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Trading Deadline Extravganza Open Thread

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Let's light this candle.

Although it almost always lets us down, is there any single day better than Trade Deadline Day? Sure, as fans of a seemingly permanently bad team, our annual festival of intrigue borders on something of a death-wish, with a trio of high-profile trades (Dye, Damon, Beltran) really defining the franchise over the last fifteen years. Still as Shane Costa once wrote, "u never know". Remember, for like an eighteen month period, Angel Berroa looked like a steal.

Until, or unless something major breaks, consider this your catch-all thread for everything. I'll be adding links as they come in throughout the day. If we happen to find out that some random minor leaguer is now a proud member of this fine organization, feel free to post relevant information/analysis/opinion as well. As a rule of thumb, remember that fanshots should be used for something to share, while fanposts work best if you have something to say.

Finally, not that you asked, but here's my Official Royals Review Trade Deadline Prediction Proclamation: Mahay, Grudzielanek and one stunner/out-of-nowhere guy (i.e. not Olivo) get shipped. Yes, I'm making a very meek version of a purportedly bold statement. Unfortunately, unless you've bought like 10 Royals Review Shirts, you have no right to complain.

  • The Cubs are interested in David DeJesus. Aside from the fact that a DDJ swap seems about 98% unlikely, this would certainly be a bold move by Dayton. Maybe for Pie this would be cool, but Lord help us if this goes down. That being said, the Royals aren't in a position where they can play it safe and succeed. At some point, a major risk or two is going to have to pay off for the Royals to become a 90 win team.
  • Rosenthal is up late posting updates.
  • Grudz to the Twins? Can we get Aaron Gleeman in return?
  • Late last night I passed along the Mahay to Boston for Brandon Moss rumor. You mean Dayton isn't interested in Adam Stern?
  • Dutton reports on the mental state of Mahay and Grudz. Our days of seeing Mahay's piercing blue eyes in huge pixolated pictures on the Star website may be coming to a close.
  • Supposedly the White Sox aren't gonna do anything, which either means we've been denied a reprise of the MacDougal and Sisco trades, or the Gload one, depending on your temperament. Or were those the same deal?
  • With Will Ohman supposedly the hot lefty on the market, will Dayton be able to resist the Oh-Man's seductive Brave lineage?
  • Not really a rumor, but you gotta love the Astros. The folks at Crawfish Boxes seem to have a good attitude towards things.
  • Jeff at Lookout Landing, one of my blogging heroes, calls the Marlins "crazy" for wanting to do this purported Manny deal.
  • According to SI's Jon Heyman people actually do want Adam Dunn. Don't they know that he's a loser who strikes out and hates baseball? Home runs and walks lose games. Its been proven. You win with guys like David Eckstein. Period.
  • Today is the perfect opportunity for DePodesta to announce a trade on his blog isn't it? That would have to be some kind of weird, completely unimportant landmark. Considering how much the media has screwed that guy, I'd love to see Slightly Dangerous deny everyone the precious "break" privilege.
  • Jerry Crasnick looks back at some big deals that turned out differently than expected. His number one entry is the Colon/Sizemore-Lee-Phillips trade. The funny thing is, everyone I read at the time seemed to think that trade was exactly what it became: borderline irresponsibility on Minaya's part. But hey, it was part of a decade's long plot to destroy baseball in Montreal and find the next wave of tax monies, so its all worked out. And thanks to the Nationals and their mallpark, everyone in D.C. is like a millionaire now, or something.

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This is gonna be a wild Deadline Day!

...ok, probably not.

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Jul 31, 2008 2:14 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

But I do appreciate the bold prediction

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Jul 31, 2008 2:17 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Florida would be making a big mistake if they trade for Manny.

They already lead the NL in slugging, home runs and they were fourth in runs scored going into Wednesday night. Their biggest problem is defense. So why on earth would they trade for a malcontent and a rent-a-player who will hurt their defense and maybe add a few more home runs? It would be a horrible trade for Florida. They need pitching and defense.

[/serious post]

Oh, and I predict Gload will be exploding somewhere else Friday night.

Banny being Banny.

by JobDDT on Jul 31, 2008 2:22 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

They still have a deep farm system i think it would be a great move..

Yasuhiko Yabuta is to Major League Baseball as Drew Carey is to The Price is Right

by focs on Jul 31, 2008 2:28 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

If Moore trades Gload

I’m going to fly to KC and give him a big, sloppy kiss on the lips. Unfortunately, I fear Moore’s lips will go unkissed. :(

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Jul 31, 2008 2:30 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That's what she said

She would do anything (or anyone) for Justin

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Jul 31, 2008 2:33 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

In a heartbeat

Because Moore and Hillman wouldn’t overexpose his Gload-like hitting.

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Jul 31, 2008 2:34 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Zack greinke has been getting interest from Texas

Zack Greinke for Chris Davis… Would you do it ? i Would

He has 74 homers in the minors in his first 3 years and is in the bigs already with 10 homers in 103 AB’s

Yasuhiko Yabuta is to Major League Baseball as Drew Carey is to The Price is Right

by focs on Jul 31, 2008 2:31 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Trade an established great young pitcher for a prospect?

More than a few minor league phenoms have flopped in the majors. Greinke is a minor league phenom who has finally succeeded in the majors. That wouldn’t be a fair or equal trade. And it would take the organization backwards a step.

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Jul 31, 2008 2:36 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Eh. i wouldnt say by any means greinke has succeded yet.. he has shown great flashes though

Yasuhiko Yabuta is to Major League Baseball as Drew Carey is to The Price is Right

by focs on Jul 31, 2008 2:37 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

He's had much more major league success than Chris Davis

And that is the point. That is why such a trade wouldn’t be close to fair or equal.

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Jul 31, 2008 2:38 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

add grudzielanek and kinsler then ?

Yasuhiko Yabuta is to Major League Baseball as Drew Carey is to The Price is Right

by focs on Jul 31, 2008 2:40 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

He hasn't succeeded?

Greinke’s numbers right now have him as either a weak #1 or a great #2. And that means he hasn’t succeeded?

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Jul 31, 2008 9:41 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

He more than likely is..

no one is unavailable though.. some just require an offer that cant be refused

Yasuhiko Yabuta is to Major League Baseball as Drew Carey is to The Price is Right

by focs on Jul 31, 2008 2:41 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It would take a huge, massive haul for anyone to take Greinke from us

And I don’t think anyone will give up that much. He’s just worth too much to the Royals.

