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Trading Deadline Extravganza Open Thread

Let's light this candle.

Although it almost always lets us down, is there any single day better than Trade Deadline Day? Sure, as fans of a seemingly permanently bad team, our annual festival of intrigue borders on something of a death-wish, with a trio of high-profile trades (Dye, Damon, Beltran) really defining the franchise over the last fifteen years. Still as Shane Costa once wrote, "u never know". Remember, for like an eighteen month period, Angel Berroa looked like a steal.

Until, or unless something major breaks, consider this your catch-all thread for everything. I'll be adding links as they come in throughout the day. If we happen to find out that some random minor leaguer is now a proud member of this fine organization, feel free to post relevant information/analysis/opinion as well. As a rule of thumb, remember that fanshots should be used for something to share, while fanposts work best if you have something to say.

Finally, not that you asked, but here's my Official Royals Review Trade Deadline Prediction Proclamation: Mahay, Grudzielanek and one stunner/out-of-nowhere guy (i.e. not Olivo) get shipped. Yes, I'm making a very meek version of a purportedly bold statement. Unfortunately, unless you've bought like 10 Royals Review Shirts, you have no right to complain.

  • The Cubs are interested in David DeJesus. Aside from the fact that a DDJ swap seems about 98% unlikely, this would certainly be a bold move by Dayton. Maybe for Pie this would be cool, but Lord help us if this goes down. That being said, the Royals aren't in a position where they can play it safe and succeed. At some point, a major risk or two is going to have to pay off for the Royals to become a 90 win team.
  • Rosenthal is up late posting updates.
  • Grudz to the Twins? Can we get Aaron Gleeman in return?
  • Late last night I passed along the Mahay to Boston for Brandon Moss rumor. You mean Dayton isn't interested in Adam Stern?
  • Dutton reports on the mental state of Mahay and Grudz. Our days of seeing Mahay's piercing blue eyes in huge pixolated pictures on the Star website may be coming to a close.
  • Supposedly the White Sox aren't gonna do anything, which either means we've been denied a reprise of the MacDougal and Sisco trades, or the Gload one, depending on your temperament. Or were those the same deal?
  • With Will Ohman supposedly the hot lefty on the market, will Dayton be able to resist the Oh-Man's seductive Brave lineage?
  • Not really a rumor, but you gotta love the Astros. The folks at Crawfish Boxes seem to have a good attitude towards things.
  • Jeff at Lookout Landing, one of my blogging heroes, calls the Marlins "crazy" for wanting to do this purported Manny deal.
  • According to SI's Jon Heyman people actually do want Adam Dunn. Don't they know that he's a loser who strikes out and hates baseball? Home runs and walks lose games. Its been proven. You win with guys like David Eckstein. Period.
  • Today is the perfect opportunity for DePodesta to announce a trade on his blog isn't it? That would have to be some kind of weird, completely unimportant landmark. Considering how much the media has screwed that guy, I'd love to see Slightly Dangerous deny everyone the precious "break" privilege.
  • Jerry Crasnick looks back at some big deals that turned out differently than expected. His number one entry is the Colon/Sizemore-Lee-Phillips trade. The funny thing is, everyone I read at the time seemed to think that trade was exactly what it became: borderline irresponsibility on Minaya's part. But hey, it was part of a decade's long plot to destroy baseball in Montreal and find the next wave of tax monies, so its all worked out. And thanks to the Nationals and their mallpark, everyone in D.C. is like a millionaire now, or something.

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This is gonna be a wild Deadline Day!

...ok, probably not.

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Jul 31, 2008 2:14 AM EDT   0 recs

But I do appreciate the bold prediction

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Jul 31, 2008 2:17 AM EDT   0 recs

Florida would be making a big mistake if they trade for Manny.

They already lead the NL in slugging, home runs and they were fourth in runs scored going into Wednesday night. Their biggest problem is defense. So why on earth would they trade for a malcontent and a rent-a-player who will hurt their defense and maybe add a few more home runs? It would be a horrible trade for Florida. They need pitching and defense.

