Trading Deadline Extravganza Open Thread
by Freneau on Jul 31, 2008 2:12 AM EDT
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Although it almost always lets us down, is there any single day better than Trade Deadline Day? Sure, as fans of a seemingly permanently bad team, our annual festival of intrigue borders on something of a death-wish, with a trio of high-profile trades (Dye, Damon, Beltran) really defining the franchise over the last fifteen years. Still as Shane Costa once wrote, "u never know". Remember, for like an eighteen month period, Angel Berroa looked like a steal.
Until, or unless something major breaks, consider this your catch-all thread for everything. I'll be adding links as they come in throughout the day. If we happen to find out that some random minor leaguer is now a proud member of this fine organization, feel free to post relevant information/analysis/opinion as well. As a rule of thumb, remember that fanshots should be used for something to share, while fanposts work best if you have something to say.
Finally, not that you asked, but here's my Official Royals Review Trade Deadline Prediction Proclamation: Mahay, Grudzielanek and one stunner/out-of-nowhere guy (i.e. not Olivo) get shipped. Yes, I'm making a very meek version of a purportedly bold statement. Unfortunately, unless you've bought like 10 Royals Review Shirts, you have no right to complain.
- The Cubs are interested in David DeJesus. Aside from the fact that a DDJ swap seems about 98% unlikely, this would certainly be a bold move by Dayton. Maybe for Pie this would be cool, but Lord help us if this goes down. That being said, the Royals aren't in a position where they can play it safe and succeed. At some point, a major risk or two is going to have to pay off for the Royals to become a 90 win team.
- Rosenthal is up late posting updates.
- Grudz to the Twins? Can we get Aaron Gleeman in return?
- Late last night I passed along the Mahay to Boston for Brandon Moss rumor. You mean Dayton isn't interested in Adam Stern?
- Dutton reports on the mental state of Mahay and Grudz. Our days of seeing Mahay's piercing blue eyes in huge pixolated pictures on the Star website may be coming to a close.
- Supposedly the White Sox aren't gonna do anything, which either means we've been denied a reprise of the MacDougal and Sisco trades, or the Gload one, depending on your temperament. Or were those the same deal?
- With Will Ohman supposedly the hot lefty on the market, will Dayton be able to resist the Oh-Man's seductive Brave lineage?
- Not really a rumor, but you gotta love the Astros. The folks at Crawfish Boxes seem to have a good attitude towards things.
- Jeff at Lookout Landing, one of my blogging heroes, calls the Marlins "crazy" for wanting to do this purported Manny deal.
- According to SI's Jon Heyman people actually do want Adam Dunn. Don't they know that he's a loser who strikes out and hates baseball? Home runs and walks lose games. Its been proven. You win with guys like David Eckstein. Period.
- Today is the perfect opportunity for DePodesta to announce a trade on his blog isn't it? That would have to be some kind of weird, completely unimportant landmark. Considering how much the media has screwed that guy, I'd love to see Slightly Dangerous deny everyone the precious "break" privilege.
- Jerry Crasnick looks back at some big deals that turned out differently than expected. His number one entry is the Colon/Sizemore-Lee-Phillips trade. The funny thing is, everyone I read at the time seemed to think that trade was exactly what it became: borderline irresponsibility on Minaya's part. But hey, it was part of a decade's long plot to destroy baseball in Montreal and find the next wave of tax monies, so its all worked out. And thanks to the Nationals and their mallpark, everyone in D.C. is like a millionaire now, or something.
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This is gonna be a wild Deadline Day!
...ok, probably not.
This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.
Florida would be making a big mistake if they trade for Manny.
They already lead the NL in slugging, home runs and they were fourth in runs scored going into Wednesday night. Their biggest problem is defense. So why on earth would they trade for a malcontent and a rent-a-player who will hurt their defense and maybe add a few more home runs? It would be a horrible trade for Florida. They need pitching and defense.
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Oh, and I predict Gload will be exploding somewhere else Friday night.
Banny being Banny.
They still have a deep farm system i think it would be a great move..
Yasuhiko Yabuta is to Major League Baseball as Drew Carey is to The Price is Right
If Moore trades Gload
I’m going to fly to KC and give him a big, sloppy kiss on the lips. Unfortunately, I fear Moore’s lips will go unkissed. :(
This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.
by Scott McKinney on Jul 31, 2008 2:30 AM EDT up reply actions
That's what she said
She would do anything (or anyone) for Justin
OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG
by Matt Klaassen on Jul 31, 2008 2:33 AM EDT up reply actions
In a heartbeat
Because Moore and Hillman wouldn’t overexpose his Gload-like hitting.
This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.
by Scott McKinney on Jul 31, 2008 2:34 AM EDT up reply actions
Zack greinke has been getting interest from Texas
Zack Greinke for Chris Davis… Would you do it ? i Would
He has 74 homers in the minors in his first 3 years and is in the bigs already with 10 homers in 103 AB’s
Yasuhiko Yabuta is to Major League Baseball as Drew Carey is to The Price is Right
Trade an established great young pitcher for a prospect?
More than a few minor league phenoms have flopped in the majors. Greinke is a minor league phenom who has finally succeeded in the majors. That wouldn’t be a fair or equal trade. And it would take the organization backwards a step.
This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.
by Scott McKinney on Jul 31, 2008 2:36 AM EDT up reply actions
Eh. i wouldnt say by any means greinke has succeded yet.. he has shown great flashes though
Yasuhiko Yabuta is to Major League Baseball as Drew Carey is to The Price is Right
He's had much more major league success than Chris Davis
And that is the point. That is why such a trade wouldn’t be close to fair or equal.
This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.
by Scott McKinney on Jul 31, 2008 2:38 AM EDT up reply actions
add grudzielanek and kinsler then ?
Yasuhiko Yabuta is to Major League Baseball as Drew Carey is to The Price is Right
He hasn't succeeded?
Greinke’s numbers right now have him as either a weak #1 or a great #2. And that means he hasn’t succeeded?
A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.
He more than likely is..
no one is unavailable though.. some just require an offer that cant be refused
Yasuhiko Yabuta is to Major League Baseball as Drew Carey is to The Price is Right
It would take a huge, massive haul for anyone to take Greinke from us
And I don’t think anyone will give up that much. He’s just worth too much to the Royals.
This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.
by Scott McKinney on Jul 31, 2008 2:45 AM EDT up reply actions
Why would the Royals trade Greinke?
He is the type of guy KC is trying to keep and build around. First round pick, product of the farm system, ace potential and young. Instead, KC fans are looking to trade him for prospects who if we follow the Royals track record, won’t pan out. Greinke would be the next in the line of guys we develop and trade like Beltran, Damon, etc.
Can’t believe that DM would even consider trading Greinke even for a massive haul. And to the Rangers – ugghhh!!!
the only way i'd accept it is...feliz, davis + one of the catchers..
ramirez, teagarden, or salty
TPJ...you're dead to me
by billybeingbilly on Jul 31, 2008 3:16 AM EDT up reply actions
Kila Now!
Call him up and get rid of gload
Yasuhiko Yabuta is to Major League Baseball as Drew Carey is to The Price is Right
At this rate.. we will have an overflow thread by 6 am :D
Yasuhiko Yabuta is to Major League Baseball as Drew Carey is to The Price is Right
Bed time I think
We’re not going to get any more info until tomorrow.
I’d be shocked if we actually made a deal to be honest.
Rowdy Hardy Fan Club member.
Same unfortunately.
Yasuhiko Yabuta is to Major League Baseball as Drew Carey is to The Price is Right
Anyone here any news on Hosmer ? Melville?
Yasuhiko Yabuta is to Major League Baseball as Drew Carey is to The Price is Right
Nothing new
I don’t think we’ll get any real word on either of them until after Aug. 8. Rumors and reports say Melville is in the bag. I’d be shocked if Hosmer didn’t sign. I think by midnight on Aug. 15, both will officially be Royals.
This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.
by Scott McKinney on Jul 31, 2008 2:46 AM EDT up reply actions
i wish they didnt wait this damn long... its annoying
Giavotella is already smacking balls why these guys squeeze out every dollar..
