJ to left, and put Maier in CF…cause we’re small market, and we can’t afford to throw away money for high gas prices to bring him up here and not play him.

by RoyalsFanInBillings on Jul 26, 2008 6:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

thats exactly what i thought we should do.

You walk into guitar center and you see all the fuckin stupid shit, you pick up the right instrument and mwahhhh!!!

by teahen24 on Jul 26, 2008 6:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Daily reminder

Gload is not going to be benched. It simply is not going to happen. Trey believes he is a major-league first baseman. You may as well save your fingers’ breath.

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on Jul 26, 2008 6:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Or if you insist on keeping Butler as a DH...

anyone else think German could handle first base? I know his numbers are down, but as crowded as our middle infield is (again), if we insist on showcasing him for a potential trade, don’t do it as the expense of developing our own prospects/finding out what we actually have.

by RoyalsFanInBillings on Jul 26, 2008 6:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

our lineup... no teahen still.

DeJesus CF
Aviles SS
Grudz 2B
Guillen RF
Butler DH
Gordon 3B
Buck C
Gload 1B
German LF

You walk into guitar center and you see all the fuckin stupid shit, you pick up the right instrument and mwahhhh!!!

by teahen24 on Jul 26, 2008 6:31 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Why no Teahen?

Is this a way to get German a few more at bats to showcase him just before the trading deadline?

www.rockchalktalk.com for pretty good KU baseball coverage

by James Quinn on Jul 26, 2008 6:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Back problems.

It’s been all over the news, y’know.

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on Jul 26, 2008 6:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I gotta check that news stuff more often.

www.rockchalktalk.com for pretty good KU baseball coverage

by James Quinn on Jul 26, 2008 6:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Also

His numbers this month have been Pena-like, so really…

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on Jul 26, 2008 6:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I have no idea why,

but for some reason hope springs eternal within me for Mark.

www.rockchalktalk.com for pretty good KU baseball coverage

by James Quinn on Jul 26, 2008 6:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I know

I spent the first half of the season defending him, but I just can’t anymore.

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on Jul 26, 2008 6:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

all he needs is a chance...

The concept of progress acts as a protective mechanism to shield us from the terrors of the future. - Collected sayings of Muad'Dib

by buddyball on Jul 26, 2008 6:53 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Is anyone else ironically depressed that Grudz is hitting third?

Not any knocks against him, he’s had a great year, it’s just another reminder how far we still have to go that the only other real option for that spot in the lineup also has to hit leadoff.

by RoyalsFanInBillings on Jul 26, 2008 6:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I've noticed something disturbing about Grudz.

He’s gotten better every year since coming to town. (His OPS+ is a little lower than last year due to a power slip, but then he’s not a power guy anyway.)

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on Jul 26, 2008 6:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

good point

makes it all the more frustrating that his value is so low for potential trades. We just need an epidemic to send the 2B on the bosox, yanks, angels, cubs, rays, etc. to the DL.

by RoyalsFanInBillings on Jul 26, 2008 6:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Grudz is gonna be one of those guys...

That peaks at 45…I project a .340/.450/.600 line that season for him

I refuse to set up a signature....DAMMIT

by RoyalPug on Jul 26, 2008 7:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Clearly he has discovered the fountain of youth

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by RoyalsRetro on Jul 26, 2008 7:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's the battle for Jasper, Alabama

Jasper, about 20 minutes northwest of Birmingham, is the current eastern end of the currently-under-construction new Interstate 22, which will connect B’ham with Memphis. It’s about 635 miles from KC, and 630 miles from Tampa. Jasper has a population of about 14,000, and is the county seat of Walker County.

Jasper’s sympathies clearly lie with our beloved boys in blue, as Jasper’s initial boom in the late 19th century was the result of the completion of a railroad line through town. That railroad? The Kansas City-Memphis & Birmingham. With such a deep historical tie, one might suspect that the local citizens of this fine community may take great objection to the trespasses of those vile heathens from Tampa.

Jasper is the location of 1977 Class 4-A football state finalists Walker High School, and is the birthplace of famed comedian George “Goober Pyle” Lindsay and Polly “Flo from Alice” Holliday, as well as former Speaker of the House William Brockman Bankhead. Actress Tallulah Bankhead grew up in Jasper. More recently, Jasper was mentioned as the hometown of James “Sawyer” Ford from the television series “Lost.”

