Trading Deadline Extravganza Open Thread
Let's light this candle.
Although it almost always lets us down, is there any single day better than Trade Deadline Day? Sure, as fans of a seemingly permanently bad team, our annual festival of intrigue borders on something of a death-wish, with a trio of high-profile trades (Dye, Damon, Beltran) really defining the franchise over the last fifteen years. Still as Shane Costa once wrote, "u never know". Remember, for like an eighteen month period, Angel Berroa looked like a steal.
Until, or unless something major breaks, consider this your catch-all thread for everything. I'll be adding links as they come in throughout the day. If we happen to find out that some random minor leaguer is now a proud member of this fine organization, feel free to post relevant information/analysis/opinion as well. As a rule of thumb, remember that fanshots should be used for something to share, while fanposts work best if you have something to say.
Finally, not that you asked, but here's my Official Royals Review Trade Deadline Prediction Proclamation: Mahay, Grudzielanek and one stunner/out-of-nowhere guy (i.e. not Olivo) get shipped. Yes, I'm making a very meek version of a purportedly bold statement. Unfortunately, unless you've bought like 10 Royals Review Shirts, you have no right to complain.
- The Cubs are interested in David DeJesus. Aside from the fact that a DDJ swap seems about 98% unlikely, this would certainly be a bold move by Dayton. Maybe for Pie this would be cool, but Lord help us if this goes down. That being said, the Royals aren't in a position where they can play it safe and succeed. At some point, a major risk or two is going to have to pay off for the Royals to become a 90 win team.
- Rosenthal is up late posting updates.
- Grudz to the Twins? Can we get Aaron Gleeman in return?
- Late last night I passed along the Mahay to Boston for Brandon Moss rumor. You mean Dayton isn't interested in Adam Stern?
- Dutton reports on the mental state of Mahay and Grudz. Our days of seeing Mahay's piercing blue eyes in huge pixolated pictures on the Star website may be coming to a close.
- Supposedly the White Sox aren't gonna do anything, which either means we've been denied a reprise of the MacDougal and Sisco trades, or the Gload one, depending on your temperament. Or were those the same deal?
- With Will Ohman supposedly the hot lefty on the market, will Dayton be able to resist the Oh-Man's seductive Brave lineage?
- Not really a rumor, but you gotta love the Astros. The folks at Crawfish Boxes seem to have a good attitude towards things.
- Jeff at Lookout Landing, one of my blogging heroes, calls the Marlins "crazy" for wanting to do this purported Manny deal.
- According to SI's Jon Heyman people actually do want Adam Dunn. Don't they know that he's a loser who strikes out and hates baseball? Home runs and walks lose games. Its been proven. You win with guys like David Eckstein. Period.
- Today is the perfect opportunity for DePodesta to announce a trade on his blog isn't it? That would have to be some kind of weird, completely unimportant landmark. Considering how much the media has screwed that guy, I'd love to see Slightly Dangerous deny everyone the precious "break" privilege.
- Jerry Crasnick looks back at some big deals that turned out differently than expected. His number one entry is the Colon/Sizemore-Lee-Phillips trade. The funny thing is, everyone I read at the time seemed to think that trade was exactly what it became: borderline irresponsibility on Minaya's part. But hey, it was part of a decade's long plot to destroy baseball in Montreal and find the next wave of tax monies, so its all worked out. And thanks to the Nationals and their mallpark, everyone in D.C. is like a millionaire now, or something.
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This is gonna be a wild Deadline Day!
...ok, probably not.
This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.
by NYRoyal on Jul 31, 2008 2:14 AM EDT 0 recs
didnt we do all this with manny two years ago?
some things never change
by royalsreview on
Jul 31, 2008 2:22 AM EDT
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But I do appreciate the bold prediction
This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.
by NYRoyal on Jul 31, 2008 2:17 AM EDT 0 recs
Florida would be making a big mistake if they trade for Manny.
They already lead the NL in slugging, home runs and they were fourth in runs scored going into Wednesday night. Their biggest problem is defense. So why on earth would they trade for a malcontent and a rent-a-player who will hurt their defense and maybe add a few more home runs? It would be a horrible trade for Florida. They need pitching and defense.
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Oh, and I predict Gload will be exploding somewhere else Friday night.
Banny being Banny.
by JobDDT on Jul 31, 2008 2:22 AM EDT 0 recs
They still have a deep farm system i think it would be a great move..