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Jul 31, 2008 2:45 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

+1

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Jul 31, 2008 9:41 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Why would the Royals trade Greinke?

He is the type of guy KC is trying to keep and build around. First round pick, product of the farm system, ace potential and young. Instead, KC fans are looking to trade him for prospects who if we follow the Royals track record, won’t pan out. Greinke would be the next in the line of guys we develop and trade like Beltran, Damon, etc.

Can’t believe that DM would even consider trading Greinke even for a massive haul. And to the Rangers – ugghhh!!!

by daveyork on Jul 31, 2008 1:29 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Kila Now!

Call him up and get rid of gload

Yasuhiko Yabuta is to Major League Baseball as Drew Carey is to The Price is Right

by focs on Jul 31, 2008 2:34 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

At this rate.. we will have an overflow thread by 6 am :D

Yasuhiko Yabuta is to Major League Baseball as Drew Carey is to The Price is Right

by focs on Jul 31, 2008 2:35 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Bed time I think

We’re not going to get any more info until tomorrow.

I’d be shocked if we actually made a deal to be honest.

Rowdy Hardy Fan Club member.

by doublestix on Jul 31, 2008 2:41 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Same unfortunately.

Yasuhiko Yabuta is to Major League Baseball as Drew Carey is to The Price is Right

by focs on Jul 31, 2008 2:41 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Anyone here any news on Hosmer ? Melville?

Yasuhiko Yabuta is to Major League Baseball as Drew Carey is to The Price is Right

by focs on Jul 31, 2008 2:42 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Nothing new

I don’t think we’ll get any real word on either of them until after Aug. 8. Rumors and reports say Melville is in the bag. I’d be shocked if Hosmer didn’t sign. I think by midnight on Aug. 15, both will officially be Royals.

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Jul 31, 2008 2:46 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i wish they didnt wait this damn long... its annoying

Giavotella is already smacking balls why these guys squeeze out every dollar..

Yasuhiko Yabuta is to Major League Baseball as Drew Carey is to The Price is Right

by focs on Jul 31, 2008 2:50 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

For most players, their signing bonus is the only big payday they ever get

This is true even of first round draftees. It’s important for them to get as much as they can. If I were them, I’d hold out for as much money as possible.

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Jul 31, 2008 2:55 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

+1

The future is way too uncertain for athletes. They need to cash in as much and as soon as possible.

Chaim Mattis Keller New York City's # 1 Royals fan!

by cmkeller on Jul 31, 2008 9:45 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I also read

that even if there is a deal in place, Selig can hold up approval if it is way over slot until most others sign. Don’t know if this is true, but would make sense.

Don't Stop Believing!

by KC Chris on Jul 31, 2008 10:06 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

it is true

some have speculated that might be the case with Melville—that a deal has been in place for weeks, but that the commish has been delaying approval until more players sign.

by DarthYoshi on Jul 31, 2008 10:13 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Agreed

A few weeks won’t hurt him. Besides, Hosmer is still playing ball, so its not like he’s sitting around getting fat on ice cream.

Relive Royals History at royalsretro.blogspot.com

by RoyalsRetro on Jul 31, 2008 10:43 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I doubt anyone's still awake

but! I’m officially trying beer. We have boulevard wheat and bud select.

We’ll see how this goes or if I just stick with the bacardi raz.

Listen to the MUSTN'Ts, child Listen to the DON'Ts Listen to the SHOULDN'Ts, The IMPOSSIBLEs, the WON'Ts Listen to the NEVER HAVEs Then listen close to me-- Anything can happen, child, ANYTHING can be --Shel Silverstein

by loyal2theroyals on Jul 31, 2008 2:54 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Loyal2theroyals turned 21 earlier this year

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Jul 31, 2008 3:26 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

may 1st!

and billybeingbilly…I hate beer, so this is a big step.

The bud select was DISGUSTING. Currently working on the boulevard. I’ve been pawning off the stuff I don’t like on my guy friend, and will probably go back to the bacardi raz after this sip xD

Listen to the MUSTN'Ts, child Listen to the DON'Ts Listen to the SHOULDN'Ts, The IMPOSSIBLEs, the WON'Ts Listen to the NEVER HAVEs Then listen close to me-- Anything can happen, child, ANYTHING can be --Shel Silverstein

by loyal2theroyals on Jul 31, 2008 3:41 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Be careful mixing beer and liquor

The old adage is: Liquor before beer, you’re in the clear. Beer before liquor, you’re going to get sicker.

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Jul 31, 2008 3:46 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It's all irrelevant

as long as you drink a quart of gatorade after you’re done getting smashed!

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on Jul 31, 2008 3:47 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That does make your vomit a more interesting color

I prefer blue.

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Jul 31, 2008 3:48 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

My post-alcohol OPS when using the gatorade strategy

is 5.000. No hangovers, no praying before the porcelain god.

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on Jul 31, 2008 3:50 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i drink lots of water

no hangovers, and i’ve never had enough in me to need to vomit.

because i’m smart!

Listen to the MUSTN'Ts, child Listen to the DON'Ts Listen to the SHOULDN'Ts, The IMPOSSIBLEs, the WON'Ts Listen to the NEVER HAVEs Then listen close to me-- Anything can happen, child, ANYTHING can be --Shel Silverstein

by loyal2theroyals on Jul 31, 2008 3:51 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Pfft

Getting drunk isn’t about being smart! It’s about having an excuse to be stupid!

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on Jul 31, 2008 3:52 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Pfft

Some of us don’t need an excuse to be stupid.

