All-Star Team of Royals (drafted since 1996)
In the spirit of what kcisbetterthanstlateverything and royalsretro have done, I have compiled an All-Star team of players that have been drafted and signed by the Royals from 1996-present. Spending time with KC is the last qualification to gain eligibility for the team.
I have included some statistics from each player. These are the stats that players accumulated during their tenure as Kansas City players. I have included a new statistic for each player called WPA (win probability added). This statistic is compiled by fangraphs.com. WPA is the difference in win expectancy between the start of the play and the end of the play. That difference is then credited/debited to the batter and the pitcher. Over the course of the season, each players’ WPA for individual plays is added up to get his season total WPA. A negative WPA means a player consistently helped his team lose.
Starting Pitchers
1. Zach Greinke (92 GS, 589.1 IP, 28-42 W-L, 4.51 ERA) (33.2 WS) (3.71 WPA)
2. Jeremy Affeldt (42 GS, 399.2 IP, 17-22 W-L, 4.77 ERA) (-1.45 WPA)
3. Jimmy Gobble (43 GS, 416.2 IP, 22-23 W-L, 5.31 ERA) (-1.45 WPA)
4. Dan Reichert (51 GS, 379 IP, 21-25 W-L, 5.53 ERA) (-2.30 WPA)
5. Kris Wilson (19 GS, 235 IP, 14-9 W-L, 5.32 ERA) (-1.61 WPA)
Greinke leads the staff in several categories including GS, IP, ERA, W and WPA. He is one of two current Royals on the list. Notice the similarities between Affeldt and Gobble. Which one had the better attitude between these two lefties? I had all but forgotten about the Royals career of Kris Wilson, but then I remembered, he helped KC in their 2003 playoff run. Overall, one must admit that the list of Royals All-Star pitchers is pretty impressive. The fact that each pitcher’s (except Greinke) starting career was over by the time they left the Royals only adds to the credibility of these pros. It is a bit upsetting that Greinke has been the only drafted starter that has achieved a positive WPA in his tenure as a Royal, but don’t forget that he still has time to turn his WPA into a negative number. Overall, these starting pitchers had a record of 102 wins and 121 losses while their combined ERA was pretty good as well. This list of top starting pitchers might be the biggest reason for the Royals success over the last decade.
Position Players
C- Paul Phillips (157 PA, 2 HR, 16 RBI, .258 AVG) (-0.90 WPA)
1B- Jeremy Giambi (406 PA, 5 HR, 42 RBI, .276 AVG) (-1.07 WPA)
2B- Ruben Gotay (483 PA, 6 HR, 45 RBI, .242 AVG) (-2.82 WPA)
3B- Alex Gordon (1033 PA, 26 HR, 105 RBI, .248 AVG) (-2.08 WPA)
SS- Mike Aviles (183 PA, 4 HR, 25 RBI, .305 AVG) (1.00 WPA)
LF- Dee Brown (811 PA, 14 HR, 89 RBI, .234 AVG) (-4.90 WPA)
CF- David DeJesus (2268 PA, 41 HR, 263 RBI, .285 AVG) (3.93 WPA)
RF- Shane Costa- (449 PA, 5 HR, 42 RBI, .254 AVG) (-2.16 WPA)
DH- Billy Butler (646 PA, 13 HR, 81 RBI, .275 AVG) (-0.41 WPA)
It’s probably best to remind us that as Beltran, Sweeney, and Damon were slugging away during the late 90s, the Royals were busily replenishing their stock of young sluggers. Clearly, this trend has continued through the present. What else could possibly explain our 2nd worst offense in the league? It’s somewhat upsetting that our starting RF on this All-Star team is spending the year in the minor leagues, but when you consider the offensive prowess of the current Royals, it is certainly understandable. It was difficult to choose the starting catcher, but I feel that Paul Phillips edges out both Matt Tupman and Mike Tonis. With the emergence of Mike Aviles this year (thanks to the plummeting performance of undrafted Braves farmhand Tony Pena Jr.), I was spared the pleasure of choosing Angel Sanchez for the team. I apologize to any Brandon Berger fans that feel he should have made the team, but with the strength of the Royals drafts since 1996, there just wasn’t enough room for him on the team. Since no All-Star team is complete without a slugging first baseman, I felt compelled to choose Jeremy Giambi for the starting position, edging out the likes of . . . . well . . . . . um . . . . . nobody. I think it safe to say that Dee Brown revolutionized the way major league outfielders are defined (enough said). Sadly, only Aviles and DeJesus are the only team members that have a positive WPA in their Royal careers. With All-Stars on the current Royals team like Aviles, DeJesus, Gordon, and Butler, it is not surprising that the Royals are having such a great offensive year in 2008. This list of position players might be the second most convincing explanation for the success of the Royals franchise.