Let’s arm the troops, and drive those Floridian bastards back to Birmingham. FOR JASPER.

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on Jul 26, 2008 6:38 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Doyle Alexander

is from a few miles outside of Jasper, too. Huh.

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on Jul 26, 2008 6:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

so maybe it will be a battle for Doyle Alexander

The concept of progress acts as a protective mechanism to shield us from the terrors of the future. - Collected sayings of Muad'Dib

by buddyball on Jul 26, 2008 6:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I like the clean look for the Rays

Their old unis were absolutely hideous.

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by RoyalsRetro on Jul 26, 2008 6:38 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Did I just see that right?

Are we using child labor to hand out bobbleheads?!

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on Jul 26, 2008 7:10 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Which is unfortunate

Maybe seeing small children get mauled by fans clammoring for a piece of Quis would get the team fired up.

I refuse to set up a signature....DAMMIT

by RoyalPug on Jul 26, 2008 7:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Royals v. Kazmir

D. DeJesus: 4 for 9
M. Aviles: 0 for 0
M. Grudzielanek: 4 for 11
J. Guillen: 0 for 6
B. Butler: 1 for 2
A. Gordon: 0 for 6
J. Buck: 2 for 6
R. Gload: 0 for 0
E. German: 1 for 5

and I’m watching Talladega Nights now

by BHWick on Jul 26, 2008 7:12 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Oh, look, a two-out triple

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on Jul 26, 2008 7:13 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I'm telling you...

If we change the rules so that there are only 2 outs in an inning, we would have the greatest staff EVER.

we’d also be routinely shut out.

I’d be happy with that.

I refuse to set up a signature....DAMMIT

by RoyalPug on Jul 26, 2008 7:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Interesting news there

The team’s done a study on the pitching staff’s 2-out issues and presented it to them, so it’s a priority issue.

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on Jul 26, 2008 7:14 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Wow...

Luke had a runner in scoring position with 2 outs and didn’t let him score….maybe its working

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by RoyalPug on Jul 26, 2008 7:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

why am I craving Sonic?

Is it just because I can’t go five minutes away to have Sonic whenever I want it?

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on Jul 26, 2008 7:16 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

They've opened locations in Delaware and Pennsylvania in the last month.

But completely leapfrogged DC.

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on Jul 26, 2008 7:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hey, sometimes a guy's just gotta have a Coney

and getting a chili dog at 7-11 just isn’t the same

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on Jul 26, 2008 7:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I had a cranberry lemondae there that was really good

maybe because it was so hot outside when I had it

The concept of progress acts as a protective mechanism to shield us from the terrors of the future. - Collected sayings of Muad'Dib

by buddyball on Jul 26, 2008 7:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

When pregnant

My wife’s only craving was Sonic. Probably didn’t help I was watching Royals games with ads for coney dogs every inning.

Relive Royals History at royalsretro.blogspot.com

by RoyalsRetro on Jul 26, 2008 7:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

probably...

Just moved to KC…never liked Runza before that…now I’m CRAVING it…

I refuse to set up a signature....DAMMIT

by RoyalPug on Jul 26, 2008 7:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Where is one?

Only one I’ve ever see was in Lawrence

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by RoyalsRetro on Jul 26, 2008 7:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah

Guillen being a RHB has helped him against Kazmir so far

by BHWick on Jul 26, 2008 7:17 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Guillen's a batter?

I refuse to set up a signature....DAMMIT

by RoyalPug on Jul 26, 2008 7:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

those Sonic guys crack me up

The concept of progress acts as a protective mechanism to shield us from the terrors of the future. - Collected sayings of Muad'Dib

by buddyball on Jul 26, 2008 7:17 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I was stunned

To find one writes for Saturday Night Live.

Okay, I guess its not that surprising considering how good SNL has been.