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Jul 31, 2008 3:52 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

...not pointing any fingers

buuuuut…

Listen to the MUSTN'Ts, child Listen to the DON'Ts Listen to the SHOULDN'Ts, The IMPOSSIBLEs, the WON'Ts Listen to the NEVER HAVEs Then listen close to me-- Anything can happen, child, ANYTHING can be --Shel Silverstein

by loyal2theroyals on Jul 31, 2008 3:53 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I do

My neurosis is the fear of embarrassing myself

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on Jul 31, 2008 3:53 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

mine is needles!

not a fan of vaccines and the like at allllll

Listen to the MUSTN'Ts, child Listen to the DON'Ts Listen to the SHOULDN'Ts, The IMPOSSIBLEs, the WON'Ts Listen to the NEVER HAVEs Then listen close to me-- Anything can happen, child, ANYTHING can be --Shel Silverstein

by loyal2theroyals on Jul 31, 2008 3:54 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i have a fear of failure

so if I get smashed, and then do whatever it is (lax game, rock show, etc… ) if I screw up… “The liquor got my mind!” Viola! Instant excuse. It makes getting through a day at work hard though…

Don't Stop Believing!

by KC Chris on Jul 31, 2008 10:09 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

+1

TPJ...you're dead to me

by billybeingbilly on Jul 31, 2008 3:56 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i dont get hungover...

and i cant believe you’re allowed to be 21 and never drink beer…but select sucks ass…bud light is my beer of choice for heavy drinking of beer…but boulevard is awesome….

TPJ...you're dead to me

by billybeingbilly on Jul 31, 2008 3:56 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i can't imagine that hangovers would be particularly fun

and I have drank beer. I just haven’t got through one entire one by myself yet! Shush.

I think if I was desperate and had good food and didn’t have the option of the alcopops at my fingertips I would be way okay with boulevard. I just prefer to drink something else!

And technically, according to this bottle, I am drinking flavored beer, so I do like beer and there :P

Listen to the MUSTN'Ts, child Listen to the DON'Ts Listen to the SHOULDN'Ts, The IMPOSSIBLEs, the WON'Ts Listen to the NEVER HAVEs Then listen close to me-- Anything can happen, child, ANYTHING can be --Shel Silverstein

by loyal2theroyals on Jul 31, 2008 3:59 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

...i still have not been to pine street

but to be fair none of my friends do the crazy paryting stuff so.

I think i’m going tomorrow with my friend Mudit! it’s his 21st today (well…as in midnight today), and he’s the reason I’m drinking right nowwww. We’ll see how pine street goes.

Listen to the MUSTN'Ts, child Listen to the DON'Ts Listen to the SHOULDN'Ts, The IMPOSSIBLEs, the WON'Ts Listen to the NEVER HAVEs Then listen close to me-- Anything can happen, child, ANYTHING can be --Shel Silverstein

by loyal2theroyals on Jul 31, 2008 4:09 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

also!

how old are you billybeingbilly?

Listen to the MUSTN'Ts, child Listen to the DON'Ts Listen to the SHOULDN'Ts, The IMPOSSIBLEs, the WON'Ts Listen to the NEVER HAVEs Then listen close to me-- Anything can happen, child, ANYTHING can be --Shel Silverstein

by loyal2theroyals on Jul 31, 2008 4:10 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

fun fun

I should be up for graduating this spring, but I’m way behind in my major. I think I’m looking at fall 2010 before I student teach.

Listen to the MUSTN'Ts, child Listen to the DON'Ts Listen to the SHOULDN'Ts, The IMPOSSIBLEs, the WON'Ts Listen to the NEVER HAVEs Then listen close to me-- Anything can happen, child, ANYTHING can be --Shel Silverstein

by loyal2theroyals on Jul 31, 2008 4:20 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

as a father of two college aged daughters

my question is: “Have you told loyal2sdad about this calendar?”

The concept of progress acts as a protective mechanism to shield us from the terrors of the future. - Collected sayings of Muad'Dib

by buddyball on Jul 31, 2008 12:04 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

he made me sit down and show him just last weekend

I had to figure it out for an education requirement (yeah, requirement…crazy), so we looked at it to see if I could bump up my time any and have it be cost effective. There wasn’t. Sigh.

Listen to the MUSTN'Ts, child Listen to the DON'Ts Listen to the SHOULDN'Ts, The IMPOSSIBLEs, the WON'Ts Listen to the NEVER HAVEs Then listen close to me-- Anything can happen, child, ANYTHING can be --Shel Silverstein

by loyal2theroyals on Jul 31, 2008 1:00 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

wow - you got credit for doing that?

The concept of progress acts as a protective mechanism to shield us from the terrors of the future. - Collected sayings of Muad'Dib

by buddyball on Jul 31, 2008 1:51 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

boulevard is the best i've had

but still too watery. I will happily stick with my bitch beers and fruity mixes!

Listen to the MUSTN'Ts, child Listen to the DON'Ts Listen to the SHOULDN'Ts, The IMPOSSIBLEs, the WON'Ts Listen to the NEVER HAVEs Then listen close to me-- Anything can happen, child, ANYTHING can be --Shel Silverstein

by loyal2theroyals on Jul 31, 2008 3:49 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I swear

I’m going to have to come back home and force a slightly cool but not cold bottle of Yuengling on you.

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on Jul 31, 2008 3:51 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

what the hell is yuengling?

Listen to the MUSTN'Ts, child Listen to the DON'Ts Listen to the SHOULDN'Ts, The IMPOSSIBLEs, the WON'Ts Listen to the NEVER HAVEs Then listen close to me-- Anything can happen, child, ANYTHING can be --Shel Silverstein

by loyal2theroyals on Jul 31, 2008 3:53 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The only beer I like

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yuengling

It’s heavy but not too thick (as opposed to the watery slop you apparently keep trying), it’s got a slightly fruity bouquet, and it doesn’t taste how one imagines horse piss would taste.

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on Jul 31, 2008 3:56 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Oh, and

it’s also a nice rich brownish-red, rather than that piss yellow crap. Real beer shouldn’t be yellow anyway.

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on Jul 31, 2008 3:58 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

got it

I will maybe eventually someday try it. Maybe.

Listen to the MUSTN'Ts, child Listen to the DON'Ts Listen to the SHOULDN'Ts, The IMPOSSIBLEs, the WON'Ts Listen to the NEVER HAVEs Then listen close to me-- Anything can happen, child, ANYTHING can be --Shel Silverstein

by loyal2theroyals on Jul 31, 2008 4:00 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I don't think it's available west of Cincy, alas

Obviously, this has to be rectified

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on Jul 31, 2008 4:01 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

obviously

maybe if I ever go to a game on the east coast i’ll be able to find it…

Listen to the MUSTN'Ts, child Listen to the DON'Ts Listen to the SHOULDN'Ts, The IMPOSSIBLEs, the WON'Ts Listen to the NEVER HAVEs Then listen close to me-- Anything can happen, child, ANYTHING can be --Shel Silverstein

by loyal2theroyals on Jul 31, 2008 4:02 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Bass is a good British lager

Some flavor but not too heavy or bitter.