Yasuhiko Yabuta is to Major League Baseball as Drew Carey is to The Price is Right
For most players, their signing bonus is the only big payday they ever get
This is true even of first round draftees. It’s important for them to get as much as they can. If I were them, I’d hold out for as much money as possible.
This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.
by Scott McKinney on Jul 31, 2008 2:55 AM EDT up reply actions
I also read
that even if there is a deal in place, Selig can hold up approval if it is way over slot until most others sign. Don’t know if this is true, but would make sense.
Don't Stop Believing!
it is true
some have speculated that might be the case with Melville—that a deal has been in place for weeks, but that the commish has been delaying approval until more players sign.
Agreed
A few weeks won’t hurt him. Besides, Hosmer is still playing ball, so its not like he’s sitting around getting fat on ice cream.
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by RoyalsRetro on Jul 31, 2008 10:43 AM EDT up reply actions
I doubt anyone's still awake
but! I’m officially trying beer. We have boulevard wheat and bud select.
We’ll see how this goes or if I just stick with the bacardi raz.
Listen to the MUSTN'Ts, child Listen to the DON'Ts Listen to the SHOULDN'Ts, The IMPOSSIBLEs, the WON'Ts Listen to the NEVER HAVEs Then listen close to me-- Anything can happen, child, ANYTHING can be --Shel Silverstein
by loyal2theroyals on Jul 31, 2008 2:54 AM EDT reply actions
how old are you?...i feel like you're my age...and you're just NOW trying beer?
TPJ...you're dead to me
by billybeingbilly on Jul 31, 2008 3:18 AM EDT up reply actions
Loyal2theroyals turned 21 earlier this year
This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.
by Scott McKinney on Jul 31, 2008 3:26 AM EDT up reply actions
may 1st!
and billybeingbilly…I hate beer, so this is a big step.
The bud select was DISGUSTING. Currently working on the boulevard. I’ve been pawning off the stuff I don’t like on my guy friend, and will probably go back to the bacardi raz after this sip xD
Listen to the MUSTN'Ts, child Listen to the DON'Ts Listen to the SHOULDN'Ts, The IMPOSSIBLEs, the WON'Ts Listen to the NEVER HAVEs Then listen close to me-- Anything can happen, child, ANYTHING can be --Shel Silverstein
by loyal2theroyals on Jul 31, 2008 3:41 AM EDT up reply actions
Be careful mixing beer and liquor
The old adage is: Liquor before beer, you’re in the clear. Beer before liquor, you’re going to get sicker.
This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.
by Scott McKinney on Jul 31, 2008 3:46 AM EDT up reply actions
It's all irrelevant
as long as you drink a quart of gatorade after you’re done getting smashed!
Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.
That does make your vomit a more interesting color
I prefer blue.
This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.
by Scott McKinney on Jul 31, 2008 3:48 AM EDT up reply actions
My post-alcohol OPS when using the gatorade strategy
is 5.000. No hangovers, no praying before the porcelain god.
Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.
i drink lots of water
no hangovers, and i’ve never had enough in me to need to vomit.
because i’m smart!
Listen to the MUSTN'Ts, child Listen to the DON'Ts Listen to the SHOULDN'Ts, The IMPOSSIBLEs, the WON'Ts Listen to the NEVER HAVEs Then listen close to me-- Anything can happen, child, ANYTHING can be --Shel Silverstein
by loyal2theroyals on Jul 31, 2008 3:51 AM EDT up reply actions
Pfft
Getting drunk isn’t about being smart! It’s about having an excuse to be stupid!
Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.
Pfft
Some of us don’t need an excuse to be stupid.
This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.
by Scott McKinney on Jul 31, 2008 3:52 AM EDT up reply actions
...not pointing any fingers
buuuuut…
Listen to the MUSTN'Ts, child Listen to the DON'Ts Listen to the SHOULDN'Ts, The IMPOSSIBLEs, the WON'Ts Listen to the NEVER HAVEs Then listen close to me-- Anything can happen, child, ANYTHING can be --Shel Silverstein
by loyal2theroyals on Jul 31, 2008 3:53 AM EDT up reply actions
mine is needles!
not a fan of vaccines and the like at allllll
Listen to the MUSTN'Ts, child Listen to the DON'Ts Listen to the SHOULDN'Ts, The IMPOSSIBLEs, the WON'Ts Listen to the NEVER HAVEs Then listen close to me-- Anything can happen, child, ANYTHING can be --Shel Silverstein
by loyal2theroyals on Jul 31, 2008 3:54 AM EDT up reply actions
i have a fear of failure
so if I get smashed, and then do whatever it is (lax game, rock show, etc… ) if I screw up… “The liquor got my mind!” Viola! Instant excuse. It makes getting through a day at work hard though…
Don't Stop Believing!
i dont get hungover...
and i cant believe you’re allowed to be 21 and never drink beer…but select sucks ass…bud light is my beer of choice for heavy drinking of beer…but boulevard is awesome….
TPJ...you're dead to me
by billybeingbilly on Jul 31, 2008 3:56 AM EDT up reply actions
i can't imagine that hangovers would be particularly fun
and I have drank beer. I just haven’t got through one entire one by myself yet! Shush.
I think if I was desperate and had good food and didn’t have the option of the alcopops at my fingertips I would be way okay with boulevard. I just prefer to drink something else!
And technically, according to this bottle, I am drinking flavored beer, so I do like beer and there :P
Listen to the MUSTN'Ts, child Listen to the DON'Ts Listen to the SHOULDN'Ts, The IMPOSSIBLEs, the WON'Ts Listen to the NEVER HAVEs Then listen close to me-- Anything can happen, child, ANYTHING can be --Shel Silverstein
by loyal2theroyals on Jul 31, 2008 3:59 AM EDT up reply actions
ive been to the burg a few times...and very rarely remember leaving pine street
TPJ...you're dead to me
by billybeingbilly on Jul 31, 2008 4:06 AM EDT up reply actions
...i still have not been to pine street
but to be fair none of my friends do the crazy paryting stuff so.
I think i’m going tomorrow with my friend Mudit! it’s his 21st today (well…as in midnight today), and he’s the reason I’m drinking right nowwww. We’ll see how pine street goes.
Listen to the MUSTN'Ts, child Listen to the DON'Ts Listen to the SHOULDN'Ts, The IMPOSSIBLEs, the WON'Ts Listen to the NEVER HAVEs Then listen close to me-- Anything can happen, child, ANYTHING can be --Shel Silverstein
by loyal2theroyals on Jul 31, 2008 4:09 AM EDT up reply actions
also!
how old are you billybeingbilly?
Listen to the MUSTN'Ts, child Listen to the DON'Ts Listen to the SHOULDN'Ts, The IMPOSSIBLEs, the WON'Ts Listen to the NEVER HAVEs Then listen close to me-- Anything can happen, child, ANYTHING can be --Shel Silverstein
by loyal2theroyals on Jul 31, 2008 4:10 AM EDT up reply actions
22...most of the girls i know down there just graduated...
i know a couple who are 21ish
TPJ...you're dead to me
by billybeingbilly on Jul 31, 2008 4:13 AM EDT up reply actions
fun fun
I should be up for graduating this spring, but I’m way behind in my major. I think I’m looking at fall 2010 before I student teach.
Listen to the MUSTN'Ts, child Listen to the DON'Ts Listen to the SHOULDN'Ts, The IMPOSSIBLEs, the WON'Ts Listen to the NEVER HAVEs Then listen close to me-- Anything can happen, child, ANYTHING can be --Shel Silverstein
by loyal2theroyals on Jul 31, 2008 4:20 AM EDT up reply actions
as a father of two college aged daughters
my question is: “Have you told loyal2sdad about this calendar?”
The concept of progress acts as a protective mechanism to shield us from the terrors of the future. - Collected sayings of Muad'Dib
he made me sit down and show him just last weekend
I had to figure it out for an education requirement (yeah, requirement…crazy), so we looked at it to see if I could bump up my time any and have it be cost effective. There wasn’t. Sigh.