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by RoyalsRetro on Jul 26, 2008 7:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

"good"

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Jul 26, 2008 7:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

tell me it isn't the totally moronic one

The concept of progress acts as a protective mechanism to shield us from the terrors of the future. - Collected sayings of Muad'Dib

by buddyball on Jul 26, 2008 8:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Aviles is slumping again

winning records follow good bullpens

by slayor on Jul 26, 2008 7:20 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

He'll come out of it

He is, after all, a minor deity

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on Jul 26, 2008 7:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Grudz - showcasing his talents

The concept of progress acts as a protective mechanism to shield us from the terrors of the future. - Collected sayings of Muad'Dib

by buddyball on Jul 26, 2008 7:21 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

run you jerk

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by buddyball on Jul 26, 2008 7:22 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

do we need to fly Jose Guillen's family into town

so that he can hit the ball well?

Oh yeah, 0 for 7 now. The 12 Million Dollar Man Strikes again.

by BHWick on Jul 26, 2008 7:22 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Hochevar cannot afford to walk guys...

winning records follow good bullpens

by slayor on Jul 26, 2008 7:26 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I think Aybar...

Is about the only person I feel comfortable with Hochevar pitching too

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by RoyalPug on Jul 26, 2008 7:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

They're discussing

Their commitment to Christ.

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by RoyalsRetro on Jul 26, 2008 7:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The cut fastball of death

idk if that showed up on Monday though

by BHWick on Jul 26, 2008 7:27 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Here we gooooooooo

winning records follow good bullpens

by slayor on Jul 26, 2008 7:28 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Can he get the last 2 outs?!?!

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by slayor on Jul 26, 2008 7:29 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I like our chances of a DP here

The concept of progress acts as a protective mechanism to shield us from the terrors of the future. - Collected sayings of Muad'Dib

by buddyball on Jul 26, 2008 7:32 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

We were all wrong

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on Jul 26, 2008 7:36 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

It would be nice to see a Royals starter

Have a 10 pitch inning.

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by RoyalsRetro on Jul 26, 2008 7:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

(fixed)

It would be nice to see a Royals starter other than Meche after the third inning have a 10-pitch inning.

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on Jul 26, 2008 7:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

2 innings - 40 pitches

Mechesque

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by buddyball on Jul 26, 2008 7:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

you are still up to bat Mr. Bartlett

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by buddyball on Jul 26, 2008 7:40 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Every time I see Kazmir pitch

I am reminded of what a moron Steve Phillips is.

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by RoyalsRetro on Jul 26, 2008 7:42 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Duquette?

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by RoyalsRetro on Jul 26, 2008 7:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Jim Duquette’s tenure as the Mets’ GM is largely remembered for the trade of top pitching prospect Scott Kazmir to the Tampa Bay Devil Rays for the injury-prone and unproductive Victor Zambrano, which may have cost Duquette his job. As of 2007, Kazmir has appeared in an All Star game, while Zambrano did almost nothing for Mets, and is currently not active, having been released by Toronto.

by Fernando Vina School of Linguistics on Jul 26, 2008 7:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yanks were looking at him

That should tell us something

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by RoyalsRetro on Jul 26, 2008 7:46 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

BOOOOOOO

You still suck, Tim!

by BHWick on Jul 26, 2008 7:43 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

E-fan

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by jonfmorse on Jul 26, 2008 7:43 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Tim

is dead to me

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by RoyalsRetro on Jul 26, 2008 7:44 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Good wood on that one

Billy could be coming around

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by jonfmorse on Jul 26, 2008 7:44 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Why does Alex

do that “slow stroll across the plate” thing?

One of these days, a catcher’s going to go ahead and just drill him.

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on Jul 26, 2008 7:45 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Because he's a entitled d-bag

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Jul 26, 2008 7:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh snap, he just hit Buck!!11

winning records follow good bullpens

by slayor on Jul 26, 2008 7:48 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

wtf Ross

He was trying to hit another homer

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by jonfmorse on Jul 26, 2008 7:48 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I'm amazed it went that far

winning records follow good bullpens

by slayor on Jul 26, 2008 7:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's his longest hit this year!

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Jul 26, 2008 7:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Is it wrong of me to want him to pop out to second every at bat

even if it’s two out, bottom of the ninth, bases loaded, and us down by a run?

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on Jul 26, 2008 7:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

But that's such a lack of variety

how about an occasional slow grounder to second?

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Jul 26, 2008 7:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

No

He might ROE if that happens, then he’ll be “clutch” and “gritty” all over again

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on Jul 26, 2008 7:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

No if there are two outs

and, let’s face it, we always seem to be hitting with two outs.