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Jul 31, 2008 4:10 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

and its imbev...

which is my favorite company in t he world…just b/c they took the only thing STL had going for them

TPJ...you're dead to me

by billybeingbilly on Jul 31, 2008 4:14 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

To alcohol!

The cause of, and solution to, all life’s problems

Chaim Mattis Keller New York City's # 1 Royals fan!

by cmkeller on Jul 31, 2008 9:47 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Good luck with the beer.

Why am I awake? See y’all tomorrow, I just realized how late it is.

by minda33 on Jul 31, 2008 3:38 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i think it's official

that I don’t either!

Listen to the MUSTN'Ts, child Listen to the DON'Ts Listen to the SHOULDN'Ts, The IMPOSSIBLEs, the WON'Ts Listen to the NEVER HAVEs Then listen close to me-- Anything can happen, child, ANYTHING can be --Shel Silverstein

by loyal2theroyals on Jul 31, 2008 1:01 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

try a

double chocolate stout. my wife likes those. Or Samuel Smiths oatmeal stout is pretty good too. She also like the Lunar and Zon beers from Boulevard. Different than the wheat.

Don't Stop Believing!

by KC Chris on Jul 31, 2008 1:04 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

News nobody posted:

Padres DFAed Chip Ambres.

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on Jul 31, 2008 3:41 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

poor chippy

he was a good man.

or something like that :(

Listen to the MUSTN'Ts, child Listen to the DON'Ts Listen to the SHOULDN'Ts, The IMPOSSIBLEs, the WON'Ts Listen to the NEVER HAVEs Then listen close to me-- Anything can happen, child, ANYTHING can be --Shel Silverstein

by loyal2theroyals on Jul 31, 2008 3:42 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

He was Satan.

Remember the 11-run ninth!

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on Jul 31, 2008 3:43 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I don't D:

when was this agian?

My knowledge stops at 2005…and even 05 is sketchy so…

Listen to the MUSTN'Ts, child Listen to the DON'Ts Listen to the SHOULDN'Ts, The IMPOSSIBLEs, the WON'Ts Listen to the NEVER HAVEs Then listen close to me-- Anything can happen, child, ANYTHING can be --Shel Silverstein

by loyal2theroyals on Jul 31, 2008 3:43 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

August 9, 2005

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on Jul 31, 2008 3:46 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

oops

Here we go

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on Jul 31, 2008 3:47 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I sowwy

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on Jul 31, 2008 3:46 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You'd better be.

I’ll make myself feel better by watching the immortal Dee Brown (more nightmare fuel) roam the outfield for someone else’s AAA team tomorrow.

(He’s a Salt Lake Bee these days, which Porcus and I totally didn’t know until he came up to bat against Omaha tonight)

by minda33 on Jul 31, 2008 3:48 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I almost went to a salt lake stingers game!

that was like…back when I lived in Utah, but still. If I ever go back for a visit in teh summer, it’s in my plans.

Listen to the MUSTN'Ts, child Listen to the DON'Ts Listen to the SHOULDN'Ts, The IMPOSSIBLEs, the WON'Ts Listen to the NEVER HAVEs Then listen close to me-- Anything can happen, child, ANYTHING can be --Shel Silverstein

by loyal2theroyals on Jul 31, 2008 3:49 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Dayton should shoehorn himself in on the Manny deal

get someone from Florida, move someone to Pittsburgh

by BHWick on Jul 31, 2008 5:05 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I just woke up, pulled my laptop over from my shelf, and started reading

I don’t know what is a worse testament to who I am as a person—the fact that I am checking RR at 7:30 am within moments of waking up, or that I’m pissed that I missed out on another “Loyal2 hates beer” discussion here.

by DarthYoshi on Jul 31, 2008 8:36 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It sounds like the White Sox

just acquired Ken Griffey Jr. that gives them another bat, but I would figure they would go after a starting pitcher if they go after anybody. I hate the Sox.

by lordbyronk on Jul 31, 2008 8:56 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Just waiting for Griffey's approval, sounds like.

My mother's basement is better than YOUR mother's basement!!

by Royal Kingdom on Jul 31, 2008 9:11 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The encouraging thing

is with the Sox and Tigers playing for now, they are depleting their farm systems, so hopefully they will be getting weaker as their players age as the Royals get stronger as their players continue to grow.

by lordbyronk on Jul 31, 2008 9:15 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

A very good point. Ah, the cyclical nature of baseball,

its amazing the Royals have managed to stay bad for so long.

My mother's basement is better than YOUR mother's basement!!

by Royal Kingdom on Jul 31, 2008 9:17 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

indeed.

My mother's basement is better than YOUR mother's basement!!

by Royal Kingdom on Jul 31, 2008 9:19 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Come gather 'round people whereever you roam...

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Jul 31, 2008 9:43 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

So it's time we admit

that the waters around us have grown?

And that, pretty soon, we’ll be drenched to the bone?

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Jul 31, 2008 10:04 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

And theres no tellin who
That its namin.
For the loser now
Will be later to win

My mother's basement is better than YOUR mother's basement!!

by Royal Kingdom on Jul 31, 2008 10:33 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Such a great song

time to fire up iTunes.

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Jul 31, 2008 10:37 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Either the Royals or just getting laid

“The chicks always fall for this ‘social conscience’ crap.”

Indeed they do, Bob, indeed they do.

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Jul 31, 2008 11:42 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Wheeee

social conscience social conscience social conscience

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Jul 31, 2008 11:46 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Griffy coming to AL Central

The Dayton Daily News confirms this situation. Hal McCoy is normally rock solid on player news.

As a Reds fan, this news brings me down. Griffy is guy you have no trouble cheering for. I hope he kills the deal. Who would want to play for the White Sox?

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by James Quinn on Jul 31, 2008 9:26 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

AJ Pierzynski

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Jul 31, 2008 9:44 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Oh, I hope not.

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by James Quinn on Jul 31, 2008 9:58 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I think AJ fits in well

on the south side.