Yasuhiko Yabuta is to Major League Baseball as Drew Carey is to The Price is Right
by focs on
Jul 31, 2008 2:28 AM EDT
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If Moore trades Gload
I’m going to fly to KC and give him a big, sloppy kiss on the lips. Unfortunately, I fear Moore’s lips will go unkissed. :(
This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.
by NYRoyal on
Jul 31, 2008 2:30 AM EDT
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That's what she said
She would do anything (or anyone) for Justin
OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG
by devil_fingers on
Jul 31, 2008 2:33 AM EDT
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In a heartbeat
Because Moore and Hillman wouldn’t overexpose his Gload-like hitting.
This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.
by NYRoyal on
Jul 31, 2008 2:34 AM EDT
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Zack greinke has been getting interest from Texas
Zack Greinke for Chris Davis… Would you do it ? i Would
He has 74 homers in the minors in his first 3 years and is in the bigs already with 10 homers in 103 AB’s
Yasuhiko Yabuta is to Major League Baseball as Drew Carey is to The Price is Right
by focs on Jul 31, 2008 2:31 AM EDT 0 recs
No. Greinke must be signed long-term.
Banny being Banny.
by JobDDT on
Jul 31, 2008 2:32 AM EDT
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Trade an established great young pitcher for a prospect?
More than a few minor league phenoms have flopped in the majors. Greinke is a minor league phenom who has finally succeeded in the majors. That wouldn’t be a fair or equal trade. And it would take the organization backwards a step.
This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.
by NYRoyal on
Jul 31, 2008 2:36 AM EDT
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Eh. i wouldnt say by any means greinke has succeded yet.. he has shown great flashes though
Yasuhiko Yabuta is to Major League Baseball as Drew Carey is to The Price is Right
by focs on
Jul 31, 2008 2:37 AM EDT
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He's had much more major league success than Chris Davis
And that is the point. That is why such a trade wouldn’t be close to fair or equal.
This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.
by NYRoyal on
Jul 31, 2008 2:38 AM EDT
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add grudzielanek and kinsler then ?
Yasuhiko Yabuta is to Major League Baseball as Drew Carey is to The Price is Right
by focs on
Jul 31, 2008 2:40 AM EDT
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Rangers won't deal Kinsler
Rowdy Hardy Fan Club member.
by doublestix on
Jul 31, 2008 2:40 AM EDT
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He hasn't succeeded?
Greinke’s numbers right now have him as either a weak #1 or a great #2. And that means he hasn’t succeeded?
A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.
by NHZ on
Jul 31, 2008 9:41 AM EDT
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Texas was told Zack was unavailable
Rowdy Hardy Fan Club member.
by doublestix on
Jul 31, 2008 2:40 AM EDT
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He more than likely is..
no one is unavailable though.. some just require an offer that cant be refused
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by focs on
Jul 31, 2008 2:41 AM EDT
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It would take a huge, massive haul for anyone to take Greinke from us
And I don’t think anyone will give up that much. He’s just worth too much to the Royals.
This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.
by NYRoyal on
Jul 31, 2008 2:45 AM EDT
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Why would the Royals trade Greinke?
He is the type of guy KC is trying to keep and build around. First round pick, product of the farm system, ace potential and young. Instead, KC fans are looking to trade him for prospects who if we follow the Royals track record, won’t pan out. Greinke would be the next in the line of guys we develop and trade like Beltran, Damon, etc.
Can’t believe that DM would even consider trading Greinke even for a massive haul. And to the Rangers – ugghhh!!!
by daveyork on
Jul 31, 2008 1:29 PM EDT
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the only way i'd accept it is...feliz, davis + one of the catchers..
ramirez, teagarden, or salty
TPJ...you're dead to me
by billybeingbilly on
Jul 31, 2008 3:16 AM EDT
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Kila Now!
Call him up and get rid of gload
Yasuhiko Yabuta is to Major League Baseball as Drew Carey is to The Price is Right
by focs on Jul 31, 2008 2:34 AM EDT 0 recs
At this rate.. we will have an overflow thread by 6 am :D
Yasuhiko Yabuta is to Major League Baseball as Drew Carey is to The Price is Right
by focs on Jul 31, 2008 2:35 AM EDT 0 recs
Bed time I think
We’re not going to get any more info until tomorrow.
I’d be shocked if we actually made a deal to be honest.
Rowdy Hardy Fan Club member.
by doublestix on Jul 31, 2008 2:41 AM EDT 0 recs
Same unfortunately.