Listen to the MUSTN'Ts, child Listen to the DON'Ts Listen to the SHOULDN'Ts, The IMPOSSIBLEs, the WON'Ts Listen to the NEVER HAVEs Then listen close to me-- Anything can happen, child, ANYTHING can be --Shel Silverstein
by loyal2theroyals on Jul 31, 2008 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions
wow - you got credit for doing that?
The concept of progress acts as a protective mechanism to shield us from the terrors of the future. - Collected sayings of Muad'Dib
But you have a strong constitution and transcendent grit
This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.
by Scott McKinney on Jul 31, 2008 3:51 AM EDT up reply actions
I also make sure I eat before I start running up those
three-digit bar tabs.
Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.
boulevard is the best i've had
but still too watery. I will happily stick with my bitch beers and fruity mixes!
Listen to the MUSTN'Ts, child Listen to the DON'Ts Listen to the SHOULDN'Ts, The IMPOSSIBLEs, the WON'Ts Listen to the NEVER HAVEs Then listen close to me-- Anything can happen, child, ANYTHING can be --Shel Silverstein
by loyal2theroyals on Jul 31, 2008 3:49 AM EDT up reply actions
I swear
I’m going to have to come back home and force a slightly cool but not cold bottle of Yuengling on you.
Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.
what the hell is yuengling?
Listen to the MUSTN'Ts, child Listen to the DON'Ts Listen to the SHOULDN'Ts, The IMPOSSIBLEs, the WON'Ts Listen to the NEVER HAVEs Then listen close to me-- Anything can happen, child, ANYTHING can be --Shel Silverstein
by loyal2theroyals on Jul 31, 2008 3:53 AM EDT up reply actions
The only beer I like
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yuengling
It’s heavy but not too thick (as opposed to the watery slop you apparently keep trying), it’s got a slightly fruity bouquet, and it doesn’t taste how one imagines horse piss would taste.
Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.
Oh, and
it’s also a nice rich brownish-red, rather than that piss yellow crap. Real beer shouldn’t be yellow anyway.
Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.
got it
I will maybe eventually someday try it. Maybe.
Listen to the MUSTN'Ts, child Listen to the DON'Ts Listen to the SHOULDN'Ts, The IMPOSSIBLEs, the WON'Ts Listen to the NEVER HAVEs Then listen close to me-- Anything can happen, child, ANYTHING can be --Shel Silverstein
by loyal2theroyals on Jul 31, 2008 4:00 AM EDT up reply actions
I don't think it's available west of Cincy, alas
Obviously, this has to be rectified
Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.
obviously
maybe if I ever go to a game on the east coast i’ll be able to find it…
Listen to the MUSTN'Ts, child Listen to the DON'Ts Listen to the SHOULDN'Ts, The IMPOSSIBLEs, the WON'Ts Listen to the NEVER HAVEs Then listen close to me-- Anything can happen, child, ANYTHING can be --Shel Silverstein
by loyal2theroyals on Jul 31, 2008 4:02 AM EDT up reply actions
Bass is a good British lager
Some flavor but not too heavy or bitter.
This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.
by Scott McKinney on Jul 31, 2008 4:10 AM EDT up reply actions
and its imbev...
which is my favorite company in t he world…just b/c they took the only thing STL had going for them
TPJ...you're dead to me
by billybeingbilly on Jul 31, 2008 4:14 AM EDT up reply actions
+1
hate hate hate stl. I hear they’re going to new uniforms soon to commemorate the transfer, though.
Listen to the MUSTN'Ts, child Listen to the DON'Ts Listen to the SHOULDN'Ts, The IMPOSSIBLEs, the WON'Ts Listen to the NEVER HAVEs Then listen close to me-- Anything can happen, child, ANYTHING can be --Shel Silverstein
by loyal2theroyals on Jul 31, 2008 4:21 AM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
To alcohol!
The cause of, and solution to, all life’s problems
Chaim Mattis Keller New York City's # 1 Royals fan!
i think it's official
that I don’t either!
Listen to the MUSTN'Ts, child Listen to the DON'Ts Listen to the SHOULDN'Ts, The IMPOSSIBLEs, the WON'Ts Listen to the NEVER HAVEs Then listen close to me-- Anything can happen, child, ANYTHING can be --Shel Silverstein
by loyal2theroyals on Jul 31, 2008 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions
poor chippy
he was a good man.
or something like that :(
Listen to the MUSTN'Ts, child Listen to the DON'Ts Listen to the SHOULDN'Ts, The IMPOSSIBLEs, the WON'Ts Listen to the NEVER HAVEs Then listen close to me-- Anything can happen, child, ANYTHING can be --Shel Silverstein
by loyal2theroyals on Jul 31, 2008 3:42 AM EDT up reply actions
I don't D:
when was this agian?
My knowledge stops at 2005…and even 05 is sketchy so…
Listen to the MUSTN'Ts, child Listen to the DON'Ts Listen to the SHOULDN'Ts, The IMPOSSIBLEs, the WON'Ts Listen to the NEVER HAVEs Then listen close to me-- Anything can happen, child, ANYTHING can be --Shel Silverstein
by loyal2theroyals on Jul 31, 2008 3:43 AM EDT up reply actions
You'd better be.
I’ll make myself feel better by watching the immortal Dee Brown (more nightmare fuel) roam the outfield for someone else’s AAA team tomorrow.
(He’s a Salt Lake Bee these days, which Porcus and I totally didn’t know until he came up to bat against Omaha tonight)
I almost went to a salt lake stingers game!
that was like…back when I lived in Utah, but still. If I ever go back for a visit in teh summer, it’s in my plans.
Listen to the MUSTN'Ts, child Listen to the DON'Ts Listen to the SHOULDN'Ts, The IMPOSSIBLEs, the WON'Ts Listen to the NEVER HAVEs Then listen close to me-- Anything can happen, child, ANYTHING can be --Shel Silverstein
by loyal2theroyals on Jul 31, 2008 3:49 AM EDT up reply actions
Dayton should shoehorn himself in on the Manny deal
get someone from Florida, move someone to Pittsburgh
I just woke up, pulled my laptop over from my shelf, and started reading
I don’t know what is a worse testament to who I am as a person—the fact that I am checking RR at 7:30 am within moments of waking up, or that I’m pissed that I missed out on another “Loyal2 hates beer” discussion here.
It's usually the first site I check in the morning as well
so you’re in good company.
It sounds like the White Sox
just acquired Ken Griffey Jr. that gives them another bat, but I would figure they would go after a starting pitcher if they go after anybody. I hate the Sox.
Just waiting for Griffey's approval, sounds like.
My mother's basement is better than YOUR mother's basement!!
by Royal Kingdom on Jul 31, 2008 9:11 AM EDT up reply actions
The encouraging thing
is with the Sox and Tigers playing for now, they are depleting their farm systems, so hopefully they will be getting weaker as their players age as the Royals get stronger as their players continue to grow.
A very good point. Ah, the cyclical nature of baseball,
its amazing the Royals have managed to stay bad for so long.
My mother's basement is better than YOUR mother's basement!!
by Royal Kingdom on Jul 31, 2008 9:17 AM EDT up reply actions
indeed.
My mother's basement is better than YOUR mother's basement!!
by Royal Kingdom on Jul 31, 2008 9:19 AM EDT up reply actions
I'm pretty sure Dylan had the Royals in mind when he wrote that.
My mother's basement is better than YOUR mother's basement!!
by Royal Kingdom on Jul 31, 2008 9:48 AM EDT up reply actions
So it's time we admit
that the waters around us have grown?
And that, pretty soon, we’ll be drenched to the bone?
A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.
And theres no tellin who
That its namin.
For the loser now
Will be later to win
My mother's basement is better than YOUR mother's basement!!
by Royal Kingdom on Jul 31, 2008 10:33 AM EDT up reply actions
Either the Royals or just getting laid
“The chicks always fall for this ‘social conscience’ crap.”
Indeed they do, Bob, indeed they do.
OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG
by Matt Klaassen on Jul 31, 2008 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions
Griffy coming to AL Central
The Dayton Daily News confirms this situation. Hal McCoy is normally rock solid on player news.