[/serious post]

Oh, and I predict Gload will be exploding somewhere else Friday night.

Banny being Banny.

by JobDDT on Jul 31, 2008 2:22 AM EDT   0 recs

They still have a deep farm system i think it would be a great move..

Yasuhiko Yabuta is to Major League Baseball as Drew Carey is to The Price is Right

by focs on Jul 31, 2008 2:28 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

If Moore trades Gload

I’m going to fly to KC and give him a big, sloppy kiss on the lips. Unfortunately, I fear Moore’s lips will go unkissed. :(

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Jul 31, 2008 2:30 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

That's what she said

She would do anything (or anyone) for Justin

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Jul 31, 2008 2:33 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

In a heartbeat

Because Moore and Hillman wouldn’t overexpose his Gload-like hitting.

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Jul 31, 2008 2:34 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Zack greinke has been getting interest from Texas

Zack Greinke for Chris Davis… Would you do it ? i Would

He has 74 homers in the minors in his first 3 years and is in the bigs already with 10 homers in 103 AB’s

Yasuhiko Yabuta is to Major League Baseball as Drew Carey is to The Price is Right

by focs on Jul 31, 2008 2:31 AM EDT   0 recs

Trade an established great young pitcher for a prospect?

More than a few minor league phenoms have flopped in the majors. Greinke is a minor league phenom who has finally succeeded in the majors. That wouldn’t be a fair or equal trade. And it would take the organization backwards a step.

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Jul 31, 2008 2:36 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Eh. i wouldnt say by any means greinke has succeded yet.. he has shown great flashes though

Yasuhiko Yabuta is to Major League Baseball as Drew Carey is to The Price is Right

by focs on Jul 31, 2008 2:37 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

He's had much more major league success than Chris Davis

And that is the point. That is why such a trade wouldn’t be close to fair or equal.

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Jul 31, 2008 2:38 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

add grudzielanek and kinsler then ?

Yasuhiko Yabuta is to Major League Baseball as Drew Carey is to The Price is Right

by focs on Jul 31, 2008 2:40 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Rangers won't deal Kinsler

Rowdy Hardy Fan Club member.

by doublestix on Jul 31, 2008 2:40 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

He hasn't succeeded?

Greinke’s numbers right now have him as either a weak #1 or a great #2. And that means he hasn’t succeeded?

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Jul 31, 2008 9:41 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

He more than likely is..

no one is unavailable though.. some just require an offer that cant be refused

Yasuhiko Yabuta is to Major League Baseball as Drew Carey is to The Price is Right

by focs on Jul 31, 2008 2:41 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

It would take a huge, massive haul for anyone to take Greinke from us

And I don’t think anyone will give up that much. He’s just worth too much to the Royals.

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Jul 31, 2008 2:45 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

+1

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Jul 31, 2008 9:41 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Why would the Royals trade Greinke?

He is the type of guy KC is trying to keep and build around. First round pick, product of the farm system, ace potential and young. Instead, KC fans are looking to trade him for prospects who if we follow the Royals track record, won’t pan out. Greinke would be the next in the line of guys we develop and trade like Beltran, Damon, etc.

Can’t believe that DM would even consider trading Greinke even for a massive haul. And to the Rangers – ugghhh!!!

by daveyork on Jul 31, 2008 1:29 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Kila Now!

Call him up and get rid of gload

Yasuhiko Yabuta is to Major League Baseball as Drew Carey is to The Price is Right

by focs on Jul 31, 2008 2:34 AM EDT   0 recs

At this rate.. we will have an overflow thread by 6 am :D

Yasuhiko Yabuta is to Major League Baseball as Drew Carey is to The Price is Right

by focs on Jul 31, 2008 2:35 AM EDT   0 recs

Bed time I think

We’re not going to get any more info until tomorrow.

I’d be shocked if we actually made a deal to be honest.

Rowdy Hardy Fan Club member.

by doublestix on Jul 31, 2008 2:41 AM EDT   0 recs

Same unfortunately.

