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July 2nd International Signings Top Secret

Apparently, if you leak the word onto the internet concerning which international players we've signed, Dayton Moore will send a sniper from the cast of "24" to your house and have you assassinated.  The Royals apparently did sign someone yesterday, although this is only a theory.  News of who we signed isn't terribly important though, considering that the ceiling for such players is, um, Vlad Guerrero.  I did see one fan with inside info (eazyb81) mentioned a name yesterday; I googled the name and found nothing.  Eazyb81 is probably dead now. 

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We signed

A gritty slick defensive first baseman named Diego Mientkiewicz.

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by RoyalsRetro on Jul 3, 2008 1:39 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

...from Argentina?

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on Jul 3, 2008 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Que Lastima!

Yo oigo que él es el peor! Este equipo nunca ganará un otro juego! Me disparas muerte ahora!

4th place 08 baby! Baby steps (Thanks, Jose Guillen!) is the name of the game.

by loyal2theroyals on Jul 3, 2008 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yo se

es lo que hace.

4th place 08 baby! Baby steps (Thanks, Jose Guillen!) is the name of the game.

by loyal2theroyals on Jul 3, 2008 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Meanwhile, San Diego has a press conference

about how many awesome future Vlad Guerrero’s they just signed. Where’s our press conference?

DM: tap, tap tap “Um, is this thing on?”
Lone Reporter: “I heard San Diego just spent $8 million-or about one game’s worth of hot dog sales-on young Latin American 5-tool players. How much did the Royals spend this year?
DM: “We bought a hot dog for some kid out of Venezuela, and he promised to come play for us. He’s either a skinny, smooth-fielding guy with a lifetime average of around .150 or else he’s incredibly fast, I can’t remember.”
Lone Reporter: “So he’s fast. Can he do anything else, like hit?”
DM: “He’s incredibly fast.”
LR: “Sweet.”

I follow the Tao of Steve (Balboni)

by jackie ballgame on Jul 3, 2008 2:19 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

I realize this is satire

But is there genuine criticism behind this satire?

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Jul 3, 2008 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

a skinny, smooth-fielding guy with a lifetime average of around .150

That sounds like it would be TPJ 2.0. I want my hotdog back.

by djk royal on Jul 3, 2008 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It also

Sounds like many of our LA signings in the last few years. The Domincan Leagues always look like pitchers’ leagues, but that may simply because the prototypical young Dominican player is slick-fielding and fast with little pop.

Sometimes you just gotta roll the potato.

by CentralChamps2009 on Jul 3, 2008 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Latin America is not known for giving rise to a lot of sluggers

There have been some, but they represent a very small percentage of L.A. players.

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Jul 3, 2008 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

if you think the L.A. players are not sluggers,

wait to you see Dayton’s new player acquistion venture:

MUNCHKINS!

They can be signed cheaply, and they will work for chocolate (supplied by Wal-Mart).

by loyal2sdad on Jul 3, 2008 5:26 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Oops!

mixing up my MUNCHKINS with my OOMPAH LOOMPAHS

by loyal2sdad on Jul 3, 2008 5:26 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Munchkins and Oompah Loompahs

...would both be good at drawing walks. Small strike zone.

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Jul 3, 2008 5:32 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

How long do ryan and criticize davey for that misplay?....

10 mins?

wait…he’s not jose guillen

TPJ...you're dead to me

by billybeingbilly on Jul 3, 2008 8:14 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Consider yourself on triple secret probation for a wrong thread violation

Clean up your act.

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Jul 3, 2008 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

No delete feature for us

Just like Royals fans should have high standards for their team, we have such high standards here at royalsreview.com that mistakes must be prevented, not deleted after the fact. That’s why I never make mistakes.

[I hope I piled it on there enough to make it clear this is ultra-sarcasm]

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Jul 4, 2008 1:19 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

NYRoyal

gets his blog etiquette advice from David Glass apparently ;)

4th place 08 baby! Baby steps (Thanks, Jose Guillen!) is the name of the game.

by loyal2theroyals on Jul 4, 2008 12:56 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

You're on my list too now!

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Jul 4, 2008 1:17 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

but for real NYroyal....

when do you think we’ll hear about these signings?....this year at all or next springish?

