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Greatest Living Hitter: George Brett?

My extreme Royal bias probably is affecting me, but I think George Brett is the greatest living hitter. While his career line of .305/.369/.487 is less impressive due to the offensive explosion of the last ten years, he was one of the best in his era. He won the 1980 MVP and could have won in 1976 and 1979 – and he should have won in 1985. He was selected for 13 all-star games and started nine.

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True, but

Arod has put up better regular season numbers, but I still would rather have Brett knowing how he excelled in pressure situations to include the playoffs. You have to ask yourself, who would you want to come up to the plate in the bottom of the ninth down by one?

by kcfan4ever64 on Jul 7, 2008 5:51 PM EDT   0 recs

No Question. Clutch for the regular season doesn't mean much

but clutch for the Playoffs IS REAL. George was always clutch in the playoffs, certain people can elevate their game in those spots and George was always one of them. I would trade George for A-Rod on any playoff team.

Billy at worst will be Sean Casey jr.

by kcscoliny on Jul 7, 2008 6:38 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

He isn't even the greatest living third baseman from his own era

Sorry, but it’s true. Mike Schmidt has 12 points of OPS+ on him (135 to 147). Brett has a significantly higher BA, but Schmidt has a better OBP and significantly higher SLG. Bill James has them as 1) Schmidt, 2) Brett.

But, like Buzz Aldrin says, “Second comes right next to first!”

I was actually thinking about he A-Rod thing today… (And, as of now, baseball-reference has his OPS+ 1 point higher than Schmidts, but who knows how A-Rod’s decline will affect the overall line). I remember Rob Neyer talking about A-Rod moving off of SS when he first went to New York, and writing that it was sad because whereas we were once watching the greatest SS since Honus Wagner, we’re now watching the best player since Barry Bonds. But my main thought is, aren’t Schmidt and Brett pissed? Whichever one you think is better, they are a pretty solid 1-2. And now A-Rod moves, and gets “credit” for his SS years, too? How do you work out where A-Rod “goes” in ranking players by position, since he made the switch?

As for the clutch thing… well, although it isn’t as stupid as A-Rod being compared negatively to Jeter (who’s nearing the tipping point, among bloggers, of going from being called out for being so overrated that his career as a whole is being underrated) in regard to “clutch” performance, I’m guessing that a similar dynamic goes on with respect to Schmidt and Brett—particularly among Royals fans. E.g., “well, maybe every stat says Schmidt was better, but he struck out too much in big situations!”

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Jul 7, 2008 7:25 PM EDT   0 recs

Schmidtty's stats in the playoffs aren't too hot

I look at playoffs stats for 2 reasons.
#1
They are batting against the better pitchers of those teams. You get to throw out the #4/5 starters. They are smaller sample sizes but you get to throwout the grind of a 162 games. How many Ab’s does a good hitter lose because it’s a Sunday game and he’s thinking about his stupid wifes latest purchase or that his jock iches from the whore he banged the night before. It’s full concentration vs full concentration.
.236/.304/.386 in 36 G’s 140 Abs
#2 It suits my argument that he is better

Who cares about RBI's, how many HDB's you got?

by kcscoliny on Jul 7, 2008 8:07 PM EDT   0 recs

Brett Could Have

Hit for more power, but Lau’s hitting approach maximized line drive potential. On the pool table that was Royals’ Stadium in the 70’s, this worked well. Some of the gappers Brett, McRae, otis et al hit may still be rolling around the park somewhere.

That said, I saw Brett’s uncanny ability to hit the long ball when it was needed numerous times. I don’t claim to know how he did it, but it certainly appeared he could. The Gossage homer in the playoffs is the most obvious example, but I can remember thinking he might well do it when he came to the plate because he had done it so many times before.

Clutch? Who knows or cares. Brett is the batter I’d want up with the game on the line. Period.

I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.

by philofthenorth on Jul 7, 2008 11:56 PM EDT   0 recs

Willie Mays is still alive

Much as I love ol’ # 5, I have to think he takes a back seat to the Say Hey Kid.

Chaim Mattis Keller New York City's # 1 Royals fan!

by cmkeller on Jul 8, 2008 2:25 AM EDT   0 recs

Brett could hit better than A-Rod right now

Don’t even try to tell me that I’m wrong.

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Jul 8, 2008 5:24 AM EDT   0 recs

Can I call you a douchebag?

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Jul 8, 2008 9:25 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

George Brett . . . .

is the greatest athlete in human history. He was better at baseball than Jordan was at basketball. He was better at baseball than Tiger Woods is at golf. He was better at baseball than Ali was at boxing.

He’s also dreamy.

by royalstern05 on Jul 8, 2008 9:12 AM EDT   0 recs

In all seriousness . . .

There is no doubt in my mind that if Brett’s career started in 1995/1996, his offensive numbers would be far superior. Due to the specialization of bullpen roles, I doubt he would have ever hit .390, but, playing on grass (instead of the concrete with astro-turf on top) and the smaller ballparks around the league, and the advent of emphasis being placed on OBP (taking pitches and walks being an admirable quality) – he would have astounding numbers.

That being said – Mike Schmidt would have had amazing numbers if he played in the current era too. Could you imagine how many homers he would have hit if he played in the Phillies current stadium?? He would’ve been in the 650 range.

by royalstern05 on Jul 8, 2008 9:20 AM EDT   0 recs

Brett

I admitted my bias when I wrote the piece and I know there are other hitters with better stats but I had the pleasure of watching Brett for 20 years not Schmidt or Bonds. Again, bias on my part and I freely acknowledge it.

by royallyspeaking on Jul 8, 2008 5:15 PM EDT   0 recs

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