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Jul 26, 2008 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

My bad

I thought you meant he might move a runner over.

And pop ups get dropped sometimes, too, ya know. :P

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Jul 26, 2008 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not nearly as often as booted grounders

or bad throws.

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on Jul 26, 2008 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

But still

You’re right, though, Gload could have a “productive out” or reach on an error if he grounds out.

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Jul 26, 2008 7:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Reminds of Willie Mays Hays in Major League 2

Trying to muscle up every time out.

Except Gload sucks.

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by RoyalsRetro on Jul 26, 2008 7:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

When Willie Mays Hays

has more power than you…

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by NHZ on Jul 26, 2008 7:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ross Gload is to hitting

What Dustin Diamond is to acting

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by RoyalsRetro on Jul 26, 2008 7:51 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Who is Dustin Diamond?

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by NHZ on Jul 26, 2008 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Relax guys

I’m just not that big of a Saved By The Bell fan.

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Jul 26, 2008 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Showgirls, on the other hand...

classic cinema.

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by jonfmorse on Jul 26, 2008 7:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Did you know

that Showgirls is in the top 20 of MGM’s all-time DVD sales list?

Just astounding.

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on Jul 26, 2008 7:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not exactly

but I’ve heard those names before.

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by NHZ on Jul 26, 2008 8:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

NOT EXACTLY?

Oh, good lord. My faith in your cinema expertise is shattered, shattered I say.

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by jonfmorse on Jul 26, 2008 8:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Happy to disappoint you, sir

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by NHZ on Jul 26, 2008 8:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

uno dos tres

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by jonfmorse on Jul 26, 2008 7:56 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Ok

now they acknowledge that it’s Mark Bryant

by BHWick on Jul 26, 2008 8:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ethical query

Why is it not okay for a pitcher to deceive the baserunner in his motion…

...but the hidden-ball trick is acceptable?

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on Jul 26, 2008 8:03 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

A 2:55 game

so will they bust out camo uniforms that will make Tony Muser jealous of Trey Hillman’s luck

by BHWick on Jul 26, 2008 8:07 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Gritz

on fyahh!

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on Jul 26, 2008 8:12 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

12 Million Dollar Man Strikes again

Can we find another cleanup hitter for a day or two?

by BHWick on Jul 26, 2008 8:16 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Holy crap

Billy beats an infield groundball!

by BHWick on Jul 26, 2008 8:26 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

EPIC

winning records follow good bullpens

by slayor on Jul 26, 2008 8:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ok

not quite, but still

by BHWick on Jul 26, 2008 8:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

wheels

where tpj happens.

by blue bandwagon on Jul 26, 2008 8:26 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

TREY'S GONE

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by jonfmorse on Jul 26, 2008 8:27 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

If Gordon doesn't feel confident enough against Kazmir to hit

To the point that he’s bunting, why is he in the lineup

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by slayor on Jul 26, 2008 8:27 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

...what?

You just assume it was Gordon’s decision to bunt?

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by jonfmorse on Jul 26, 2008 8:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Why did Hillman get ejected?

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Jul 26, 2008 8:29 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

The usual reason

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by jonfmorse on Jul 26, 2008 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He yelled and stomped and spat

and argued and debated and tore his hair out and grabbed his balls and sang a song?

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Jul 26, 2008 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Pretty much.

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on Jul 26, 2008 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think he might have said a bad word

I don’t think I have been watching more baseball or watching it any closer than before, but I believe I have seen more bad calls made this year than ever. Both ways. Anyone else?

The concept of progress acts as a protective mechanism to shield us from the terrors of the future. - Collected sayings of Muad'Dib

by buddyball on Jul 26, 2008 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

trey's gone...

now what do we do?

where tpj happens.

by blue bandwagon on Jul 26, 2008 8:29 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Win?

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by NHZ on Jul 26, 2008 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I definitely had that first

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by NHZ on Jul 26, 2008 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Mine popped up first!

I must say, though, the time stamps have both comments at 830.

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by NHZ on Jul 26, 2008 8:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

there is no joy in mudville...

for mighty buck has struck out.

where tpj happens.

by blue bandwagon on Jul 26, 2008 8:31 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

This is mudville?