Yasuhiko Yabuta is to Major League Baseball as Drew Carey is to The Price is Right

by focs on Jul 31, 2008 2:41 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Anyone here any news on Hosmer ? Melville?

Yasuhiko Yabuta is to Major League Baseball as Drew Carey is to The Price is Right

by focs on Jul 31, 2008 2:42 AM EDT   0 recs

Nothing new

I don’t think we’ll get any real word on either of them until after Aug. 8. Rumors and reports say Melville is in the bag. I’d be shocked if Hosmer didn’t sign. I think by midnight on Aug. 15, both will officially be Royals.

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Jul 31, 2008 2:46 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

i wish they didnt wait this damn long... its annoying

Giavotella is already smacking balls why these guys squeeze out every dollar..

Yasuhiko Yabuta is to Major League Baseball as Drew Carey is to The Price is Right

by focs on Jul 31, 2008 2:50 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

For most players, their signing bonus is the only big payday they ever get

This is true even of first round draftees. It’s important for them to get as much as they can. If I were them, I’d hold out for as much money as possible.

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Jul 31, 2008 2:55 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

+1

The future is way too uncertain for athletes. They need to cash in as much and as soon as possible.

Chaim Mattis Keller New York City's # 1 Royals fan!

by cmkeller on Jul 31, 2008 9:45 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I also read

that even if there is a deal in place, Selig can hold up approval if it is way over slot until most others sign. Don’t know if this is true, but would make sense.

Don't Stop Believing!

by KC Chris on Jul 31, 2008 10:06 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

it is true

some have speculated that might be the case with Melville—that a deal has been in place for weeks, but that the commish has been delaying approval until more players sign.

by DarthYoshi on Jul 31, 2008 10:13 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Agreed

A few weeks won’t hurt him. Besides, Hosmer is still playing ball, so its not like he’s sitting around getting fat on ice cream.

Relive Royals History at royalsretro.blogspot.com

by RoyalsRetro on Jul 31, 2008 10:43 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I doubt anyone's still awake

but! I’m officially trying beer. We have boulevard wheat and bud select.

We’ll see how this goes or if I just stick with the bacardi raz.

Listen to the MUSTN'Ts, child Listen to the DON'Ts Listen to the SHOULDN'Ts, The IMPOSSIBLEs, the WON'Ts Listen to the NEVER HAVEs Then listen close to me-- Anything can happen, child, ANYTHING can be --Shel Silverstein

by loyal2theroyals on Jul 31, 2008 2:54 AM EDT   0 recs

Loyal2theroyals turned 21 earlier this year

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Jul 31, 2008 3:26 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

may 1st!

and billybeingbilly…I hate beer, so this is a big step.

The bud select was DISGUSTING. Currently working on the boulevard. I’ve been pawning off the stuff I don’t like on my guy friend, and will probably go back to the bacardi raz after this sip xD

Listen to the MUSTN'Ts, child Listen to the DON'Ts Listen to the SHOULDN'Ts, The IMPOSSIBLEs, the WON'Ts Listen to the NEVER HAVEs Then listen close to me-- Anything can happen, child, ANYTHING can be --Shel Silverstein

by loyal2theroyals on Jul 31, 2008 3:41 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Be careful mixing beer and liquor

The old adage is: Liquor before beer, you’re in the clear. Beer before liquor, you’re going to get sicker.

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Jul 31, 2008 3:46 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

It's all irrelevant

as long as you drink a quart of gatorade after you’re done getting smashed!

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on Jul 31, 2008 3:47 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

That does make your vomit a more interesting color

I prefer blue.

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Jul 31, 2008 3:48 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

My post-alcohol OPS when using the gatorade strategy

is 5.000. No hangovers, no praying before the porcelain god.

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on Jul 31, 2008 3:50 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

i drink lots of water

no hangovers, and i’ve never had enough in me to need to vomit.

because i’m smart!