As a Reds fan, this news brings me down. Griffy is guy you have no trouble cheering for. I hope he kills the deal. Who would want to play for the White Sox?
www.rockchalktalk.com for pretty good KU baseball coverage
Sounds like the 2b market is heating up.
If GMDM doesn’t get something out of Grudz or German, he ain’t doin’ his yob.
My mother's basement is better than YOUR mother's basement!!
The Twins have a lot of pitching prospects
even a buy low opportunity for someone like Bonser and a mid level prospect would be an OK return for two months of Grudz. If anything just freeing up the log jam at 2B would be an improvement.
depends on who the midlevel prospect is
I am not a big fan of Boof Bonser—he has declined in almost every statistical category since hitting the bigs in 2006 and has only pitched om 26 games this year (less than half are starts). Minnesota’s attempts to turn him into a reliever haven’t been terribly encouraging so far.
The Twins are one of the few teams that are genuinely in the market for a second baseman, but unfortunately, their decent prospects are heavily skewed towards pitching, just like the Royals. Assuming (with the Mahay rumor) that we are looking for OF help, the only OF prospect in the Twins’ system who might make sense in a Grudz trade is Chris Parmelee, who has some encouraging OBP and SLG stats, but is still only in A ball, and the absolute earliest he could be ready for the majors would be mid-2010, if not 2011.
Only a .239 average but coming out, he was the 2nd best HS
pure hitting prospect, sounds like he has underperformed, but still has decent upside. I’d take him for 2 months of Grud.
My mother's basement is better than YOUR mother's basement!!
by Royal Kingdom on Jul 31, 2008 9:42 AM EDT up reply actions
His OBP numbers, especially relative to his average, are very good
For whatever reason, Sickels is not a big fan of the guy. Probably a combination of the low average and stratospheric K rate.
If the Twins offered him as a part of a trade for Grud, I would be all ears as well. But I would consider him more the centerpiece of a trade than Boof Bonser. Bonser turns 27 this year, is unlikely to get much better, and the Twins already treat him like spare parts.
but his name is boof.
How can you hate on the guy?
Don't Stop Believing!
I don't hate the guy
...just his career 5.24 ERA.
Ivan Rodriguez to the Yankees
Kyle Farnsworth to the Tigers.
Wow. Um…the Yankees win the trade, I guess, but it’s hard to understate how impressed I am by this deal.
A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.
Me too
If they were giving away Pudge, I wish they would’ve let other teams know.
Farnsworth
Farnsworth has pitched very well and we all know how leaky Detroit’s bullpen is. Pudge has been solid but of course isn’t the guy he once was. Both guys are free agents in a few months. It should end up being a useful deal for both clubs although it isn’t nearly the blockbuster it might seem to the casual fan who knows the names.
by cookierojas73 on Jul 31, 2008 10:17 AM EDT up reply actions
Gah
Farnsworth gets pounded by lefties and gives up too many fly balls. “Pudge” can’t get on base anymore. I just don’t see this trade as all that much of a big deal.
A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.
Fair enough
You’re right; neither player is probably going to make a huge difference, so it’s very likely much ado about nothing. I give Detroit a very slight edge, though. Farnsworth should be helped at least a bit by going to a more spacious park, no? I see that he has given up 8 HR at Yankee Stadium vs. 3 on the road in a similar number of IP this year. And he has been pitching very well of late. The Tigers really needed a live arm and I would say that they got a pretty decent one for a really reasonable price.
I thought it was actually a pretty creative trade by the respective GMs…need for a need.
by cookierojas73 on Jul 31, 2008 10:30 AM EDT up reply actions
Not a big Pudge fan
But for the Yankees, it’s not so much that Pudge is great (although he is a league average hitter [101 OPS+], so an above-average hitting catcher0, but that they don’t have to play Jose Molina every day. And they didn’t give up much, while filling a slot that had an below-replacement level player with a good hitter for the position. I think that’s a smart trade.
OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG
by Matt Klaassen on Jul 31, 2008 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions
Is Griffey to Chicago
official? Griffey’s not WT enough to play in Chicago, too much of a pretty boy.
One man with courage makes a majority - Andrew Jackson
by Home Run Tony Cogan on Jul 31, 2008 10:11 AM EDT reply actions
Well, if "pretty boy" equals "decent human being" then yeah.
Do you know who would fit in with the White Sox’ perfectly?
This guy!
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by James Quinn on Jul 31, 2008 10:30 AM EDT up reply actions
do these slacks
make my ass look fat?
One man with courage makes a majority - Andrew Jackson
by Home Run Tony Cogan on Jul 31, 2008 10:32 AM EDT up reply actions
it's not the slacks that make your ass look fat...
Don't Stop Believing!
Grudz probably won't get traded today
he’s not extremely desirable. If he moves it will probably be one of those slipping thru the waiver wire type deals after the deadline- quoting Stark
Every fight is a food fight when you’re a cannibal.
-- Demetri Martin
Will Grudz be a Type A Free Agent?
If he finishes the year in KC the decision to offer him arbitration or not will be a tough call if he makes the A list.
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by James Quinn on Jul 31, 2008 10:32 AM EDT up reply actions
wouldn't he
accept the arb offer if we gave it to him? I’m assuming they could discuss with him ahead of time, but I’d hate to offer, have him accept then we’re stuck with him for another year.
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by Home Run Tony Cogan on Jul 31, 2008 10:34 AM EDT up reply actions
It is a possiblity.
If he turned it down the Royals would get another early draft pick. If he accepted it, would another year of Grudz really be a bad thing for the team? The guy can still play. He helps the team. He isn’t the future, but he isn’t the problem either.
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by James Quinn on Jul 31, 2008 10:38 AM EDT up reply actions
he cannot
catch a fly ball in shallow right field anymore.
Don't Stop Believing!
He won’t stay. He wants to be on a contending team
Don't forget to send your broken maples to the US Forest Service.
i wan to be on a contending team too
doesn’t mean I’ll got to.
Don't Stop Believing!
It wouldn't be a terrible thing for the royals if Grudz was on the
team next year but I really believe Callaspo could provide everything he can at this stage in his career.
Every fight is a food fight when you’re a cannibal.
-- Demetri Martin
i like Grudz
but we need to move on.
Don't Stop Believing!
Including sobriety?
Chaim Mattis Keller New York City's # 1 Royals fan!
The boy can hit!
OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG
by Matt Klaassen on Jul 31, 2008 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions
did you mean ? I hope?
The concept of progress acts as a protective mechanism to shield us from the terrors of the future. - Collected sayings of Muad'Dib
the should have read (rimshot)
The concept of progress acts as a protective mechanism to shield us from the terrors of the future. - Collected sayings of Muad'Dib
What about Mahay
next year? Assumign he has similar performance…
So that could weigh in to his trade value.
Don't Stop Believing!
Those rankings are based on the performance of the player over the last two years.
So we really couldn’t guess at this point about Mahay. It is pretty tough for a middle reliever to get A status I think.
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by James Quinn on Jul 31, 2008 10:40 AM EDT up reply actions
is it reasonable
to think he could repeat his performance from this year to next? If so, would he qualify for A/B status?
Don't Stop Believing!
I don't know, but David Riske only got a B ranking after last year.
I think it is pretty hard for a middle reliever to get that A ranking.
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by James Quinn on Jul 31, 2008 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions
You have to be a "Proven Closer"
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by RoyalsRetro on Jul 31, 2008 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions
According to the Elias rankings
Grudz’s 2007 performance was only good enough for Type B classification, so I don’t know if he’ll have done enough to move up to Type A. My guess is he stays Type B.
If that were the case, I don't think draft compensation will play a role in the decision to keep him or not.
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by James Quinn on Jul 31, 2008 10:41 AM EDT up reply actions
I agree
Especially if we have to offer him arbitration in order to get that compensatory pick.
Thanks
Good work with the links RR and the rumors/comments everyone. Already through two hours of “work” with some help from the RoyalsReview community. Now if only Dayton would provide us with something definitive instead of just rumor…
Oh and I can’t wait to show that Pujols pic to my roommate / STL transplant / evil Cards fan.