I always thought that was somewhere esoteric.

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by NHZ on Jul 26, 2008 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

check out the warning track if it rains

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by buddyball on Jul 26, 2008 8:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Upton is playing shallow since it's

Ross Gload, who is as dangerous as a sponge

by BHWick on Jul 26, 2008 8:31 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

EXPLOSION

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by NHZ on Jul 26, 2008 8:32 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Ross Gload's trade value is escalating

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by slayor on Jul 26, 2008 8:33 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

So that means

that we can trade him for the Cubs relief pitcher who threw at the dugout and missed?

by BHWick on Jul 26, 2008 8:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I was thinking a set of golf clubs

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by slayor on Jul 26, 2008 8:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wooooooo

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by NHZ on Jul 26, 2008 8:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

ross gload.

most. clutch. player. ever.

where tpj happens.

by blue bandwagon on Jul 26, 2008 8:33 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Clutchiest?

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Jul 26, 2008 8:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

most clutchest

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by buddyball on Jul 26, 2008 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

sorry, I'm calling jinx

and you owe me a cold drink

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by buddyball on Jul 26, 2008 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

was that a sub 10 pitch inning?

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by buddyball on Jul 26, 2008 8:42 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Rain delay time... weeeeeeeee

Hope that means Kazmir is done.

winning records follow good bullpens

by slayor on Jul 26, 2008 8:43 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

to rain delays! yay for beer! hooray beer! time to get a beer.

where tpj happens.

by blue bandwagon on Jul 26, 2008 8:44 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Time to switch to the STL/NYM game.......

for some more piling on of the Cards…...

NYM 5
STL 4

....the Mets started some 33-year old AAA guy Brandon Knight…..

by Fernando Vina School of Linguistics on Jul 26, 2008 8:45 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

is he that person I have heard referred to as the Dark Knight?

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by buddyball on Jul 26, 2008 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

only thing on near me is..

summer league basketball and nascar… shoooooooooooot me

by cfizzle on Jul 26, 2008 8:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Aflic Trivia Question for STL/NYM:

Who recorded the only six-hit game in Mets history?

by Fernando Vina School of Linguistics on Jul 26, 2008 8:49 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Radar time

yeah, this might take awhile

by BHWick on Jul 26, 2008 8:49 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

TPJ!

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by buddyball on Jul 26, 2008 8:50 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

So

who do we bring in for the 6th if we get that far tonight?

also, will they scrub this game entirely if it’s rained out? or will we start from the bottom of the 5th tomorrow?

If we start from the Bottom of the 5th, then we could bring in Davies to hopefully pitch 4 innings and pitch a few more innings in game 2.

by BHWick on Jul 26, 2008 8:53 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Mahay if it starts up again tonight?

The concept of progress acts as a protective mechanism to shield us from the terrors of the future. - Collected sayings of Muad'Dib

by buddyball on Jul 26, 2008 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Joey Gathright's pitcher jump on FSN's special now

does Best Damn Sports show do anything other than show clips now?

by BHWick on Jul 26, 2008 8:54 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

radar seems to indicate that the heaviest stuff is going south of the metro

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by buddyball on Jul 26, 2008 9:17 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

that means we have hope for tonight?

i’d rather not have to go out to a bar tonight..

by cfizzle on Jul 26, 2008 9:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

No more rain

but more is on the way, and the warning mote is flooded

by BHWick on Jul 26, 2008 9:32 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

is that a problem associated with the ongoing renovation?

it seems to be a big problem this summer

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by buddyball on Jul 26, 2008 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah

nobody realized that a giant hill + mud + erosion + problems for the warning track.

They will need to level the ground behind the fence to avoid those problems

by BHWick on Jul 26, 2008 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

just another example of how things would be better for all if we

just talked with geologists a little more.