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That is truly a team for the ages.
One pitcher and two hitters since 1996 have had a positive impact. So maybe only offering $1,000 bonuses after the third round for all those years was a bad idea? Huh. Who would have guessed that.
by djk royal on Jul 27, 2008 9:42 AM EDT 0 recs
Not exaggerating there at all, huh?
You know the only time that really happened was ‘03, when picks 5-9 were signed for $1k? And guess what…two of those picks made it (Braun and Aviles) to the show.
Not the reason.
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by doublestix on
Jul 27, 2008 6:47 PM EDT
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Mac the Ninth and Ambiorix
I imagine
Chaim Mattis Keller New York City's # 1 Royals fan!
by cmkeller on
Jul 27, 2008 11:48 AM EDT
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Top 7 of the Bullpen
Mike MacDougal (171 IP, 49 SV)
Ryan Bukvich (42.2 IP, 1 SV, 6.54 ERA)
Jeremy Hill (10.1 IP, 3.41)
Scott Mullen (64.2 IP, 4.45 ERA)
Tony Cogan (24.2 IP, 5.84 ERA)
Jonah Bayliss (11.2 IP, 4.63 ERA)
Ryan Braun (50 IP, 6.66 ERA)
I only had to cut one eligible player, Jason Gilfillan.
Ambiorix Burgos doesn’t make the list because he was signed as a free agent. He would’ve boosted the credibility of the team though
by potsy on Jul 27, 2008 12:15 PM EDT 0 recs
That's impressive.
Why haven’t we won it all yet?
by lordbyronk on
Jul 27, 2008 1:55 PM EDT
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Needs more JP Howell.
Longlorious.
Free Kila Kaaihue!
by RATW on
Jul 27, 2008 10:50 PM EDT
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It's funny,
I was looking up #2 overall picks on BP and noticed that the Twins had a couple recently:
Travis Lee, who was somewhat unspectacular, in 1996, and Adam Johnson, who hasn’t done anything, in 2000. Notice that there hasn’t been too much of an outcry b/c those two didn’t really work out, while so much of our near-term success rides on Gordon. I think this just reinforces the fact that our farm system has been absolutely barren for some time, that we’re so dependent on a couple of players to pan out. I think it’s going to take some time to get out of the current mess that we’re in.
One man with courage makes a majority - Andrew Jackson
by Home Run Tony Cogan on Jul 27, 2008 10:38 PM EDT 0 recs
Yup...
and it’ll be that way until our farm system gets healthy again. You are only as strong as your base most years in baseball. Our base is our potent farm system. But like I’ve said before, the best thing we could have done was add another low A spot so we have more competition to move up ONE level to the Bees. That will create a bottleneck so that players have to earn their way to the Bees, Blue Rocks, Naturals, and the O-Royals. It’s a work in progress. Strengthen the base, strengthen the team.
by 306008 on
Jul 28, 2008 12:54 PM EDT
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I think your interpretation
of our dependence of Gordon is a little wrong. It’s not so much a reflection of the barenness of our Minor League system (which I’ll admit isn’t great), it’s an expectation based on his great college career and his draft position, which everyone agreed was appropriate (unlike, say, Luke Hochevar, who we picked # 1 when may said we should have taken Price or Lincecum. EVERYONE said Alex Gordon was the second-best player in his draft class). That was the highest draft position we ever had to that date, and if he doesn’t pan out, it’s a big thing to have wasted.
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by cmkeller on
Jul 28, 2008 3:34 PM EDT
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On the other hand
When everyone on the planet agreed he was the #2 pick, if he doesn’t pan out all you can do is shrug your shoulders and say “that’s the draft for you.” I certainly don’t think the organization can be blamed for taking the right guy in the right spot, and at a certain level of talent, the organization’s ability to instruct the player becomes minimized.
Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.
by jonfmorse on
Jul 28, 2008 4:58 PM EDT
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Of course you can't blame
the Royals for taking him, even if he turns out to be a bust. I’m just making the point that the dependency of the Royals’ future on Gordon is reflective of the price paid for him due to high expectations.
Chaim Mattis Keller New York City's # 1 Royals fan!
by cmkeller on
Jul 28, 2008 9:49 PM EDT
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Apropos of nothing
I flipped over to see where Brett had been drafted (2nd round, 1971), and was absolutely stunned to discover that the very next pick was Mike Schmidt. How often you think that happens?
Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.
by jonfmorse on
Jul 28, 2008 5:01 PM EDT
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That's true
It will be a big waste if he doesn’t pan out, and I wasn’t trying to imply that we shouldn’t have taken him. I do think that the amount of time spent dissecting his performance to date would decrease significantly if we had a lot of other pieces and/or we were contending. The expectations would probably still be there, but maybe people wouldn’t be so upset if we had other studs that were carrying the team.
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by Home Run Tony Cogan on
Jul 28, 2008 11:15 PM EDT
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"maybe people wouldn’t be so upset if we had other studs that were carrying the team."
This. The “problem” with Gordon is that he’s a 24-year-old kid and everyone seems to expect him to carry the team already. We shouldn’t be expecting that for at least a couple more years under any reasonable expectation. You don’t carry a team before your peak unless you’re a serious HOF talent right out of the carton. Gordon wasn’t projected as a HOFer, he was projected as an all-star.
Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.
by jonfmorse on
Jul 29, 2008 3:40 AM EDT
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That's really debatable...
“Gordon wasn’t projected as a HOFer, he was projected as an all-star.”
I’m guessing there WERE people who thought he was a HOF talent. Heck maybe he still is (doubt it now), but I know for one John Sickels thought he’d basically be a Mike Schmidt clone.
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by doublestix on
Jul 29, 2008 3:52 AM EDT
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I remember BA and BP talking about Gordon (before he got to the majors) as a future All-Star who might contend for some MVP titles
I don’t recall them throwing the HOF around.
This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.
by NYRoyal on
Jul 29, 2008 4:03 AM EDT
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Sickels once
Posted his career projection. It was just for fun, but it had HOF numbers.
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by RoyalsRetro on
Jul 29, 2008 10:16 AM EDT
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I know he never played for the Royals
But Mark Ellis warrants mentioning, a 1999 draft pick.
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by RoyalsRetro on Jul 28, 2008 9:40 AM EDT 0 recs
another sad fact
It’s sad that Ellis is the only farmhand that has made it with another team. We can’t really look back at a minor league player that we traded away and say, “man I wish we still had him.” The exception of course might be Ellis.
by potsy on
Jul 28, 2008 7:12 PM EDT
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Kiko Calero made it
1996 draftee. He languished in our system for years before St. Louis finally signed him as a minor league FA. 3B Joe Dillon is also a fringe big leaguer, drafted by the Royals in ‘97.
Kinda interesting to see guys we drafted since 1996, but failed to sign, who have reached the big leagues:
P Matt Guerrier
P Ryan Rupe
P Jason Simontacci
P Jason Anderson
P Chris Sampson
P Brandon Medders
P Adam Peterson
P Taylor Tankersley
Those were some pretty awful drafts.
Relive Royals History at royalsretro.blogspot.com
by RoyalsRetro on
Jul 28, 2008 10:14 PM EDT
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wow....even the guys we dont sign suck
TPJ...you're dead to me
by billybeingbilly on
Jul 29, 2008 12:57 AM EDT
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does Luke H. have too little time in the bigs to qualify?
he has to be better than Kris Wilson
The concept of progress acts as a protective mechanism to shield us from the terrors of the future. - Collected sayings of Muad'Dib
by buddyball on Jul 28, 2008 4:25 PM EDT 0 recs
it's close
Currently, you have to admit Wilson had better lifetime statistics than what Hochevar currently has (barely).
Wilson had a slightly better ERA+ than what Hochevar has. He also has more wins, IP, K, K/BB, and K/9.
I’m of course hopeful that Hochevar will surpass Wison, but the scary part is that we’re having this discussion at all.
by potsy on
Jul 28, 2008 7:10 PM EDT
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