Arthur Rhodes has been dealt
Peter Gammons of ESPN reports that the Mariners have traded Arthur Rhodes to the Marlins for Gaby Hernandez.
Hernandez was a once hot prospect who has been terrible this year. Look for a ton of lefty relievers to get dealt now.
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Crawfish Boxes
I just saw the Astros acquired Latroy Hawkins. Dear god, why? And they gave up a pretty darn good player too (I had Matt Cusick in my Royals shadow draft last year – he seems like a Johnny Giovatella type)
While it must suck to see your management so inept (I can speak from experience), it does make Lookout Landing, Crawfish Boxes, and Royals Review much more amusing.
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Appearently Griffey has waived the no trade clause.
Don't forget to send your broken maples to the US Forest Service.
Griffey trade complete
with Nick Masset and Danny Richar going to the Reds.
+1
In Kaufman
OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG
by Matt Klaassen on Jul 31, 2008 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions
yeah
i wrote up a whole diary on why we should acquire Swisher this last offseason, and before I could post it, the damn ChiSox got him.
Don't Stop Believing!
I love Swisher
And he would have been great in right, but no way the Royals could have afforded the price in prospects
OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG
by Matt Klaassen on Jul 31, 2008 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions
yeah
but it was fun to think about.
Don't Stop Believing!
Swisher + Butler = FUN
OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG
by Matt Klaassen on Jul 31, 2008 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions
To play...where exactly?
If they want to play him CF, I fully look forward to the baseball bloopers that will be coming nightly from Chicago. Jose Guillen right now has more range than Griffey.
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by RoyalsRetro on Jul 31, 2008 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions
Griffy brought very little in return
I guess it is an outright salary dump. Griffey has something like an $18M option for next year with a $6M buyout. This looks to me like the Reds are just sheding salary. Too bad for Cincinnati fans.
I understand Griffy will play RF and Swisher will move to first and Kornenko will hit the bench.
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by James Quinn on Jul 31, 2008 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions
Whiffey OPS+
103. Not exactly inspiring. Plus he’s possibly one of the worst defensive outfielders in baseball.
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by RoyalsRetro on Jul 31, 2008 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, I know,
but I can’t look at this trade without some emotion. Griffey is not much of an asset this year, but the guy is a first ballet HOFer. Plus he has been nothing but a good guy his entire stay in Cincinnati.
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by James Quinn on Jul 31, 2008 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh, Reds are picking up his salary for the rest of this year.
Unless Griff wanted this trade to happen, I wouldn’t have gone for it.
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by James Quinn on Jul 31, 2008 12:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Yea, that's odd
Danny Richar and Nick Masset are really not worth paying Griffey not to play for you. Plus it looks bad PR wise.
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by RoyalsRetro on Jul 31, 2008 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions
The Griffey in Cinncinnati thing was a lot like the Sweeney in KC thing.
Everyone liked him and remembered his good years, but they were pretty ready for a younger player to take over for him.
Still, the return he brought in will not go over well with Reds fans.
Maybe he wanted the trade? If so, then it is all much more easy to swallow. (NO “SHE SAID” jokes here!)
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by James Quinn on Jul 31, 2008 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions
What?
Is it what he said?
not that there's anything wrong with thatOMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG
by Matt Klaassen on Jul 31, 2008 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Good updrade if they move Konerko to the Bench
he is sucking at a Gloadlike level this year.
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by Royal Kingdom on Jul 31, 2008 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh, you know how it goes
the deadline in is four hours, and they’ll announce all of them at like 1 AM anyway.
And besides…(I know your question may’ve been tongue-in-cheek) but I wouldn’t surprised if nothing bigger than Sabathia, Harden, or Teix happened.
A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.
I don't like the big blockbusters
Because they suck all the air out of the room. Give me lots of interesting little trades – Jason Bay to Tampa Bay, Mahay to Philly, Fuentes to Boston, etc.
A Man-Ram trade will be all anyone talks about ad infinitum, when I really don’t care that much.
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by RoyalsRetro on Jul 31, 2008 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions
Blockbusters can be fun
And listening to hour upon hour of Manny Ramirez trade rumors has never been my favorite pasttime.
A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.
Not at the moment
I can only take so much of those idiots.
A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.
On the Griffey Trade
1)
http://www.southsidesox.com/2008/7/31/583497/the-sox-just-traded-for-ke
2) saw this in the comments:
griffey playing center would be insanity. he was atrocious five years ago.Some numbers:
Center Field
UZR: -46 runs per 150 games (2003-2006)
PMR: -44 outs per 150 games (2005-2006)
RZR: -36 outs per 150 games (2004-2006)
Right Field
UZR: -16 runs per 150 games (2007)
PMR: -14 outs per 150 games (2007)
RZR: -22 outs per 150 games (2007-2008)
Dear lord
That’s worse than Billy Butler stumbling around out there.
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by RoyalsRetro on Jul 31, 2008 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions
But not nearly as entertaining
OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG
by Matt Klaassen on Jul 31, 2008 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions
Formatting thing
I think I figured it out last night—if you start a paragraph with a [space] it does it….
here's the testOMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG
by Matt Klaassen on Jul 31, 2008 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions
Wait wait so do I actually type [space]?
Gload is horrible.
A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.
No, it's just a space
like this, bitch
OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG
by Matt Klaassen on Jul 31, 2008 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions
No, that's not it, maybe another paragraph witha space bar at the beginning
aight?
that's what she saidOMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG
by Matt Klaassen on Jul 31, 2008 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions
It didn't work, so ha.
devil_fingers is a son of a silly person
devil_fingers is a silly person?
A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.
Try again
Make it the second line or something
Jose Guillen leads the team in fiery leadershipOMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG
by Matt Klaassen on Jul 31, 2008 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Once upon a time
the formatting on this blog absolutely
drove me crazy
A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.
Dammit
Let’s try:
the quick brown moose jumped over the lazy cheetah.A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.
Yay!
It’s like Billy Butler trying to get a bunt down!
OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG
by Matt Klaassen on Jul 31, 2008 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions
I never was good at bunting
what a
totally fucking useless skill.A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.
not if
you’re
Joey Gathright.Don't Stop Believing!
Maybe, but
he is
totally fucking useless even if bunting isn't.A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.
Mitch
Maier
Now!OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG
by Matt Klaassen on Jul 31, 2008 12:06 PM EDT up reply actions
he would
be
less-use-less though.Don't Stop Believing!
fair enough.
i really can’t stand the guy.
Don't Stop Believing!
Don't stop believing
someday he might SLG .350!
Someday.A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.
does the
text not wrap?
is that why every time one of you accidentally use this font and the post is pretty fairly nested and it runs off the page instead of wrapping and it's all highighted in blue and no one can figure out why it is happening and... did this work?Don't Stop Believing!
That's the mystery
of the
annoying formatting glitchOMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG
by Matt Klaassen on Jul 31, 2008 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Ooh, but wait
experiment:
I am already drunk at 12:17 PM EST
but can you blame me? It looks as if
Manny could be traded and ManRam
pretty much rules. and by the way,
I like Pam.A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.
dude is fine
he just
sucks at baseballOMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG
by Matt Klaassen on Jul 31, 2008 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions
I wonder
why
this awesome formatting thing was put in the systemOMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG
by Matt Klaassen on Jul 31, 2008 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions
LOL
Yes, we’re very sarcastic here.
Okay, seriously do you have to type something in the first line for it to work?A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.
sarcasticizer
The concept of progress acts as a protective mechanism to shield us from the terrors of the future. - Collected sayings of Muad'Dib
Labelly McLaballer IV
I’ll label you
in this awesome font.A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.
so Mr. I'm so a labeller
I saw 160 comments on this thread and thought that there must be a lot more trade action going on than I am hearing about. Well, take out the 100 comments on the use of the sarchasm font and the numbers make more sense.