The concept of progress acts as a protective mechanism to shield us from the terrors of the future. - Collected sayings of Muad'Dib

by buddyball on Jul 26, 2008 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

We're back, and Kaz is back too

for some reason. Watch him melt down

by BHWick on Jul 26, 2008 9:55 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Hey Mike

Chin-high pitches are not strikes

by BHWick on Jul 26, 2008 9:58 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

royals baseball!!!!

i’ve caught the fever!!!!

where tpj happens.

by blue bandwagon on Jul 26, 2008 10:01 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Yay

the game can’t end with a loss, yet

by BHWick on Jul 26, 2008 10:04 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

OMG

Jose RBI

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on Jul 26, 2008 10:04 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

GUILLEN!!!

bout time you got a hit…

where tpj happens.

by blue bandwagon on Jul 26, 2008 10:04 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

is this game really happening?

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by buddyball on Jul 26, 2008 10:05 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Yay! Gload grand-slam!

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on Jul 26, 2008 10:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

what would one have to eat or drink to cause a dream like that?

The concept of progress acts as a protective mechanism to shield us from the terrors of the future. - Collected sayings of Muad'Dib

by buddyball on Jul 26, 2008 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

THE ROYALS WIN THE SERIES!!!

THE ROYALS WIN THE SERIES!!!

where tpj happens.

by blue bandwagon on Jul 26, 2008 10:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

eat the worm at the bottom of an empty bottle of tequila?

The concept of progress acts as a protective mechanism to shield us from the terrors of the future. - Collected sayings of Muad'Dib

by buddyball on Jul 26, 2008 10:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

we're back on?

I was watching FSN and they were showing the boxer with Brights disease for like the 5,000th time.

Let’s get ahead and then have the rains come.

One man with courage makes a majority - Andrew Jackson

by Home Run Tony Cogan on Jul 26, 2008 10:08 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

ho ram sighting.

stay alert.

where tpj happens.

by blue bandwagon on Jul 26, 2008 10:09 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Yimmy Yobble threw on the side to test his lower back

gave up three runs…

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by buddyball on Jul 26, 2008 10:11 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

<rimshot>

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on Jul 26, 2008 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good Ho-Ram

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on Jul 26, 2008 10:14 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

give him a tasty treat

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by buddyball on Jul 26, 2008 10:16 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

the royals will dominate the rays!

and then the world! GO ROYALS!!!

where tpj happens.

by blue bandwagon on Jul 26, 2008 10:18 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Esty - efficient strikeout

The concept of progress acts as a protective mechanism to shield us from the terrors of the future. - Collected sayings of Muad'Dib

by buddyball on Jul 26, 2008 10:27 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Ho-Ram!

awesome!

The concept of progress acts as a protective mechanism to shield us from the terrors of the future. - Collected sayings of Muad'Dib

by buddyball on Jul 26, 2008 10:31 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

whoa....i'm late getting back to the party

But….Yet Another Piling On the STL Bullpen Update

Franklin gives up a solo shot to Tatis in the bottom of the 9th at Shea…....now tied 8-8, no outs

LaRussa and the FSN broadcasters sound like they are about to vomit. Ankiel almost robbed the HR.

by Fernando Vina School of Linguistics on Jul 26, 2008 10:34 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I'm glad I just traded Franklin

The concept of progress acts as a protective mechanism to shield us from the terrors of the future. - Collected sayings of Muad'Dib

by buddyball on Jul 26, 2008 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

you won't like this, but until now I had both Franklin and Rivera on my team

I needed saves

The concept of progress acts as a protective mechanism to shield us from the terrors of the future. - Collected sayings of Muad'Dib

by buddyball on Jul 26, 2008 10:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah....i traded okajima for franklin about a month ago

so i do have one cardinal…..but he may not last long pitching like this

by Fernando Vina School of Linguistics on Jul 26, 2008 10:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

translation - "I love fantasy baseball and those who play it"

The concept of progress acts as a protective mechanism to shield us from the terrors of the future. - Collected sayings of Muad'Dib

by buddyball on Jul 26, 2008 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

how about crappy bunts?

The concept of progress acts as a protective mechanism to shield us from the terrors of the future. - Collected sayings of Muad'Dib

by buddyball on Jul 26, 2008 10:37 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

a swinging bunt?