Yasuhiko Yabuta is to Major League Baseball as Drew Carey is to The Price is Right
by focs on
Jul 31, 2008 2:41 AM EDT
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Anyone here any news on Hosmer ? Melville?
Yasuhiko Yabuta is to Major League Baseball as Drew Carey is to The Price is Right
by focs on Jul 31, 2008 2:42 AM EDT 0 recs
Nothing new
I don’t think we’ll get any real word on either of them until after Aug. 8. Rumors and reports say Melville is in the bag. I’d be shocked if Hosmer didn’t sign. I think by midnight on Aug. 15, both will officially be Royals.
This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.
by NYRoyal on
Jul 31, 2008 2:46 AM EDT
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i wish they didnt wait this damn long... its annoying
Giavotella is already smacking balls why these guys squeeze out every dollar..
Yasuhiko Yabuta is to Major League Baseball as Drew Carey is to The Price is Right
by focs on
Jul 31, 2008 2:50 AM EDT
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For most players, their signing bonus is the only big payday they ever get
This is true even of first round draftees. It’s important for them to get as much as they can. If I were them, I’d hold out for as much money as possible.
This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.
by NYRoyal on
Jul 31, 2008 2:55 AM EDT
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+1
The future is way too uncertain for athletes. They need to cash in as much and as soon as possible.
Chaim Mattis Keller New York City's # 1 Royals fan!
by cmkeller on
Jul 31, 2008 9:45 AM EDT
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I also read
that even if there is a deal in place, Selig can hold up approval if it is way over slot until most others sign. Don’t know if this is true, but would make sense.
Don't Stop Believing!
by KC Chris on
Jul 31, 2008 10:06 AM EDT
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it is true
some have speculated that might be the case with Melville—that a deal has been in place for weeks, but that the commish has been delaying approval until more players sign.
by DarthYoshi on
Jul 31, 2008 10:13 AM EDT
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Agreed
A few weeks won’t hurt him. Besides, Hosmer is still playing ball, so its not like he’s sitting around getting fat on ice cream.
Relive Royals History at royalsretro.blogspot.com
by RoyalsRetro on
Jul 31, 2008 10:43 AM EDT
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I doubt anyone's still awake
but! I’m officially trying beer. We have boulevard wheat and bud select.
We’ll see how this goes or if I just stick with the bacardi raz.
Listen to the MUSTN'Ts, child Listen to the DON'Ts Listen to the SHOULDN'Ts, The IMPOSSIBLEs, the WON'Ts Listen to the NEVER HAVEs Then listen close to me-- Anything can happen, child, ANYTHING can be --Shel Silverstein
by loyal2theroyals on Jul 31, 2008 2:54 AM EDT 0 recs
how old are you?...i feel like you're my age...and you're just NOW trying beer?
TPJ...you're dead to me
by billybeingbilly on
Jul 31, 2008 3:18 AM EDT
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Loyal2theroyals turned 21 earlier this year
This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.
by NYRoyal on
Jul 31, 2008 3:26 AM EDT
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may 1st!
and billybeingbilly…I hate beer, so this is a big step.
The bud select was DISGUSTING. Currently working on the boulevard. I’ve been pawning off the stuff I don’t like on my guy friend, and will probably go back to the bacardi raz after this sip xD
Listen to the MUSTN'Ts, child Listen to the DON'Ts Listen to the SHOULDN'Ts, The IMPOSSIBLEs, the WON'Ts Listen to the NEVER HAVEs Then listen close to me-- Anything can happen, child, ANYTHING can be --Shel Silverstein
by loyal2theroyals on
Jul 31, 2008 3:41 AM EDT
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Be careful mixing beer and liquor
The old adage is: Liquor before beer, you’re in the clear. Beer before liquor, you’re going to get sicker.
This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.
by NYRoyal on
Jul 31, 2008 3:46 AM EDT
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It's all irrelevant
as long as you drink a quart of gatorade after you’re done getting smashed!
Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.
by jonfmorse on
Jul 31, 2008 3:47 AM EDT
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That does make your vomit a more interesting color
I prefer blue.
This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.
by NYRoyal on
Jul 31, 2008 3:48 AM EDT
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My post-alcohol OPS when using the gatorade strategy
is 5.000. No hangovers, no praying before the porcelain god.
Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.
by jonfmorse on
Jul 31, 2008 3:50 AM EDT
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i drink lots of water
no hangovers, and i’ve never had enough in me to need to vomit.
because i’m smart!