The concept of progress acts as a protective mechanism to shield us from the terrors of the future. - Collected sayings of Muad'Dib
You correctly
called me a moron for this. Sorry. :)
A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.
no problem
since I haven’t figured out how to use the
@#$*x%x^% font
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Unique New York, Unique New York
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by RoyalsRetro on Jul 31, 2008 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions
How does it
interact
with a picture
OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG
by Matt Klaassen on Jul 31, 2008 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions
That's
what
Jenna?said
OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG
by Matt Klaassen on Jul 31, 2008 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't get why it would have to be
re-sized, but whatever (that’s what she said). Obviously I’m just having a special day.
A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.
Wow, just had this crazy thought...
If by some divine intervention we should sweep the Chisox, we would only be 6 games under .500, and only 8.5 games out of first….Not entirely ridiculous that we could put together a Colorodo type of winning streak and actually pull off a miracle.
Then I looked at the schedule for August….Yikes!
6-WSox
3-BSox
3-Yanks
3-Min
3-Clev
6-Det
3-Tex
Could be a very dark basement to dwell in.
Let's Go Blues!
by powderbluesfor08 on Jul 31, 2008 12:03 PM EDT reply actions
To be the best
You’ve got to beat the best.
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by RoyalsRetro on Jul 31, 2008 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Are you a Flair fan, too?
To be the Man, you’ve gotta
beat the ManThe new formatting thing
rulesOMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG
by Matt Klaassen on Jul 31, 2008 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Maybe you should lie down for awhile
you’ve just put yourself through a rollercoaster of Fan Emotion™.
A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.
I liked where you were going
and then you 180ed on us.
How have we done against those respective teams so far?
Don't Stop Believing!
Record this season so far...
WSox – 3W 6L
BSox – 0W 4L
NY – 4W 3L
Min – 2W 7L
Cle – 4W-4L
Det – 6W 3L
Tex – 2W 4L
Let's Go Blues!
by powderbluesfor08 on Jul 31, 2008 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions
OK,
So, assuming a constant win rate against, we’ve got (i’m going to give us the benefit for statistically partial wins…):
6-WSox at a pace of 0.500 so 3-3 in remaining games
3-BSox at a pace of 0.000 so 0-3 in remaining games
3-Yanks at a pace of 0.571 so 2-1 in remaining games
3-Min at a pace of 0.222 so 1-2 in remaining games
3-Clev at a pace of 0.500 so 2-1 in remaining games
6-Det at a pace of 0.667 so 4-2 in remaining games
3-Tex at a pace of 0.333 so 1-2 in remaining games
Are you sure the games remaining or record against are correct? That would be 15 agianst CHI, 12 against MN, 11 against CLE, and 15 against DET. That doesn’t seem right.
If correct, our record in those games is 13-14.
Don't Stop Believing!
I didn't include Sept. games...
Also the Det wins came early in the year and were somewhat flukish.
Let's Go Blues!
by powderbluesfor08 on Jul 31, 2008 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions
so were some of our
early season losses.
Don't Stop Believing!
But seriously,
Detroit was playing way below potential, and our pitching was playing way above.
Let's Go Blues!
by powderbluesfor08 on Jul 31, 2008 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah
and TPJ was playing SS. And Hideo Nomo was comign out of the pen. And Peralta was an abomination. And Yimmy was getting used against righties.
Don't Stop Believing!
and i messed up the math
you’d think with advanced degree in eng…
anyway, redo:
6-WSox at a pace of 0.333 so 2-4 in remaining games
3-BSox at a pace of 0.000 so 0-3 in remaining games
3-Yanks at a pace of 0.571 so 2-1 in remaining games
3-Min at a pace of 0.222 so 1-2 in remaining games
3-Clev at a pace of 0.500 so 2-1 in remaining games
6-Det at a pace of 0.667 so 4-2 in remaining games
3-Tex at a pace of 0.333 so 1-2 in remaining games
So before September: 12-15.
Don't Stop Believing!
12-15 would not be so bad but,
I’d be surprised.
Mybe if we unload Gload today.
Let's Go Blues!
by powderbluesfor08 on Jul 31, 2008 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions
How does it work?
[ ] This probably isn’t right.
you need a line
ot text then a retrun
then a [space] and your next textDon't Stop Believing!
retrun retrun retrun
What?
retrun
OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG
by Matt Klaassen on Jul 31, 2008 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions
One Lefty off the market
Arthur Rhodes is traded to the Marlins
which is almost as impressive as
Arthur Rhodes is still in MLBDecent return
in Gaby Hernandez. He’s got some upside.
like this?
NHZ is a moron
did it work?
The concept of progress acts as a protective mechanism to shield us from the terrors of the future. - Collected sayings of Muad'Dib
your point
came across
loud and clear...try hitting preview first…
Don't Stop Believing!
formatting fun
has made this the most enjoyable non-game related time-wasting open thread since
draft dayOMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG
ok how about this
Did anyone read
Jeffrey Flanagan’s fascinationg column today?
why didn’t he mention Billy Butler at first?
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Or Ken Harvey?
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by RoyalsRetro on Jul 31, 2008 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Ominous
"We really like the job defensively that Ross Gload is doing," Moore said. "That’s very important when developing a young staff that you have limited mistakes defensively. And Ross Gload is swinging a good bat."What can you say?
OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG
by Matt Klaassen on Jul 31, 2008 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Wheeeeeeeee
Let’s trade for Danchris Johnsheltson to replace him.
A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.
Yes, I'm so unfair
Defense at first is so important
The Royals shouldn’t possibly let
Billy Butleror
Ryan ShealyGet some at-bats, after all, Ross is
swinging a good batOMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG
by Matt Klaassen on Jul 31, 2008 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions
I mean let billy or shealy play first
OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG
by Matt Klaassen on Jul 31, 2008 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions
you were just carried away with the font action
The concept of progress acts as a protective mechanism to shield us from the terrors of the future. - Collected sayings of Muad'Dib
They both have
OPS over .900 in AAA.
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by RoyalsRetro on Jul 31, 2008 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions
3-drink NHZ
sez
Sign those kids up! Give that fan a contraaaaaaaact!A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.
He might be swinging a good bat, but he AIN'T swingin' it well!!
My mother's basement is better than YOUR mother's basement!!
by Royal Kingdom on Jul 31, 2008 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions
no, I don't want to encourage him
The concept of progress acts as a protective mechanism to shield us from the terrors of the future. - Collected sayings of Muad'Dib
In actual trade deadline news,
apparently Selig’s approval is all that’s stopping Griffey from becoming a White Sox.
Interesting to note:
Swisher: .230/.348/.404 (playing a lot better recently)
Konerko: .214/.312/.349 (needs to think about possibly using a surfboard instead of a bat)
Griffey: .245/.355/.432 (with terrible defense).
Anyone else think that this yet another trade that’s going to get blown WAAAAYYY out of proportion?
A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.
Yeah...
Not sure how it’s actually supposed to help the White Sox, given Griffey’s marginal offense and terrible defense not makinh hm much better than Konerko
I do think that the Yanks getting Pudge makes a difference because, while he’s not a stud, as I said above they’re replacing a below replacement level player with an above-average one.
OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG
by Matt Klaassen on Jul 31, 2008 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions
True
But I have to say, the Rodriguez trade is just limiting the damage done by losing Posada. It’s not a best case scenario at all. Maybe that’s just the Yankees-hater part of me saying that, but obviously the Yanks would rather have Posada than Rodriguez if all things were equal.
And as for Griffey…he looks like a useful part-timer at this stage of his career. Not much more.
A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.
Right
No doubt, Posada is a lot better at this point (and, frankly, has almost as good as HoF case, well, not quite, but it’s closer than people think). It’s not a best case. I just mean that given how close the race for the playoffs is, it’s a good trade for them—they didn’t give up much, and the Pudge-Molina difference could be enough to give them the 1 win they need to get in. That’s all.
I think Pudge has been really overrated for a long time.
OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG
by Matt Klaassen on Jul 31, 2008 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions
He was signed by the Marlins
They turned it around and won a WS
He was signed by the Tigers
They turned it around and won a pennant.