The concept of progress acts as a protective mechanism to shield us from the terrors of the future. - Collected sayings of Muad'Dib

by buddyball on Jul 26, 2008 10:39 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

crappy hit - good hustle by Grudz

The concept of progress acts as a protective mechanism to shield us from the terrors of the future. - Collected sayings of Muad'Dib

by buddyball on Jul 26, 2008 10:41 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

crap

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by buddyball on Jul 26, 2008 10:42 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

ughhh

winning records follow good bullpens

by slayor on Jul 26, 2008 10:42 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I think he needs to rest his groins some more

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by buddyball on Jul 26, 2008 10:43 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

If anybody should of been bunting it was grudz

Now we are going to lose.

winning records follow good bullpens

by slayor on Jul 26, 2008 10:43 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

bunt = runners at second and third

and keeps Hosey from being able to hit into the DP

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by buddyball on Jul 26, 2008 10:46 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

poof

One man with courage makes a majority - Andrew Jackson

by Home Run Tony Cogan on Jul 26, 2008 10:48 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

aaaaarrrrrggggghhhhh - Ryan the jinxster!!!

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by buddyball on Jul 26, 2008 10:48 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

"Horatio Ramirez has three perfect innings"

“oh wait, 2 and two thirds” – thanks Ryan

The concept of progress acts as a protective mechanism to shield us from the terrors of the future. - Collected sayings of Muad'Dib

by buddyball on Jul 26, 2008 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Its official Jose Guillen = Anti-Mike Aviles

Seriously these guys are about as far apart as two players can get:
one quiet the other loud
one making league minimum the other making the most on the team
One producing one not
One getting out of his slumps quick, the other not
One wasn’t supposed to be on the team, the other was supposed to carry it.
One HAS carried the team, the other should’nt be on it…
One is lucky, the other isn’t.

Jose = Anti-lanche

I refuse to set up a signature....DAMMIT

by RoyalPug on Jul 26, 2008 10:48 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

goddamit what the fuck

winning records follow good bullpens

by slayor on Jul 26, 2008 10:55 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

take Guillen out now!

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by buddyball on Jul 26, 2008 10:55 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Nice play Jose

Juan Gone’s long lost brother has been found

by BHWick on Jul 26, 2008 10:55 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

this game is on guillen if we lose

winning records follow good bullpens

by slayor on Jul 26, 2008 10:56 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

That's not all Guillen's fault........he was playing no-doubles.......

our defensive alignment there was alllllllllll jacked up…..outfield insanely deep….infield shift

by Fernando Vina School of Linguistics on Jul 26, 2008 10:57 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

there's another out we have given them - great defense outfield!

The concept of progress acts as a protective mechanism to shield us from the terrors of the future. - Collected sayings of Muad'Dib

by buddyball on Jul 26, 2008 10:57 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

what the FUCKKKKKK

winning records follow good bullpens

by slayor on Jul 26, 2008 10:57 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

he was not running hard to the ball

The concept of progress acts as a protective mechanism to shield us from the terrors of the future. - Collected sayings of Muad'Dib

by buddyball on Jul 26, 2008 10:57 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Sigh.

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on Jul 26, 2008 10:57 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

i'm done with this game

winning records follow good bullpens

by slayor on Jul 26, 2008 10:58 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Dave Owen can't handle a bullpen either.

Although this begs the question: how much input does McClure have on the decision to yank a guy?

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on Jul 26, 2008 10:58 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Why is Maier on the bench, if Guillen can't run?

For that matter then, why not DH Jose and play Butler at 1st?

or does that make too much sense?

I refuse to set up a signature....DAMMIT

by RoyalPug on Jul 26, 2008 10:58 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Gload's 39 game streak must continue

only 2594 games left until Gload breaks Ripken’s record

by BHWick on Jul 26, 2008 11:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

the sad thing is that if they lose

Ho-Ram gets saddled with a loss where the defense gave the Rays two extra outs by crappy outfield play.

The concept of progress acts as a protective mechanism to shield us from the terrors of the future. - Collected sayings of Muad'Dib

by buddyball on Jul 26, 2008 11:00 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

And Grudz

had 456363 doubles in one game, but is the goat

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on Jul 26, 2008 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'd say COSTA NOW!

But we already have Maier up.

meh

COSTA NOW!

I refuse to set up a signature....DAMMIT

by RoyalPug on Jul 26, 2008 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

(Although, having said that, I sure wish we’d gotten Hunter anyway.)

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on Jul 26, 2008 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Butler showing unusual veteran savvy...