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Jul 31, 2008 10:04 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Sounds like the 2b market is heating up.

If GMDM doesn’t get something out of Grudz or German, he ain’t doin’ his yob.

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by Royal Kingdom on Jul 31, 2008 9:13 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The Twins have a lot of pitching prospects

even a buy low opportunity for someone like Bonser and a mid level prospect would be an OK return for two months of Grudz. If anything just freeing up the log jam at 2B would be an improvement.

by lordbyronk on Jul 31, 2008 9:17 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

depends on who the midlevel prospect is

I am not a big fan of Boof Bonser—he has declined in almost every statistical category since hitting the bigs in 2006 and has only pitched om 26 games this year (less than half are starts). Minnesota’s attempts to turn him into a reliever haven’t been terribly encouraging so far.

The Twins are one of the few teams that are genuinely in the market for a second baseman, but unfortunately, their decent prospects are heavily skewed towards pitching, just like the Royals. Assuming (with the Mahay rumor) that we are looking for OF help, the only OF prospect in the Twins’ system who might make sense in a Grudz trade is Chris Parmelee, who has some encouraging OBP and SLG stats, but is still only in A ball, and the absolute earliest he could be ready for the majors would be mid-2010, if not 2011.

by DarthYoshi on Jul 31, 2008 9:30 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Only a .239 average but coming out, he was the 2nd best HS

pure hitting prospect, sounds like he has underperformed, but still has decent upside. I’d take him for 2 months of Grud.

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by Royal Kingdom on Jul 31, 2008 9:42 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

His OBP numbers, especially relative to his average, are very good

For whatever reason, Sickels is not a big fan of the guy. Probably a combination of the low average and stratospheric K rate.

If the Twins offered him as a part of a trade for Grud, I would be all ears as well. But I would consider him more the centerpiece of a trade than Boof Bonser. Bonser turns 27 this year, is unlikely to get much better, and the Twins already treat him like spare parts.

by DarthYoshi on Jul 31, 2008 10:28 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Ivan Rodriguez to the Yankees

Kyle Farnsworth to the Tigers.

Wow. Um…the Yankees win the trade, I guess, but it’s hard to understate how impressed I am by this deal.

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Jul 31, 2008 10:06 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Me too

If they were giving away Pudge, I wish they would’ve let other teams know.

by lordbyronk on Jul 31, 2008 10:10 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Farnsworth

Farnsworth has pitched very well and we all know how leaky Detroit’s bullpen is. Pudge has been solid but of course isn’t the guy he once was. Both guys are free agents in a few months. It should end up being a useful deal for both clubs although it isn’t nearly the blockbuster it might seem to the casual fan who knows the names.

by cookierojas73 on Jul 31, 2008 10:17 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Gah

Farnsworth gets pounded by lefties and gives up too many fly balls. “Pudge” can’t get on base anymore. I just don’t see this trade as all that much of a big deal.

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by NHZ on Jul 31, 2008 10:18 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Fair enough

You’re right; neither player is probably going to make a huge difference, so it’s very likely much ado about nothing. I give Detroit a very slight edge, though. Farnsworth should be helped at least a bit by going to a more spacious park, no? I see that he has given up 8 HR at Yankee Stadium vs. 3 on the road in a similar number of IP this year. And he has been pitching very well of late. The Tigers really needed a live arm and I would say that they got a pretty decent one for a really reasonable price.

I thought it was actually a pretty creative trade by the respective GMs…need for a need.

by cookierojas73 on Jul 31, 2008 10:30 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Not a big Pudge fan

But for the Yankees, it’s not so much that Pudge is great (although he is a league average hitter [101 OPS+], so an above-average hitting catcher0, but that they don’t have to play Jose Molina every day. And they didn’t give up much, while filling a slot that had an below-replacement level player with a good hitter for the position. I think that’s a smart trade.

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Jul 31, 2008 11:52 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Is Griffey to Chicago

official? Griffey’s not WT enough to play in Chicago, too much of a pretty boy.

One man with courage makes a majority - Andrew Jackson

by Home Run Tony Cogan on Jul 31, 2008 10:11 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Well, if "pretty boy" equals "decent human being" then yeah.

Do you know who would fit in with the White Sox’ perfectly?


This guy!

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by James Quinn on Jul 31, 2008 10:30 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

do these slacks

make my ass look fat?

One man with courage makes a majority - Andrew Jackson

by Home Run Tony Cogan on Jul 31, 2008 10:32 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Grudz probably won't get traded today

he’s not extremely desirable. If he moves it will probably be one of those slipping thru the waiver wire type deals after the deadline- quoting Stark

Every fight is a food fight when you’re a cannibal.
-- Demetri Martin

by kcscoliny on Jul 31, 2008 10:24 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Will Grudz be a Type A Free Agent?

If he finishes the year in KC the decision to offer him arbitration or not will be a tough call if he makes the A list.

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by James Quinn on Jul 31, 2008 10:32 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

wouldn't he

accept the arb offer if we gave it to him? I’m assuming they could discuss with him ahead of time, but I’d hate to offer, have him accept then we’re stuck with him for another year.

One man with courage makes a majority - Andrew Jackson

by Home Run Tony Cogan on Jul 31, 2008 10:34 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It is a possiblity.

If he turned it down the Royals would get another early draft pick. If he accepted it, would another year of Grudz really be a bad thing for the team? The guy can still play. He helps the team. He isn’t the future, but he isn’t the problem either.

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by James Quinn on Jul 31, 2008 10:38 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

he cannot

catch a fly ball in shallow right field anymore.

Don't Stop Believing!

by KC Chris on Jul 31, 2008 10:39 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

He won’t stay. He wants to be on a contending team

Don't forget to send your broken maples to the US Forest Service.

by 306008 on Jul 31, 2008 11:02 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i wan to be on a contending team too

doesn’t mean I’ll got to.

Don't Stop Believing!

by KC Chris on Jul 31, 2008 11:03 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It wouldn't be a terrible thing for the royals if Grudz was on the

team next year but I really believe Callaspo could provide everything he can at this stage in his career.

Every fight is a food fight when you’re a cannibal.
-- Demetri Martin

by kcscoliny on Jul 31, 2008 11:02 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i like Grudz

but we need to move on.

Don't Stop Believing!

by KC Chris on Jul 31, 2008 11:03 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Including sobriety?