TPJ...you're dead to me

by billybeingbilly on Jul 4, 2008 1:01 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

No idea

Some of them you hear about right away. Some you don’t hear about for months.

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Jul 4, 2008 1:18 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

probably a solid assumption that its similar to last year?

a handful of guys signing for signifcant money, but likely none that close to 7 figures?

TPJ...you're dead to me

by billybeingbilly on Jul 4, 2008 1:33 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't know if we can necessarily assume that, but I think it is a fair prediction

First, there might be a handful of guys we sign for significant money, or there might be a lot of guys we sign for significant money. Glass and Moore have shown a willingness to spend a lot of money on the draft, FA’s and int’l FA’s over the last two years, and I’m pretty sure the MLB payroll went under budget this year. Second, I don’t know if any will be close to 7 figures, but as I’ve said on this site many times, I think signing 8 guys for $250K is a much better strategy than signing 1 guy for $2M. These teenagers are too speculative to put must of your eggs in one basket.

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Jul 4, 2008 1:57 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

One signing done!

OF Jerico Blanco, Venezuela (Caracas) – $260,000 bonus

Looking for info.

Rowdy Hardy Fan Club member.

by doublestix on Jul 4, 2008 1:48 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Translated from spanish article...

The White Jericho that could become a pelotero of the characteristics of Bob Abreu was everything the Kansas City Royals needed to listen to the professional signature for $ 260,000.

“We can say that he is a young man who has all five tools,” said Juan Carlos Indriago one of the monarchs of the talent scout who discovered the young caraqueño 16 years. “You can run, and his arm are in the batting average and grows will develop strength.”

“I’m very excited,” said White, who also signed with the Lions of Caracas. “I hope to reach Major League Baseball in four years.”

So in other words, he’s a “toolsy” young outfielder with speed now, with a frame that could develop power later. Which is not a bad thing. Get enough players with “tools” in your organization and one or two is bound to pan out.

Anyways, four years? I hope so. That would mean he’d be REALLY good.

Rowdy Hardy Fan Club member.

by doublestix on Jul 4, 2008 1:56 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

And, as you know, when you're signing 16/17-year-olds, tools is all these guys have

When you’re talking about kids like this, no one has polish. All they have is raw tools. So if he’s got 5 good or pretty good tools and a projectable body, that’s about as much as one can possibly ask for from a L.A. FA.

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Jul 4, 2008 1:59 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yep, I do know. :-)

Hopefully we get some more info on this kid in time.

And hopefully we sign some more!

Rowdy Hardy Fan Club member.

by doublestix on Jul 4, 2008 2:21 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

For some reason, I got a feeling from some posts on this site that many people weren't looking forward to Moore signing toolsy Latin American players

Apparently they wanted more polished, major league ready Latin American 16-year-olds.

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Jul 4, 2008 2:32 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Or just "Whitey" for short

It worked for Edward Charles Ford.

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Jul 4, 2008 2:20 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I posted this one yesterday in the other thread

We do have a few more in the fold now.

Founder of the Rowdy Hardy Fan Club

by eazyb81 on Jul 4, 2008 10:28 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Names?

Or is it suscriber info?

Rowdy Hardy Fan Club member.

by doublestix on Jul 4, 2008 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

How long until....

A MLB team (hopefully our Royals) approaches the Amateur draft TOTALLY different.

If I were running a small market team, I’d at least research this possibility….

Use your 1st 2 or 3 picks in the Amateur draft on either HS players or College Jr’s that are going to cost a little more $$ to sign, and potentially have a higher ceiling. I’d then use the next 10-20 picks on ONLY college Seniors that you can sign cheaply, cause they really have no leverage. You could take more than that, but seriously how many college seniors that are taken past the 30th round are worth a damn?

I’d then take all the $$ saved & throw it at all these 16 year old freaks that are down in South America. Yea, it costs $2+ million to get in the same room as anyone that has Vlad or Pedro type ceiling, but is it worth it? HELL YES!!!

by GoBabies!! on Jul 5, 2008 11:08 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

That's interesting

but a huge drawback would be how difficult it is to project 16-year-olds as professional baseball players.