And not clogging the bases

I refuse to set up a signature....DAMMIT

by RoyalPug on Jul 26, 2008 11:04 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Poor Billy

You can just see what’s in his mind: “Man, I don’t get it, I totally kill AAA pitching.”

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on Jul 26, 2008 11:04 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

By the way

Really, that was the best relief outing we’ve had all year. Grudz catches that ball… 3 perfect innings? Unpossible.

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on Jul 26, 2008 11:06 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

That was a wall play

really, German had it, he just doesn’t have a lot of experience with running into walls. Maybe he should try turning as he comes into the wall, so he hits the wall with his back.

by BHWick on Jul 26, 2008 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

WHAT?

You can’t use RamRam for four hitters?

AAAAARRRRGGGHHH

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on Jul 26, 2008 11:09 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Oh, look

Jo-El gave up a homer.

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on Jul 26, 2008 11:10 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

wow... good job peralta

You walk into guitar center and you see all the fuckin stupid shit, you pick up the right instrument and mwahhhh!!!

by teahen24 on Jul 26, 2008 11:11 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Tony or Neal?

The concept of progress acts as a protective mechanism to shield us from the terrors of the future. - Collected sayings of Muad'Dib

by buddyball on Jul 26, 2008 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh, look

a two-out walk by a Royal reliever

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on Jul 26, 2008 11:17 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

sub batting .220 - better walk this guy.....

The concept of progress acts as a protective mechanism to shield us from the terrors of the future. - Collected sayings of Muad'Dib

by buddyball on Jul 26, 2008 11:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good news............guess who leads off the 9th?

ROSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS GLOOOOOOOOOOOOOADDDDDDDD

my main man.

by Fernando Vina School of Linguistics on Jul 26, 2008 11:18 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

he can hit a 4 fun homer and get us out of here!!!!!!!

The concept of progress acts as a protective mechanism to shield us from the terrors of the future. - Collected sayings of Muad'Dib

by buddyball on Jul 26, 2008 11:18 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Yeah right

he’s going to hit into a double play.

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on Jul 26, 2008 11:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

*4 run (not fun)

The concept of progress acts as a protective mechanism to shield us from the terrors of the future. - Collected sayings of Muad'Dib

by buddyball on Jul 26, 2008 11:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Damnit

Now he’s guaranteed to start through mid-September

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on Jul 26, 2008 11:22 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

well, if he can consistently hit like this

i wouldn’t mind if he played all the time.

The concept of progress acts as a protective mechanism to shield us from the terrors of the future. - Collected sayings of Muad'Dib

by buddyball on Jul 26, 2008 11:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree, but.

You know that’s silly.

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on Jul 26, 2008 11:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

a boy can dream...

The concept of progress acts as a protective mechanism to shield us from the terrors of the future. - Collected sayings of Muad'Dib

by buddyball on Jul 26, 2008 11:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

"If only

Angelina Jolie would show up at my door naked…”

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on Jul 26, 2008 11:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

with a six pack of Boulevard Wheat...

The concept of progress acts as a protective mechanism to shield us from the terrors of the future. - Collected sayings of Muad'Dib

by buddyball on Jul 26, 2008 11:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

9th inning prediction

Guillen makes the third out with runners in scoring position

by BHWick on Jul 26, 2008 11:22 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Your prediction may come to pass

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on Jul 26, 2008 11:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

or not

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on Jul 26, 2008 11:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

professional at bat there

I have no idea what that means, but I like it

The concept of progress acts as a protective mechanism to shield us from the terrors of the future. - Collected sayings of Muad'Dib

by buddyball on Jul 26, 2008 11:25 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

oof - that was a let down

The concept of progress acts as a protective mechanism to shield us from the terrors of the future. - Collected sayings of Muad'Dib

by buddyball on Jul 26, 2008 11:34 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Guillen time tonight

leaving four runners on in scoring position.. the $12M Man is the difference maker!

by BHWick on Jul 26, 2008 11:34 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

33 days to be exact...

Almost as long as Gload has made consecutive starts….Coincidence? you decide!

I refuse to set up a signature....DAMMIT

by RoyalPug on Jul 26, 2008 11:53 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Emerson Drive

I still haven’t figured out who the hell they are

by BHWick on Jul 26, 2008 11:41 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

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