WHAT MORE DO YOU NEED TO KNOW? HE IS VETERAN LEADERSHIP PERSONIFIED!!!111
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by RoyalsRetro on Jul 31, 2008 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions
He's the Robert Horry
of
roided-up catchersOMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG
by Matt Klaassen on Jul 31, 2008 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Now now,
what do we actually have on “Pudge”? A positive drug test? A mitchell report mention? No, we have a…
Jose Frickin' Canseco name drop...Oh, wait, we also have a completely ridiculous performance spike that doesn’t make any goddamn sense. Nevermind, forget what I said. Still, Canseco is a sack of shit.
A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.
ALso
His offseason “diet” of a couple of years back. That just killed me for some reason. Even funnier that Giambi’s “no big deal, I just stopped eating and McDonald’s.”
OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG
by Matt Klaassen on Jul 31, 2008 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Everyone knows that the only good time
to eat at McDonald’s is while drunk or hungover….so yeah, it’s pretty unbelievable that Giambi is no longer eating at Mickey D’s.
A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.
Sorry Buzz, I had to do it! Speed! Humiliation! And so forth!
OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG
by Matt Klaassen on Jul 31, 2008 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions
...and...that stache...
someone should tell Jason that the joke was funny, and now he can detach that caterpillar from his upper lip.
A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.
Yes
I think Pudge has been really overrated for a long time.
You hit the nail on the head. He really isn’t anywhere close to the player he used to be.
He’s still about three times as good as Jose Molina.
A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.
pseudo-celebrity deathmatch
higher VORP at the end of the year:
Pudge or all the catching Molina brothers
OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG
by Matt Klaassen on Jul 31, 2008 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Isn't Yadier having a
surprisingly good year at the plate?
A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.
Maybe
I don’t follow the NL closely at all
There goes a pretty funny joke, ruined by “facts.”
Deathmatch:
Pudge’s closer kisses vs. Benjie’s footspeed
OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG
by Matt Klaassen on Jul 31, 2008 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Never let facts get in the way of jokes!
Let me get in the way of jokes instead.
I’m really not sure why I looked this up, but Yadier and Bengie are both having plus-VORP years, Yadier being the one with the actual real live 350+ OBP. Shocking.
Bengie Molina is STILL the slowest man in baseball. Though don’t tell Billy, he’ll want to race him and he’ll probably get them both hurt.
A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.
Isn't multiple Molinas being above replacement level a sign of the apocalypse?
Get right with God
Poor Jose will be
left behindOMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG
by Matt Klaassen on Jul 31, 2008 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions
I will outnerd you all!
Um...
there WAS a hyperlink. Never mind.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left_Behind:_Eternal_Forces
A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.
I heard about that game, never seen it
I was just thinking of the books.
While I like to make fun of them, they actually offend me as a Christian, when I’m being serious.
But let’s not get into that—in short, it bugs the crap out of me that heretical nonsense gets passed off as Christian belief, both by ignorant Christians and their equally ignorant (but allegedly educated) critics
OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG
by Matt Klaassen on Jul 31, 2008 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Death match of the year is Chipper Jones BA v. TPJ's OPS.
Period
Period.My mother's basement is better than YOUR mother's basement!!
by Royal Kingdom on Jul 31, 2008 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Try
A
previewOMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG
by Matt Klaassen on Jul 31, 2008 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions
ESPN is calling
Selig’s permission for the Griffey deal a “rubber stamp,” so that looks like a go. They’re also leading with a pic of Manny saying that his trade to the Marlins is “50-50” right now.
A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.
As big a headache Manny is
I’m sure Boston won’t trade him.
Too much Bat
Every fight is a food fight when you’re a cannibal.
-- Demetri Martin
I don't know
if they can get Bay, it may be a little less bat, but he’ll at least come to play and leave the sideshow at home.
Red Sox deal Manny Ramirez
To Green Bay for Brett Favre
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I've truely enjoyed this comment this morning Retro.
RoyalsRetro wrote: ESPN reporting the Red Sox have just dealt Manny to the Packers for Brett Favre.
The reporter?
Chris Mortensen. “Mort” then backed off this initial report and mumbled something about “media overreaction” and hid under his desk…
A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.
Manny himself
Was holding that sign in the dugout of yesterdays game. “I’ve been traded to Green Bay for Favre, straight up.”
Manny has
agreed to waive his no-trade clause for a Florida deal.
Don't Stop Believing!
Gammons sez
The deal is dead.
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by RoyalsRetro on Jul 31, 2008 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions
well if Gammons say so.
just kidding.
Don't Stop Believing!
Gammons on the deadline blog:
A source close to the three-way negotiations involving Manny Ramirez says the deal is close to dead. Florida has reportedly asked Boston for a cash outlay beyond the $7M to cover Ramirez’s contract, in addition to two prospects. That essentially would add up to the Red Sox trading Ramirez, $9M and two prospects for Jason Bay.
A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.
and they won't
pull the truger on that?
Don't Stop Believing!
It's hard to figure out
the motivations here without knowing the names/current teams of the prospects involved.
A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.
Bay this year
is hitting .282/.375/.512 and well-duh better defense than Manny in left. He’s very close to Ramirez’s level right now, and he’s under contract through next year. Hm…as I said, the prospects involved would have to be named for me to hazard any real educated guess about what went down here.
A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.
Hitting like that in the NL....
OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG
by Matt Klaassen on Jul 31, 2008 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions
True
I suppose you have to take that into account, but I think Bay’s hitting skills would translate just fine. Last year was a bit of an outlier on what’s been a fine career for him.
Do I really want Manny traded? Erm…not really.
A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.
Also of note
The Marlins are still in the catchers’ market as the deadline approaches. Other names they’ve been linked to include Texas’ Gerald Laird, Baltimore’s Ramon Hernandez and the Giants’ Bengie Molina. But it now appears Molina isn’t going to be traded.
No Olivo mention?
Eight teams looking for a lefty-killer for their bullpen are in on Atlanta lefty Will Ohman, including all three AL East contenders. It is extremely likely that Ohman will be dealt by the deadline, given the level of interest.
It would be cool if this upped the Mahay stakes.
A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.
Now it's possibly Bay to the Jays
according to Stark.
They have bohts up theer, ya know…
Don't Stop Believing!
Not that Bay wouldn't help whatever team he went to
but do the Blue Jays seriously think they can leapfrog three teams in the best division in baseball?
A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.
But he's Canadian!
And they play in Canada! Therefore, it makes sense.
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by RoyalsRetro on Jul 31, 2008 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Who is Bay's agent?
OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG
by Matt Klaassen on Jul 31, 2008 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Snidely Whiplash
The concept of progress acts as a protective mechanism to shield us from the terrors of the future. - Collected sayings of Muad'Dib
In seriousness
He’s signed through 2009, so perhaps they think they’re on the cusp of a championship in ‘09. That’s pretty deluded too.
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by RoyalsRetro on Jul 31, 2008 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions
They'd have him next year, too, and maybe they think they can resign him
For the Sox, doesn’t this only make sense if they get Bay? Even then, can he really adequately replace Manny’s production enough to keep them ahead in the race?
OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG
by Matt Klaassen on Jul 31, 2008 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Could he?
I certainly think so. Manny’s not hitting much better than Bay right now, and Bay isn’t terrible in left. Would it make any sense for the Sox to trade Manny if they don’t get another, comparable bat? I doubt it.
And, yeah, okay, the Jays might want him for next year, too. But as Retro points out, they’re not exactly in great position to leap frog in the near future.
A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.
Pre-McGowan injury
the Jays had good enough pitching and defense to make some sacrifice-everything-in-an-attempt-to-win-in-2009-and-save-JP’s-job moves (like adding Bay, another bat, and a few spare parts) and become a true contender. Now, not so much.
Jeffrey Flanagan wrote the same thing
Obviously they both don’t understand how well Gload has been hitting lately.
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by RoyalsRetro on Jul 31, 2008 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions
The Newest Logic
Gload has been hitting better than Jose Guillen in July
Jose Guillen has been a great offensive boost to the Royals this year
Therefore, Ross Gload is swinging the bat well lately
OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG
by Matt Klaassen on Jul 31, 2008 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions
i'm really disturbed by the underlying trend
of using Ross Gloads and Grudzs and what not. It’s fine to go with older guys in the bullpen, but we’re trying to figure out not only next year, but 5 years from now. And resiging these guys to multi-year contracts? WTF??