Listen to the MUSTN'Ts, child Listen to the DON'Ts Listen to the SHOULDN'Ts, The IMPOSSIBLEs, the WON'Ts Listen to the NEVER HAVEs Then listen close to me-- Anything can happen, child, ANYTHING can be --Shel Silverstein

by loyal2theroyals on Jul 31, 2008 3:51 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Pfft

Getting drunk isn’t about being smart! It’s about having an excuse to be stupid!

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on Jul 31, 2008 3:52 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Pfft

Some of us don’t need an excuse to be stupid.

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Jul 31, 2008 3:52 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

...not pointing any fingers

buuuuut…

Listen to the MUSTN'Ts, child Listen to the DON'Ts Listen to the SHOULDN'Ts, The IMPOSSIBLEs, the WON'Ts Listen to the NEVER HAVEs Then listen close to me-- Anything can happen, child, ANYTHING can be --Shel Silverstein

by loyal2theroyals on Jul 31, 2008 3:53 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I do

My neurosis is the fear of embarrassing myself

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on Jul 31, 2008 3:53 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

mine is needles!

not a fan of vaccines and the like at allllll

Listen to the MUSTN'Ts, child Listen to the DON'Ts Listen to the SHOULDN'Ts, The IMPOSSIBLEs, the WON'Ts Listen to the NEVER HAVEs Then listen close to me-- Anything can happen, child, ANYTHING can be --Shel Silverstein

by loyal2theroyals on Jul 31, 2008 3:54 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

i have a fear of failure

so if I get smashed, and then do whatever it is (lax game, rock show, etc… ) if I screw up… “The liquor got my mind!” Viola! Instant excuse. It makes getting through a day at work hard though…

Don't Stop Believing!

by KC Chris on Jul 31, 2008 10:09 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

+1

TPJ...you're dead to me

by billybeingbilly on Jul 31, 2008 3:56 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

i dont get hungover...

and i cant believe you’re allowed to be 21 and never drink beer…but select sucks ass…bud light is my beer of choice for heavy drinking of beer…but boulevard is awesome….

TPJ...you're dead to me

by billybeingbilly on Jul 31, 2008 3:56 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

i can't imagine that hangovers would be particularly fun

and I have drank beer. I just haven’t got through one entire one by myself yet! Shush.

I think if I was desperate and had good food and didn’t have the option of the alcopops at my fingertips I would be way okay with boulevard. I just prefer to drink something else!

And technically, according to this bottle, I am drinking flavored beer, so I do like beer and there :P

Listen to the MUSTN'Ts, child Listen to the DON'Ts Listen to the SHOULDN'Ts, The IMPOSSIBLEs, the WON'Ts Listen to the NEVER HAVEs Then listen close to me-- Anything can happen, child, ANYTHING can be --Shel Silverstein

by loyal2theroyals on Jul 31, 2008 3:59 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

...i still have not been to pine street

but to be fair none of my friends do the crazy paryting stuff so.

I think i’m going tomorrow with my friend Mudit! it’s his 21st today (well…as in midnight today), and he’s the reason I’m drinking right nowwww. We’ll see how pine street goes.

Listen to the MUSTN'Ts, child Listen to the DON'Ts Listen to the SHOULDN'Ts, The IMPOSSIBLEs, the WON'Ts Listen to the NEVER HAVEs Then listen close to me-- Anything can happen, child, ANYTHING can be --Shel Silverstein

by loyal2theroyals on Jul 31, 2008 4:09 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

also!

how old are you billybeingbilly?

Listen to the MUSTN'Ts, child Listen to the DON'Ts Listen to the SHOULDN'Ts, The IMPOSSIBLEs, the WON'Ts Listen to the NEVER HAVEs Then listen close to me-- Anything can happen, child, ANYTHING can be --Shel Silverstein

by loyal2theroyals on Jul 31, 2008 4:10 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

22...most of the girls i know down there just graduated...

i know a couple who are 21ish

TPJ...you're dead to me

by billybeingbilly on Jul 31, 2008 4:13 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

fun fun

I should be up for graduating this spring, but I’m way behind in my major. I think I’m looking at fall 2010 before I student teach.