Chaim Mattis Keller New York City's # 1 Royals fan!

by cmkeller on Jul 31, 2008 12:35 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The boy can hit!

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Jul 31, 2008 12:37 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

(gunshot)

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Jul 31, 2008 12:40 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

did you mean ? I hope?

The concept of progress acts as a protective mechanism to shield us from the terrors of the future. - Collected sayings of Muad'Dib

by buddyball on Jul 31, 2008 1:53 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

the should have read (rimshot)

The concept of progress acts as a protective mechanism to shield us from the terrors of the future. - Collected sayings of Muad'Dib

by buddyball on Jul 31, 2008 1:53 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

What about Mahay

next year? Assumign he has similar performance…

So that could weigh in to his trade value.

Don't Stop Believing!

by KC Chris on Jul 31, 2008 10:37 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Those rankings are based on the performance of the player over the last two years.

So we really couldn’t guess at this point about Mahay. It is pretty tough for a middle reliever to get A status I think.

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by James Quinn on Jul 31, 2008 10:40 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

is it reasonable

to think he could repeat his performance from this year to next? If so, would he qualify for A/B status?

Don't Stop Believing!

by KC Chris on Jul 31, 2008 11:08 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I don't know, but David Riske only got a B ranking after last year.

I think it is pretty hard for a middle reliever to get that A ranking.

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by James Quinn on Jul 31, 2008 11:53 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You have to be a "Proven Closer"

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by RoyalsRetro on Jul 31, 2008 11:54 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

According to the Elias rankings

Grudz’s 2007 performance was only good enough for Type B classification, so I don’t know if he’ll have done enough to move up to Type A. My guess is he stays Type B.

by DarthYoshi on Jul 31, 2008 10:40 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I agree

Especially if we have to offer him arbitration in order to get that compensatory pick.

by DarthYoshi on Jul 31, 2008 10:43 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Thanks

Good work with the links RR and the rumors/comments everyone. Already through two hours of “work” with some help from the RoyalsReview community. Now if only Dayton would provide us with something definitive instead of just rumor…

Oh and I can’t wait to show that Pujols pic to my roommate / STL transplant / evil Cards fan.

by KCctrell85 on Jul 31, 2008 10:36 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yes.

Us “working” individuals are grateful for the efforts of you all. I fear this site may one day get me fired. Eh, wouldn’t be the end of the world.

by KCScuba on Jul 31, 2008 11:07 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Arthur Rhodes has been dealt

Peter Gammons of ESPN reports that the Mariners have traded Arthur Rhodes to the Marlins for Gaby Hernandez.

Hernandez was a once hot prospect who has been terrible this year. Look for a ton of lefty relievers to get dealt now.

Relive Royals History at royalsretro.blogspot.com

by RoyalsRetro on Jul 31, 2008 11:04 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The first shot has been fired… itchy trigger finger? Does Rhodes still have it or will that blow up in their face?

Don't forget to send your broken maples to the US Forest Service.

by 306008 on Jul 31, 2008 11:17 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Crawfish Boxes

I just saw the Astros acquired Latroy Hawkins. Dear god, why? And they gave up a pretty darn good player too (I had Matt Cusick in my Royals shadow draft last year – he seems like a Johnny Giovatella type)

While it must suck to see your management so inept (I can speak from experience), it does make Lookout Landing, Crawfish Boxes, and Royals Review much more amusing.

Relive Royals History at royalsretro.blogspot.com

by RoyalsRetro on Jul 31, 2008 11:06 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Appearently Griffey has waived the no trade clause.

Don't forget to send your broken maples to the US Forest Service.

by 306008 on Jul 31, 2008 11:26 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Griffey trade complete

with Nick Masset and Danny Richar going to the Reds.

by lordbyronk on Jul 31, 2008 11:50 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

+1

In Kaufman

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Jul 31, 2008 11:54 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

yeah

i wrote up a whole diary on why we should acquire Swisher this last offseason, and before I could post it, the damn ChiSox got him.

Don't Stop Believing!

by KC Chris on Jul 31, 2008 11:56 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I love Swisher

And he would have been great in right, but no way the Royals could have afforded the price in prospects

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Jul 31, 2008 11:58 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

yeah

but it was fun to think about.

Don't Stop Believing!

by KC Chris on Jul 31, 2008 11:59 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Swisher + Butler = FUN

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Jul 31, 2008 12:00 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

To play...where exactly?

If they want to play him CF, I fully look forward to the baseball bloopers that will be coming nightly from Chicago. Jose Guillen right now has more range than Griffey.

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by RoyalsRetro on Jul 31, 2008 11:53 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Griffy brought very little in return

I guess it is an outright salary dump. Griffey has something like an $18M option for next year with a $6M buyout. This looks to me like the Reds are just sheding salary. Too bad for Cincinnati fans.

I understand Griffy will play RF and Swisher will move to first and Kornenko will hit the bench.

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by James Quinn on Jul 31, 2008 11:57 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Whiffey OPS+

103. Not exactly inspiring. Plus he’s possibly one of the worst defensive outfielders in baseball.

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by RoyalsRetro on Jul 31, 2008 12:02 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yeah, I know,

but I can’t look at this trade without some emotion. Griffey is not much of an asset this year, but the guy is a first ballet HOFer. Plus he has been nothing but a good guy his entire stay in Cincinnati.

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by James Quinn on Jul 31, 2008 12:05 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Oh, Reds are picking up his salary for the rest of this year.

Unless Griff wanted this trade to happen, I wouldn’t have gone for it.

www.rockchalktalk.com for pretty good KU baseball coverage

by James Quinn on Jul 31, 2008 12:06 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yea, that's odd

Danny Richar and Nick Masset are really not worth paying Griffey not to play for you. Plus it looks bad PR wise.

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by RoyalsRetro on Jul 31, 2008 12:07 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The Griffey in Cinncinnati thing was a lot like the Sweeney in KC thing.

Everyone liked him and remembered his good years, but they were pretty ready for a younger player to take over for him.

Still, the return he brought in will not go over well with Reds fans.

Maybe he wanted the trade? If so, then it is all much more easy to swallow. (NO “SHE SAID” jokes here!)

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by James Quinn on Jul 31, 2008 12:10 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

What?