We should no doubt have Shealy up.
Don't Stop Believing!
i guess exclamations
are another hidden formatting wonder.
Don't Stop Believing!
hey hey good observation
first time i will ever see him play live im excited
Yasuhiko Yabuta is to Major League Baseball as Drew Carey is to The Price is Right
I think he should get a standing O
The “Hi, welcome back, you may be the enemy but we don’t hate you” kind.
Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.
Manny is a better hitter
and his defense at Boston is probably better than Bays would be.
Every fight is a food fight when you’re a cannibal.
-- Demetri Martin
I think Bay would more than make up for
any troubles playing the wall…by actually being able to move towards the baseball on the road.
A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.
Does he have the overrated "moving lateral ability" some ignorant KC fans think is necessary to play the outfield?
OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG
by Matt Klaassen on Jul 31, 2008 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Heck, unlike
Manuel, I hear that Bay actually might be able to move back towards a wall.
A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.
Ya Bay's defensive ability is gonna way large in the Playoffs
maybe KC can pull of a Gload for Youkalis deal too
Every fight is a food fight when you’re a cannibal.
-- Demetri Martin
Youkilis
ain’t going nowhere. Where’s he going? Fackin’ nowhere.
A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.
Youkilis is crossing the line from "good player who was undervalued"
to “really, really, freaking good player.”
Hilariously ugly, too.
I have heard he’s a jerk (not that it matters, unless it helps the team, and then it rules!), which I find hard to believe. Meh.
OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG
by Matt Klaassen on Jul 31, 2008 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions
He is a bit of a jerk, IMO,
but he’s not even on the Jose Guillen-Milton Bradley-Kenny Rogers scale.
A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.
That's all i meant
I didn’t mean “trash teammates” or “argue with umpires” or “attack cameraman” level, more the asshole to fans level.
OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG
by Matt Klaassen on Jul 31, 2008 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh,
and we’ll see. He looks like he’s broken out in terms of power a bit, but last year he did much the same thing and faded terrible down the stretch.
A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.
Strangely low BB rate for him this year, though
don’t know if it means anything. It’s not necessarily swinging at more kinds of pitches, since his ISO is way up (if that makes sense, too lazy to make it more clear).
OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG
by Matt Klaassen on Jul 31, 2008 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions
and I mean low BB rate
for him
OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG
by Matt Klaassen on Jul 31, 2008 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions
The part on the Jays
As the Red Sox, Marlins and Pirates continue to try to piece together their Manny Ramirez-Jason Bay blockbuster, the buzz around the sport is that the Pirates are still talking to other teams about Bay.The latest team to make a run is Toronto. It seems doubtful that the Blue Jays would give up the three-prospect package Pittsburgh is looking for, almost certainly starting with outfield phenom Travis Snider. But Toronto and Pittsburgh were still talking as of Thursday afternoon.
As I said, the timing on this potential deal for the JAYS doesn’t seem to make much sense.
A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.
I'm too lazy to read through everything
who’s been shopped!
Listen to the MUSTN'Ts, child Listen to the DON'Ts Listen to the SHOULDN'Ts, The IMPOSSIBLEs, the WON'Ts Listen to the NEVER HAVEs Then listen close to me-- Anything can happen, child, ANYTHING can be --Shel Silverstein
by loyal2theroyals on Jul 31, 2008 1:05 PM EDT reply actions
I'm too lazy to tell you.
We always did feel the same, We just saw it from a different point of view, Tangled up in blue.
-Bob Dylan
by Royal Kingdom on Jul 31, 2008 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Not Ross Gload
OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG
by Matt Klaassen on Jul 31, 2008 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions
We traded devil_fingers
for an Ice Cream cake. Don’t tell him yet, I’m trying to get Will to break the news to him.
A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.
you wouldn't
want him to see it on the TV before he could tell his family.
Don't Stop Believing!
Don't worry
all the news about Manny and Favre is keeping the SC Bottomline busy.
A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.
From DQ? What a steal!!
We always did feel the same, We just saw it from a different point of view, Tangled up in blue.
-Bob Dylan
by Royal Kingdom on Jul 31, 2008 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm gonna make Farnsworth look like Mr. Spock when I talk to the press
OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG
by Matt Klaassen on Jul 31, 2008 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Wait
What kind of ice cream cake?
It it’s a “You’re a Whale of a Dad” one with the blue toothpaste stuff on it, I might be OK.
And who am I going to? Lookout Landing? Halos Heaven? Murray Chass’s non-blog?
OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG
by Matt Klaassen on Jul 31, 2008 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions
i'm just curious how RR
got you to waive your no-trade clause…
Don't Stop Believing!
I'm not a 10 and 5 man yet
OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG
by Matt Klaassen on Jul 31, 2008 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions
did he perhaps
offer up an overflow thread?
Don't Stop Believing!
You're going to be
working for Stephen A. Smith’s Offline Blog.
A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.
OK
I’m going to need the Jenna Fischer-Rashieda Jones dressing room tape before I waive the no-trade
OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG
by Matt Klaassen on Jul 31, 2008 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions
is it chocolate????
I only want to trade him if it’s chocolate.
Listen to the MUSTN'Ts, child Listen to the DON'Ts Listen to the SHOULDN'Ts, The IMPOSSIBLEs, the WON'Ts Listen to the NEVER HAVEs Then listen close to me-- Anything can happen, child, ANYTHING can be --Shel Silverstein
by loyal2theroyals on Jul 31, 2008 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Of course it's chocolate.
I wouldn’t even consider the deal until the other party was willing to give up chocolate.
A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.
good!
you’re a quick thinking man.
Listen to the MUSTN'Ts, child Listen to the DON'Ts Listen to the SHOULDN'Ts, The IMPOSSIBLEs, the WON'Ts Listen to the NEVER HAVEs Then listen close to me-- Anything can happen, child, ANYTHING can be --Shel Silverstein
by loyal2theroyals on Jul 31, 2008 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions
didn't realize that cold stone had expanded that much!
beer flavored ice cream. Sounds kinda gross…
Listen to the MUSTN'Ts, child Listen to the DON'Ts Listen to the SHOULDN'Ts, The IMPOSSIBLEs, the WON'Ts Listen to the NEVER HAVEs Then listen close to me-- Anything can happen, child, ANYTHING can be --Shel Silverstein
by loyal2theroyals on Jul 31, 2008 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions
hahahahahahahahaha
but what KIND of ice cream cake? Because some of us have allergies, and others of us have birthdays coming up, and me, personally, I’m partial to Fudgie the Whale.
ya NYY traded for TPJ
they need bullpen help
Every fight is a food fight when you’re a cannibal.
-- Demetri Martin
(Dwight voice)
Question: do we need an overflow thread?
A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.
well done
OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG
by Matt Klaassen on Jul 31, 2008 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Bears, beets, Battlestar Galactica
Billy Butler
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by RoyalsRetro on Jul 31, 2008 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
THAT'S what I was looking for
rec’d
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by Matt Klaassen on Jul 31, 2008 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Identity fraud is not a joke
millions of families…..
The concept of progress acts as a protective mechanism to shield us from the terrors of the future. - Collected sayings of Muad'Dib
Ken Rosenthal sez
The Phillies continue to target three left-handed relievers — the Braves’ Will Ohman, Pirates’ John Grabow and Giants’ Jack Taschner. The team also had been in the mix for the Royals’ Ron Mahay, but could not meet the Royals’ price.
An executive from one team in touch with the Royals says he does not believe that Mahay will be traded. The Royals have Mahay under contract next season for a salary of $4 million.
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I hope Moore's not overvaluing Mahay
but it sounds like maybe he is
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OVERFLOW THREAD UP
Here’s your link, you coddled bloggers.
http://www.royalsreview.com/2008/7/31/583730/trading-deadline-extravgan
A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.
are you referring to me, you lifeguarding labeller?
here is a line of text.
return, space, preview
type in another line
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yes
yes it did
work!by Fernando Vina School of Linguistics on Jul 31, 2008 9:07 PM EDT up reply actions
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