Listen to the MUSTN'Ts, child Listen to the DON'Ts Listen to the SHOULDN'Ts, The IMPOSSIBLEs, the WON'Ts Listen to the NEVER HAVEs Then listen close to me-- Anything can happen, child, ANYTHING can be --Shel Silverstein
by loyal2theroyals on
Jul 31, 2008 3:51 AM EDT
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Pfft
Getting drunk isn’t about being smart! It’s about having an excuse to be stupid!
Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.
by jonfmorse on
Jul 31, 2008 3:52 AM EDT
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Pfft
Some of us don’t need an excuse to be stupid.
This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.
by NYRoyal on
Jul 31, 2008 3:52 AM EDT
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...not pointing any fingers
buuuuut…
Listen to the MUSTN'Ts, child Listen to the DON'Ts Listen to the SHOULDN'Ts, The IMPOSSIBLEs, the WON'Ts Listen to the NEVER HAVEs Then listen close to me-- Anything can happen, child, ANYTHING can be --Shel Silverstein
by loyal2theroyals on
Jul 31, 2008 3:53 AM EDT
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I do
My neurosis is the fear of embarrassing myself
Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.
by jonfmorse on
Jul 31, 2008 3:53 AM EDT
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mine is needles!
not a fan of vaccines and the like at allllll
Listen to the MUSTN'Ts, child Listen to the DON'Ts Listen to the SHOULDN'Ts, The IMPOSSIBLEs, the WON'Ts Listen to the NEVER HAVEs Then listen close to me-- Anything can happen, child, ANYTHING can be --Shel Silverstein
by loyal2theroyals on
Jul 31, 2008 3:54 AM EDT
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i have a fear of failure
so if I get smashed, and then do whatever it is (lax game, rock show, etc… ) if I screw up… “The liquor got my mind!” Viola! Instant excuse. It makes getting through a day at work hard though…
Don't Stop Believing!
by KC Chris on
Jul 31, 2008 10:09 AM EDT
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i dont get hungover...
and i cant believe you’re allowed to be 21 and never drink beer…but select sucks ass…bud light is my beer of choice for heavy drinking of beer…but boulevard is awesome….
TPJ...you're dead to me
by billybeingbilly on
Jul 31, 2008 3:56 AM EDT
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i can't imagine that hangovers would be particularly fun
and I have drank beer. I just haven’t got through one entire one by myself yet! Shush.
I think if I was desperate and had good food and didn’t have the option of the alcopops at my fingertips I would be way okay with boulevard. I just prefer to drink something else!
And technically, according to this bottle, I am drinking flavored beer, so I do like beer and there :P
Listen to the MUSTN'Ts, child Listen to the DON'Ts Listen to the SHOULDN'Ts, The IMPOSSIBLEs, the WON'Ts Listen to the NEVER HAVEs Then listen close to me-- Anything can happen, child, ANYTHING can be --Shel Silverstein
by loyal2theroyals on
Jul 31, 2008 3:59 AM EDT
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ive been to the burg a few times...and very rarely remember leaving pine street
TPJ...you're dead to me
by billybeingbilly on
Jul 31, 2008 4:06 AM EDT
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...i still have not been to pine street
but to be fair none of my friends do the crazy paryting stuff so.
I think i’m going tomorrow with my friend Mudit! it’s his 21st today (well…as in midnight today), and he’s the reason I’m drinking right nowwww. We’ll see how pine street goes.
Listen to the MUSTN'Ts, child Listen to the DON'Ts Listen to the SHOULDN'Ts, The IMPOSSIBLEs, the WON'Ts Listen to the NEVER HAVEs Then listen close to me-- Anything can happen, child, ANYTHING can be --Shel Silverstein
by loyal2theroyals on
Jul 31, 2008 4:09 AM EDT
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also!
how old are you billybeingbilly?
Listen to the MUSTN'Ts, child Listen to the DON'Ts Listen to the SHOULDN'Ts, The IMPOSSIBLEs, the WON'Ts Listen to the NEVER HAVEs Then listen close to me-- Anything can happen, child, ANYTHING can be --Shel Silverstein
by loyal2theroyals on
Jul 31, 2008 4:10 AM EDT
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22...most of the girls i know down there just graduated...
i know a couple who are 21ish
TPJ...you're dead to me
by billybeingbilly on
Jul 31, 2008 4:13 AM EDT
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fun fun
I should be up for graduating this spring, but I’m way behind in my major. I think I’m looking at fall 2010 before I student teach.