Is it what he said?

not that there's anything wrong with that

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Jul 31, 2008 12:11 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Good updrade if they move Konerko to the Bench

he is sucking at a Gloadlike level this year.

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by Royal Kingdom on Jul 31, 2008 12:23 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Oh, you know how it goes

the deadline in is four hours, and they’ll announce all of them at like 1 AM anyway.

And besides…(I know your question may’ve been tongue-in-cheek) but I wouldn’t surprised if nothing bigger than Sabathia, Harden, or Teix happened.

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Jul 31, 2008 11:50 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I don't like the big blockbusters

Because they suck all the air out of the room. Give me lots of interesting little trades – Jason Bay to Tampa Bay, Mahay to Philly, Fuentes to Boston, etc.

A Man-Ram trade will be all anyone talks about ad infinitum, when I really don’t care that much.

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by RoyalsRetro on Jul 31, 2008 11:56 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Blockbusters can be fun

And listening to hour upon hour of Manny Ramirez trade rumors has never been my favorite pasttime.

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Jul 31, 2008 11:57 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Not at the moment

I can only take so much of those idiots.

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Jul 31, 2008 11:59 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

On the Griffey Trade

1)
http://www.southsidesox.com/2008/7/31/583497/the-sox-just-traded-for-ke

2) saw this in the comments:

griffey playing center would be insanity. he was atrocious five years ago.

Some numbers:

Center Field

UZR: -46 runs per 150 games (2003-2006)
PMR: -44 outs per 150 games (2005-2006)
RZR: -36 outs per 150 games (2004-2006)

Right Field

UZR: -16 runs per 150 games (2007)
PMR: -14 outs per 150 games (2007)
RZR: -22 outs per 150 games (2007-2008)

by royalsreview on Jul 31, 2008 11:54 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Dear lord

That’s worse than Billy Butler stumbling around out there.

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by RoyalsRetro on Jul 31, 2008 11:55 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

But not nearly as entertaining

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Jul 31, 2008 11:55 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Formatting thing

I think I figured it out last night—if you start a paragraph with a [space] it does it….

here's the test

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Jul 31, 2008 11:55 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Aha?

pass me a beer

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Jul 31, 2008 11:56 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Wait wait so do I actually type [space]?

Gload is horrible.

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Jul 31, 2008 11:58 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

No, it's just a space

like this, bitch

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Jul 31, 2008 11:58 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

No, that's not it, maybe another paragraph witha space bar at the beginning

aight?

that's what she said

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Jul 31, 2008 11:59 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Oh, hell

is that what she said?

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Jul 31, 2008 12:00 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It didn't work, so ha.

devil_fingers is a son of a silly person

devil_fingers is a silly person?

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Jul 31, 2008 12:00 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Try again

Make it the second line or something

Jose Guillen leads the team in fiery leadership

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Jul 31, 2008 12:01 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Once upon a time

the formatting on this blog absolutely
drove me crazy

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Jul 31, 2008 12:02 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Dammit

Let’s try:

the quick brown moose jumped over the lazy cheetah.

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Jul 31, 2008 12:02 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yay!

It’s like Billy Butler trying to get a bunt down!

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Jul 31, 2008 12:03 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I never was good at bunting

what a 

totally fucking useless skill.

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Jul 31, 2008 12:03 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

not if

you’re

Joey Gathright.

Don't Stop Believing!

by KC Chris on Jul 31, 2008 12:04 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Maybe, but

he is

totally fucking useless even if bunting isn't.

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Jul 31, 2008 12:05 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Mitch

Maier

Now!

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Jul 31, 2008 12:06 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'm

rich, bitch,

I'm a real big-timer.

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Jul 31, 2008 12:07 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

he would

be

less-use-less though.

Don't Stop Believing!

by KC Chris on Jul 31, 2008 12:07 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Nope

he’ll always be Joey Gathright.

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Jul 31, 2008 12:07 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

fair enough.

i really can’t stand the guy.

Don't Stop Believing!

by KC Chris on Jul 31, 2008 12:08 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Don't stop believing

someday he might SLG .350!

Someday.

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Jul 31, 2008 12:09 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

only if

he get his

AVG up to .350!

Don't Stop Believing!

by KC Chris on Jul 31, 2008 12:10 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

does the

text not wrap? 

is that why every time one of you accidentally use this font and the post is pretty fairly nested and it runs off the page instead of wrapping and it's all highighted in blue and no one can figure out why it is happening and... did this work?

Don't Stop Believing!

by KC Chris on Jul 31, 2008 12:15 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That's the mystery

of the 

annoying formatting glitch

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Jul 31, 2008 12:16 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Ooh, but wait

experiment:

I am already drunk at 12:17 PM EST
 but can you blame me? It looks as if
 Manny could be traded and ManRam
 pretty much rules. and by the way, 
 I like Pam.

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Jul 31, 2008 12:18 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

clearly I still

have much to learn.

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Jul 31, 2008 12:18 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Well

Maybe if we write stuff 

this is will wrap
 but I'm not sure
if it works.

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Jul 31, 2008 12:16 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

dude is fine

he just 

sucks at baseball

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Jul 31, 2008 12:09 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I wonder

why

this awesome formatting thing was put in the system

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Jul 31, 2008 12:04 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Because,

this is actually the sarcasm font.

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Jul 31, 2008 12:05 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

LOL

Yes, we’re very sarcastic here.

Okay, seriously do you have to type something in the first line for it to work?

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Jul 31, 2008 12:06 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

This IS fucking useless

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Jul 31, 2008 12:06 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

sarcasticizer

The concept of progress acts as a protective mechanism to shield us from the terrors of the future. - Collected sayings of Muad'Dib

by buddyball on Jul 31, 2008 12:07 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Labelly McLaballer IV

I’ll label you

in this awesome font.

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Jul 31, 2008 12:08 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

so Mr. I'm so a labeller

I saw 160 comments on this thread and thought that there must be a lot more trade action going on than I am hearing about. Well, take out the 100 comments on the use of the sarchasm font and the numbers make more sense.

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by buddyball on Jul 31, 2008 12:10 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You correctly

called me a moron for this. Sorry. :)

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Jul 31, 2008 12:33 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

no problem

since I haven’t figured out how to use the
@#$*x%x^% font

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by buddyball on Jul 31, 2008 1:54 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Unique New York, Unique New York

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by RoyalsRetro on Jul 31, 2008 12:03 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

uhh...

is there

really nothing going on?