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Jul 5, 2008 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's dumb.

Sorry, but it is.

Never would happen.

A good draft normally has two or three contributors on the MLB roster. You’d be banking on your first couple picks doing just that, or getting lucky with an “Aviles” type.

Rowdy Hardy Fan Club member.

by doublestix on Jul 5, 2008 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

If it's so dumb...

Then why were there a half a dozen teams offering $2 million + for a 16 year old pitcher this year. Oh yea, the 1/2 a dozen teams were all perennial contenders, see list below…

http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/prospects/international-affairs/2008/266316.html

To quote…

Sources have told Baseball America of at least eight players who are expected to collect signing bonuses of at least $1 million. Last year, three players received $1 million or more: Red Sox third baseman Michael Almanzar ($1.5 million), Yankees outfielder Kelvin De Leon ($1.1 million) and Mariners shortstop Jharmidy DeJesus ($1 million).
Some international scouts say some teams are spending their money simply to make a statement. Others see it as teams reevaluating the value of international players, who still are generally cheaper than drafted players. And like all homegrown talent, these players can be cost-controlled for their first three years of service time, followed by three seasons at below-market value in their arbitration years.

“Teams who have not had much success in Latin America can point to teams like the Rockies and Arizona,” said one international scout. “Teams going to the playoffs are the ones signing Latin American guys who go to the major leagues. But they don’t spend that much money—it comes down to scouting and how you allocate the money. You see all these teams now, they have done nothing in Latin America and they’re saying they have to do something about it.”

The teams showing more interest in big-money international signings this year than in the recent past include the Reds, Athletics, Padres, Astros, Cardinals and Indians, with the Padres strongly linked to at least three players who could sign for seven-figure bonuses. In the weeks leading up to July 2, Baseball America will give subscribers more insight on some of the players expected to command the highest bonuses.
Arguably the market's top talent is righthander Michel (not Michael, as first reported) Inoa, a 6-foot-7, 205-pound righthander from Puerto Plata in the Dominican Republic. Inoa's fastball works at 91-94 mph, and scouts see even more projection with his size, athletic bloodlines, fluid arm action and easy mechanics.

Several teams have been linked to Inoa already, including international heavyweights such as the Yankees, Red Sox, Mets and Mariners, while the Athletics have also popped up as a serious contender. Sources have indicated that Inoa will receive a bonus in excess of $2.5 million, and one international scout said agent Adam Katz of Wasserman Media Group, who represents Inoa, is “starting the bidding” at $3.5 million.

While the A’s have never been big spenders on the international front, new money in the international market is shaping up to be one of the themes of this year’s signing period. Oakland made its mark in Latin America in early February, when the club signed 17-year-old outfielder Robin Rosario for $350,000, a franchise record for a bonus spent on an international player.

The Indians could also leave a large footprint on this year’s international signing class, though one formerly hot name who had been linked to them seems to have lost much of his luster. Several international sources have said the Indians had agreed with Dominican shortstop Edward Salcedo for a $2.9 million deal earlier this year, but months later no deal has been announced.

by GoBabies!! on Jul 5, 2008 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

And for what it's worth...

I’d rather take my chance on a 16 year old kid that probably has never had 1/100th the comforts of life than some college kid from America that wouldn’t have 1/10th the motivation as a latin player.

by GoBabies!! on Jul 5, 2008 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

What about this idea?

How long before a US kid moves to DR, or Cayman, Bermuda, etc. in order to skirt the US draft and sign an FA contract? Would they have to renounce US citizenship in order to do this, have dual citizenship, or just live outside the US? I’m surprised that Borass hasn’t thought of this already. This seems like a huge loophole that someone could exploit in order to go to the team of their choice, as a 16-year old.

Does anyone know the particulars of the rules on what/whom is covered in the Rule 4 draft, other than US, Canada, PR?

One man with courage makes a majority - Andrew Jackson

by Home Run Tony Cogan on Jul 5, 2008 2:35 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Some Cubans have done that

In the past I believe. I think they had to stay in the host country for a year before becoming eligible, going from memory.

by GoBabies!! on Jul 5, 2008 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

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