Listen to the MUSTN'Ts, child Listen to the DON'Ts Listen to the SHOULDN'Ts, The IMPOSSIBLEs, the WON'Ts Listen to the NEVER HAVEs Then listen close to me-- Anything can happen, child, ANYTHING can be --Shel Silverstein

by loyal2theroyals on Jul 31, 2008 4:20 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

as a father of two college aged daughters

my question is: “Have you told loyal2sdad about this calendar?”

The concept of progress acts as a protective mechanism to shield us from the terrors of the future. - Collected sayings of Muad'Dib

by buddyball on Jul 31, 2008 12:04 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

he made me sit down and show him just last weekend

I had to figure it out for an education requirement (yeah, requirement…crazy), so we looked at it to see if I could bump up my time any and have it be cost effective. There wasn’t. Sigh.

Listen to the MUSTN'Ts, child Listen to the DON'Ts Listen to the SHOULDN'Ts, The IMPOSSIBLEs, the WON'Ts Listen to the NEVER HAVEs Then listen close to me-- Anything can happen, child, ANYTHING can be --Shel Silverstein

by loyal2theroyals on Jul 31, 2008 1:00 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

wow - you got credit for doing that?

The concept of progress acts as a protective mechanism to shield us from the terrors of the future. - Collected sayings of Muad'Dib

by buddyball on Jul 31, 2008 1:51 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

But you have a strong constitution and transcendent grit

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Jul 31, 2008 3:51 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I also make sure I eat before I start running up those

three-digit bar tabs.

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on Jul 31, 2008 3:52 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

boulevard is the best i've had

but still too watery. I will happily stick with my bitch beers and fruity mixes!

Listen to the MUSTN'Ts, child Listen to the DON'Ts Listen to the SHOULDN'Ts, The IMPOSSIBLEs, the WON'Ts Listen to the NEVER HAVEs Then listen close to me-- Anything can happen, child, ANYTHING can be --Shel Silverstein

by loyal2theroyals on Jul 31, 2008 3:49 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I swear

I’m going to have to come back home and force a slightly cool but not cold bottle of Yuengling on you.

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on Jul 31, 2008 3:51 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

what the hell is yuengling?

Listen to the MUSTN'Ts, child Listen to the DON'Ts Listen to the SHOULDN'Ts, The IMPOSSIBLEs, the WON'Ts Listen to the NEVER HAVEs Then listen close to me-- Anything can happen, child, ANYTHING can be --Shel Silverstein

by loyal2theroyals on Jul 31, 2008 3:53 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

The only beer I like

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yuengling

It’s heavy but not too thick (as opposed to the watery slop you apparently keep trying), it’s got a slightly fruity bouquet, and it doesn’t taste how one imagines horse piss would taste.

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on Jul 31, 2008 3:56 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Oh, and

it’s also a nice rich brownish-red, rather than that piss yellow crap. Real beer shouldn’t be yellow anyway.

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on Jul 31, 2008 3:58 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

got it

I will maybe eventually someday try it. Maybe.

Listen to the MUSTN'Ts, child Listen to the DON'Ts Listen to the SHOULDN'Ts, The IMPOSSIBLEs, the WON'Ts Listen to the NEVER HAVEs Then listen close to me-- Anything can happen, child, ANYTHING can be --Shel Silverstein

by loyal2theroyals on Jul 31, 2008 4:00 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I don't think it's available west of Cincy, alas

Obviously, this has to be rectified

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on Jul 31, 2008 4:01 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

obviously

maybe if I ever go to a game on the east coast i’ll be able to find it…

Listen to the MUSTN'Ts, child Listen to the DON'Ts Listen to the SHOULDN'Ts, The IMPOSSIBLEs, the WON'Ts Listen to the NEVER HAVEs Then listen close to me-- Anything can happen, child, ANYTHING can be --Shel Silverstein

by loyal2theroyals on Jul 31, 2008 4:02 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Bass is a good British lager

Some flavor but not too heavy or bitter.

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Jul 31, 2008 4:10 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

and its imbev...

which is my favorite company in t he world…just