Don't Stop Believing!

by KC Chris on Jul 31, 2008 12:03 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Uh..

...

yes

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Jul 31, 2008 12:10 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

How does it

interact

with a picture

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Jul 31, 2008 12:08 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

They jibe well

Will

this work?

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Jul 31, 2008 12:12 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Hmm...pic obviously has size issues

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Jul 31, 2008 12:12 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That's

what

Jenna?

said

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Jul 31, 2008 12:14 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I don't get why it would have to be

re-sized, but whatever (that’s what she said). Obviously I’m just having a special day.

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Jul 31, 2008 12:15 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Wow, just had this crazy thought...

If by some divine intervention we should sweep the Chisox, we would only be 6 games under .500, and only 8.5 games out of first….Not entirely ridiculous that we could put together a Colorodo type of winning streak and actually pull off a miracle.

Then I looked at the schedule for August….Yikes!

6-WSox
3-BSox
3-Yanks
3-Min
3-Clev
6-Det
3-Tex

Could be a very dark basement to dwell in.

Let's Go Blues!

by powderbluesfor08 on Jul 31, 2008 12:03 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

To be the best

You’ve got to beat the best.

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by RoyalsRetro on Jul 31, 2008 12:04 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Are you a Flair fan, too?

To be the Man, you’ve gotta

beat the Man

The new formatting thing

rules

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Jul 31, 2008 12:05 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Maybe you should lie down for awhile

you’ve just put yourself through a rollercoaster of Fan Emotion™.

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Jul 31, 2008 12:04 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I liked where you were going

and then you 180ed on us.

How have we done against those respective teams so far?

Don't Stop Believing!

by KC Chris on Jul 31, 2008 12:06 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Record this season so far...

WSox – 3W 6L
BSox – 0W 4L
NY – 4W 3L
Min – 2W 7L
Cle – 4W-4L
Det – 6W 3L
Tex – 2W 4L

Let's Go Blues!

by powderbluesfor08 on Jul 31, 2008 12:16 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

OK,

So, assuming a constant win rate against, we’ve got (i’m going to give us the benefit for statistically partial wins…):

6-WSox at a pace of 0.500 so 3-3 in remaining games
3-BSox at a pace of 0.000 so 0-3 in remaining games
3-Yanks at a pace of 0.571 so 2-1 in remaining games
3-Min at a pace of 0.222 so 1-2 in remaining games
3-Clev at a pace of 0.500 so 2-1 in remaining games
6-Det at a pace of 0.667 so 4-2 in remaining games
3-Tex at a pace of 0.333 so 1-2 in remaining games

Are you sure the games remaining or record against are correct? That would be 15 agianst CHI, 12 against MN, 11 against CLE, and 15 against DET. That doesn’t seem right.

If correct, our record in those games is 13-14.

Don't Stop Believing!

by KC Chris on Jul 31, 2008 12:27 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I didn't include Sept. games...

Also the Det wins came early in the year and were somewhat flukish.

Let's Go Blues!

by powderbluesfor08 on Jul 31, 2008 12:31 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

so were some of our

early season losses.

Don't Stop Believing!

by KC Chris on Jul 31, 2008 12:32 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

But seriously,

Detroit was playing way below potential, and our pitching was playing way above.

Let's Go Blues!

by powderbluesfor08 on Jul 31, 2008 12:33 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

yeah

and TPJ was playing SS. And Hideo Nomo was comign out of the pen. And Peralta was an abomination. And Yimmy was getting used against righties.

Don't Stop Believing!

by KC Chris on Jul 31, 2008 12:35 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

and i messed up the math

you’d think with advanced degree in eng…

anyway, redo:

6-WSox at a pace of 0.333 so 2-4 in remaining games
3-BSox at a pace of 0.000 so 0-3 in remaining games
3-Yanks at a pace of 0.571 so 2-1 in remaining games
3-Min at a pace of 0.222 so 1-2 in remaining games
3-Clev at a pace of 0.500 so 2-1 in remaining games
6-Det at a pace of 0.667 so 4-2 in remaining games
3-Tex at a pace of 0.333 so 1-2 in remaining games

So before September: 12-15.

Don't Stop Believing!

by KC Chris on Jul 31, 2008 12:34 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

12-15 would not be so bad but,

I’d be surprised.
Mybe if we unload Gload today.

Let's Go Blues!

by powderbluesfor08 on Jul 31, 2008 12:41 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

0-27

if we unlad Glaod. just ask GMDM.

Don't Stop Believing!

by KC Chris on Jul 31, 2008 12:46 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

How does it work?

[ ] This probably isn’t right.

by KCScuba on Jul 31, 2008 12:06 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

you need a line

ot text then a retrun

then a [space] and your next text

Don't Stop Believing!

by KC Chris on Jul 31, 2008 12:08 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

retrun retrun retrun

What?

retrun

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Jul 31, 2008 12:10 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

One Lefty off the market

Arthur Rhodes is traded to the Marlins

which is almost as impressive as

Arthur Rhodes is still in MLB

by GoBabies!! on Jul 31, 2008 12:12 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Decent return

in Gaby Hernandez. He’s got some upside.

by lordbyronk on Jul 31, 2008 12:13 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

like this?

NHZ is a moron
did it work?

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by buddyball on Jul 31, 2008 12:12 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

your point

came across

loud and clear...

try hitting preview first…

Don't Stop Believing!

by KC Chris on Jul 31, 2008 12:13 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yes

If you were trying to call me a moron.

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Jul 31, 2008 12:13 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

formatting fun

has made this the most enjoyable non-game related time-wasting open thread since

draft day

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Jul 31, 2008 12:15 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Wow,

I cant beleive how entertaining that stuff was to read

not

by Randa4life on Jul 31, 2008 12:17 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

ok how about this

Did anyone read
Jeffrey Flanagan’s fascinationg column today?
why didn’t he mention Billy Butler at first?

The concept of progress acts as a protective mechanism to shield us from the terrors of the future. - Collected sayings of Muad'Dib

by buddyball on Jul 31, 2008 12:19 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Or Ken Harvey?

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by RoyalsRetro on Jul 31, 2008 12:22 PM EDT