Listen to the MUSTN'Ts, child Listen to the DON'Ts Listen to the SHOULDN'Ts, The IMPOSSIBLEs, the WON'Ts Listen to the NEVER HAVEs Then listen close to me-- Anything can happen, child, ANYTHING can be --Shel Silverstein
by loyal2theroyals on
Jul 31, 2008 4:20 AM EDT
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as a father of two college aged daughters
my question is: “Have you told loyal2sdad about this calendar?”
The concept of progress acts as a protective mechanism to shield us from the terrors of the future. - Collected sayings of Muad'Dib
by buddyball on
Jul 31, 2008 12:04 PM EDT
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he made me sit down and show him just last weekend
I had to figure it out for an education requirement (yeah, requirement…crazy), so we looked at it to see if I could bump up my time any and have it be cost effective. There wasn’t. Sigh.
Listen to the MUSTN'Ts, child Listen to the DON'Ts Listen to the SHOULDN'Ts, The IMPOSSIBLEs, the WON'Ts Listen to the NEVER HAVEs Then listen close to me-- Anything can happen, child, ANYTHING can be --Shel Silverstein
by loyal2theroyals on
Jul 31, 2008 1:00 PM EDT
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wow - you got credit for doing that?
The concept of progress acts as a protective mechanism to shield us from the terrors of the future. - Collected sayings of Muad'Dib
by buddyball on
Jul 31, 2008 1:51 PM EDT
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But you have a strong constitution and transcendent grit
This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.
by NYRoyal on
Jul 31, 2008 3:51 AM EDT
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I also make sure I eat before I start running up those
three-digit bar tabs.
Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.
by jonfmorse on
Jul 31, 2008 3:52 AM EDT
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boulevard is the best i've had
but still too watery. I will happily stick with my bitch beers and fruity mixes!
Listen to the MUSTN'Ts, child Listen to the DON'Ts Listen to the SHOULDN'Ts, The IMPOSSIBLEs, the WON'Ts Listen to the NEVER HAVEs Then listen close to me-- Anything can happen, child, ANYTHING can be --Shel Silverstein
by loyal2theroyals on
Jul 31, 2008 3:49 AM EDT
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I swear
I’m going to have to come back home and force a slightly cool but not cold bottle of Yuengling on you.
Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.
by jonfmorse on
Jul 31, 2008 3:51 AM EDT
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what the hell is yuengling?
Listen to the MUSTN'Ts, child Listen to the DON'Ts Listen to the SHOULDN'Ts, The IMPOSSIBLEs, the WON'Ts Listen to the NEVER HAVEs Then listen close to me-- Anything can happen, child, ANYTHING can be --Shel Silverstein
by loyal2theroyals on
Jul 31, 2008 3:53 AM EDT
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The only beer I like
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yuengling
It’s heavy but not too thick (as opposed to the watery slop you apparently keep trying), it’s got a slightly fruity bouquet, and it doesn’t taste how one imagines horse piss would taste.
Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.
by jonfmorse on
Jul 31, 2008 3:56 AM EDT
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Oh, and
it’s also a nice rich brownish-red, rather than that piss yellow crap. Real beer shouldn’t be yellow anyway.
Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.
by jonfmorse on
Jul 31, 2008 3:58 AM EDT
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got it
I will maybe eventually someday try it. Maybe.
Listen to the MUSTN'Ts, child Listen to the DON'Ts Listen to the SHOULDN'Ts, The IMPOSSIBLEs, the WON'Ts Listen to the NEVER HAVEs Then listen close to me-- Anything can happen, child, ANYTHING can be --Shel Silverstein
by loyal2theroyals on
Jul 31, 2008 4:00 AM EDT
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I don't think it's available west of Cincy, alas
Obviously, this has to be rectified
Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.
by jonfmorse on
Jul 31, 2008 4:01 AM EDT
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obviously
maybe if I ever go to a game on the east coast i’ll be able to find it…
Listen to the MUSTN'Ts, child Listen to the DON'Ts Listen to the SHOULDN'Ts, The IMPOSSIBLEs, the WON'Ts Listen to the NEVER HAVEs Then listen close to me-- Anything can happen, child, ANYTHING can be --Shel Silverstein
by loyal2theroyals on
Jul 31, 2008 4:02 AM EDT
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Bass is a good British lager
Some flavor but not too heavy or bitter.
This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.
by NYRoyal on
Jul 31, 2008 4:10 AM EDT
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and its imbev...
which is my favorite company in t he world…just


